Digital Social Hour
The Dark Truth About Podcast Manipulation: Host Reveals All | Lindsey Graham DSH #1097
Mon, 13 Jan 2025
🎙️ A former podcast host breaks her silence and reveals the disturbing truth about podcast manipulation, toxic practices, and the dark side of the industry. Get an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at how certain shows exploit guests, manipulate environments, and profit from degrading content. In this eye-opening interview, discover shocking revelations about: - Hidden manipulation tactics used against guests - The truth about show production methods - How certain hosts profit from harmful content - The real impact on women in the industry - The intersection of faith, politics, and podcasting This powerful conversation goes beyond surface-level drama to expose concerning industry practices that everyone should know about. Our guest shares personal experiences and insider knowledge that will change how you view certain popular podcasts forever. Warning: This interview contains mature themes and discusses sensitive topics including manipulation and exploitation in the podcast industry. #PodcastIndustry #MediaTruth #BehindTheScenes #PodcastHost #MediaManipulation #news #cheatingwifestories #podcast #whateverpodcast #modernwomen CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:30 - My Freedom Cart 01:38 - Today's Sponsor 05:01 - Specialized Recruiting Group 05:56 - The Whatever Show 06:50 - Matt's Debate School 09:38 - Debate with Myron Gaines 12:32 - Psychology of the Show 15:25 - Christian Presence in Conservatism 18:00 - When Life Begins 19:04 - Abortion Statistics 20:06 - Nefarious: Merchant of Souls 21:09 - Closing Thoughts APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Lindsey Graham https://www.instagram.com/the.patriot.barbie SPONSORS: SPECIALIZED RECRUITING GROUP: https://www.srgpros.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/
Chapter 1: What are the hidden manipulation tactics used against podcast guests?
we are expected to be like suppressed we're expected to be quiet and like keep our hateful opinions to ourselves but they'll be the ones to bring it up and they'll say what they want about like oh you know it's a woman's choice and then you have to be quiet or you're the one causing the problem and i'm like that's not the way it worked you speak up and say what you need to say because if they're saying it they obviously have no problem you know keeping their opinion themselves why do we have to keep our opinion to ourselves that's crazy
Chapter 2: What is the My Freedom Cart and how does it relate to the podcast industry?
All right, guys, Patriot Barbie part two. We are at AmFest and you got a booth here yourself.
I do. Yeah, I got a vendor booth, not a podcast booth. Not as fun, but it's like a little bit of work this time. It's kind of rough.
Which one of your companies is that for?
The My Freedom Cart booth. Yep.
Nice. What do you sell?
So we refer people to shop Made in America toxic-free products, kind of like the conservative Amazon. And I had a bunch of girls fly in from Ohio, California. So we're having a good time.
Nice. Shout out to Masa. They're Made in America.
Oh, are they? Yeah. Awesome. See, there's a movement, right? There is a movement of people who are saying, let's get our dollars back into American dollars. And everyone says, oh, it's so hard to find stuff. But it's really not if you're actively looking. Right.
So you're a fan of these tariffs then? Yeah.
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Chapter 3: What are the toxic practices in the Whatever podcast?
Some of them are sweatshops.
Yep, yep. And then there's the whole, yeah, like child labor laws and who's making your clothes and are they doing it under duress?
Yeah, absolutely. You're going to be talking politics at the Christmas dinner table?
Of course. Of course. Always. I'll be wearing my MAGA hat. My whole family though is conservative. I was raised conservative. Yeah. So we have no problem. We've got a random like married in relative, you know, that might be... Actually, we have one specifically that's very democratic. So I'm like, we'll just... But they live out of state, so... Let's pray for you. Yeah.
You know, I'm not shy, so... Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How do hosts profit from harmful content?
I don't talk about it with my family.
You don't? No.
Just my mom.
Okay. Are they conservative or is it... All of them are liberal. Oh.
Oh no, that sucks. Well, I grew up in Jersey, so.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So here's my problem. We are expected to be like suppressed. We're expected to be quiet and like keep our hateful opinions to ourselves, but they'll be the ones to bring it up and they'll say what they want about like, oh, you know, it's a woman's choice and then you have to be quiet or you're the one causing the problem. And I'm like, that's not the way it works.
If you're going to be able to like sneak your little comments in, and this is of course not talking about my family because my family doesn't do this. But people all the time tell me, oh, my family's really liberal. I don't know what to say when they say this. I'm like, you speak up and say what you need to say.
Because if they're saying it, they obviously have no problem keeping their opinion to themselves. Why do we have to keep our opinion to ourselves?
Fair.
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Chapter 5: What is the impact on women in the podcast industry?
Did you have beef with the Whatever podcast?
