
Digital Social Hour
How Alternative Media Saved Free Speech in America | Josh Seiter DSH #1194
Fri, 21 Feb 2025
Discover how alternative media became a lifeline for free speech in America! π½ποΈ In this explosive episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly, special guest Josh shares his eye-opening journey, including his viral six-month social experiment that challenged gender ideology and sparked nationwide debate. π₯ From the influence of Joe Rogan and alternative media to the fight against censorship and societal shifts, this conversation is packed with valuable insights you won't want to miss. π‘ Β ποΈββοΈ Josh dives into the challenges of free speech, the role of podcasts, and how platforms like X and independent voices are reshaping the narrative. Plus, hear about his personal transformation, his time in law school, and even his unexpected stint as a male stripper! π² Β Join the conversation on the future of free speech, gender identity, and the changing political landscape. Don't miss this thought-provoking discussion thatβs guaranteed to get you thinking. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets! πΊ Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! π Β CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:29 - Josh's Social Experiment 03:15 - Conservative Women's Reactions 06:18 - Trump's Executive Order 09:31 - Hollywood's Influence 11:05 - How the Left Changed 13:18 - Public School System 19:00 - Personal Conservative Journey 24:30 - Trump and DEI Impact on Businesses 28:01 - Conflict with Xavier DeGuzman 34:36 - Male Stripping Discussion 32:01 - Changes to OnlyFans Platform 37:20 - Reasons for Stopping Stripping 37:34 - Magic Mike Overview 38:45 - Future Plans for Josh Β APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] Β GUEST: Josh Seiter https://www.instagram.com/josh_seiter_official https://linktr.ee/Joshseiter.com Β LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Β #advocacyinkenya #dailywire #mediaanalysis #identitypolitics #jordanpeterson Β #donaldtrump #news #livenews #latestnews #alternativemediaimpact
Chapter 1: Why did Josh Seiter conduct a social experiment on gender ideology?
All right, guys. Got Josh here all the way from Chicago. Thanks for making it out today, my man. Thanks for having me, man.
I appreciate it.
Coming off a five-month social experiment, made the headlines. Joe Rogan was just talking about it. Congrats on all the PR, man.
Thank you. I appreciate it, man. That means a lot.
Yeah. Did you expect it to blow up like it did?
Yes and no. I knew it was probably going to make some headlines just because I had been on The Bachelorette and I've been in the news before. And that topic is so polarizing. Gender ideology is probably one of the biggest topics for sociopolitical issues going on right now. So I thought it was going to make a splash.
But I didn't think it was going to make quite the splash it made with the number of people talking about it. I wasn't expecting Megyn Kelly to be talking about it, Michael Knowles, and a lot of the people that ended up commentating on what I did. So that part was unexpected. I thought it was going to be more just people on social media discussing this and discussing wider issues related to it.
But I was kind of shocked how it made it into the mainstream media a little bit more.
I feel that. Now making it to Rogan's. Super crazy. Yeah, so that's kind of top of the hill. Yeah for people that don't know about the experiment Could you explain what you did?
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Chapter 2: What reactions did Josh Seiter receive from different communities?
Yeah, so in May of last year I announced that I was transgender and I was gonna transition and I was now a woman named Jay I was no longer Josh and for six months I put on dresses makeup and lipstick and I made videos every day on Instagram documenting my journey as a woman. And I wanted to see what people's reaction was going to be to it. And there's a lot of people that said, we support you.
You are a valid woman. There's a lot of people that said, you're still a man. You need to shave more and then you'd be a woman. Or if you would just do your makeup better, then you'd be a valid trans woman. And so I did that for six months. And then in October, I announced on Alex Stein's show, Primetime with Alex Stein, that it was all a social experiment to kind of expose
why gender ideology is pernicious, and that at the end of the day, we're all just men in makeup and lipstick. We're not women. There's no magical transformative power to saying, I'm trans. And the medical guidelines are creating a problem by allowing people to self-identify into women's spaces who aren't women.
I love that. Was six months always the plan, or were you planning on doing it longer?
