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The Science Behind Wasabi Method: Heal Smarter, Not Harder | Adam Gavine DSH #1321
Sun, 13 Apr 2025
Adam GavineDiscover *The Science Behind Wasabi Method: Heal Smarter, Not Harder* with Dr. Adam Gavine! 🤩 From the revolutionary use of shockwave therapy to creating lasting physiological changes, learn how the Wasabi Method is transforming recovery and prevention. Whether you're an athlete or just looking to improve your well-being, this episode is packed with valuable insights you won’t want to miss. 💪✨ Dr. Gaven shares his inspiring journey, the collaboration with Dave Asprey, and how this cutting-edge method boosts healing, blood flow, and recovery in ways you’ve never imagined. 🌟 Curious about the science behind it? Get ready to hear about angiogenesis, fibroblast activation, and how this device delivers instant, long-lasting results! 🙌 Tune in now to uncover the secrets of unlocking your body’s full potential. 🚀 Don't miss out—watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets! 📺 Hit that subscribe button and join the conversation on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🎙️🔥 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:38 - What's New with You 01:36 - Origin of Wasabi Method 04:35 - Dave Asprey's Impact on Wasabi Method 11:02 - How Wasabi Method Works 12:53 - Understanding Angiogenesis 15:42 - Role of Fibroblasts 16:40 - Duration of Effects 17:46 - Body's Response to Stimulus 19:50 - Future of Wasabi Method 23:25 - Where to Purchase Wasabi 26:50 - Common Issues Treated 28:06 - Reducing Inflammation 28:48 - Compatibility with Other Modalities 30:40 - Finding Wasabi Method Online APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Adam Gavine https://www.instagram.com/wasabi_method/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ #emailmarketing #leadgeneration #b2bleadgeneration #socialmediamarketing #seo #shockwaveforshoulderpain #softwavetherapy #shockwavetherapy #radialshockwavetherapy #shockwavetreatmentforshoulderpain
Chapter 1: Who is Dr. Adam Gavine and what is his background?
All right, guys, Dr. Adam Gavin here today in Las Vegas from Australia. Yeah, thanks. Let's go, down under. Yep. Long flight, man. Now I'm up above, I guess. Yeah, long flight, so appreciate you coming out. Yeah, not a problem. I'm glad to be here. Yeah, what's been the latest for you? You just adjusted me, and I feel amazing.
Yeah, yeah. Well, we noticed a few things when you sat down that your posture kind of wasn't ideal. You've been working most of the day, so... with a bit of slouching and sitting and stuff like that. You just, our body adapts to these postures and then I just need to kind of reset you to get everything right again. You can do a lot of exercises and stuff to help with that.
So that's what I recommend to patients, clients and stuff. So if they're at the desk all day, We call them taking like micro breaks. So just doing little things to help reset the musculoskeletal system so that you don't end up like this at the end of the day.
Yeah. They say every hour you're sitting, you should do like a little five minute walk around, right? Yeah. It doesn't take much. Yeah. That's my problem because I get glued to my screen. Yeah. Then four hours goes by. Next thing you know, my back's in pain. Yeah, exactly. And then you have to pay someone like me to sort you out. Yeah, or a chiropractor, right? Yeah, well, I'm a chiropractor.
Chapter 2: What is the Wasabi Method and how was it developed?
That's how you started. Yeah. And you kind of developed shockwave therapy from there, right?
Yeah.
Can you explain what that is?
Yeah, so my company, Wasabi Method, we sell a device. It's part of, so I'll have to define a couple of things first. So you have shockwave therapy, which are basically acoustic sound waves. And we use them to treat musculoskeletal problems. Actually, the original treatment was for breaking up kidney stones. It's called lithotripsy.
And so there's kind of three different levels of shockwave therapy. So there's like high energy, which is like the lithotripsy. And you have to be put under a general anesthetic to get that because there's no way you could tolerate that amount of pain. So when the energy is high, it breaks down things. But when you use medium or low energy sound waves, they cause tissues to heal and repair.
And so that's what we use. We call ours a radial anesthetic. pressure wave, which is just a bit lower than a shock wave by definition, because shock waves have a specific kind of definition. It has to be faster than the speed of sound. It has to meet a pressure gradient of 100 millipascals of pressure.
So my device doesn't get to that level, but it still gets in this therapeutic window that causes the physiological changes in the body. So that's really what matters. Yeah. And I've used that device.
It's amazing. Yeah, yeah. You've had it. Had it twice. I will say it hurts, but afterwards I feel amazing.
Yeah, yeah. And so with the pain, if we're going to talk about the pain, it should be tolerable. And we can set the settings so that it can be tolerable.
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Chapter 3: How did Dave Asprey influence the Wasabi Method?
Chapter 4: What is shockwave therapy and how does it work?
Yeah, so my company, Wasabi Method, we sell a device. It's part of, so I'll have to define a couple of things first. So you have shockwave therapy, which are basically acoustic sound waves. And we use them to treat musculoskeletal problems. Actually, the original treatment was for breaking up kidney stones. It's called lithotripsy.
And so there's kind of three different levels of shockwave therapy. So there's like high energy, which is like the lithotripsy. And you have to be put under a general anesthetic to get that because there's no way you could tolerate that amount of pain. So when the energy is high, it breaks down things. But when you use medium or low energy sound waves, they cause tissues to heal and repair.
And so that's what we use. We call ours a radial anesthetic. pressure wave, which is just a bit lower than a shock wave by definition, because shock waves have a specific kind of definition. It has to be faster than the speed of sound. It has to meet a pressure gradient of 100 millipascals of pressure.
So my device doesn't get to that level, but it still gets in this therapeutic window that causes the physiological changes in the body. So that's really what matters. Yeah. And I've used that device.
