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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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I did see that. I saw it this morning. Does not surprise me. You know, there's been something interesting going on with Vivek because after that H-1B visa thing, which happened, you know, right around Christmas, I think he's only tweeted twice since then.

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So I don't know if there was some internal... I don't know if there was some internal fighting or there was a smackdown or maybe they decided let Elon take Doge, you know, Department of Government Efficiency and you do something else. But look, Vivek...

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I had my frustrations with him during the primary process because, as you know, I was a DeSantis guy and I thought there were some unfair gripes there. That's just plain politics. It's all good. I've sat down with him in this very room since then and we're good. I think he would make a fine senator. I mean, I think the guy is able to communicate the issues that exist

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All is well in the great state of Florida. And yes, it is true. My house is worth more today than even a week ago because everybody from your fair state of California, if they weren't all coming here already, they're really all coming here now. I mean, joking aside, I spoke to my real estate agent just yesterday, and he said he's basically been on a 72-hour nonstop

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in an extremely competent and effective way. I think his youth and his experience and everything else, it just adds to if you want people in the Senate that not only understand the issues right, but can communicate them properly. It's one of the reasons that I'm so bullish on Pete Hegseth. It's because not only does he have a good pedigree,

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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As a TV presenter for the last 10 plus years, the guy knows how to communicate this stuff. And look at the people that we have had to put up with. Not only the incompetent people, but people who can't explain anything. You see what happens with Corinne Jean-Pierre when she doesn't have notes in front of her. Or Joe Biden, even with the teleprompter.

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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So I'm ready for not only people that are qualified, but people that can actually level with the American people and speak to them off script. I mean, look, that's what's driven Trump this entire time. What has it been? Has it been pure policy? No, it's been his ability to say what he's thinking. And whether you agree with it all or not, you know that he believes it.

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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So I did not see much of that this morning because I was doing my live show, so I can't comment on the specifics of what happened in the hearing on that one specifically.

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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Well, the only thing that I disagree with is that it's astonishing to see, because I think this is exactly what Gavin Newsom has wrought for his entire career.

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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Let's not forget, this was a guy, there's a video that anyone can see, you've probably played it on the show, back in 2008 as mayor of San Francisco, saying that he had a 10-year plan to end the homelessness in San Francisco, and we now know that San Francisco is basically ground zero for the homeless epidemic in the entire country. Everything that he touches turns to shit,

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except his bank account and his properties and investments and things of that nature. His Plump Jack Winery is doing just fine over there in Northern Cali, and I'm sure he's given a nice tip when he goes to French Laundry. But look, I left California, obviously, because of COVID. but it wasn't just COVID, right? There were a series of other things.

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phone binge because everybody is now trying to get out. They've just had it. You can't blame them. Drew, my second book was Don't Burn This Country. The first one was Don't Burn This Book. The second one was Don't Burn This Country, which I'm now realizing I didn't mean it literally, everybody. It was supposed to be a metaphor, and yet here we are.

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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COVID was finally the last punch in the gut to make it happen, but it was also the criminality. It was also, you know, you've been to my place. I lived in the hills. Actually, the house that I sold was evacuated a couple days ago. It is okay, but I lived in a really nice area in the hills that should have been safe and everything else, but there were homeless encampments everywhere.

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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these nonsensical things where the DA wouldn't, George Gascon, who no longer is the DA, thank God, but he was the DA that ruined San Francisco, so then he gets over to LA, and then you're allowed to trespass on people's houses, and then if you resist arrest, they won't arrest you.

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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So that means someone could put up a tent in my front lawn, and then if I try to get them off, not only could I be prosecuted, but then they could attack the cop and still not be prosecuted. So none of this is a surprise to me. So... Is it surprising they didn't clear the brush properly or that perhaps the reservoirs weren't filled properly or a series of other things?

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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Of course not, because once you bring in diversity, D-I-E, diversity, equity, inclusion, into any of these institutions, there's only finite time, there's only finite resources, their eye is off the ball, and bad things are going to happen. So look, I don't think Gavin Newsom If he has a heart, I don't even know. He's a lizard, but lizards have hearts. He's just cold-blooded.

