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Confidence Classic: You Can Be REMARKABLE: The Guide To Growth, Grit, & Grace with Guy Kawasaki Chief Evangelist of Canva & Remarkable People Podcast Creator

Wed, 19 Feb 2025

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In This Episode You Will Learn About:  The straightforward guide to becoming REMARKABLE How you can SHIFT your mindset to building a better future The power of doing good & how it reflects back on you The common denominator between 200 remarkable people  Resources: Website: guykawasaki.com  Read Think Remarkable Listen to Remarkable People Podcast Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram & LinkedIn: @GuyKawasaki Get 50% off your first box plus free shipping at factormeals.com/confidence50off with code confidence50off. Get 10% off your first Mitopure order at timeline.com/CONFIDENCE. Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning at NetSuite.com/MONAHAN Head to AirDoctorPro.com and use promo code CONFIDENCE to get UP TO $300 off today Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/monahan Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/CONFIDENCE. Call my digital clone at 201-897-2553!  Visit heathermonahan.com Reach out to me on Instagram & LinkedIn Sign up for my mailing list: heathermonahan.com/mailing-list/  Overcome Your Villains is Available NOW! Order here: https://overcomeyourvillains.com  If you haven't yet, get my first book, Confidence Creator Show Notes:  What if you could be remarkable? Today we are beyond thrilled to share the microphone with none other than Guy Kawasaki, a beacon of ingenuity and the mastermind behind the Remarkable People podcast and author of Think Remarkable. He is here to break it down! After interviewing 200 remarkable people, Guy has determined the common denominator and is here to share it with us. Let’s take this wisdom and run with it! Are you ready?

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Chapter 1: How can you become remarkable?

80.612 - 104.446 Guy Kawasaki

Being remarkable is not easy. If it was, there would be more remarkable people, quite frankly, right? So the way to be remarkable is not to decide to be remarkable. The way to be remarkable is decide to make the world a better place. So this could be as a teacher, as a coach, as a mentor, as a parent.

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105.166 - 110.249 Guy Kawasaki

You could also make the case you could make the world a better place by turning your own life around.

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110.569 - 128.839 Heather Monahan

Come on this journey with me. Each week when you join me, we are going to chase down our goals, overcome adversity, and set you up for a better tomorrow. I'm ready for my close-up. Tell me, have you been enjoying these new bonus confidence classics episodes we've been dropping on you every week?

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128.919 - 158.282 Heather Monahan

We've literally hundreds of episodes for you to listen to, so these bonuses are a great way to help you find the ones you may have already missed. I hope you love this one as much as I do. I'm so glad you're back here with us this week. Okay, you're gonna be as excited as I am for our guest today. Guy Kawasaki is the chief evangelist of Canva and host of the Remarkable People podcast.

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158.542 - 183.684 Heather Monahan

So he's a trustee of the Wikimedia Foundation, Mercedes-Benz brand ambassador. I bet you're driving a nice ride. and special assistant to the Motorola division of Google. Kawasaki has a BA from Stanford University, an MBA from UCLA, and honorary doctorate from Babson College. Back in my hood. He lives in Watsonville, California, and he is with us today. Guy, thank you so much for being here today.

183.984 - 207.977 Guy Kawasaki

Yes, thank you. But if I could just issue a couple corrections there. Yes. I am no longer on the board of trustees of Wikipedia. You roll off those things. And I am no longer a brand ambassador for Mercedes. They kind of did not continue that program. Although I still have one. And actually, I have one on order, too.

208.897 - 232.063 Guy Kawasaki

I was an advisor to the president of the Motorola division of Google, but that was sold off. So what I am is I am the chief evangelist of Canva. I'm the host of the Remarkable People podcast. And I do live in Watsonville, and I love to surf. So that's the three most important things.

233.18 - 250.215 Heather Monahan

a really cool guy, totally down to earth. And you never know guy, you know, this with as many people as you interview, you never know what someone's really going to be like when you first meet them. And I just want to say how refreshing it is to see how cool you are. You're just like a regular guy. So thank you for being so nice.

250.959 - 276.625 Guy Kawasaki

Well, I mean, I think that as I write about, I think that people go through, like, if they do it and they're lucky, they go through three phases. There's the growth phase where you're learning new skills and embracing new things. There's the grit phase where you're paying the price and you're working hard. And there's the grace phase. And I hope that I'm in the grace phase now.

Chapter 2: What are the growth, grit, and grace phases?

277.185 - 308.656 Guy Kawasaki

And so I, being a podcaster, I don't know about you, but we get about 10 requests a day to be on our podcast. And so I'm rejecting hundreds of people every year. So I know that the fact that I'm on your podcast. I'm at least one or two of the most important people that sent you a request of the 10 that day. So that means you're doing me a favor and it's a privilege and an honor.

