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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447
Mon, 20 Jan 2025
Only weeks ago, pundits were still pushing for CA Governor Gavin Newsom to run for President in 2028. Those hopes were turned to ash alongside the homes and businesses that were destroyed in the recent (and still ongoing) SoCal wildfires – which is only the latest example of California’s misplaced priorities and lack of competent governance. Dave Rubin is the host of The Rubin Report and the author of “Don’t Burn This Book: Thinking for Yourself in an Age of Unreason”. Follow Dave at https://x.com/RubinReport and https://Rumble.com/RubinReport 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the implications of Gavin Newsom's leadership?
welcome everyone the great dave rubin joins us today you can find him on rumble at rubin report x rubin report uh let's see uh locals don't forget about locals as well and his book don't burn this book uh the burning of the book has uh multiple layers of meaning now uh there it is uh in the sense that books are being burned electronically all over the place all the last four years certainly and uh
President Biden in his outgoing speech last night emphasized the importance of burning books, essentially what he was saying. And burning has a new meaning in this part of the world. And Dave Rubin's house is now worth more because of Gavin Newsom's extraordinary, extraordinary leadership skills. We'll talk about that and more right after this.
Our laws, as it pertains to substances, are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f***'s sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician.
I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want help stopping, I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. We are going to get right to it today.
Let's bring in the one and only Dave Rubin from The Rubin Report. Dave, welcome. I trust all is well in the great state of Florida.
All is well in the great state of Florida. And yes, it is true. My house is worth more today than even a week ago because everybody from your fair state of California, if they weren't all coming here already, they're really all coming here now. I mean, joking aside, I spoke to my real estate agent just yesterday, and he said he's basically been on a 72-hour nonstop
phone binge because everybody is now trying to get out. They've just had it. You can't blame them. Drew, my second book was Don't Burn This Country. The first one was Don't Burn This Book. The second one was Don't Burn This Country, which I'm now realizing I didn't mean it literally, everybody. It was supposed to be a metaphor, and yet here we are.
I want to jump off that to talk about President Biden's speech last night. I don't know if you heard it. I did. He whisper yelled through the entire speech. There's a name for that medically. Parkinsonian patients get this hypophonia. He had no nuance. He had a little more facial expression than usual, which suggests he's on some medication to help him with that, which he should be.
I mean, he should be. He's got severe Parkinsonism. But it was astonishing to hear these same things, these essentially colorblind issues like essentially electronically burning books.
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Chapter 2: How is the media's portrayal of Joe Biden affecting public perception?
Well, I imagine it's not him and it's the people around him that's been doing all this in the first place. Yeah, and the image that will remain always in my head was equally as bungled was this, that speech he gave in front of essentially what looked like a World War II Nazi film in color with the red lights behind him.
It was just astonishing. It was the Palpatine speech, yeah.
Yes, it was astonishing. How terrible. I mean, what are they thinking? But okay, so we moved on through that. One of the most viral moments I've ever had was on your show where I said, I was in Florida and I said, you know, I don't know what's true anymore. I certainly can't trust anything in the media. And that has, that is... so clear to me now. It's just, it's not even a question.
And last night was no exception to that. The news media jumped in and said, oh my God, genius, genius. Oh, it's so emotional. So full of vim and vigor. I was like, oh my God, who are they? And that was hard for me to watch too. But again, the media has really, it's over. There's nothing that goes on in the media that I think, oh, that's interesting. Nothing.
Nothing that is said that I believe that is being broadcast now.
Yeah, and I actually don't think you're being hyperbolic when you say that. If you were to turn on CNN for an hour, I actually believe this. It would be more congruent with the truth if you just reversed everything they said. It would probably get you closer to what actually is happening rather than what they're presenting. It's unbelievable that they went this deep.
And the funny thing is, we've discussed this before, I have always said... The American people, because we're a largely successful country, because we don't have sectarian strife, we don't have all the craziness that so much of the world has, we're distracted with a lot of things. And we have iPhones and we have video games and whatever else people want to do. The media...
all they had to do was not be abjectly horrible. They didn't need to be 100% horrible, and we would have swallowed it. Look how long we swallowed. Look, Drew, you're one of the brightest guys I know. I admired you way before I even knew you as a human. The fact that it took you as long as it did to wake up and that you're willing to talk about it is why it went so viral, right?