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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I don't think he wanted the Palisades to burn down, but at some point, the buck stops with somebody, and you're completely right. Every interview that I have seen him have amidst rubble behind him We'll find out who did that. I'll talk to that. That's up to local authorities. We'll see about that. I'm trying to get help now. And it's like, dude, who is the governor?

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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You keep thinking it's like a comedy, like he's going to be like, oh, no, no, I'm on the phone with the governor. Wait a minute, I'm the governor. So the guy is absolutely terrible. He should have been recalled years ago. The fact that he not only didn't get recalled, but then won reelection since.

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Look, I have sympathy for every single person, even if you voted for him and you voted all these dingbat Democrats in. But at some point, This is the, you know, we talked about the kind of punch in the gut earlier and you woke up, it took you a long time to wake up to certain things with the medical community and journalism.

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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Of course, and you know I can relate anything back to Florida, but I would just say this. Look, acts of God are going to happen. There's going to be fires, and even though some of these clearly were arson and whatever, but there's going to be fires in areas that are dry. There's going to be hurricanes. There's going to be earthquakes, et cetera.

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The difference here is that I haven't heard anyone, and I mean this literally, I haven't heard anyone say, boy, California and SoCal and L.A., they really were prepared properly. I haven't heard anyone say, boy, they really did do a great job with the brush, and this just was overwhelming, even though the winds were quite strong and all that stuff.

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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The difference is, in a place with proper governance like Florida, what we know is we've been hit by several category four and five hurricanes, several of them in the last just three years that I've been here, and even though there often is devastation, as the acts of God are gonna cause, We know we have proper governance because the linemen are out there immediately.

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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The engineers are out there immediately. DeSantis met with the Sanibel Causeway people and said, he didn't say, what can I do to help you? He said, what can I do to get out of your way so you guys can do the job? Think how fundamentally different that is. Newsom, it's all about, oh, I'm gonna get you money. Me, me, me. DeSantis literally said, what can I do to get out of your way?

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Meaning, let me cut red tape so that the engineers and the electricians and the contractors can build the road. And they literally rebuilt the three-mile Sanibel Causeway in a matter of weeks when we know in California it would be like the railroad, which you got. How much does that cost you? How many billion? And with zero track laid?

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I quoted you several times on the show this week, and I love this concept because it's such a great way of explaining how thin their ideas are. You are completely right. If you believe in climate change, so I'm a skeptic, let's say, but let's say you are the- Yeah, but lean into it. Let's say you're all about it, 100%, right? This is your belief system. Well, if you are that-

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It's been a Democrat president for four years. It's a Democrat governor in California. It's a Democrat mayor in Los Angeles. It's a Democrat super majority in the state legislature. So what did you people do? And if your argument is, oh, well, and again, I haven't heard anyone make this argument, but if the argument is, we actually did everything. We did everything right with the reservoirs.

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Dave Rubin: CA Gov. Newsom’s Presidential Hopes Were In Flames Long Before Wildfires Turned Them (and LA’s Homes & Businesses) Into Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 447

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We did everything right with the brush. No, we didn't divert dams so that we could get smelt going and all the other stuff. Well, that didn't work either. So you still got to go. How about that?

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Take a moment if you're bleeding. You have the kit next to you. I'm sure there's something in the kit that will deal with the blood.

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Right. Well, there's two things going on there, because one is the mental and physical condition of Joe Biden, which at this point there's no point in belaboring. And I've been saying for a while on my show, I sense we're going to probably see him max two or three more times after he steps out of the Oval Office. And then there'll be a letter written, sort of like they did with Reagan at the end.

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Well, I'm a big fan of TWC. I love the contagion kit. They've been very good to us on the program. We do have a few of them here in the house, but it's interesting. You're in California where you literally have to keep the kit within arm's reach because that's how crazy it is. So then I was quickly, while you were reading that, I was looking around, what do I have in arm's reach?

