Digital Social Hour
The Energy Hack That's Transforming Entrepreneurs | Joe Polish DSH #1056
Sat, 04 Jan 2025
Discover the game-changing energy hack that's helping entrepreneurs thrive! 🚀 Joe Polish shares powerful insights on how to protect your energy and transform your business relationships. Learn why paying attention to how people make you feel is the ultimate success indicator and how to spot the warning signs of toxic connections before they derail your success. In this eye-opening conversation, Joe reveals his proven strategies for maintaining authentic relationships while building massive success. From navigating fame to protecting yourself from energy vampires, you'll learn actionable tips to elevate your entrepreneurial journey. Joe also shares intimate details about working with high-profile figures and maintaining integrity in a world of situational ethics. Don't miss Joe's profound insights on recovery, maintaining character through success, and why your gut feelings about people are usually right. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting out, this conversation will transform how you approach relationships and energy management in business and life. Ready to level up your entrepreneurial game? Watch now for game-changing wisdom from one of the most connected people in business. Your energy - and your success - will thank you! 🎯 #energyliteracy #addictionrelapsepreventionstrategies #motivationalinterviewing #recoverystrategies #relapseprevention CHAPTERS: 00:00 - What's Happening in the World 01:18 - Joe's Takeaways from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Interview 03:53 - Balancing Life: Can You Crush It All? 07:07 - Identifying Red Flags in Relationships 10:33 - Understanding Pain as a Messenger 14:57 - Protecting Yourself from Manipulative People 17:56 - Recognizing 2 Types of People 19:24 - Toxicity in the Entertainment Industry 21:40 - Addressing Evil in the World 23:56 - News as Fear-Mongering 25:25 - Psychological Dangers of Modern Society 27:14 - How to Be a Good Person 30:40 - What's Next for Joe APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Joe Polish https://www.instagram.com/joepolish/ https://joepolish.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/
Chapter 1: What energy hack can help entrepreneurs thrive?
How do I feel after talking to that person? Like, do I feel drained or do I feel like motivated?
Okay, if I interact with anyone, it's like, do I feel good or do I feel like kind of cringy? When you feel something is off and you ignore that, then what happens is you're training your energy field that it's okay to ignore warning signs. I didn't even notice the yellow flags and the yellow flags are lead ups to the red flags.
But when you say stop and your body's telling you to stop and you still push forward, You're going to screw yourself over.
Chapter 2: How do I identify red flags in relationships?
All right, guys. Joe Polish here. We are at AmFest. And this guy's one of the most connected people I've ever met. Thanks for coming on, man.
Well, thank you. Good to be here, man.
Yeah. That was a fun one with Chris Voss last month, too. Yeah.
Yeah. We did that first podcast.
And this place is kind of insane right now. Dude, it's booming. There's a lot of good people. This is my first AmFest. What about you? This is the first one.
Really? Yeah. I mean... Charlie Kirk is a machine. I'll just put it that way. And they did the first Maha event here in Arizona with Turning Point that had my buddy Bobby Kennedy and Cali Maine. So I introduced both of them to each other. And so just seeing what has happened just in the span of three months is utterly insane in this country.
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Chapter 3: What role does pain play as a messenger?
It's incredible. Yeah, your interview with Bobby was incredible. It got almost a million views. Yeah, yeah. What were your big takeaways from that interview?
Well, it's the third time I interviewed him. Bobby, I guess my big takeaway with him is the ability to be a lifelong Democrat, then go independent, and then align with Trump, which I think is cool. And his view on addiction recovery, his view on plant medicines, the fact that if you notice Bobby, even if someone does not agree with him or not, it takes a lot for him to insult someone.
He doesn't just attack. He's more, I guess, more of a non-violent communication guy. Yeah. Whereas Trump is just like hardcore, right? But both styles, I think, are very interesting ways to open people up because some people resonate with one method of communication, the others don't. He's a machine.
My biggest takeaway of our most recent interview is, I already knew this, but he stated it, and I reinforced it as much as I could, is this year has been his 40th year in recovery, because I've been Addiction Recovery Foundation, and me and him really align on that.
And so every single day, in spite of running for president, and then everything that's going on, he meditates every day, attends a 12-step meeting every day, and works out every day. even if he's traveling, which he is a lot right now, clearly, with security and everything. So just to coordinate security to work out every day wherever he's at, and people are like, I don't have time to exercise.
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Chapter 4: How can I protect myself from toxic people?
It's like, well, you know, it depends. Are you committed to something? People will say, I care about my body, I care about my health, I care about my relationships, I care about my recovery. And he just does it every day. And so he truly is one of the few people that I've met. I've met a lot of presidents and ex-presidents. Most are narcissists. We talked about that last time. Yeah, yeah.
And he is truly just, I think, a genuinely great guy. Now, he will admit there are times in his life where he wasn't a great guy. And I say great guy where he was off the rails. He was in active addiction and you cannot be an active addict without lying, cheating and stealing. If you're not doing that to other people, you're doing it to yourself. Right.
Like in your mind, you're living kind of like this double life. So there is no way in hell to do 40 years of recovery, a lot of it 12 step base and not have that chisel you into a better life. human. Everybody's flawed. We're all flawed humans in some way, shape, or form. But yeah, my big takeaway was just that daily ritual, which there's so much to take from that.
Absolutely. Yeah. I think we all go through these phases, right? I never meet someone that's just like a steady trajectory.
Never. Like ever, unless you are living in a freaking bubble or something. I think life is a series of you're on track, Things are working, good relationships. Maybe you're taking care of your health. Things are, you know, doing well in business. And then other times you're completely off the track. And then the job is to get back on the track. Because people are like, I used to be there.
