Dr. Mark Moyar
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
at the big universities that give you tenure and so spent some time working in military institutions and think tanks and then when the trump administration came in they were looking for somebody with my skill set which involves some of it involves getting the civilian and military institutions to cooperate. And so I became the head of the Office of Civilian Military Cooperation.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
After they fired me, I ended up going back into academia. I'm now teaching at Hillsdale College, which is a great place to be and one of the few places that still rewards the serious teaching of military history and other forms of history.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
I know him not well, but he had endorsed one of my earlier books, which I wrote about President Obama's feckless policies. And I first met him because he was an advocate for veterans in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and was, I think very rightly, calling out a lot of the terrible policies we saw out of Barack Obama. And now more recently, he's been calling out the crazy DEI policies
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
initiatives that took hold in the biden era and and that clearly will be one of his top priorities but he's also looking at refocusing in the military on fighting and not doing a lot of these silly things that it's been doing for the last four years and speaking of dei i'm reading that you was it you let me make sure this is true uh had some sort of perp walk you had to do as a female
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Privilege Walk, yes. Yes, this was another shock to me because I came in in February 2018. So this is more than a year into the Trump administration. And they are still putting people through this DEI training. The way that Privilege Walk worked is
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
is you're given an identity so you have to play somebody else's role so i was a woman of scandinavian descent and then i had to answer the questions or react to them as if i was that person and you had you know a male french development official and you had a woman with unwanted child and a male prostitute and things like that and you all stand in a line and they read you a statement
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And depending on who you are, you either step forward or you step back. And questions like, do people make negative stereotypes about you? Or does the president of the country look like you? And so at the end, the white guy is furthest forward, and me being the white female, I was second. And then there's various degrees of separation between people further back.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And so it's a long-used left-wing propaganda tool to try to show that everything is about privilege and that's why some people get ahead better than others. And that's, of course, used to push government socialist policies that will supposedly eliminate these privileges because we know it's not anything you've actually done that might get you ahead in life. It's the privileges you have.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, and of course it also ignores, largely ignores class privileges if every white male works on Wall Street and drives a Porsche and everyone else is impoverished and cursed. No, that's untrue. And obviously, this is one of the big reasons Donald Trump got elected, because Americans saw through this sort of political correct DEI ideology.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And especially the working class realized that, in fact, people are disadvantaged for lots of different reasons, most of which are not covered by DEI.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, that's an excellent question. I think the closest parallel we have really is Andrew Jackson. And it's fascinating. We teach an American history course here at Hillsdale, and we have students read Andrew Jackson. And one of the things Jackson talks a lot about is how the bureaucracy, career government officials become corrupt. They become self-serving.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And so he wanted to limit the amount of time they could serve. And so I think that's a point we've now returned to. It's not the only one. And obviously, government's much bigger now than it was in his day. But some of these problems are new. People have pointed out even Bill Clinton, when he came in 1993, recognized that you had bloated government and he cut hundreds of thousands.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
of jobs and so the idea that it's fundamentally new is is i think largely mistaken i mean i do think you have very high level of distrust in the government but that's against something we've we've seen before i do think it's going to be a challenge to try to bring americans together in the the biden administration i think also the obama administrations were among the most divisive And you...
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Americans are now divided against each other. And then you have, when Trump comes in, the people who were doing sort of the most dividing now are crying foul and things are getting worse.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
So I do think we will need some period at some point where people will get along better and we don't have this phenomenon we have where people don't want to be friends with other people simply because they belong to the wrong political party.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, I think it's going to be tough. And I think the left, to a large degree, has kind of invited this on themselves because they've been, and when they've been in power, they have really been the ones, I think, who have tried to make politics the center of everything and to assume they know all and therefore anybody else must be evil in some way who doesn't.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And that has created great support for Donald Trump because he's been willing to push back on that. And you've got lots of other people now feel aggrieved because they have been the victim of this left-wing intolerance.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, certainly you can see a lot of the Wilsonian concepts that basically you need this expertise, bureaucratic expertise, and they're going to solve everything because, of course, experts are very smart and they don't have any biases, which of course has been disproven time and again. I think one thing that could help move us past is if we move ahead with this
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
sharp paring down of government, I do think what you're going to see is that most of what government does will still work. Now, I think people right now are worried that they're cutting so much that it's going to destroy things. But I can tell you, I was...
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
at usa during a shutdown when most of the employees were not allowed to work and a lot of the you know stuff most important stuff was still getting done and uh you know i said there's good people in government there's a lot of people who aren't pulling their weight and so you know i think if americans see that in fact we can save a bunch of money by you know removing it shrinking the workforce and i think also dealing with other forms of corruption i think you know entitlement
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
corruption is a huge problem too that should save us huge amounts of money. I think that maybe will get us back to a place where there's more consensus.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Well, the most popular program with Congress is what's called PEPFAR. And that is a program to give drugs to people in poor countries to keep them from dying of AIDS. And so that has actually been granted. The Trump administration has, I think, generally been okay with that. And so that program I think is likely to continue. There are some things that are actually very much in our interests.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
When we have health programs that will help us identify diseases in foreign countries before they come over here, or we have programs that will help us detect whether people are trying to come here illegally. And also when we're trying to
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, one thing to keep in mind is that this country was created in a way to restrict the authority of anyone, and that includes the president. So the things the White House is trying to do now are running into opposition from both Congress and the courts. And I think inherently there is value to that. I think...
