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The GOP’s tug-of-war over spending cuts

Tue, 20 May 2025

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Mark Chiusano writes for New York magazine about a mother who took her sons to a routine ICE check-in. They were scheduled for deportation and she hasn’t seen them since. House Republicans want to extend tax cuts and lower the deficit. The Wall Street Journal’s Richard Rubin describes why doing both at the same time might be impossible.  Are incidents involving air-traffic-controller communications happening more frequently? USA Today’s Zach Wichter explains what might be causing them and how we should contextualize the issue. Plus, Trump spoke to Putin and claims peace talks will begin “immediately,” another news executive quit CBS News, and what to know about the new Take It Down Act. Today’s episode was hosted by Shumita Basu.

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Chapter 1: What are the implications of the upcoming GOP bill?

5.066 - 26.601 Shumita Basu

Good morning. It's Tuesday, May 20th. I'm Shamita Basu. This is Apple News Today. On today's show, the upcoming GOP bill may have hurt the U.S. credit rating. Another airport near miss makes America's air traffic issues unignorable. And a second high-profile exit at CBS News made tensions with Trump.

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But first, yesterday, the Supreme Court gave the administration permission to terminate the temporary protected status former President Biden had granted to about 350,000 Venezuelan immigrants. This had given them legal rights to work and live in the U.S. as their home country was deemed unsafe or impossible to return to.

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The Trump administration is planning to end similar rights for 500,000 Haitians later this year. Although border crossings are down substantially, President Trump is working to fulfill his promise of deporting millions of people.

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According to the Brookings Institute, the best available data indicates that daily deportations are below Biden-era levels, in part because of the lull in border activity. But conflicting data from government agencies makes it difficult to know the true number. One way the administration is trying to boost its numbers is by detaining people at routine and mandatory immigration check-ins.

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The Guardian analyzed immigration arrests made during Trump's first month in office and found roughly 1,400 happened during ICE check-ins or right after. That's around 8% of the total arrests made during that time. Some of the people detained have no criminal records. Like Josue and Jose Lopez Diaz, brothers from El Salvador who are 19 and 20 years old. They came to the U.S.

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almost 10 years ago with their mom, who was fleeing poverty and gang violence. They were detained at the border. Their asylum request was denied. But the family was released into the U.S. while their appeal process continued. And the brothers were pursuing green cards under special immigrant juvenile status for those under 21 years old who've been abused or neglected by a parent.

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in this case, their father. In March of this year, Josue and Jose went with their mom to a routine check-in with immigration officials in Manhattan, and they were both detained.

Chapter 2: How does immigration policy affect families?

148.886 - 160.712 Mark Carney

These are church kids who their pastor says are entirely free from vice. They had no criminal record, no reason to think that they wouldn't just kind of do this check-in and then leave, and yet they were detained.

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That's Mark Chisano, who told the family's story for New York Magazine.

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165.879 - 186.773 Mark Carney

They were very quickly brought to a detention center in Buffalo, and they stayed there a couple of weeks. Eventually, they're flown down to Louisiana in this crazy trip that was many, many hours long. They're shackled the entire way so intensely that they both had what they called phantom pains afterwards, even after the shackles were taken off. They get to Louisiana.

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They spend some time there and are told that they're going to be deported. At the end of the week, they get removed to El Salvador. And that's where they are now.

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Josue missed his high school graduation. He told Chisano that an immigration official told him to not worry about that stuff anymore because, quote, you're not from here anymore. But their mother told Chisano the United States is all they know. El Salvador is so foreign to them at this point that she doesn't know who they will live with. And she can't leave the U.S.

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to go be with them because she can't leave her youngest son, a U.S. citizen who's eight years old, behind. He has a neurological disorder that requires constant care.

228.012 - 241.481 Mark Carney

These brothers are so American to the point that they were being used to translate for other immigrants while in detention by ICE. So I think that's worth keeping in mind when we think about who is being detained by the Trump immigration system.

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Let's turn to Congress, as House Republicans race to pass a major tax and spending package before Memorial Day. In doing so, they're preparing to face a basic math problem. The scale and scope of their proposal could increase the deficit by several trillion dollars, just at a time when borrowing costs appear to be climbing and concern over mounting debt rises.

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On Friday, Moody's Credit Agency, which monitors a country's capacity to pay back its debts, downgraded the U.S. 's rating from the highest AAA. It blamed, quote, But it also sounded the alarm over this bill.

Chapter 3: What are the consequences of changing the U.S. credit rating?

438.837 - 458.761 Richard Rubin

The way they're thinking about it is the extension of the tax cuts won't get felt much at all because it's just keeping the status quo. These things are scheduled to expire where people are very much used to them. So Republicans clearly are concerned about deficits, but they also view an expiration of the tax cuts as scheduled at the end of this year as completely untenable.

