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NEVER Do This: Top Sports Bettor Exposes Industry Lies | Tyson Nguyen DSH #1023
Fri, 27 Dec 2024
NEVER Do This: Top Sports Bettor Exposes Industry Lies 🚫💰 Tune in now as we sit down with Tyson, one of the hottest sports bettors in the game! 🔥 At just 19, he's shaking up the industry and revealing shocking truths you won't hear anywhere else. Discover how Tyson built a thriving business, retired his parents, and amassed a following of over 120,000 members in the biggest sports betting Discord. 📈 Learn about the real risks of sports betting, insider strategies, and why 99.8% of bettors lose in the long run. From his unconventional start at age 5 to his current success, Tyson shares invaluable insights on bankroll management, avoiding common pitfalls, and the truth behind those tempting parlay bets. 🎰 He also opens up about his journey as an Asian-American entrepreneur and the challenges he faced dropping out of high school. Don't miss out on this eye-opening conversation that exposes industry lies and offers a realistic perspective on sports betting. Whether you're a seasoned bettor or just curious about the world of sports gambling, this episode is packed with valuable insights you can't afford to miss! Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Join the conversation and learn why Tyson believes in giving back to his community and helping others succeed. Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more captivating stories and expert advice! 📺 #prizepicks #nflbets #footballbettingpredictionsfortoday #nbaplayerprops #bettingtipstoday #nflpicks #prizepicks #nflbets #footballpredictionstoday #bet365 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:32 - Tyson's Journey into Sports Betting 05:00 - Control in Sports Betting 07:36 - Building a Successful Sports Betting Discord 17:25 - Approaching Your Sports Betting Business 19:10 - The Sports Betting Industry's Reputation 21:08 - Developing Innovative Betting Software 28:40 - Retiring Parents at a Young Age 33:30 - Launching a Free Sports Betting Platform 35:10 - Discord Challenges 36:30 - Importance of a Financial Safety Net 37:46 - Significance of Tattoos 40:27 - Cultivating Mental Strength 46:03 - Early Business Ventures 49:20 - Importance of Taking Action 50:40 - Navigating the 9-5 Grind 52:30 - Dealing with Fake Touts 54:10 - Understanding Red Streaks 55:25 - Real Insights into Sports Betting 57:36 - Finding Tyson’s Betting Picks 57:43 - Closing Thoughts APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Tyson Nguyen https://www.instagram.com/securedtys https://www.youtube.com/@SecuredPicks/videos LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Digital Social Hour works with participants in sponsored media and stays compliant with Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations regarding sponsored media. #ad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What sparked Tyson's journey into sports betting?
You're the only Asian dropout I know from high school. Really? Yeah. Because they don't have the strength.
Once junior year hit, I had built a business before that. I sat down with my mom. Before I even started talking, bro, just to grab her like, hey, I'm okay, we'll talk. Crying everywhere, bro, like I swear. The anxiety and stress you get just from telling your parents that you don't want to go to college is unreal.
She's always been so supportive of me, but for some reason with culture in college, it's so different. F***.
We're live, Digital Social Hour here with Tyson, one of the hottest sports bettors right now. Thanks for coming on. First podcast as well.
Yeah, it is. Super excited, though. But got a little butterflies and stuff. But we're chilling. We're chilling.
You're chilling, bro. And you're 19 in the sports betting space.
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Chapter 2: How did Tyson build a successful sports betting Discord?
Yeah, I'm 19, which people kind of get confused because they're like, how can you sports bet when you're 19? But prize picks, chalkboard and stuff is like 18. At least when I first started, you could be 18. Now it's 19.
i feel like they lowered it because i thought it was 21 but maybe it's always been that yeah it actually has it's 21 for like traditional books like draft kings vandal but prize picks i guess they want to hit everyone so they they're 18 and up now or 19 and up now so yeah so pretty much the second you're a legal adult you could become a degenerate yeah and you've been able to figure it out fast because i feel like most people don't get good at sports betting until they're way older
Yeah, that's honestly mainly because I've been sports fan since I was a little kid. There's pictures of me five years old playing poker with my family. With my Christmas money, birthday money, 20 bucks, 40 bucks, whatever it is, I'm gambling. That's just always been... It's like an addiction, right? So I've always been used to, I've been exposed to gambling a lot.