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
We don't want to allow one person to do everything they want because we may sympathize with that person now, but tomorrow it could be somebody with very different motives. So I think that is going to put some serious constraints. I will say, actually, I've been surprised at how fast they've been able to move, especially with Doge. I think they...
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Probably figured they would try to get a lot of this done before Congress and the courts could even react. And they have done a lot.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
But I think we're going to see in the next at least year and probably more that you're going to have courts and Congress battling with the executive branch over these things like getting rid of bureaucrats, whether the executive branch can just refuse to spend money that Congress has authorized.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, I don't think there's probably anything that would be unfixable. I do think there'll be some short-term pain that... may be unnecessary. Whether you can avoid that, I'm not sure. But there's companies... You can't.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, and hopefully they will be able to, I think, Well, we've already seen some of the funding get restored. When you cut off massive amounts of funding to all sorts of people, there are going to be some people who get hurt along the way. I'm not sure how long that will last. Hopefully, the people who get...
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
laid off will find private sector employment or maybe then get hired back as at-will employees. But I mean, it has been the reality for a long time that if you're the kind of person who doesn't want to work hard, maybe the government's the kind of place you go. And so when you're now thrown out in the streets, it may be hard for some of these people to find gainful employment.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, I still think getting back through and examining all of the bad things that have been going on in the past decade, there's a lot to be done. There's a new story that has just come out about things that were happening in 2015 in the FBI and this honeypot operation to entrap people in the Trump administration. And there's so much of that that still hasn't been discovered.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And as I said, USAID, there's, I think, lots of stuff because I've found most of the time when people report corruption, it gets swept under the rug. And so I'm hoping that people will have now the time to go in and really dig in and find out what's been going on.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Well, we are commemorating the 50th anniversary of the end of the Vietnam War. We've got several big events going on this year, and I'm still right now working on the last of what's a three-volume trilogy of the Vietnam War, which I think has been one of the most misunderstood and politicized events in American history.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
I argue the two fundamental points is I agree, I argue that for one thing, there was actually a good reason to be in Vietnam, which is not what you most usually hear from the left, and that Actually, the war could have been won. Now, most Vietnam veterans, I think, would agree in general with me. But in our intelligentsia, those views are out of fashion.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And so I've spent a good deal of my career doing in-depth research. I wrote a book called Triumph Forsaken, another one called Triumph Regained, working on the last one now to really disprove a lot of this left-wing conventional wisdom.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
No, I have not talked with him. I've been able to talk with quite a few other veterans, although unfortunately now a lot of them are passing on.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Dr. Drew said the best way to quit drinking is by going cold turkey, and he's a doctor, so why would you question doctors? Dr. Drew called me unfixable.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
I couldn't just- No, you have to fry it.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Hey, it's great to be with you, Dr. Drew.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, I joined USAID as a Trump appointee in 2018. And I, for several months, was just an advisor there. And then I was put in charge of an office later that year. And as soon as I was given that job, I was inundated by complaints from people within the office about all sorts of misbehavior. And some of this was just bad management, toxic leadership. But some of it was criminal corruption.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Oh, I wish.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And the most egregious case that I came across was that my own deputy in the office was the chairman of the board of a company that was getting federal contracts. At the same time, he was a government employee and helping that company get contracts through his job, which is a flagrant violation of conflict of interest.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Buster Rhymes?
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Sounds Caribbean, Sean Kingston.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
YouTube, 500 people on YouTube will see it.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yes, it's usually a little more indirect. Or you have your son, Hunter, do it.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Tell him Shaggy's still relevant. This other guy's not anyway.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Marley's son?