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Today, President Trump is expected to meet with House Republicans as they try to pull their votes together as soon as they can. Now to travel, where a string of high profile aviation disasters have left people wondering just how safe our air traffic control system really is. Just yesterday, we learned about another close call.

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Earlier this month, a passenger jet at LaGuardia Airport in New York was forced to abort takeoff to avoid a potential collision as another United Airlines plane was on the runway at the same time. Air traffic controllers realized just in time and frantically pulled their go-ahead to take off.

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4736, stop. Sorry about that. I thought United had cleared well before that. Just stay there for a moment, and I've got to get the other United out of the way. We'll get you off the runway.

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Then there was the deadly collision between an Army helicopter and an American Airlines flight near Washington, D.C. in January that killed 67 people. In that case, just one air traffic controller was managing both helicopter and commercial traffic, which is a job normally done by two people.

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In April, air traffic controllers at Newark in New Jersey, one of the busiest airspaces in the country, lost all radar and radio contact with planes for 90 seconds. And it happened again just over a week later. Then last week, the same thing happened to air traffic controllers in Denver for about two minutes.

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All of these incidents have raised questions like, are these staffing issues and communication outages normal and we're just now hearing about them? Or is something new happening here?

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The safety incidents that we've seen are absolutely anomalies. Flying commercially in the U.S. is still the safest way to travel.

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Zach Wichter covers consumer travel for USA Today.

Chapter 4: How are tax cuts connected to economic growth?

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None of what I'm about to say means that air traffic control is unsafe. But the way that the Federal Aviation Administration does its funding is kind of piecemeal. It gets funded by Congress essentially every five years. And because of that structure, it's been really hard for Congress and the agency to fund tech upgrades.

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And it's also been really hard to fund the hiring and training of new air traffic controllers. And this is something that experts who are familiar with aviation have sort of been warning about for years, if not decades.

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In a recent New York Times analysis of air traffic control facilities nationwide, reporters learned that 99 percent of facilities are operating below the recommended staffing levels set by the FAA and the union representing air traffic controllers. And the administration has said that the U.S.

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air traffic control system is so outdated that it still relies on technology like floppy disks to function. And certain replacement parts can only be found on eBay. Here's Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy speaking at a press conference earlier this month, shortly after the Newark incidents.

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We use radar from the 1970s. Some of them are from the 80s, but most of them are from the 70s. So this technology is 50 years old that our controllers use to scan the skies and keep airplanes separated from one another.

Chapter 5: What challenges do Republicans face with their spending proposal?

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Duffy recently announced that his department plans to build a brand new, multibillion-dollar air traffic control system within three years. It would involve new hardware and software paid for by Congress. The exact price tag is unknown. Duffy has suggested he wants lawmakers to tell him what they would be able to fund.

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So far, the House Transportation Committee has approved $12.5 billion, but Duffy says he'll need more. Before we let you go, a few other stories we're following. President Trump claims ceasefire talks between Russia and Ukraine are to start immediately after he had a two-hour phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin and a separate call with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenskyy.

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But his post on social media made no mention of the unconditional ceasefire demanded by some European leaders, nor did it reference the talks in Istanbul last week, which seemingly went nowhere. Trump instead touted the potential trade wins for Putin in the event of peace. Putin, meanwhile, stressed again the need to address, as he put it, the root causes of the war in any deal.

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In media news, the head of CBS News has become the second high profile person to step down as the network confronts a lawsuit from the Trump administration. CBS's corporate parent, Paramount Global, is currently involved in settlement negotiations with lawyers for Trump. over the editing of an October interview with former Vice President Kamala Harris.

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Now former CBS CEO Wendy McMahon's resignation made clear that she was not happy with the way those talks were going, declaring that the company and I do not agree on the path forward. The veteran executive producer of 60 Minutes, Bill Owens, resigned in April, saying Paramount Global was infringing on his journalistic independence. And finally, Trump signed the Take It Down Act into law today.

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It makes it a federal crime to post real and fake sexually explicit imagery online of people without their consent. And it requires social media companies to remove images and videos, including deepfakes generated by artificial intelligence, within 48 hours after a victim's request. The bill had bipartisan support as well as public backing from the first lady, Melania Trump.

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The 19th has some advice on how you can request the takedown of explicit images created or shared without permission, including some resources on how to fight online abuse. You can find those links and all the stories we talked about today in the Apple News app. And if you're already listening in the news app right now, we've got a narrated article coming up next from Wired.

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This month, Airbnb will launch the first phase of a $200 million reinvention. This version of the company won't just be about booking a vacation, according to Airbnb's CEO. It'll be a hub to solicit almost any kind of service, including a super concierge with AI that knows you well enough to plan your trips for you.

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If you're listening in the podcast app, follow Apple News Plus Narrated to find that story. And I'll be back with the news tomorrow.

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