Greg has made a living for the past two decades in law enforcement, special operations, and Government special operations, deploying to war zones throughout the world. Greg spent eight years as a Louisiana Law Enforcement Officer with the majority of his time in Special Investigation and Narcotics units. He went on to work for Triple Canopy conducting high threat protection for the Department of State in conflict zones. Lapin was then recruited for a Department of Defense program, where he also worked in conflict zones while deployed. He has conducted various missions for both government and non-government clients around the globe. Greg is currently the head instructor for Fieldcraft Survival. Today's Sponsors: Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/CLEAREDHOT
Chapter 1: What are Greg Lappin's experiences in law enforcement?
Good morning, everybody, and welcome back. Episode 370, we are getting up there. Today's episode is with Greg Lappin. How to best describe Greg? Let's say law enforcement background. That could be the pin in the ground where we start.
It branches out into a variety of other things, from government contracting, starting in law enforcement, leaving law enforcement, coming back, starting as a police officer, then working his way into a sheriff, time overseas. Working with other government agencies, working with foreign entities as well, teaching their soldiers and forces as well.
Coming back to the United States, probably most recently recognizable as his role at Fieldcraft Survival. They have a gym, a jiu-jitsu gym in their headquarters down in Provo, which he is the head instructor of. So in addition to all those things, very high level black belt jiu-jitsu instructor. And I think my favorite thing about Greg is that he is just brass tacks honest.
He talks about his experiences openly and honestly. And I don't want to give a spoiler alert, but I am going to warn some people here. We opened up talking about what could be considered a relatively dark subject matter, personal struggles, the highs and lows of life. And we don't even know necessarily how it came up, but talked a little bit in the beginning about the lows and we came back to it.
And again, like I said, he talks about his experiences openly. at a brass tacks on this level. And that can be hard for people to hear or listen to, but I think it's incredibly empowering, not only to the person, but it's powerful for the listener too. And I hope that the listeners understand among listening to Greg talk about his experience and his background, that you're not alone.
And I'm sure he would want that message and sentiment sent out into the world as well. Now, on that note, before we get into it, please join me in this journey for the next 60 to 90 seconds where I pay the bills. Please join me and allow me to talk to you about the sponsor for today's episode that allows me to provide this podcast for free. This episode is brought to you by Montana Knife Company.
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Chapter 2: What challenges did Greg face in his career?
Gun in my mouth and phone ringing, which stopped me.
Who was on the other end of the phone?
A very, very close friend.
How did you get to that point?
Man, it was tricky. So I had come back. I was working as a mentor advisor in the United Arab Emirates for their counterterrorism.
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Chapter 3: How did Greg overcome personal struggles?
What does that even mean? I feel like that means one of two things. You were laundering money or you were their chai boy? Both. Both, actually. Michael, now's a good time to look up chai boy. Yes, yes, yes. Do me a favor, please log out of any account associated with my name.
Go to the dark web, yeah, yeah, yeah. And log in under your account. Andy Stumpf, what is the H.I. boy? It doesn't matter, they got me at this point. Yeah, yeah, you're in trouble. They got us all. Yeah, so no, I was over there working by, with, and through the Emirati counterterrorism special operations guys.
Emirati counterterrorism special operations guys.
Okay. For their Royal Guard and building best practices, building training protocols and not having them shoot balloons off each other's heads. What is wrong with that? I mean, I thought it was awesome. I said, you should put tea glasses, chai tea glasses. That's very James Bond. Instead, right? Whiskey shot on the top of the head. For sure. Exactly. I was like, well, guys, we do apples in the US.
Yeah.
And if you're really good, you'll shoot an ex-president right in the ear.
Exactly, yeah, exactly.
Because it's an insider job.
Just kidding, everybody. But dude, don't even start with that, because now we got the Tesla Cybertruck bombing, who was a Green Beret.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Greg offer on mental health?
So their timing and coordination would have to be Swiss clock.
Yeah, for sure. And that's, I mean, I was here on time. I set my watch to Zulu time. So I wasn't an hour late like some Gregs we know.
That is true. Greg Anderson cannot be on time. What is hilarious is that he started texting me after he crossed the time threshold where his clock flipped an hour 40. He was driving here from, uh, near Seattle. And, uh, he was just like, I'm sweating profusely. My anxiety is crippling. I can't believe I'm like, dude, we're just going to sit down and have a conversation.
But of course I'll never forget that and not hold it over.
Oh, a hundred percent.
No, we're going to use that against you forever, forever as he deserves it. But yeah, it's, uh, I would be surprised if that infrastructure isn't here. Yes. So I guess the question is, what do you do about it?
You know, preparedness, readiness, police involvement, police training, like actually being vigilant. That's the problem. You know, even the New Orleans Bourbon Street. So, obviously, I'm not from there originally, but I spent the last 20 years in New Orleans. I started as a New Orleans cop. In Nolens? Yeah, Nolens. Don't say that. Don't say that. And don't say New Orleans either.
It's New Orleans. Okay. I started as a New Orleans policeman as a young guy in my early mid-20s. Probably never arrested anybody drunk on Bourbon Street. I didn't actually. I didn't do any of that stuff. Believe it or not, I've written two citations in my entire career. One was during FTO, during field training officer phase, because I had to check that block as a rookie.
So they'd leave you alone and let you out on your own.
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Chapter 5: What is the role of jiu-jitsu in law enforcement?
Which is actually, I've been to- Even as kids, dude. I've been to a couple of live hockey games. You want to talk about impressive? Just don't watch any of the hockey. Just stare at their feet. Yeah. Holy cow. Massive. Watch the way the skates- It's unbelievable.
Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah.
And then, hey, let's rip off our jerseys and just start fighting. Just whack, whack.
We're just going to eat them, dude. We're just going to both just eat punches.
It's sometime between thinking about getting my jersey over my head and having it on. I'd be a flat on my back.
I would just eat shit on the skates. It's really impressive when you see a guy do nice like judo hip on or something on someone. Yeah. I love that.
More power to it.
And then the roughs dive in.
How far into these street fights in uniform did you realize you needed to up your grappling game?
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