People appreciate that kind of mea culpa or moment that they realize that, that someone realizes, boy, maybe I didn't see things with the clearest glasses or whatever it might be. But all they had to do was not be completely horrible. And yet they still remain completely horrible. I saw some of the same videos you're talking about.
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Chapter 3: What is the state of California's governance amid disasters?
The great potato famine of 2024. So did you see that Trump is suggesting Vivek for the Senate seat, J.D. Vance Senate seat in Ohio?
I did see that. I saw it this morning. Does not surprise me. You know, there's been something interesting going on with Vivek because after that H-1B visa thing, which happened, you know, right around Christmas, I think he's only tweeted twice since then.
So I don't know if there was some internal... I don't know if there was some internal fighting or there was a smackdown or maybe they decided let Elon take Doge, you know, Department of Government Efficiency and you do something else. But look, Vivek...
I had my frustrations with him during the primary process because, as you know, I was a DeSantis guy and I thought there were some unfair gripes there. That's just plain politics. It's all good. I've sat down with him in this very room since then and we're good. I think he would make a fine senator. I mean, I think the guy is able to communicate the issues that exist
in an extremely competent and effective way. I think his youth and his experience and everything else, it just adds to if you want people in the Senate that not only understand the issues right, but can communicate them properly. It's one of the reasons that I'm so bullish on Pete Hegseth. It's because not only does he have a good pedigree,
As a TV presenter for the last 10 plus years, the guy knows how to communicate this stuff. And look at the people that we have had to put up with. Not only the incompetent people, but people who can't explain anything. You see what happens with Corinne Jean-Pierre when she doesn't have notes in front of her. Or Joe Biden, even with the teleprompter.
So I'm ready for not only people that are qualified, but people that can actually level with the American people and speak to them off script. I mean, look, that's what's driven Trump this entire time. What has it been? Has it been pure policy? No, it's been his ability to say what he's thinking. And whether you agree with it all or not, you know that he believes it.
And that was a hell of a lot better than the alternative.
How about Pam Bondi? My God, what a performance in the face of this screeching.
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Chapter 4: Why are people leaving California for Florida?
I needed some treatment of some stuff I was having medically. It was no big deal. But the point is, Newsom is still with us. The state is... The one thing this state, this city does not have is governance. Our roads don't work. Our trash doesn't work. Our water power doesn't work. Our poor firemen can't do their job. Our police is down.
The homeless and criminals are... It's like something out of the Joker, the original Joker at Batman series. And then the government who are... just doing this horrible job, are blaming one another, everybody else, anything but me. It's astonishing to see. What are your thoughts from a distance there? And you've been here for many years as well.
Well, the only thing that I disagree with is that it's astonishing to see, because I think this is exactly what Gavin Newsom has wrought for his entire career.
Let's not forget, this was a guy, there's a video that anyone can see, you've probably played it on the show, back in 2008 as mayor of San Francisco, saying that he had a 10-year plan to end the homelessness in San Francisco, and we now know that San Francisco is basically ground zero for the homeless epidemic in the entire country. Everything that he touches turns to shit,
except his bank account and his properties and investments and things of that nature. His Plump Jack Winery is doing just fine over there in Northern Cali, and I'm sure he's given a nice tip when he goes to French Laundry. But look, I left California, obviously, because of COVID. but it wasn't just COVID, right? There were a series of other things.
COVID was finally the last punch in the gut to make it happen, but it was also the criminality. It was also, you know, you've been to my place. I lived in the hills. Actually, the house that I sold was evacuated a couple days ago. It is okay, but I lived in a really nice area in the hills that should have been safe and everything else, but there were homeless encampments everywhere.
these nonsensical things where the DA wouldn't, George Gascon, who no longer is the DA, thank God, but he was the DA that ruined San Francisco, so then he gets over to LA, and then you're allowed to trespass on people's houses, and then if you resist arrest, they won't arrest you.
So that means someone could put up a tent in my front lawn, and then if I try to get them off, not only could I be prosecuted, but then they could attack the cop and still not be prosecuted. So none of this is a surprise to me. So... Is it surprising they didn't clear the brush properly or that perhaps the reservoirs weren't filled properly or a series of other things?
