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Ex-Mafia Capo Michael Franzese: The REAL Gangsters Are Running Our Government – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 464
Sun, 09 Mar 2025
Michael Franzese was once a powerful mafia boss, leading a crew of 300 men and raking in millions each week. After a prison sentence, he turned his life around – and now says the real gangsters are the people running our government. Michael Franzese is a former caporegime leader of the New York Colombo Crime Family, where he was a prominent “made member” known as “The Prince of the Mafia.” The son of a crime family underboss, he now hosts the Michael Franzese Show on Rumble and is a motivational speaker. Find more at https://michaelfranzese.com and https://x.com/MichaelFranzese 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is Michael Franzese?
Delighted to welcome into the studio today, Michael Franzese. He is a former mob boss from New York, Colombo crime family, prominent leader known as the Prince. Oh, there he is. You're gonna see that he is here with me today. I thought it was gonna be a surprise after we got the show really going. He now hosts the Michael Franzese Show on Rumble. I've been a guest on there.
He's also a motivational speaker. Guess what? He found a way out of prison. He's transformed his life. He's now a winemaker. I'll tell you about that in a minute. And you can follow him on Michael Franzese, F-R-A-N-Z-E-S-E. I spelled that right? Franzese.com. And Michael Franzese on X and Michael Franzese.com. And I will tell you all about, well, I think I have a second talk about the wine.
The website is franziswine.com. Very popular alcoholic and non-alcoholic wine that is getting great traction. He'll tell us about that. And we will talk about this, how our country has become a familiar way of doing business to him. Talk about that right after this. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre. A psychopath started this.
He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for five months. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time.
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As I said, Michael Franzese's show on Rumble. Check it out. Sign up. Follow him on X, Michael Franzese, F-R-A-N-Z-E-E, F-R-A-N-Z-E-S-E, and MichaelFranzese.com, and FranzeseWine.com. I'll hear all about how this all happened, but why don't we explain, and I want to get deep into the book. Where's my camera? Is that my camera there? Mafia Democracy, which is something that's been...
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Chapter 2: What is Michael's perspective on the current state of the government?
Oh, my God.
Absolutely. I mean, it can't explain where this money came from. There was no service that was performed. No. It was just money coming into the accounts, exactly what we did, you know, the same way. And that's why I said it's a RICO indictment. Whether he's found guilty or not, that's another thing. You know, innocent until proven guilty. But there's definitely enough there for an indictment.
And he had more because he had text messages. He had emails. He had whistleblowers. He had phone calls. There was so much evidence to indict him under the RICO statute.
How does the shell company work?
Well, all you need the shell company for is to open up a bank account. It does nothing else.
You have to have a... Did you incorporate in Delaware or something?
Yeah, we incorporated in Panama because it was hard to trace. And at that time, to own a Panamanian company that had bearish stock, you didn't even have to have a name on it. Whoever held the stock owned the company.
I'm just thinking, wouldn't it be as simple as, okay, Jill Biden, you've got three shell accounts in your name. Show us the minutes, the quarterly minutes from your corporation.
100%. You think they're going to be quarterly minutes? Not only that, explain the suspicious bank records. Where did this money come from? What were you paid for? What was the service? What was the product? There is none. There's not. Not for 20 some odd million dollars.
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Chapter 3: How did Michael Franzese get involved in organized crime?
Yeah, because I wrote down the word. Where did I write it? I'm sure I wrote it down here. Somewhere I wrote honest. Here it is, honest. Honest and fear I wrote. And it's hard to continue to be the person that you say you are and you want to be. if you're not rigorously honest. Now, remember, lying is, there's such a thing as lying with justification. And it's not really lying.
And it's, you know, you have to acknowledge to yourself and somebody that you're lying and you're doing it for a reason. And that reason is where you can get into trouble, right? If you're doing it to save somebody's life, if you're lying so you can kill Hitler, well, guess what? Lying is totally appropriate. But where do you draw the line is the hard part.
Yeah, and he said, because if you're lying to help somebody, in essence, you're hurting them. Because maybe they should have.
Boy, that's a pretty pure way of looking at it.
Yeah, they should have paid the price or they should have been exposed. And I said, Jordan, I can't go for that.
It's an interesting question, and it gets deep fast, but I deal with a lot of people with drug addiction, that kind of thing, and they have to be rigorously honest or they immediately launch on a course that'll take them back to drugs and alcohol.
So I don't know how they solve those problems because they certainly can't trust themselves, the way their brain works, to decide when lying is good or bad because the addiction part of the brain will go, this is a good time to lie. This is it. You're right. This is when lying is justified. And that's how they get into real trouble. So they have to be rigorously honest all the time, come what may.
And I totally agree with that, having dealt with drug addicts for a good part of my life. I will say this. People say, are you really a different person? And, you know, I don't live in a pattern of bad things anymore. Because you can't be a Christian and live in a pattern of sin, so to speak. You can't do that. But, you know, you get the same thoughts. You know, you don't act on them anymore.
You know, and that's what's happening. Because, you know, the Bible says you're a new creation. And I guess you are because you're not doing the things that you might have done before. But it's not that you don't have those thoughts, if you understand what I'm saying. Kind of, yeah.
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