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
No, he's cool. I sat on a plane with him.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah. I mean, and part of it was that how brazen it was, as you said, you didn't even bother using a family cutout, which is how this often happens. And this person had even gotten permission from government lawyers to do this, which was indication of how corrupt some of these government lawyers were. And so I went to agency officials who were supposed to deal with this kind of thing.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And I said, look, I'm new here, but my employees are telling me all this stuff and it sounds pretty serious. And they said, well, you know, it's commendable that you want to raise this issue. But in reality, most people don't bring these sorts of things up. And they didn't really explain why. And I later found out why. It's because you become the target when you do that.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
But, you know, I said, you know, I came here to drain the swamp. And so we're going to do we should do an investigation. So investigation goes ahead. And things unfold a bit slowly, but to make a long story short, they ended up allowing this corrupt individual to keep his federal job by going to the Department of Defense, where he still works. This is part of their usual shell game they can play.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
reassign you somewhere to be punishment in the meantime they made this fraudulent accusation against me and then violated my due process rights to get me fired and i've been fighting ever since i'm still in court five years later trying to get this sorted out and is the new administration i get in the book is is chronicling this is that correct
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, the book tells the story up until about the beginning of 2024 when I'd originally hoped to have the book out earlier and the case closed. But part of the nature of this whistleblower retaliation is that they try to string you out because the government has all the lawyers and the money in the world and they know that you don't. And so they hope to drag it out.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
So, but again, it's been in court for three years. We spent two years trying to get the inspector general to help us. And that's another huge part of the problem. The inspector general at this agency, like so many other agencies, is part of the problem. And they're in cahoots with a lot of these bad, corrupt actors.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Well, they asked me to serve in this new Trump administration, and I really wanted to do so, but we have a child with cancer. severe health problems. And for personal reasons, I couldn't do it. But the book has been made available to a lot of the people who are making decisions. And so I do think that the Inspector General, the Office of Security is another one.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
I talk in the book as well, the Office of Security, which has all sorts of important functions. They're part of the problem too. And so what happened was As soon as Trump took office, they went to the Office of Security and said, give us your files, and they refused to turn them over. So that's when they started putting people on leave.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And so aid has become something of a testbed for what they're doing.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, USAID and the problems they've encountered. I mean, I think they first went there because they knew how bad it was. And some of that is documented in the book. And so, you know, also foreign aid is very controversial. So they went there and quickly encountered this resistance, which then made it all the easier for them to justify these crackdowns.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
You know, I think it's a combination of factors. I mean, part of it is bureaucracy inherently is prone to becoming self-absorbed and self-serving. And you can go back in our history and you see that. You also have, I think in this case, a lot of the bureaucrats, well, it is a bureaucratic issue. ideological echo chamber.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
I think 97% of the employees were Democrats, and so they reinforced their ideological bias, and then a lot of them bought into these ideas that somehow this was the end of democracy, and this was, you know, the fascists were coming in. So therefore, we can do anything we want, basically. The ends justify the means. And then I think also, too, you have broader ethical problems because our...
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
bureaucracy, like much of the ruling class, is very secular. They don't have the same sort of sense of religious, moral obligations, I think, that your average American does.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yes, well, certainly you've got to find some new blood to take over the leadership. And that was a part of the problem too in the first Trump administration is they didn't actually select some of the political appointees carefully enough. And so, as you said, you do have to purge some of the bad apples, but you've got to find good people to go in there.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
I think what they're also looking at is converting a lot of these jobs into at-will employees because most of the agency's employees were unionized, and so it was almost impossible to fire them. And so if you can change that, I think it won't come as a surprise to most people. If you look at teachers' unions, you have the same issue.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
When you can't fire people, you're not going to get good performance out of a lot of people.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Well, it looks like functions will probably be moved into the State Department. And so I think you'll certainly see some of the functions continue. And Congress has appropriated money. And this is going to be a fight that's coming soon in terms of how much... The executive branch has to say, Congress, we're not going to spend the money you told us to spend.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
But I think certainly they're going to have to spend some of it. So they're going to have to find different ways, different people. But again, it looks like the most likely outcome is that it becomes part of the State Department.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, well, that came out. It didn't get as much attention at the time, because up until this year, USAID was not getting a lot of attention. But this story dates back a couple years, and what happened was that you had... USA Career employees making threats about bombing pregnancy centers and churches, basically radical anti or pro-abortion activists.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And so this was reported to the Office of Security and the Office of Inspector General, the two people I actually, two offices that I tried to get help from. But both of those offices turned a blind eye to this. And so we see that there's this strong ideological bias within these institutions, which are, again, these are the people who are supposed to be safeguarding ethics.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And instead, they're punishing whistleblowers and they're turning a blind eye when people are talking about blowing up churches.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, that's right.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yes, well, and, you know, of course, they will try to tell you. Now, I will say, having worked there, there are some people who kind of check their ideology at the door and do what they're told. But there were too many cases in the first Trump term where these bureaucrats surreptitiously are infusing their political beliefs.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And they are convinced that they know better than Trump and the people who voted for him. Yeah. So that's why you think I think you see this reaction in the second Trump term. I think first Trump term, they were slow to pick up on this and it wasn't until 2020. They started to do some things, but now they've clearly realized that the bureaucracy is fundamentally in many ways trying to stop them.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
And so they're figuring out how to change things.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yeah, that's right. And there are cases, if you have really strong political appointees, you can get them under control. That was part of the problem we had at our agency was some of these political appointees, they were there for themselves. They were going to pad their resumes and move on. And the bureaucrats were very good at manipulating them because they would say,
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
oh, you know, you are the most brilliant person I've ever met. You're doing such a great job here. And so then they would just let the bureaucrats do what they wanted. And the bureaucrats then go and surreptitiously are pushing their agenda and moving money. I mean, they're very good at saying one thing while doing another.
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USAID Whistleblower: I Was Fired For Exposing “Corrupt Money Pit” w/ Dr. Mark Moyar & Iyah May (Pop Singer of Karmageddon & Real Life MD) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 460
Yes. Well, I got a PhD in military and diplomatic history, wrote several books on the Vietnam War. And unfortunately, in American academia, military history has gone out of fashion. Being a conservative white male is also very out of fashion. It's a combination of those things mean you don't get hired regularly.