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Check out Ghost Story, a series essential pick, completely ad-free on Apple Podcasts. This week, we released our 100th episode of our other podcast, This Is Love. To mark the occasion, we've done something very different. A story about my mother, Valentine, who died this spring. We wanted to share it here, too.
On December 14th last year, Lauren Spohr, who I've made these shows with for the last 10 years, and I were driving to the local PBS television station in North Carolina to record an interview about the last 10 years of Criminal. I remember we decided it would be a good idea to go to a hair salon that morning and have them try to do something with our hair. We never do this.
And when we do, we're never happy with how it comes out. But we tried. We went to the hair salon at 8 a.m. We were on our way to the interview by 9.30. I like to be early everywhere I go, so we got there early. We were sitting in the car in the parking lot waiting. And two minutes before we were supposed to walk in, I got a phone call.
My mother had gone to have a CAT scan of her stomach a few weeks earlier because of some issue with gallstones, her gallbladder. Nothing serious. But during that scan, they had found something else on her pancreas. Pancreatic cancer. I remember sitting in the car listening to the woman and thinking, I needed her to stop explaining things for a second. I couldn't catch up.
The options weren't great. My mother at 73 had had some health issues and was not a good candidate for the long and invasive surgery that could be done. Putting her through radiation, chemo, treatment would be hard and probably wouldn't add that much time to her life. Pancreatic cancer. I didn't know much about it, but I'd always heard that it was the worst.
It's hard to be told that there's nothing anyone can do. When my father was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago, I got on the phone and he was sitting with an oncologist a week later, making a plan, signing up for the newest clinical trial. And so this news, to be told that this was it, was odd. Lauren and I walked into the studio and started our interview with PBS.
I remember being asked questions about how I felt about true crime media and what makes a good story, and thinking, none of this matters at all. Two days later, I flew to Massachusetts to see her. I remember walking into her room and realizing that this cancer hadn't taken over yet. She seemed great, happy, hungry. It was that first trip to see her after I found out that I started recording.
Okay. Would you introduce yourself? My name is Valentine Judge. I'm 73 years old, and I've been living in Chicago for about 25 years. And now I'm back here close to Phoebe and close to the many humorous acts that we will perform.
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