I wondered if you'd go there. Total beef. Look, I'm not a feminist. Very much like a conservative traditional woman. But there are some very, very toxic beliefs going on on that show. And my problem is not that they're not entitled to their own opinion.
My problem is that I've been women empowerment my entire life, and I sat at the table with these women, and I watched them go from damaged to more damaged, and I'm not okay with that. I know that they subjected themselves by going on the show, but I don't think any woman...
really like goes on there thinking I'm the one that's going to get annihilated and it's going to hurt me more than I realized. Like they think that they are very founded and grounded in their beliefs, but when they get there, it's not the debate. It's not about a debate. It's about like, what are you doing to these women? And they're allowing their viewers to pay hundreds of dollars to
to leave like slanderous, inappropriate, hurtful comments to these women. And I'm like, so you're in a way like you're trafficking them, like you're pimping them because you're making money off other men degrading them. And I'm just, I'm not okay with that.
So when someone donates, they read out the message?
Yeah.
Wow. What if it's like the craziest message?
They don't care. There's no, there's nothing. You could, you could, it could be as sexual in connotation. It could be a curse word. It could be, I mean, think of like the worst thing you could say to a woman, they would totally read it out loud.
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Chapter 6: How does faith intersect with politics in podcasting?
Nope. You know what I mean? It's all about the money for them. And it's all about the shock factor and the value and the views. So, I mean, they're really not... Here's the thing. Like with you, you've got a pretty open mind. You've got different guests. I've seen you've got different guests, you know, democratic guests, different opinions, different views.
And you're at least giving people a platform to like... be able to think for themselves when they hear the different messages. These men are doing no good in the world. This show does no good.
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them making money. They don't want to make a difference. They're not helping these women. They're shaming them into like, quit your OnlyFans, but then they're not because these girls go on because they're OnlyFans.
They get more money. Yeah.
So these men that are watching and claiming to be these really traditional, amazing red-pilled men are going and paying for these women for sex photos. There's no good that comes out of that show. No.
Yeah, it's interesting. Plus, Andrew Wilson's a professional debater, so it's not fair for the girls on there to debate him.
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Chapter 7: What are the dangers of debate culture in podcasting?
Like,
Is there really a lot of pride in that? I don't think so.
Yeah, I'm not impressed with his debates there, but he is a good debater. I've seen him debate like actual people on his level and he's solid. I think he has a debate school. Like I think he teaches debate.
That sounds right.
He's got a huge edge.
And I'll give him that. He's a great debater. But again, I'm going to go back to like, Does winning a debate do anything for anybody? Or is it really like, are you changing hearts? He claims to be a Christian. Are you changing hearts? Are you expanding the kingdom of God? Are you bringing people to Jesus by debating them, by slandering them, by shaming them? Or like you want to debate. Awesome.
Like what does that get you in life? I want to debate. I'm going to walk around telling everybody I want to debate.
Did you and him go at it when you were on?
A little bit, yeah. He tried to shame me because I'm very open about my past in my 20s. I was in an abusive relationship. I was a dancer. I was a drug addict. I had an abortion, like really, really painful past. But I give glory to God for that on my Instagram. Like I just praise the Lord that he came to me in the darkest of my depths of my life and he saved me.
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Chapter 8: How should we address manipulation in the podcast industry?
And, you know, of course he took every single aspect of that testimony, which is not Christian-like, if you will. And he turned it against me and tried to shame me for it. And that is wrong because the gospel says that Jesus Christ died on the sin to forgive your sins and wash you clean, white as snow. And so for me to be washed clean by the Lord and then have this man come and say, I'm
you know, shame on you for this and you're manipulative this and you're a terrible woman this and no man should have married you this. I'm like, that's not what my God tells me. So who in the world are you to sit there claiming to be a follower of Christ and do that to women?
Yeah, that's interesting. We all got a dark past, you know, I don't think you should be living in shame like for years. I think you should learn from it and move on.
Right. And the ironic thing is, Andrew Wilson has a horrific track record.
Oh, really? I didn't know that.
Oh my gosh, he's gotten women pregnant out of wedlock. Oh, wow. His first wife, I think. I don't want to get the story correct or not correct, but the wife he has now, she has kids from other daddies. Oh, wow. Demands child support from them, speaks out against child support, right? And then he got another woman pregnant while he was dating her.
married that chick, divorced that chick, went back to her and then got her pregnant and then married her. Like, wait a minute. Traditional. Remember how they claim to be the traditional man and woman? Yeah. There's nothing traditional about that. And I don't shame him or her for that.
But it's interesting that you would live a life that doesn't live up to the values you preach while shaming everyone else for theirs.
Yeah.
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