So I know like the exact mentality of it. Like anytime I go on social media or go on live or whatever, I'm like, I know what you're thinking right now. You're going to do this, you're going to do this. And they're like, how the fuck? I'm like, dude, because every gambler generally thinks the same. But that's why also I'm like, the books know this shit. They know what you want.
Now, why do you think their ads and stuff hit hella hard? And the second you're on that platform, you lose it all. So that's why I always try to get people to like, you know, lock in and then like just be a lot better. And then they end up, they like, no matter what, if you have good strategies, you will win more. You might not win just in general because gambling is harder, but you will win more.
That's like almost a guarantee.
Yeah. That's interesting. So you grew up around gambling though. You said you were playing poker at five.
Yes, bro. Like, so there's this thing called Chinese New Year's. So like we'll gamble and it's like a whole week, at least in my family, it's a whole week of gambling, like poker, a bunch of different games and stuff like that. And you're just, I was exposed to gambling. I like actually more like four, five years old, but like when I gained consciousness at five or six years old,
i was like gambling and it was like the second chinese new year's ended all i'm talking about was like okay when's the next chinese new year's because it's you know the moon calendar the lunar calendar yeah so it's like when is it gonna be because on chinese new year's you get like 10 20 bucks from your family as a gift you throw that all back in gambling so i learned poker like chinese poker really early on like i was competing with like my adults like my uncles like my mom my dad whatever on the same level as them with poker
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Chapter 3: What are the biggest challenges in the sports betting industry?
a lot of people could probably resonate with this like they always have at least one or two family members with gambling addictions right like oh my uncle or aunt lost all their money to gambling so like i had those people too so i always knew what to look for and what not to do like the biggest skill you can have is learn from other people's mistakes like you don't have to necessarily make the mistakes yourself you know so that's pretty much how it all started like yeah as a young and so that being said did you ever lose anything lose everything
Oh, growing up? Oh, hell yeah. Hell of times. Like, this one New Year's, I was down, like, 200 bucks. And as a five-year-old, or I was probably, like, seven or eight. As a five-year-old, 200 bucks is, like, I felt like I lost the lottery. Like, I felt like I won the lottery. That's a lot at that age. Like, $200 was a lot at that time. But I lost it all. And my uncle, he tried to teach me a lesson.
So, he won my money, right? Because I was, like, full degenerate. I was, like, oh, I lost 20 bucks. Give me back 50 bucks. And I kept doubling it. Because you know that mentality, oh, if I keep doubling, eventually I'll win. I don't believe in that shit. Yeah, I don't believe in that shit. Because my uncle was like, okay, I'll just keep doing this, keep doing this.
And he ended up winning 200 bucks, right? It was like four bets in a row. I was stupid. And he ended up winning all my cousin's money and gave all my cousin's money back. And he didn't give mine back. And I was just sitting in the corner like, Like, well, my life sucks. I just ruined all this stuff. But I wasn't mad at him.
I was mad at the fact that I did stupid shit and just like kept throwing it on the board. Like, why are you like so emotional, right? So that's kind of like, but it's not like, oh, you get a flip. The next year I was doing the same thing.
So it's like, it takes so many years to actually get to that point to when I hit 18 and then now I can actually be on these books and now it's different, you know? So that's essentially how it all started too, yeah.
And do you feel like with sports betting, you have the most control?
Sports betting, at times, yes. But with sports betting, whenever someone asks me that, it's like, oh, are there factors where you can control? To a certain extent, you can't control anything because you can't control the lines. You can't control when they drop. What you can't control is what's going on up here.
So most sports bettors, if you do the math, plus EV, for instance, statistically, you have an edge over the books if you find those certain props. But the thing is, that is assuming that you as a person can run one unit every bet for hundreds and hundreds of bet. Realistically, no human out there can emotionally control what they're betting.
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Chapter 4: How did Tyson retire his parents at a young age?
So what you can control is your emotion, how many bets you place, what type of games you bet on, the sports you bet on, all that stuff that you can control, then you have way more of an advantage compared to you last week. And then you have to just take what the books give you, right? Because we can't do anything about that. You can run more promos. Some books will have no limit promos.
Chalkboard, one of my books that I run, they'll give you a discounted prop and they won't put a limit on it. Most books will put a $10 limit because why would they give you an edge? But Chalkboard, no limit. I'll throw two grand on that, cash out for five grand. And it's like you have the highest odds of hitting. So you have to be really selective about things. And
Like, the things that you can control is not gambling every day. Like, you don't need to be gambling every single day. A lot of people, they're just full degenerate mode, right? Which is fine. We all like to have fun. But at the same time, if you're going full degenerate mode and at the end of the day you lose, don't tweak out because you're going to do the same thing. Full degenerate mode, right?