Six months was always the plan. I wanted to keep it short enough to keep people engaged. I didn't want to go too long where I lost interest or people kind of moved on to other things. So me and the people that I came up with this idea with kind of thought six months would be about the perfect time.
Which community's reactions were you surprised with that either supported or did not support it?
I was surprised because a lot of conservative women were commenting on my posts and saying, we support you no matter what you are. We're Trump supporters. We don't care as long as you don't go after kids. We don't care what anyone does. And so I was surprised by that. The kids was definite. People were very passionate when it came to children.
As long as you don't try to recruit children into this cult, we don't care what you do. We never have. We never will. And so I thought that was interesting, and I thought that was a good point, that most people really don't care what adults in America do. They're just going to get really mad when you start trying to recruit kids into something.
Facts. And that was the issue with the trans movement. I think a lot of people had was they were teaching it to kids basically in schools.
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Chapter 3: How have Trump's policies impacted gender and sports?
curriculum in schools to kids that are between the ages of 5 and 10, there's going to be problems. When you start bringing kids to drag shows, people are going to be upset about that. If you want to believe a lie, that's fine, but don't tell kids a lie and tell them that's the truth. Don't talk to little kids about things that aren't appropriate. I think
100%.
Yeah, kids was the big one. And I feel like sports was probably secondary. A lot of people hated that.
sports is another one that's huge it's their biological realities and differences between the sexes and so when you lots of times there are high school boys teams that beat professional women's teams because there are sex-based differences and realities in this world so when you start allowing biological men to compete in women's sports
there's an unfair advantage and it's going to lead to a lot of the problems that we see happening now and why people didn't see that see the writing on the wall with that and thought it would be a good idea to let men into women's sports i don't know but we're witnessing the backlash now i think in the consequences of those poor decisions yeah especially in fighting sports boxing
There's Fallon is a male fighter that does MMA fights against women and routinely hurts them. Fallon Fox. There's been Leah Thomas routinely crushes women in swimming. There's so many examples of it. There's a volleyball player, I believe, at USC that is hurting women whenever they spike the ball. because their wingspan is different and they're used to playing on courts with higher nets.
So there's a lot of problems and dangers and health issues that are involved when you let men compete in combat sports and other sports with women.
Yeah, Trump just put an end to that though, right? He signed an executive order, I believe.
Trump did. Yeah. So he declared there's only two genders, two sexes. A lot of times those terms get conflated with each other. But he said, whatever you want to call it, there's only two of them. And we're getting rid of trans people in the military. We're getting rid of men and women's sports and we're getting rid.
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Chapter 4: How is Hollywood influencing societal views on gender?
Yeah. It's crazy that that's an order, man, that there's only two genders.
the fact that trump even had to say that is an indictment i think on how shallow the intellectual waters have become and how far we've kind of fallen on a society that it took donald trump a reality star to bring reality back to us and let us know hey we're kind of living in a clown world now we need to realize some simple truths and it took donald trump telling us that as president for a lot of people to understand this so nuts man i had a girlfriend in high school and her i guess her brother was trans i don't know what to call it but
He just didn't seem happy, man, because you're taking all these pills. It's like really messing with your head, I feel like.
Yeah. And the problem is a lot of these people that are trans have pre-existing mental health conditions. And so they're just exacerbated when you start injecting chemicals into your body. And I believe a lot of these people are brainwashed. I think that they are dealing with anxiety and depression and other related mental health issues.
They feel like they don't have a purpose or meaning and they find a purpose and meaning in this community.
um that celebrates them and says everyone else needs to celebrate you and so i think it's very alluring but i think it's very dangerous and i think a lot of people that are predisposed to mental health issues fall into this kind of cult community and it just creates more problems for them so it's really sad to see but it's good that we're taking steps to protect kids from going down that path right well some people theorize that if you're trans you have mental health issues right
Well, even under the DSM-5, it's categorized not as a mental illness, but as a disorder. So even in the DSM-5, they're categorizing it as a thought disorder. So they're saying, you know, unequivocally, something's wrong with you if you have this. But unlike body dysmorphia, which is also a thought disorder, with body dysmorphia, it's fallacious thinking about your body.