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309.226 - 328.869 Heather Monahan

Well, thank you so much for having that perspective. All right, Guy, tell us, you just brought up your new book, first of all, Think Remarkable. Wanted to mention because you just brought up growth, grit and grace, the three sections of the book. Can you elaborate a little bit on the idea that we have this growth, grit and grace phases if we're lucky?

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329.619 - 355.018 Guy Kawasaki

Yeah, I think that based on my interviews with these 200 remarkable people over the past four years, and when I say remarkable, I truly do mean remarkable. These are people like Jane Goodall, Stacey Abrams, Margaret Atwood. Angela Duckworth, Woz, Stephen Wolfram, the youngest MacArthur fellow, you know, over and over again.

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355.038 - 386.701 Guy Kawasaki

And so what I noticed is this common pattern of you don't get to be remarkable unless you have a growth mindset. People with fixed mindsets, they believe that they are what they are. They cannot embrace new subjects, new topics. The skills they have are the skills they'll all ever have. They can't make it better. And it won't get worse. And that's just not true of remarkable people.

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386.881 - 414.272 Guy Kawasaki

Remarkable people are always learning and trying and working hard, which leads us to the second phase. Because, I mean, even if you're willing to learn a new sport or a new subject, It's not going to be easy. I took up surfing at 60 and I've had to dedicate a fair, one might say, obsessive portion of my life to become a surfer.

414.833 - 434.544 Guy Kawasaki

So you don't just wake up one day and say, I'm going to be a musician forever. And it magically happens. That's the grit phase. And finally, the grace phase is where you decide that it's not about you anymore. It's about making a mark and making the world a better place.

435.644 - 456.184 Guy Kawasaki

and for me when i die i want people to say you know guy empowered me he empowered me with his book with his podcast with his speaking with his investing with his advising so just if members of your audience are used to reading self-help books this is not a self-help book

456.784 - 481.964 Guy Kawasaki

like i think a lot of self-help books you know the whole purpose is to get you to come to my conference right and you know we're gonna be at the miami ritz-carlton and for five thousand dollars in 48 hours i'm gonna teach you how to be remarkable and in the general session you know you the visionary guru you walk out and you get a standing ovation and you tell people oh

482.765 - 509.534 Guy Kawasaki

Say to the person on your right, you're remarkable, and then look to your left and tell that person you're remarkable. And, like, stand up and raise your hands because we're all remarkable. That ain't happening. I'm not that kind of guy, okay? This book is not, you know, the guy's way. This is my analysis of 200 remarkable people. filtered through 40 years of frontline tech experience.

Chapter 3: How did Guy Kawasaki start his career?

536.072 - 566.458 Guy Kawasaki

I mean, holy shit, Heather. On Clubhouse, every conversation was, I'm 25 years old. I've already built up a really successful practice. If you click on the link in my profile, you'll get $200 off my $1,000 course on how to make money in social media. I mean, you know, there's a lot of reasons for the death of, or I don't know if it's dead yet, for the demise of Clubhouse.

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567.239 - 576.37 Guy Kawasaki

But I swear, 90% of the conversations were people talking about how great they were and how you should click on their link for their online conference.

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Chapter 4: How did Guy Kawasaki secure remarkable podcast guests?

1021.13 - 1043.545 Guy Kawasaki

We're going to be in the Bay Area soon. We'd love to get together. So I talked to the person doing my social media with me and I say, isn't this the product you use to create graphics for our tweets? And she said, yes. And I said, well, do you like them? And she said, yes. I said, do you think I should help them? And she said, yes. So I met with them and one thing led to another. And now,

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1044.185 - 1053.718 Guy Kawasaki

you know, thank you God for Canva. And this is my 16th book, which I've said 15 times, this is my last book.

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1055.66 - 1058.064 Heather Monahan

You had no intention of writing a second book?

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1058.835 - 1077.544 Guy Kawasaki

No, my very first book was called The Macintosh Way, and it explained the Macintosh division, what we were trying to do, what we learned from Steve. And at that point, I said, okay, I wrote down everything I possibly can know about That's it. End of writing career.

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1078.284 - 1093.01 Guy Kawasaki

And I guess in a sense, writing 16 books is really very good evidence of a growth mindset because you cannot write 16 books about the same subject.

1094.631 - 1097.012 Heather Monahan

No, you definitely can't. What led you to write the 16th?

1098.22 - 1131.071 Guy Kawasaki

We're going to get real transparent. Let's do it. So there's two theories. One theory is the Polish PR answer. The other theory is more of what's realistic. So I'll give you a smattering of both. At 69 years old, having done this podcast for four years, I really did interview remarkable people. I would put my guest list up against anybody's podcast. NPR, Joe Rogan, anybody.