Things used to work this way. So the question is, well, what the hell were you doing when things were working? Can you go back to that? But we get hit with disease, betrayals, heartbreak, and even your story, right?
The big loss of money. Financial. I had health issues as well. I was neglecting. Do you think you could crush it in all aspects of life at the same time? Or do you think you need to hone in on a few at a time?
Well, it depends on what you mean by crush it. But in terms of... You know, it's funny. I have this AI clone. And somehow it's programmed to have me be saying crush it. It's funny because yesterday we were playing around with my AI clone. And it was saying, you go out there and crush it. I'm like, I don't really say that too much. How the hell did they get that?
But maybe one of my interviews with Vaynerchuk or something. Because back in the day... Yeah, I say that shit all the time. But no, I...
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Chapter 5: What are the psychological dangers of modern society?
Uh, they haven't had a lot of trauma in their life and they, they're pretty balanced, but I think there's mission-based, uh, entrepreneurs, mission-based people, and then there are obsessive people. Yeah. And so the obsessive people tend to have more depression, a lot more suicides, more addiction, more of a rollercoaster life. Whereas the mission-based are more methodical, uh,
they try to build boring businesses, they try to create a structure, whereas the other people, you know, systems tend to cramp their style. And so they're all over the map. So for me, you know, I definitely am a hunter, and so it's a bit of a roller coaster. But what I think is,
think it's smart to aspire to that i think it's very smart to set a foundation up because your life is is is on if it's on a shaky foundation cut all ties with dishonest negative unethical lazy people because if you're around those people by proximity by the very nature that your life is going to be a bit of a show okay you can't play with snakes and not get bit
Yeah. Well, now you're seeing new studies of how everyone has an energy field. And there's actual studies now about who's around you, how it affects you.
Well, let me ask you this. So you've obviously interviewed people about this. You've learned about it. What has been your biggest discovery in that? Because I do think we're frequencies. I think there is an energy without sounding woo-woo in a ridiculous way. Yeah. We fashion our own futures.
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Chapter 6: What rituals can help maintain character through success?
Our mind has a lot to do with stuff and we attract, you know, you find people whose dents match your dents.
Absolutely. So, yeah. For me, it's just like, how do I feel after talking to that person? Like, do I feel drained or do I feel like motivated? Right. So that's a simple test anyone watching this can take. And you'll be surprised like what happens just thinking that way.
Well, now, okay. Now someone might just hear that and say, okay, yeah, whatever. And it's, that's not some big profound sort of sounding thing. However, it's, it's very profound because if you ignore your gut feelings, if you ignore how, like I always, I had this conversation with the author Poe Bronson years ago, and he said, people want more woo and less, you know, and I've always liked that.
Cause it's like, okay, if I interact with anyone, it's like, do I feel
good or do i feel like kind of cringy and when you feel something is off and you ignore that then what happens is you're training your energy field if we want let's just use that terminology that it's okay to ignore warning signs and so where i've had made the biggest mistakes in my life is when i i was tired when i was exhausted when i was overwhelmed or when i ignored red flags
And by ignoring red flags, you don't even start, it's like, you ever seen people that have these motivational posters in their offices where everyone goes numb to it and they have dust on the top of their head and shit like that, right? So people get numb to things that they don't pay attention to and you don't see it. So there's yellow flags.
In the beginning, after a lot of betrayal, after doing my best to be a giver, but when you're a giver, you're a magnet for takers, I didn't even notice the yellow flags. And the yellow flags are lead ups to the red flags. So oftentimes you can be like caution, but when you say stop and your body's telling you to stop and you still push forward, you're gonna screw yourself over.
And that is different than like a hard workout. Like for instance, nothing feels good in the middle. When you're going through a breakup, doesn't feel good. When you're going through building a business in the very beginning, or let's say you're someone that's starting a podcast, You're in the middle of this right now. What are you, like, 1,500 episodes? Yeah, about 1,500.
Yeah, and you want to get to, what?
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Chapter 7: How can I discern genuine connections from opportunistic ones?
Yeah, so you are in the middle of working your ass off, right? People don't see all the coordination that it takes to do something like this, scheduling, and there's going to be all kinds of mistakes, and not even mistakes you make, just shit that happens along the way, but you're in the middle of it.
So to condense that, if you're in the middle of a one hour workout and you have to put forth effort, that kind of sucks. But when you're done with it, ah, Now you're, hopefully, if you haven't injured yourself, you have gotten better. The more that we build up our tolerance to things that are expanding us, great.
Whenever we push through pain that's contracting us, we are closing off that energy field. It's really expanding. Does this person expand me or do they contract me? When you start feeling contractions, that's nature's way of saying, pay attention because pain is a messenger. And if you ignore pain, you'll start to drink the pain away, screw the pain away, Social media the pain away.
Gamble the pain away and you'll get yourself in trouble.
Yeah, you got to make some tough decisions because a lot of the times these people are your friends, right? And then something will happen. They'll change a little bit, whether it's money or fame or whatever it is. Absolutely.
Like I was talking to Alex Epstein yesterday. He's the guy that wrote Fossil Futures, one of the smartest energy guy that I know. And he's, you know, he's friends with Peter Thiel and Palmer Luckey and Jordan Peterson and a variety of people. His second interview with Jordan's getting ready to come out. And I had scheduled it. He used to be in Genius Network. Yeah.
And he'll be in and out at times, depending on where his life is at. And I introduced him to a guy named Tommy Mella, who I actually want to introduce you to. I've been on the show.
Oh, OK.
Perfect. Perfect. Yeah. So, yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. So, you know, Tommy's now got this billion dollar company. And at the very end of it, because I always talk shit to my friends. It's one of the endearing things I do is I kind of insult them in nice ways. And Alex said, he goes, you know, the thing about Joe. He goes, he was supporting me before anyone even knew who I was.
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