Of course not, because once you bring in diversity, D-I-E, diversity, equity, inclusion, into any of these institutions, there's only finite time, there's only finite resources, their eye is off the ball, and bad things are going to happen. So look, I don't think Gavin Newsom If he has a heart, I don't even know. He's a lizard, but lizards have hearts. He's just cold-blooded.
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Chapter 5: How do political leaders influence public trust during crises?
Her life has likely been destroyed or at least sidetracked for a couple of years right now. And his immediate thought is to lie to her. Um, and the, and the other interesting thing about the way he keeps kicking the can down the road, or he'll have to talk to the local authorities, or I didn't know about this or whatever. It's like, dude, if you were smart, even I get your, I don't think he's
good, but people think he's slick, and it's like there's a difference between being slick, which I guess he's slick in a used car salesman sense, versus being smart. For his own political ability to continue going forward, for that, if nothing else, why wouldn't right now he be like boy, you know, we should have done things differently, and I'm looking into it.
Like, I think people, all the people attacking him right now, yes, I would still be attacking him. You'd probably still be attacking him, and we can still talk about the inefficiencies. But it would give him a real force field if he would just take some responsibility for something.
But the fact that his policies led to a lot of this, and then he still won't take responsibility, and he's literally on Twitter this morning claiming that someone that I guess Trump called him new scum and someone in seventh grade used to call him that too. And he was the bully. And it's like, dude, don't make this about you right now. Wow.
Wow. It's crazy. Yeah. Do you think he has any hope in 28 after all this?
I pray to God not. I mean, if that, look, everybody loves a comeback and, you know, there are all these heroes journeys. And I mean, just look at Trump. So many people hated Trump and now they love Trump. So can anything happen in politics? Of course. But I just, I can't be clearer about this, Drew. I think that Gavin Newsom is rotten to the core. He has done so much damage to what should be
really without exception, what should be the greatest state in the United States, the fifth largest economy in the world, unbelievable beauty, the coast, mountains, skiing, beaches, it's all there. The industries that were there that are largely leaving now. So much goodness that he has eroded, and just go to San Francisco, anyone, if you haven't been there, go to San Francisco.
The first time I was there about 15 years ago, it was the first time in my life that I had ever gotten to a city and within a day thought I could live here. That was before, you know, that was sort of in the midst of Gavin Newsom and then it all kind of crumbled after that. Everything he touches becomes a disaster. It's just, well, except his bank account.
And again, I've heard Plump Jack is quite nice.
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Chapter 6: What role does rational preparedness play in public health?
Chapter 7: How does misinformation shape our view of climate change?
Chapter 8: What lessons can be learned from past governance failures?
In the setting of Zuckerberg now sort of coming on board with the more Elon Musk-esque view of the world, which I would say is most consistent with the founding father's view of the world, which is that free speech is an essential civil liberty to maintain a properly functioning representative government. What do you think of YouTube still lagging behind? How do we get them to come in?
They, by the way, have not really answered us. We went to their, Sky Adams this morning was talking about the re-education camp they want me to go to. Caleb went for me. He went to a re-education program. Second time he's gone. Second time, mind you. And I said, we're going to put it up. I want to put the whole thing up online, what the re-education plan is. Caleb, you want to comment on it?
Caleb, what did you do?
It is the dumbest questions ever. And the worst part is the fact that they expected a licensed physician like Dr. Drew, who's been doing this for double the years that YouTube has existed. They wanted him to answer questions about just random things like some person was on a vlog and the co-host was on the vlog. And the guest on the vlog says that she was harmed by vaccines.
Is this break our rules or not? And you have to click yes or no for you to get the warning removed from your channel 90 days later. I can't wait to You just have to say what they want. I have all the questions. I saved them.
Oh my God, I can't wait. It's incredible.
I think the best lens to look at this through is the Twitter files for a moment, because when Elon took over Twitter and everyone was going crazy about it, what did we find out?
We found out, and I went there and met with him and I met with engineers, and they basically showed me, you know, there's some stuff they can't show you because it deals with people's email addresses and private information, but they basically showed me how the system worked. And the system was literally built to shadow ban.
Jack Dorsey, who was the former CEO of Twitter, testified under oath that shadow banning did not exist. And I think the way he was able to get through that without, you know, perjuring himself, not that it even matters at these hearings, is that shadow banning, I guess, is not a technical word.
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