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I've got two things. I've got a coaster for my coffee. That'll keep me safe. And I've got a little bit of tape here. That's it, because that's what life's like in Florida. And I could MacGyver the hell out of this thing and save a lot of people.

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Absolutely. I love that phrase. I mean, rational readiness, I think, is what most of us have started to come around to because, you know, 10 years ago, everybody was making fun of preppers, right? There were TV shows on TLC and whatever about the preppers. And, oh, they're all nuts and they think the apocalypse is coming.

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And it's like, man, you know, after three years of COVID, the preppers were looking pretty damn good when the ultra, you know, crazy liberals of Pacific Palisades were going to try to get their, you know, grass-fed Wagyu over at Whole Foods and they weren't allowed in. So...

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Drew, the video a couple days ago where Newsom is touring in the Palisades and this woman approaches him. I'm sure you guys played it. Oh, yeah. And he literally says, I'm on the phone with the president. And she says, can I talk to him? And then he goes, oh, I have no cell service. The fact that his... His immediate inclination is to lie to this woman. She's, she's with the rubble of her home.

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Her life has likely been destroyed or at least sidetracked for a couple of years right now. And his immediate thought is to lie to her. Um, and the, and the other interesting thing about the way he keeps kicking the can down the road, or he'll have to talk to the local authorities, or I didn't know about this or whatever. It's like, dude, if you were smart, even I get your, I don't think he's

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good, but people think he's slick, and it's like there's a difference between being slick, which I guess he's slick in a used car salesman sense, versus being smart. For his own political ability to continue going forward, for that, if nothing else, why wouldn't right now he be like boy, you know, we should have done things differently, and I'm looking into it.

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And then that will be it. They will say, okay, he did have some stuff. We tried to deal with it. And then eventually more and more rumors will come out about that. But let's put that part aside because that's not really what's important. You're completely right.

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Like, I think people, all the people attacking him right now, yes, I would still be attacking him. You'd probably still be attacking him, and we can still talk about the inefficiencies. But it would give him a real force field if he would just take some responsibility for something.

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But the fact that his policies led to a lot of this, and then he still won't take responsibility, and he's literally on Twitter this morning claiming that someone that I guess Trump called him new scum and someone in seventh grade used to call him that too. And he was the bully. And it's like, dude, don't make this about you right now. Wow.

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I pray to God not. I mean, if that, look, everybody loves a comeback and, you know, there are all these heroes journeys. And I mean, just look at Trump. So many people hated Trump and now they love Trump. So can anything happen in politics? Of course. But I just, I can't be clearer about this, Drew. I think that Gavin Newsom is rotten to the core. He has done so much damage to what should be

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really without exception, what should be the greatest state in the United States, the fifth largest economy in the world, unbelievable beauty, the coast, mountains, skiing, beaches, it's all there. The industries that were there that are largely leaving now. So much goodness that he has eroded, and just go to San Francisco, anyone, if you haven't been there, go to San Francisco.

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The first time I was there about 15 years ago, it was the first time in my life that I had ever gotten to a city and within a day thought I could live here. That was before, you know, that was sort of in the midst of Gavin Newsom and then it all kind of crumbled after that. Everything he touches becomes a disaster. It's just, well, except his bank account.

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The tone, and again, putting aside his inability to emote properly and the way his, the whispering with the yelling and all those things, the tone of the speech was so tone deaf relative to where America is going right now

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Look, there's a video going around of 2018 Donald Trump standing in a forest with Gavin Newsom talking about why you have to clear brush and why you have to do controlled burns and all of these things. Now, look, I'm not telling you that if Donald Trump had been president for these four years, he could have forced Gavin Newsom to do anything. But why is this stuff somewhat predictable?

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as i said before i did not leave because of fires obviously i left largely because of covid but i do also know that a few weeks before we left we had already sold the house we were on our way out uh one night in encino there was ash coming down which happens you know once or twice a year and i was on my roof with a hose i didn't know what the hell to do but i was like i don't know this is what happens you get some leaves up here and one piece of ash comes down and next thing you know your house is on fire and it's like the question is do you trust

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The basic systems. And if you're in California and you still trust the basic systems, then I got a bridge to sell you.