It's amazing. Yeah, yeah. You've had it. Had it twice. I will say it hurts, but afterwards I feel amazing.
Yeah, yeah. And so with the pain, if we're going to talk about the pain, it should be tolerable. And we can set the settings so that it can be tolerable.
obviously higher or lower so i'm always checking in with patients to see what you can tolerate i don't usually like to exceed about a 7 out of 10 on someone's pain scale yeah yeah yeah that makes sense i think for me i'm optimistic so yeah i just want to fix my problems and deal with it yeah but it works man yeah and the cool thing is it's almost instantaneous like it's not like the next day you'll feel better it's like when people hop off the table they're like holy crap
that that really made a difference yeah no because i was coming off i think a muscle sprain and then i ran into you guys at a4m yeah and i just felt way better after yeah yeah we had we have you on our instagram talking about your experience yeah i think it was in my left shoulder i like sprained it the week before yeah you guys you guys did whatever you do and it stopped hurting the next day
Yeah, awesome. And did it last? Yeah, it lasted. And I was trying all sorts of weird stuff. I think when I came to you guys, I had a patch on, like a nicotine patch or something.
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Chapter 5: What physiological effects does the Wasabi Method have on the body?
Yeah, well, it was Dave. Dave came up with it. And I remember at the time when he mentioned it to me, I think we were going to call it like American shockwave or something, something pretty standard. And he came up with this. And I remember going, oh, my God, I don't like that. And I sat with it. He studied at Wharton. So in my head, I'm going, I have to trust this guy.
He's got eight or nine successful businesses. He went to Wharton. He knows what he's doing. So I was like, okay, let's do it. And I'm so glad that we did.
It's a good name, man.
Yeah, because everybody likes it. We're looking for a tagline, but usually what we say, it's spicy, but it's good. Like wasabi. You get the spice from it, but it's enjoyable. I love it.
And the service is so good that I feel like you don't have to do much marketing. No, it's... Your customers will just tell other people.
Yeah, yeah. Because when you experience it at one of our booths or if you go to one of our practitioners that use our device, it's... I don't have to tell you. I just have to show you. Once you experience it like you have... You get it, right? I don't have to sit there and talk to you. You're like, I get it.
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Chapter 6: How does angiogenesis contribute to healing?
It'd be too hard to explain.
Yes, it's almost like ineffable.
Yeah, it's better just to start doing it on someone because you won't be able to tell them.
Yeah, because some people are just like, they're like, tell me what it does, how it works. I'm like, do you really want me to go into all the physics and physiology or do you want me to just do it and then you'll experience it? And they're like, okay, just do it. And then they always leave smiling. Yeah, absolutely. There are a lot of benefits to it though, right? Yeah. Yeah. Other than pain?
Oh, yeah. So in terms of physiology, it has about 19 physiological effects on the body. And some of them are really fascinating. When I went on Dave's podcast last year, I talked a lot about all the physiological changes that occur. And what I did when, after we posted the...
podcasts is I put peer-reviewed journals that validated everything I had because I knew people would be writing in and go on bullshit whatever and I was like okay so everything I said I had I had studies and we could probably do the same here because I know people will probably do the same thing we'll link it in the video yeah yeah so I'm all about the research because I'm actually doing my master's of research at the University of Sydney oh nice in Australia
So I'm all about the research. Like I read studies almost daily. And yeah, I'm happy to share them. Because I want people not to just take me at my word. I'm like, yeah, I want you to fact check me. Because maybe I missed something or maybe I misinterpreted something or maybe I didn't. use the proper terms to describe it. Yeah. And apologize if I do that. But like anyone, I'm not infallible.
And, you know, we're always learning and growing.
No, that's respect. Because a lot of the biohacking space, I love the biohacking space, but a lot of it doesn't have the research yet. Yeah. Some of the modalities. Yeah. And instead of admitting that, they almost try and cover it up.
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Chapter 7: What role do fibroblasts play in the healing process?
Chapter 8: Why is blood flow important for recovery and aging?
And the service is so good that I feel like you don't have to do much marketing. No, it's... Your customers will just tell other people.
Yeah, yeah. Because when you experience it at one of our booths or if you go to one of our practitioners that use our device, it's... I don't have to tell you. I just have to show you. Once you experience it like you have... You get it, right? I don't have to sit there and talk to you. You're like, I get it.
It'd be too hard to explain.
Yes, it's almost like ineffable.
Yeah, it's better just to start doing it on someone because you won't be able to tell them.
Yeah, because some people are just like, they're like, tell me what it does, how it works. I'm like, do you really want me to go into all the physics and physiology or do you want me to just do it and then you'll experience it? And they're like, okay, just do it. And then they always leave smiling. Yeah, absolutely. There are a lot of benefits to it though, right? Yeah. Yeah. Other than pain?
Oh, yeah. So in terms of physiology, it has about 19 physiological effects on the body. And some of them are really fascinating. When I went on Dave's podcast last year, I talked a lot about all the physiological changes that occur. And what I did when, after we posted the...
podcasts is I put peer-reviewed journals that validated everything I had because I knew people would be writing in and go on bullshit whatever and I was like okay so everything I said I had I had studies and we could probably do the same here because I know people will probably do the same thing we'll link it in the video yeah yeah so I'm all about the research because I'm actually doing my master's of research at the University of Sydney oh nice in Australia
So I'm all about the research. Like I read studies almost daily. And yeah, I'm happy to share them. Because I want people not to just take me at my word. I'm like, yeah, I want you to fact check me. Because maybe I missed something or maybe I misinterpreted something or maybe I didn't. use the proper terms to describe it. Yeah. And apologize if I do that. But like anyone, I'm not infallible.
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