So you have to try and get out of that cycle and that loop. So the things that I try and control is just my mental state. So, like, if I lose, I truly kind of act like it's paper trading because – If you act like you're sitting there, oh fuck, I just lost rent money. I just lost this. I'll bet two, five, 10 grand a bet each slip.
And that's just how it is because I think of it more as like units and slips. So if I'm down six grand, right? And my units are two grand, I'm down three units. Three units, you could win that back by winning one slip, like one and a half slips, whatever. But like, it's not that serious how I like to think of it. The people who lose the most are the ones that take it so serious.
Like it's okay to take it serious because you know it's money. Like we work hard for that money. But at the same time, you worked hard for that money. Why are you being stupid with it? Right. Think of the logic. So it's like if you're going to like it's like it's not the lottery where you're just putting in random numbers. It's like you can make calculated decisions.
You may have a slight less edge, but you still are in control of that.
Absolutely. So when did the Discord start? Because you have the biggest Discord in the sports betting space, right?
Yeah, so we have 120,000 members. We're gaining like 10, 20,000 members a week right now.
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Chapter 5: What common pitfalls should bettors avoid?
It's like It's $15 Like, $15 for years of strategies, the best picks of the day. We're working nonstop. I have a team of 12 staff. My staff is 12 people. They're all on payroll. Like, it's $15, bro. You know what I mean? Like, so we're doing this for the community, yes, but at the same time, we're still a business. And so, like, my personal sports betting journey has been crazy.
Discord's been crazy. Like, it's like, I want to get to the point where everyone is just in this community just getting way better, you know? Like, we're at the point where...
we'll come up with strategies like oh we'll run correlation bets so we used to run a lot of correlation what's a correlation but so correlation bet is like so it's where you're betting on a team to like hand in hand help each other like so you're betting on the uh quarterback and then you're betting on the wide receiver because if the quarterback does good the wide receiver will most likely do good or let's say like that there's just a correlation in the bets right so we used to run a lot of that
And we were printing, right? Now the books, they flagged it. So now we can't run correlation bets that much. If you do it too much, they flag your account.
Oh, wow. So they'll ban you.
Exactly. They'll ban you, those type of things. So me personally, I have to figure out ways to help my community in general while still making sure that it's possible. So plus EV, correlation plays, all these things where... It's like fancy terms, but basically it's like, imagine if you're playing blackjack, the dealer always has the edge.
So in a sense, the player gets the edge over the books by doing all these fancy little terms.
Right. Yeah. So, cause these books have probably crazy algorithms to make the lines.
Exactly. So it's like they're, they're algorithms and they're like staff and team. I don't know how they do it, but when they make these lines, they're so exact. They're like down to the yard, like 27.5 yards. Why not? 28 yards. Like, like, you know what I mean? So, But the thing is, like, those players will always land right there.
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Chapter 6: Why are parlays generally a bad idea in sports betting?
And I was like, guys... I'm putting the same amount of bets as you. I care. I actually care about you guys winning. That's why I made the entry fee so cheap. I made it 15 bucks. Who doesn't have 15 bucks?
That's the lowest I've heard in your space.
Yeah, exactly. They're mostly at 500 bucks a month, 500 bucks a year. My year pass is 200 bucks for a whole year. Wow.
You can make that off one bet.
Exactly. And exactly. So like all my members yesterday and it's like, it's, it just gets so crazy because the way we operate the business is like, we prioritize our members first and then the members will pour in. Like one person refers to or three person people. And now I'm just blown up. Right. So it's like from a business side of points, it's smart for me to do that.
And from an actual human side of points, I grew up with families with gambling addictions. I never promote gambling, but if they already gamble, I'll be like that cool uncle. Yeah. Who fucking gives you weed? Like if you're gonna smoke weed anyways, I'll fucking give you the best weed out there, right? So that's how I like to operate things. That's the way I've always operated things.
