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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Sun, 02 Mar 2025
After whistleblower Dr. Mark Moyar exposed corruption inside USAID, he says he was falsely accused of revealing classified information and FIRED. Bloomberg recently reported on documents that show “USAID probed allegations of bribery, child labor, and se*ual abuse of children at humanitarian organizations it funds” and says “the reports are damning.” Dr. Mark Moyar is the William P. Harris Chair of Military History at Hillsdale College and directs its Center for Military History and Strategy. He served as Director of Civilian-Military Cooperation at USAID from 2018-2019 and previously led the Project on Military and Diplomatic History at CSIS. He earned a B.A. summa cum laude from Harvard and a Ph.D. from Cambridge. His latest book is Masters of Corruption (2024). More at https://x.com/markmoyar Iyah May is an Australian pop singer and MD who grew up in a remote rainforest village in Far North Queensland, raised by her mother and older sisters. Her music career began as a medical student in New York, where a serendipitous encounter led her to perform at rapper Shaggy’s home while researching HIV. Her hit song Karmageddon went viral and amassed millions of views on YouTube and X. Find more at https://x.com/iyahmaymusic and https://iyahmay.com 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is Dr. Mark Moyar and what did he expose?
All right, we are going to have Mark Moyer here in just a second. He's the William P. Harris Chair of Military History at Hillsdale College. He has a summa cum laude BA from Harvard and a PhD from Cambridge. His latest book is Masters of Corruption. You can follow him on X at Mark Moyer, M-O-Y-A-R.
And I believe we're going to be visited by Aya May, an Australian pop star and physician who grew up in far north Queensland. She had a serendipitous encounter, performed a rap song that got to be viral. And so we're going to talk to her about that. But first, we're going to be talking to Mark about the fact that he was exposing corruption inside the, guess what, NSAID.
Then became falsely accused of revealing classified information, was fired. Big story there. We're going to get to it right after this. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f***'s sake.
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Chapter 2: What corruption did Dr. Moyar uncover at USAID?
Yeah, the book tells the story up until about the beginning of 2024 when I'd originally hoped to have the book out earlier and the case closed. But part of the nature of this whistleblower retaliation is that they try to string you out because the government has all the lawyers and the money in the world and they know that you don't. And so they hope to drag it out.
So, but again, it's been in court for three years. We spent two years trying to get the inspector general to help us. And that's another huge part of the problem. The inspector general at this agency, like so many other agencies, is part of the problem. And they're in cahoots with a lot of these bad, corrupt actors.
Did you help direct, say, Elon Musk's or the current administration's attention to the USAID? And if so, if you had anything to do with that, are you going to direct them towards the inspector general's office?
Well, they asked me to serve in this new Trump administration, and I really wanted to do so, but we have a child with cancer. severe health problems. And for personal reasons, I couldn't do it. But the book has been made available to a lot of the people who are making decisions. And so I do think that the Inspector General, the Office of Security is another one.
I talk in the book as well, the Office of Security, which has all sorts of important functions. They're part of the problem too. And so what happened was As soon as Trump took office, they went to the Office of Security and said, give us your files, and they refused to turn them over. So that's when they started putting people on leave.
And so aid has become something of a testbed for what they're doing.
That has or USAID has? Or is that USAID? Is it all the same?
Yeah, USAID and the problems they've encountered. I mean, I think they first went there because they knew how bad it was. And some of that is documented in the book. And so, you know, also foreign aid is very controversial. So they went there and quickly encountered this resistance, which then made it all the easier for them to justify these crackdowns.
So what happened to us? What's your theory about, is this just the nature of bureaucracies when they get out of hand? Is this a technocracy that has taken over like it has in EU? Is this just bad people have gotten into our government? How do we understand what happened here?
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Chapter 3: What was the fallout from Dr. Moyar's whistleblowing?
He has been advancing our understanding of COVID vaccine injury syndromes and the origin of 85N1 bird flu. We're going to talk a little bird flu tomorrow, too. Yeah, bird flu. God knows that is overstated. There was just a New England Journal article that came out while we were on the air here.
I sent it to my email, I'm going to read it tonight, what the academic institutions are thinking about this. My glance through the article seemed to suggest that all they're concerned about is animal transmission, and they don't really have any significant concerns about humans, but we'll see about that. And there's all our guests coming up. Gary Sinise is kind of a cool add-on on March 19th.
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