Chief Change Officer
#207 Athena Brownson vs. Lyme Disease: A Story of Grit and Comebacks — Part Two
Sat, 1 Mar 2025
Athena Brownson was at the top of her real estate game when life handed her a challenge she never saw coming—Lyme disease. What followed was an eight-year rollercoaster of chronic pain, exhausting treatments, and redefining everything she thought she knew about success. In the last episode, she took us through the raw, unfiltered truth of navigating an illness that most people don’t understand. And in Part Two today, we’ll see how she turned this battle into a comeback story.Key Highlights of Our Interview:Retraining the Brain“Pain puts the brain in fight-or-flight mode, and it can get stuck there. So it’s on us to train our minds to tell our bodies we’re okay, to push through and find relief.”The Power of a Routine“For me, routines are huge. My toolkit includes morning and evening rituals – breathwork, meditation, journaling, writing affirmations. I remind myself every day: I am healthy. I am healing. My body can get through this.”The Art of Delegation“Delegation isn’t just about getting things off your plate; it’s about giving others a chance to shine. My illness showed me I can’t do everything, nor should I. Letting go allows others to thrive, and it’s empowering to see them do what they love.”Building My Tribe“Finding the right people was a decade-long journey, but now I have a team around me who would do anything for me. They’re not just coworkers; they’re my support system, my tribe. I know they’re here for me, health and all, and I wouldn’t be where I am without them.”The Power of Pen and Paper“Writing by hand does something special. Seeing the words you put down lets them sink in, letting you visualize and internalize them in a unique way.”______________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Athena Brownson______________________--**Chief Change Officer**--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today. --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.12 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>140,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
Chapter 1: Who is Athena Brownson and why is her story significant?
Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist community for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world. Today, I'm talking to Athena Bronson, a real estate agent from Denver, Colorado. Nope, we are not talking about real estate.
Chapter 2: What challenges did Athena face after being diagnosed with Lyme disease?
Instead, we dive into her extraordinary journey of resilience. At the peak of her real estate career, Feeling invincible and unstoppable, Athena's life took unexpected turn. Strange health issues appeared, and she was eventually diagnosed with Lyme disease, a condition that would change everything. For the past seven years,
Athena has lived in chronic pain, relying on plasma transfusions four days each month just to keep going. Her life has revolved around battling this disease, something she never imagined facing. As she says, if life didn't give us adversity and challenges. This story is too powerful and real for just one episode.
In part one, Athena shares her experience with Lyme disease, a condition that remains poorly understood but has profoundly impacted her health. She'll talk about how she caught it, what she's endured, and the fight to survive. Today in part two, Asina will share how she not only survived, but found ways to thrive, rebuild her support system, and grow her career once again.
I really resonate with what you said about being our biggest advocate, especially in tough times. We hear a lot about IQ and EQ, emotional quotient, emotional intelligence. But there's another measure, adversity quotient or IQ, which seems less talked about yet. So crucial. I think we are all starting to see how important it really is. Your experience is a powerful example of this.
Physical pain is intense and medications might help here and there. maybe make sleep easier. But that's only part of it. It's the mental resilience that really keeps us going, especially in those moments when you are alone, in pain, facing it all. What stands out from what you've just shared is how you found ways to mentally change your focus even on the small things, to help you stay grounded.
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Chapter 3: How did Athena Brownson retrain her brain to cope with chronic pain?
It seems like that's been your best defense and maybe even your offense.
Does that feel accurate? You couldn't say it better. I think that is a beautiful way of putting it. I completely agree. I believe that the mental aspect of it is at least 50% of the challenge.
Our brains are wired in a way that if we continue to think a certain thought, whether that's I'm in pain or I don't want to do this, I don't feel good, I don't want to get out of bed, when we're continually reinforcing those thoughts, we will have those thoughts because when you're in pain, you're in pain and your brain notices that. And unfortunately, that's an unavoidable truth.
But when we pair that with How am I creating new neural pathways? How am I creating positive affirmations in my life? How am I surrounding myself with positivity? What am I ingesting when it comes to what I'm listening to? What information I'm taking in? The people that I'm spending time with. For me, having routines is huge.
Chapter 4: What role do routines play in Athena's recovery and daily life?
So I talk about having your toolkit to get through challenging times, something for me that is really critical for my mental health and thus my physical health, because they do go so hand in hand. is having my morning and evening routines. And that involves doing breath work and meditation. That involves having time to journal and write out my affirmations and write out my goals.
I'm constantly writing out like I am healthy. I am healing my body. My body feels great because I want to tell my brain that I am doing okay.
I want to convince myself that my body can get through this because when I can convince my mind and nervous system that I'm going to be okay and that there's an end goal and I keep my eyes on really looking forward instead of downwards into the current state that I'm in,
That is where we're able to keep, I really believe that you're able to create more healing in the body physically when you're mentally working on strengthening your mentality and
I have many doctors, like my pain doctor, for instance, last week we did a class on breath work and there's been a huge number of studies done that show that when you're in pain and your nervous system is activated and is in fight or flight mode so frequently due to illness or pain, whatever you're going through, It's easy for your brain to get stuck in that pattern.
So it's up to us to make sure that we're doing the work to teach our brains and our nervous system that we're okay and we're going to get through this. And it's a challenge. And like I said, there will be good days, there will be bad days. But I believe that having routines and being able to stay goal oriented in any aspect of your life is absolutely critical for overcoming adversity.
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Chapter 5: How did Athena build a support system to aid her journey?
You've talked about how you help yourself normalize the situation so that life and work could go on. You kept earning, kept things moving, especially with those high medical costs. Even with insurance, it still adds up. But beyond that, you mentioned the importance of building a support system with mentors, coaches, and others, which I think is crucial.