1131.311 - 1155.222 Guy Kawasaki

I have just as good, if not better, a guest list. And I realized that, man, you know, guy, you have encountered a lot of wisdom, a lot of insights and a lot of value. But let's face it. You know, am I going to tell people, oh, go listen to 200 episodes, one hour each. And you'll you know, you'll hear what I have. And so I figured out that.

1156.022 - 1188.387 Guy Kawasaki

I have all this knowledge and I can filter it down even more. So in a sense, I have this moral obligation to take the lesson of Jane Goodall or Angela Duckworth or Carol Dweck or Stephen Wolfram or was and put it in a package that everybody can digest and use so that they can make a difference and be remarkable. So that's kind of the high road thing. The lower road answer is, you know what?

Chapter 5: What is Guy Kawasaki's view on extraordinary people?

1318.454 - 1346.072 Guy Kawasaki

And in particular, I think it's the creative, innovative, artistic people who use Macintosh because you don't buy a Macintosh to crank Excel spreadsheets. So one day I get this email out of the blue and it's the director of the TEDx Palo Alto. And she says, I have Jane Goodall coming in for a TEDx and I'm looking for a moderator. She's looking for a moderator.

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1346.132 - 1366.842 Guy Kawasaki

She says, you know, you don't know me, guy, but I know you because I use a Macintosh. So would you like to moderate Jane Goodall? On TEDx. It's like, be still my heart. You're telling me I can interview the Jane Goodall for TEDx. Like, pinch me.

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1366.862 - 1370.506 Heather Monahan

Is this a rhetorical question? Yes, I'm all in.

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1371.77 - 1397.121 Guy Kawasaki

Yeah, right. So I canceled a paid speech. Cost me a lot of money. But man, you know, at the end of my life, am I going to say, you know, guy, if you had only made one more speech, you would have been happy. Or are you going to say, I got to interview Jane Goodall? You don't need to be too smart to figure out the answer to that question. So I interview Jane Goodall. We become deep friends.

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1397.321 - 1425.055 Guy Kawasaki

To this day, we're close friends. And so when I start my podcast, she's my first guest. All right. So now, I don't know about you, but the way I select what podcast I agree to be on, the first question is, who else have you had? I mean, if all you have is Joe Blow from Blow Consulting, who wrote the Blow Way podcast, You're probably not going to go on that podcast, right?

1425.075 - 1425.775 Heather Monahan

Probably not.

1426.375 - 1453.279 Guy Kawasaki

You know, so when I'm asking Stacey Abrams or I'm asking Margaret Atwood or Stephen Wolfram or Neil deGrasse Tyson, please come on my podcast. The first thing they ask, maybe they don't ask it, but I know they're thinking it is who the hell else has been on your podcast? To which I say, well, maybe you've heard of some of my guests like Jane Goodall and And guess what?

1453.539 - 1480.375 Guy Kawasaki

Nobody ever says either to me or to themselves, why should I go on his podcast? He has losers like Jane Goodall, people you never heard of. So once you have Jane Goodall, then you get Margaret Atwood. Then you get Woz. Then you get Bob Cialdini. Then you get David Ocker. And guess what? It gets easier and easier. And pretty soon, you are buying. You're not selling.

1482.717 - 1503.287 Heather Monahan

Right. You've got people now that are so attracted to you, you're able to decline and or say yes to whoever. But it started out, like you said, you had to get that big name first. And that came from such a serendipitous moment. Well, I guess not really, because you had already built your name up at Macintosh, at Apple. You were known. That's how you got that door open for you.

Chapter 6: What lessons can be learned from remarkable people?

1761.086 - 1777.892 Guy Kawasaki

This is not the war and peace of self-help, okay? This is more like how to be remarkable for dummies. I mean, I want this to be quick. Part of making a difference and part of being remarkable, you can only read and study so much.

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1778.872 - 1806.336 Heather Monahan

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1842.989 - 1866.012 Heather Monahan

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1866.112 - 1874.26 Heather Monahan

They've gone through difficult times and you're able to apply that back to your life. Can you tell us about some of your favorite stories of people that have overcome adversity?

1874.815 - 1895.329 Guy Kawasaki

I already talked about the guy who had two crack addict parents. I talked about the guy who was in prison for 20-something years. Another woman, and just FYI, if you're a woman listening to this and you're thinking, oh, this is a typical Silicon Valley tech bro. And when you look at my podcast, you're going to say, oh, it's like 90% men and 10% women.

1898.411 - 1913.898 Guy Kawasaki

I hate to disappoint you, but if you look at my podcast, it's probably 60 or 70 percent women and 30 or 40 percent men. It's heavily. I should just name my podcast Remarkable Women, but that's a different discussion.

1914.498 - 1921.421 Heather Monahan

So one of the remarkable women here in the tech world to have any women at all. So thank you for doing that.

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