Cause like, yeah, I talked to all my members one-on-one. Anyone watching this can literally DM me on Instagram. And whenever I have time, I just answer all their DMs. And like any advice, you can talk to me for like 10 days. Like, and I'm giving you advice. That's just how I operate. Even if you don't pay me.
know that's just how i operate the business that's where i like to good karma exactly so it's like in the industry where it's a bunch of scummy people and a bunch of you know not ethical people i try to be as ethical as possible because my passion isn't in robbing people for 15 bucks a week my passion isn't actually helping people win yeah and like when people win i just make more money just in general yeah yeah your industry has a bad rep
Terrible rep. It's terrible. I tell people, oh, I'm a sports player, and they give me a little side eye. I'm like, bro, but it's a little bit different.
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Chapter 7: What strategies can help bettors succeed long-term?
Was she a gambler?
No, no, no. She doesn't agree with the gambling at all until I actually started making money. My dad's a fucking degenerate though, but I love my dad, but yeah, he's a degenerate. He's kind of what taught me what not to do. Basically like we're in Vegas. So he's always be up in Vegas and she actually come up with him and watch him lose it all. So like stuff like that.
But when I sent my mom that money, it was crazy about my dad at Corvette. I don't like all this stuff. I don't even show on social media too. Cause like, that's just shit that I actually wanted to do. I market my lifestyle and like the shit that I buy all fancy watches, fancy cars. All I care about is my parents.
The most I spend a month, if I spend six figures a month just out of my own pocket, majority of that's going to my parents. I swear to God, a lot of rich people won't help their parents. And I'm always like, they're the reason you're alive. That's how I see it because growing up, dinner or whatever, or even trips to Disneyland, I'm always like, man, I can't wait to pay him back.
Can't wait to pay him back. So like when I retired, my mom, it was great. It was from sports betting and business because you cannot just retire your parents making 20, 30 K a month from sports betting. So I'm very transparent about that. It's like, I own a very successful business that along with my sports betting is what allowed me to
uh retire my parents and live this lifestyle it's not just sports betting if it was just sports betting i would be a lot more right down there that's why you know people who say like they bought this 10 million dollar house off sports betting i don't know how true that's off selling picks yeah i mean it's off selling picks like the thing is you have to be honest with people because you will trick them into believing that they're going to become a millionaire just like you but it's not true
I like to just monetize what I've actually done. But I never say, hey, you could take that $100 into $100K. That's what everyone says. I'm like, you're not going to help them take that $100K to $100K. Right? You know what I mean? It's like with my parents too. When I started sports betting, they hated it. But anyways, like when I retired my mom, it was great.
Like I remember the process of retiring her was very – Boom, like that. It wasn't like, oh, mom, I'm starting to make money. I'm starting to make money. Within six months, I called her up, and I was like, because she lives somewhere else, and I lived in California, right? Because it's just way cheaper to buy a house over there, and she worked her whole life to buy this house.
She told me it took her 21 years to buy this house. Damn. So I called her up. I go, hey, mom, I'm going to get you a penthouse. She goes, what? What are you talking about? And I go, you're retired. Just come down. And so we toured the penthouse, 20 something blah, blah, blah floor. And then the most expensive one that you could rent there. And I go, just live here. I don't even care if it's rent.
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Chapter 8: How does Tyson plan to give back to the community?
You can see, oh, that's a successful business. They could be in bankruptcy and you wouldn't know, right? Like shit like that is so real. So it's like entrepreneurship is a different level of mindset that you have to have going into it. And just normal people just, they just wouldn't know. So- No, they wouldn't. Yeah, like tattoos.
I purposely got my hand tattooed because there's no going back after this. There's no going back, you know?
That one must have hurt.
Yeah, that shit was hell, bro. Straight bone. But it's like, you just gotta, in the same sense as how tattoos are all mental, I genuinely believe business and a lot of other things are just all mental. Because at the end of the day, we're all human. And we are all capable of doing the same exact thing.
We can all do the same thing, but it's just the guy who's mentally there who can stay up those hours, who can say fuck off to everyone and just get to work, right? Those are the only people succeeding. The entrepreneurs, people who think about business and go, oh, I want to get into business because I want to control my own hours and I want to be more free. You're not... You're working more hours.
Way more. Double. Way more. Double the hours.
Instead of a 9 to 5, you're working 9 to 12.
Yep.
Like, pretty much. Like, that's what I do every day. Like, I'm in Vegas. Supposed to be having a good time. I was working all morning. And then now we're here working, and then I'm going to go home and work. And then maybe we'll have some fun, right? So, like, that's just how I see it with everything.
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