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You know, the day after the election, what I said was, you know, Joe Biden has an interesting opportunity because there's, you know, we have the three-plus months from the beginning of November to the middle of January, where we're at right now, where the president-elect hasn't taken office yet, and the outgoing president can really decide how he wants to angle it, how he wants to hand it off.

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I think the best lens to look at this through is the Twitter files for a moment, because when Elon took over Twitter and everyone was going crazy about it, what did we find out?

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We found out, and I went there and met with him and I met with engineers, and they basically showed me, you know, there's some stuff they can't show you because it deals with people's email addresses and private information, but they basically showed me how the system worked. And the system was literally built to shadow ban.

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Jack Dorsey, who was the former CEO of Twitter, testified under oath that shadow banning did not exist. And I think the way he was able to get through that without, you know, perjuring himself, not that it even matters at these hearings, is that shadow banning, I guess, is not a technical word.

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It's the idea that you're putting out information and it's being depressed algorithmically, but there's probably various ways you could interpret the word itself. But I saw the way they would tag accounts. And if Drew communicated with Dave Rubin and Rubin communicated with Joe Rogan, then that network could sort of be depressed.

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Or if you said this about, it was obviously largely about COVID, but it was also about election, but it was about gender and sexuality and all of these things. There was an unbelievably complex system with labels and color-coded things and all kinds of crazy things that the system was built on. So now we find out years ago that, okay, this is going on at Twitter.

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Isn't it interesting that there has not been the YouTube files? Isn't it interesting that there has not been the Facebook files? Now, we know a little bit more about Facebook because Zuckerberg has now come out and he was on Rogan last week. Basically, you know, it was interesting because I can't quite say it was a mea culpa with him. He never apologized nor really took any of the blame.

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How do you want to hand off the baton to the next guy? Do you want to do it in the most clunky possible ways so that he possibly drops the baton? Or do you want to take the running start and hand it off to him beautifully and elegantly and give him a chance to do great things?

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He just said, oh, well, people were calling us and yelling at us, and I always wanted to be a little more for free speech. I don't think he's been as bad as Jack Dorsey. I've seen him in the congressional hearings, and he was at least publicly, I think, trying a little bit more so to defend the right principles of free speech in the First Amendment.

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However, what I need out of Zuckerberg right now, Now, if you're trying to lead us into the metaverse where everyone's going to strap on that helmet and be in your three-dimensional world, how about a real apology? And you know what?

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If you don't want to throw anyone at your company under the bus for silencing people, well, if what you said on Rogan is true, that people from the government were calling you, yelling at you to silence people over COVID stuff, How about you just tell us who they were? Who were these people in the US government? Because those people should be in trouble, right?

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We don't even have to point the finger back at you, Zuckerberg. You're under a tremendous amount of pressure, and you have a lot of things to do during the day, so you can kick the can if you want, but who were the people at the government doing this? By the way, Jim Jordan released a report about a year ago that we know that that is all true.

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Now, as it pertains to YouTube, again, there's been no YouTube files, so if you think that Elon got into Twitter, he fired half the workforce, I think it was about 3,000 people, Everyone was like, oh my god, Twitter's not gonna work. It's actually much more elegant and works way better now, and it's been much more respectful of free speech.

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The question at YouTube that they have to grapple with, I suppose, as we go through this cultural change, how many people work there that are still messing with the algorithm? Who's even in charge? Because the algorithm is constantly being reinvented basically, right?

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So you have programmers that put an algorithm in and you need an algorithm because it has to order information somehow so that when you search, it can't just spit everything out at once. It has to be ordered in something. Is it a new video? Is it going viral already? Does it have a lot of likes? Does this person have a lot of subscribers?

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There's algorithms, people think the word algorithm is bad, but no, you need something to order information to some extent. But the question is, how damaged is the algorithm? And then the real question as it pertains to your video is, okay, was it the system an AI in the algorithm that took your video down?