Can you share more about how you started building that from scratch and how you went about finding the right people, those who really became the perfect fit for your journey? Eventually, it seems like it grew into a really strong support system. One that not only provided you the help you needed, but also gave you a true sense of community.
I love this, yes. So I firmly believe that I would not be where I am today in business, in life, in anything without the people that I am surrounded by. And as an only child and a professional skier, I was a one-man sport, a one-person activity all the time. Being an only child, I didn't have siblings to delegate or... really understand how delegation works.
So for me, building out the right team was something that I continued to work on was a huge challenge for me because I was a athlete that believed that I could get everything done myself, that it was my job to make sure that I did everything perfectly. The truth of the matter is there is absolutely no way of getting through
any of anything in life by yourself, let alone a real estate career, which is extremely taxing. I would say there was you could work 24 hours a day and still have a 24 hour to do list easily. And then taken me a lot of coaching, a lot of surrounding myself with people that have taught me really the art of delegation and the art of
understanding that we are not going to always be the best at everything. We need to know what our strengths are and what our weaknesses are because we all have strengths and we should be focusing on those. Our strengths might be someone else's weaknesses or their strengths are weaknesses. So by assessing strengths, really who we are, what we're good at, what we're not good at.
And for me, coaching has always been really important because as an athlete, I learned that a discipline and accountability but having someone that can look over your business or your life whatever it is that you're doing and help you see where your blind spots are help you understand and build the path that you want to be on and understand what your strengths are that you should be focusing on
You have to understand that about yourself before you can attract or bring in the right people around you. So for me, coaching was absolutely paramount and it continues to be. And I continue to learn how to delegate because I still have a tendency to want to get everything done by myself. But illness has taught me that I don't have the physical stamina to do everything.
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Chapter 6: Why is delegation important in Athena's career and personal growth?
And nor should I, because there are people around me that are much better at certain activities than I am. So for me to be trying to do those activities is actually robbing them of the opportunity to really thrive at something that they love. So it's taken me a good decade, I would say, to build a team of people that are
I look around me and I know that the people on my team would absolutely do anything for me. They want nothing more than for me to get my health back and they support me unconditionally through my treatments and they take amazing care of our clients. Honestly, my executive assistant, I like to call her my boss because Her skill set is so vast and incredible and the complete opposite of mine.
I wouldn't be able to get any of this, anything done without her, honestly. So understanding that we're not meant to do life alone. We're meant to do life in community. Whatever that may be, whether it's at work or outside of work, for me, my business has become my family. It is a very demanding business. Real estate is to perform at a high level. We work very hard.
But the most important thing that I've learned, and I had to learn and continue to learn the hard way through not having the physical ability to do everything, is understanding that we're not supposed to be able to do it all ourselves.
And when we can find like-minded individuals that have similar visions in terms of why they're doing business and what motivates them and really find the people, I like to call them like your tribe. Who are the people that have your back unconditionally, that care just as much as you do about the business or about your clients or whatever it may be as you do?
And it's taken me years and years to find those people. But now that I have, it's truly the only reason that I'm able to continue forward with having a really successful business. is because I have people around me that not only care about me and my health and making sure that I'm able to take care of myself.
If I'm not able to get out of bed one day, I know that these people have my back and that they're going to take just as good of care of our clients. They want to build relationships. They put heart into everything that they do. And I honestly don't know what I would do without my amazing team.
But it's taken years and years of coaching and therapy and mentors to help me understand that I can't do it all by myself. And I need to, delegation is actually giving someone the opportunity to be their best and to empower them. And I will continue to learn how to do it, but I believe in teamwork more than anything.
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Chapter 7: How has Athena's illness influenced her perspective on teamwork and community?
You shared so much today about building a support system, rewiring your mindset, and finding ways to move forward is incredibly helpful. For those out there who might be in the middle of a live transition, just like you were, if you don't have a support system yet, there's still feelings stuck. And they are struggling with that rewiring process. What would you say to them?
What advice or encouragement would you offer to help them take that next step towards doing better, especially after listening to this episode?
Yeah, and that's what I would love nothing more is to be able to give people hope in whatever challenge or adversity that you're going through. But I would first say it's okay. It's okay to acknowledge when you're struggling. When you're going through hardship, there is somewhat of a toxic positivity that people can say, oh, just don't think about it. Like, you'll be fine.
No, it's acknowledged that you're going through a significant challenge. But don't allow yourself to get stuck there. And oftentimes I believe that we have a thought, a vision that we have to make all of these changes at one time.
That all of a sudden we're supposed to have a completely new mindset and we're supposed to be able to have the ability to rewire our brains and we're not supposed to hurt and Everything seems like it's supposed to all happen at once. But what I've learned is the key is to take baby steps. Every single day, if we can focus.
One of my favorite books, Atomic Habits, talks about if we focus on being 1% better every day. then imagine how much that will accumulate over a year. If you're looking to get healthier, start by walking five minutes outside and then try six and then try 10.
and that break everything into smaller steps if you're looking to you know create routines in your life for example a morning routine start with two things that you're gonna consistently do every day and commit to them and for me i have to keep myself accountable by actually like printing out
my my must do's and checking them off every day because if i don't keep if i don't do that i won't hold myself accountable to doing the the things that i have to do to stay in a positive mindset or in a healthier place so find what small items in your life activities that you can implement and that you can commit to implementing that are going to be small at first.
But over time, those small changes that you hold yourself accountable to are going to add up to being completely life changing changes. And before you know it, the amount that the amount of growth and change and development that you can
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