You have thoughts about your body that are not accurate. Well, the same is true for gender dysphoria. You're having thoughts about your body, I'm born in the wrong body, that aren't accurate. But with body dysmorphia, we treat it with correcting the fallacious thinking. With gender dysphoria, we indulge the fallacious thinking and we entertain it and we encourage it.
And so I just think it's egregious that we treat body dysmorphia, anorexia, bulimia, and schizophrenia by correcting the faulty thinking involved in it. But when it comes to gender dysphoria, we encourage the delusions. And I think that's medically negligent, and I think it's egregious. We should treat gender dysphoria like we treat any other thought disorder, and that's by correcting it.
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Chapter 5: Why did Josh Seiter shift from liberal to libertarian views?
Agreed. Yeah, alternative media was a game changer this past election.
Yeah, Joe Rogan interviewing Donald Trump was a seminal moment in the election. I think X was instrumental in people getting the truth. Because the mainstream media will just lie, and they'll lie to you and gaslight you with a straight face. But when you have alternative media, they can expose it and say, these people are lying, and we'll show you how.
And X was really good at revealing the lies that the mainstream media was peddling. Mm-hmm. And so I think that was really instrumental in opening people's eyes and getting people to vote for Donald Trump. I mean, they came out in record numbers, blacks, Latinos. There were counties that hadn't voted red since 1890 that were voting for Donald Trump.
And I think alternative media did a good job of kind of countering the lies that were being told by the mainstream media. I don't think he would have won without it, to be honest. No, it would have been hard because the mainstream media has it out for Donald Trump. I mean, everything that anytime I turn on CNN or MSNBC, they're just railing against him.
Usually it's about how what he did was offensive. It's not really on the merits of anything Donald Trump's doing or policy positions. They just don't like how he goes about things. And I think if the mainstream media still had a stranglehold on information, then Kamala Harris would have got elected. So I think alternative media did a good job in kind of getting rid of that stranglehold.
I feel like he's done more in his first week than Biden did in four years.
I feel like Trump has fixed in his first week so many things that Biden destroyed in four years of being president. There's just so much that it seems so obvious now. Hey, don't let 11 million people break into our country illegally. Hey, why don't we vet the people that are moving into our neighborhoods that came across the border?
these people should be held accountable somehow for their actions. And that wasn't being done under Biden. And so these seems like common sense things that should have been done a long time ago. And for some reason, it took Donald Trump to do these things, even saying, you know, we're not going to mutilate children anymore. We're not going to chemically castrate children. Children can't consent.
They're minors. So we're not going to mutilate their bodies. Why did it take a declaration from Donald Trump to get that done? And why was Biden allowing it.
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Chapter 6: How is alternative media shaping political narratives?
Dude, I hope you're there.
It's always been a bucket list goal of mine. That's a historic building, you know.
I think you being there would be more productive than a propaganda machine like CNN being there. I mean, at least I think what you do is you have conversations. I think you actually elucidate issues. You actually crystallize things that are going on. I don't think the mainstream media does any of that.
They have a narrative that they're going to spin, and it doesn't matter what's going on or what the facts are. They're just going to spew out propaganda. And so I hope you get your press credentials.
I hope so. If you're watching this, guys, please, please approve me. But yeah, the mainstream, they're just looking for gotcha moments. So when they're at the White House, they're like, oh, how can I screw over Trump right now with a question?
Yeah, I don't think the mainstream media cares about the truth. Journalists' whole job is finding the truth. That's literally what they're supposed to be doing. And they don't do that anymore. They're not unbiased. They're not objective. If they were, then when there's a man playing in women's sports, the media would say, a man just competed.
in a female sport they never say that right they will either call them a trans woman or a woman though that but that's a lie and you're a journalist so do your job and journalism's no longer about doing their job it's about being basically democratic apparatchiks and working for the woke mob and trying to brainwash the society so that they can accomplish the goals they want to accomplish.
And I think that should be the job of activists. I don't think that should be the job of journalists. They should just report things unbiasedly and they should try to get at the truth of issues.
Absolutely. Do you think Trump putting an end to DEI will help businesses?
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