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Well, virtually everything Biden has done in the end, from the pardons to largely, I would say, mucking up this Israel-Hamas situation that only is happening if it happens because of Trump, virtually every piece of... of legislation and everything that he has tried to push through in the last three months has just been an extension of the last four years.

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Or was it a person that is literally paid to watch a channel like Dr. Drew that's still doing it? And if that person is there doing it, under what directive are they? We know nothing about YouTube, which of course is why you and I are on Rumble. It's why I started Locals. And look, I'm still on YouTube. And I think we want to keep nudging them in the right direction. But I don't trust them. No.

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Yes, I'm glad you made that distinction because people do get a little lost in the weeds or confused here. Well, first off, there is some governmental issue here because the government, we know the government was putting pressure on these companies. So there is actually a First Amendment element to this.

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But even if you remove that for a moment, the question really that you're bringing up is, is there an ethical duty of a platform to allow free speech? And I would largely say yes, or at least they have to be transparent about their rules. That's the thing. Every internet site, social media or otherwise, has a terms of service. And if you break the terms of service, you can't be on their site.

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And by the way, I'm completely fine with that. Anyone that has a business, you can set the terms of your business just like you set the terms in your own home. If someone walks into my house and says a bunch of horrible things to me, you can't be in my house anymore. That's how it works. So I would apply that same rule to a business.

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The issue is – I mean there's also a legal issue regarding Section 230 because the difference between a platform and a publisher like Daily Wire is responsible for what Ben Shapiro might say on air.

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Well, 230 is very complex because basically it's allowing people to say more things. The protections that big tech gets on 230 are that they're not going to be sued, basically, for what is put on their platforms. Now, in some sense, you do want that, right? Because if someone puts up something horrible on Twitter or on YouTube, whatever, whatever, think of the most horrible thing you can think of.

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Someone puts it up there. You don't want Twitter or YouTube to be sued for that because then it will be incumbent on them to censor more people. And that's where censorship will be out of control. So in some sense, you want them to have the legal protection. So if you took 230 away, they would have to do more censoring. Now, on the other hand, if they're doing that censoring secretively,

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So you don't know what you did wrong in that video. They sent your guy to the re-education camp. You're still not sure what you did. They demonetize my videos. Often we have no idea why. I don't get deleted as much as I used to. And I think what happens also is when you hit a certain point,

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So when he's up there and basically talking about censorship and he's suddenly concerned about an oligarchy and rich people taking over, it's like, dude, you just literally put the Medal of Freedom around George Soros' son's neck in honor of George, who wasn't there, I guess his health isn't great, but you put it around Alex Soros' neck and now you're suddenly concerned about the oligarchy?

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eventually they start realizing you're more of a headache to deal with because then Elon retweets you and they're like, boy, we better stop messing with Dr. Drew because it's starting to butterfly effect this whole thing. But anyway, as it pertains to the legal, there's a philosophical premise of free speech, there's a legal definition of the First Amendment,

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And then there's the legal complexities of 230, and what do certain protections do? And if you remove those protections, are you just actually accidentally, you know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. So you remove the protections, and then next thing you know, Facebook is delaying posts.

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You can't post anything in real time because they've got to fact check it first, and do you trust their fact checkers or anything else? So it's extremely, extremely complex.

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Well, look, Drew, what you're talking about really is having a little humility in the face of the unknown, right? I mean, I grant everybody a very long leash at that beginning period of COVID and the two weeks or the 15 days to slow the spread or whatever. And then a lot of people, I'm very proud to say that I woke up very quickly after that. But everyone gets there on their own pace.

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And it's tough sometimes when you wake up and you still see people in that slumber. That's very tough. But you're talking about humility. You're saying, boy, there were things that I didn't understand that I may have wronged or given the wrong information or ignored this person and kept looking over there or whatever it might be. And a scientist, you're a man of science, right? A scientist...

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It's just a real shame because Joe Biden, if you remove the last, say, half decade or maybe even a decade, he was basically a moderate Democrat. And his legacy beyond the health stuff and the mental stuff, his legacy is that he ushered us in, well, he ushered in basically the endless woke nonsense that almost destroyed the country.

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should have humility beyond anything else, right? Like that should be the number one, you know, I would say skepticism probably, which we also didn't have a lot of that, but skepticism and humility probably are the underpinnings that would lead someone to being a great scientist. Do you think that Albert Einstein would just

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hear something from somebody and then repeat it as if it was fact or would he be skeptical would he be I mean Albert Einstein so much of his writing is his humility in the face of the ever expansive universe so how about we take some lessons for that from him let's say instead of maybe Peter Hotez or what's her name who's the woman on that they put on CNN all the time who they're still putting up now when Leanna Leanna when or something when yeah yeah yeah yeah oh my god she's at Newsome level for me

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And by the way, it's kind of the easiest thing to do to say, I don't know everything about everything. You know, I remember when Joe Biden gave that speech in June of 21, where he said, if you get the vax, you will not get nor transmit COVID. And I watched it live. And I remember thinking, there's just no way he knows this.

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You're telling me this thing was just rushed out and they've done enough to, like, I'm not a scientist. I'm not a man of science like you are, right? I learn from people and I read, but that's not my area of expertise. But why is it that I was willing to hear that and still be skeptical? I don't know, maybe I'm wired that way, whatever it might be.

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But all of these people, you know, that video that's gone very viral of Rachel Maddow after that, you remember that one, where she gives the most impassioned explanation, basically repeating everything that Biden said. And she had no idea what she's talking about.

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Why did Rachel Maddow, who gets paid about cool 20 million bucks a year to sit in that seat over on MSNBC, why is it that she swallowed the standard line and I did not?

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Drew, I'd be more than happy to be quiet for a little bit if you want to play it. But if you're just going to put the video up there, look at her body language too. She's so damn sure. Look at the way she's swinging her hands.

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And he had a little brief moment where he could have just handed it nicely to Trump and instead went this way. Yeah.

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Oh, well, the next thing, Drew, I'm going to take this coaster and I'm going to take this tape and I'm going to build a water filtration system and I'm going to send it to you over there just in case you need some help. RubinReport.com. There it is. Don't burn this country.

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I transitioned before it was cool, Drew. I heard a rumor that you might make a guest appearance on the Rubin Report tomorrow with Adam Carolla.

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Well, now I definitely have to have you on because I want to hear about the loveline life that you people are living, you two under a roof together. It's incredible.

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Yeah, and I actually don't think you're being hyperbolic when you say that. If you were to turn on CNN for an hour, I actually believe this. It would be more congruent with the truth if you just reversed everything they said. It would probably get you closer to what actually is happening rather than what they're presenting. It's unbelievable that they went this deep.

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And the funny thing is, we've discussed this before, I have always said... The American people, because we're a largely successful country, because we don't have sectarian strife, we don't have all the craziness that so much of the world has, we're distracted with a lot of things. And we have iPhones and we have video games and whatever else people want to do. The media...

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all they had to do was not be abjectly horrible. They didn't need to be 100% horrible, and we would have swallowed it. Look how long we swallowed. Look, Drew, you're one of the brightest guys I know. I admired you way before I even knew you as a human. The fact that it took you as long as it did to wake up and that you're willing to talk about it is why it went so viral, right?

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People appreciate that kind of mea culpa or moment that they realize that, that someone realizes, boy, maybe I didn't see things with the clearest glasses or whatever it might be. But all they had to do was not be completely horrible. And yet they still remain completely horrible. I saw some of the same videos you're talking about.

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You watched the Biden speech and then for them to be like, oh, and it was one of his greatest speeches. And, you know, it's the same thing when he stepped down. The same people who lied and said he was perfectly fine cognitively, then he steps down and then he's such a hero for doing it. It's so wonderful he did it. Well, why weren't you guys talking about it two days ago?

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You know, it's interesting the way you describe your feelings about the New York Times because I'm from New York. I know many people, you know, New York Upper West Side people who to them the New York Times is the Bible.

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And I think partly what happened here is that people, it's very hard, you know this, and COVID is what woke up so many people around this notion, but it's very hard to get people to suddenly be like, boy, you know, I've been reading the New York Times for 30 years and I enjoy reading it and I have my cup of coffee when I'm reading it.

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and my dog's in my lap, and it's like the New York Times commercial that they used to play. And after 30 years, I did notice something about a year ago, but then there was something about 10 months ago, and then it was six months ago, five months ago, and now it's happening every day. And to get people to fully get to the end of the road on that.

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I mean, keep in mind, the New York Times was too woke and radical for Barry Weiss five years ago. Barry Weiss is is like the most moderate, I would say, moderate, milquetoast liberal that you can come up with, not Republican. She's absolutely not a Republican. And it was too radical for her five years ago.

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So anything that comes out from the New York Times at this point, and you know, the other part, of course, Drew, you know this, is that For guys like us that occasionally they write about us, right? So I read things about myself that are completely not what I said or framed in the worst possible light or they literally remove the word not or something like that.

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So once you see them do it about you yourself, suddenly you go, well, I'm guessing they're doing this to other people too.

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Well, look, if what should start happening in four days actually happens, a lot of that is going to change. The previous guest that you had on, sorry, I only jumped on in the last second, so I'm not sure who it was, but he said basically that, yeah, so he was talking about how that Donald Trump 2.0 is going to be a lot smarter and know what the proper...

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who the proper enemies are and everything else i you know that's a lot of people are saying that sort of thing i really believe it i happened to be at an event just a few days ago with bobby kennedy it was a private event but i think i can share one little thing which is he said something that was so inspiring it was so great to hear he said you know they have to staff at h uh hhs i think about 2500 people hhs alone that's a lot of people and he said that the amount of people

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that he's getting calls and emails from who are industry leaders, who are millionaires, billionaires, experts, engineers. He went through the laundry list of the types of people that you would want to work in the government, and they're all saying the same thing to him. He said, I want to serve my country. And that is what is shifted here. If you would have said five years ago,

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that Donald Trump's gonna be president again, Bobby Kennedy's gonna be on the same side of him, and together they're going to be hacking away at what we now call the deep state, nobody would have believed you. But this is the generational chance, right? If we're gonna ever fix any of this so that those middle management bureaucrats don't have all of the power, this is it.

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And I don't know how long of a runway Trump has to do it, but I think they're gonna do a lot very quickly, and then we'll see.

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Perfect. He is the right guy for the job. And you know, I've been watching a lot of old speeches of his uncle, JFK, obviously. And you know, so much of what JFK talked about all the time, I mean, what's the most famous line? Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. And I think that that's reflective in the quote that I just mentioned with Bobby. It's like,

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People are suddenly like, oh, this country has been pretty damn good to me and I've done an awful lot and I've become successful. What can I do now to help this thing? So that's why I think it's a once in a generation moment here. I mean, I don't remember any time in my lifetime, you've got a couple years on me, but I don't remember any time in my lifetime

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where so many people, I mean, just look at the type of people that are involved here. You could go David Sachs, who is a billionaire, who's running a gajillion businesses, who has no need to suddenly say, I will be the crypto AI czar, but that is the horizon. We're painting a new horizon as it pertains to money and transactions. So he's saying, I'll get involved.

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I assure you that Elon Musk, putting aside Twitter, has plenty of other things to do than deal with government inefficiency. Vivek could have his job of choice, or he could move to Bora Bora if he wanted. And that's just a few of the people. There's many people on the lower level that aren't as well known that are doing the same thing.

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You know, you take your friends out to dinner, private room, very illustrious group of guests, our friend Dennis Prager and Larry Elder, who should be governor of California right now, and Sage Steele is there. It was like my great crew of friends. And dinner's on me, guys. Get whatever you want. And somehow Corolla turns to a billionaire and says, would you like to share the potato? And they did.

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They did. And I'm sure that's the only time he's ever shared a potato. And if the economy works out, he will never have to share a potato again.

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That was what Biden's economy did to us. We had a billionaire sharing a potato with a millionaire. Corolla's doing okay.