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Behind the Bastards
Part One: The Pol Pot Episodes: How A Nice, Quiet Kid Murdered His Country
Knowing that she had six months to live, I was no longer pretending that this was my best friend.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: The Pol Pot Episodes: How A Nice, Quiet Kid Murdered His Country
At the time that I called the police, he knew I had called him and left the house with a firearm and was texting me that he was going to use it.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: The Pol Pot Episodes: How A Nice, Quiet Kid Murdered His Country
Knowing that she had six months to live, I was no longer pretending that this was my best friend.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: The Pol Pot Episodes: How A Nice, Quiet Kid Murdered His Country
At the time that I called the police, he knew I had called them and left the house with a firearm and was texting me that he was going to use it.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: The Zizians: How Harry Potter Fanfic Inspired a Death Cult
I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: The Zizians: How Harry Potter Fanfic Inspired a Death Cult
I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: The Zizians: How Harry Potter Fanfic Inspired a Death Cult
I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: The Zizians: How Harry Potter Fanfic Inspired a Death Cult
I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating.
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Part One: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science
I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science
I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science
I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science
I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails.
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I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails.
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I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails.
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I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails.
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I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails.
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I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents.
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Let's do this. So the news we have today is that effectively every single thing I have talked about on Tariff Talk before this is just the fucking prelude. You know, and those have been very, very extreme tariffs, but these are effectively...
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going to be looked back on as the opening series of skirmishes and sort of probing defenses on april 2nd trump is going to crash the entire world economy he is calling this liberation day on april 2nd he is planning to impose reciprocal tariffs on every single country on earth
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Now, I'm going to take a fucking victory lap here because I have been talking about this for a very, very long time. I talked about this last year. I talked about this at the beginning of last year. I talked about this at the end of last year. The entire media seems to have sort of forgotten about this until they all suddenly remembered this week that Trump had promised to do reciprocal tariffs.
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So what reciprocal tariffs are, in theory, is if there's a tariff on something from another country, the U.S. matches it. So the way the Trump administration thinks about tariffs is deeply weird. So they're including things like value-added taxes on goods in countries. Wow. Which is like a sales tax in the U.S. Yeah, yeah. But also like subsidies.
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And also, and this is the part that has gotten less things, but quote-unquote currency manipulation? Now, how the fuck do you calculate that for literally every single country on Earth? Who knows? Business Insider has some reporting on this where they talked to some insiders.
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Okay, so literally there are not enough people working on tariffs to like calculate out individual tariff rates for every single country on Earth. It looks like the plan right now, and this is all subject to change because, again, this is Trump administration and who the fuck knows what they're going to be saying or doing in two weeks.
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But what we know right now is it looks like they're going to separate every country on Earth into three tiers of tariffs. So there's going to be like a low tier, a mid tier and a high tier. And it's unclear exactly what levels they're going to be. These are going to be on top of all of the additional tariffs that they've already imposed. So say, for example, China gets put into high tier one.
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They put like a 50% tariff on it. That means the tariff rate is going to be 70% because there's already 20% tariffs on there. Business Insider seemed to think 20% is like the low one. I don't know about that. I think they're going to be pretty high. We have no idea. And again, so what's happening here is Trump is declaring this liberation day because he has convinced himself.
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I think I finally understand what's going on in his brain, which is that he has convinced himself that like if you have a trade deficit with a country, that means the country is robbing you. Right.
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Yeah. Now, this is not how international trade works. works at all for the U.S. The entire U.S. empire is based on outsourcing a bunch of political violence to other countries so you can buy goods at cheap rates. That's what the empire is.
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Yeah, and so something I mentioned, you know, back when I was talking about this in the tariff episode right after the election is that the thing about reciprocal tariffs, right, is that it means that if anyone attempts to fight a trade war with the U.S., So another country imposes 20% tariffs. The U.S. will also impose 20% tariffs.
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And this just spirals out of control into a version of a trade war so unhinged, like none of us have ever seen anything like it in our lifetimes. Hell yeah, brother.
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That's coming. We now have April 2nd as the day everything explodes. I also want to put another note here. The hope has always been from a lot of countries and a lot of the financial markets and a bunch of companies that... These tariffs are going to have more exemptions because there were some exemptions on stuff in the initial tariffs on Mexico and Canada.
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Well, and he kept going back and forth, right? Yeah. But now we're getting into tariffs which have no exceptions. The steel and aluminum tariffs have had no exemptions at all. What we've been hearing, so one of the things I've been noting is that Canada and EU have been basically mobilizing in the trade war and imposing reciprocal tariffs in the U.S. China has too. Mexico has not.
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Apparently, Mexico still thinks that they can negotiate to be in like the lowest tier of tariffs. This won't completely destroy their economy. Fuck if I know why they think that, but... Who knows? Yeah, but that's effectively the tariff news we have right now. We have, again, April 2nd, quote unquote, Liberation Day, the day that this all goes into effect.
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I bet they wanted to do April 1st and realized that they couldn't. No.
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And like, is it extremely bad that the way that you integrate into American society is by being a part of the imperial war machine? Yes. Yes. But also, the war machine is going to be there whether you are in it or not. Yeah. And the actual fundamental important thing here is, again, what we've been saying is that like,
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The fundamental basis of liberal democracy going back to the American Revolution, going back to the French Revolution, going back to the original liberal revolutions, the fundamental principle of it is that everyone is equal before the law.
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And the moment that ceases to be true, and it has not been true in this country ever, but, you know, we're seeing increasing numbers of people who are not considered equal before the law.
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We just spent this entire fucking, like, first part of this episode talking about what happens when people are considered to have no protections under the law, which is that the state can just fucking blackbag you and send you to a gulag. Yeah, like, that is bad. That's what's fundamentally at stake here, not like...
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Well, so there's another case of this that's similar where a French researcher who, to the best of my knowledge, is unnamed so far, was randomly pulled aside for a stop at George Bush International Airport in Houston, which is sort of fitting for all of this. George Bush has got to be fucking creaming his pants thinking about all this black bagging shit.
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But yeah, it was randomly pulled over and they found anti-Trump texts on his phone and immediately deported him. This is a guy who was visiting the U.S. like I think to go to a conference. And the Border Patrol is arguing that anti-Trump texts are considered terrorism, which is great. Or the text that they found are like could be like the anti-Trumpness of it can be considered terroristic.
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So that's bad. There was yet another case, which is a slightly different one, which is Badr Khan Suri, who is a postdoc at Georgetown who was detained and sent to an immigration facility. He's a postdoc at Georgetown on a student visa who has been sent to an immigration facility based on basically a right-wing panic about his wife's death.
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Wife's father being Hamas, and because of this, he's been blackbagged in a way very similar to Mahmoud Khalil. Yeah, now Georgetown is backing him on this, but this is another one of these fucking blackbaggings that they're just doing now with someone who is here on a student visa, who has committed no crime, who Georgetown was like has committed no crime.
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And again, also, even if he committed a crime, this is fucking horseshit, but... All of these things are just continuing to ramp up and they're getting bolder and bolder.
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spread by the person who leads the federal task force to combat anti-semitism great yeah and and going going back to columbia for a second one of the other things that's been happening is that trump threatened columbia with the loss of 400 million dollars of government contracts unless they give in to a bunch of trump's demands so trump wants them to ban masks on
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campuses allow campus cops to do more violence against student protesters and expel like protesters who occupy buildings um the president is supposed to get control of all discipline and can expel and suspend students and they want to crack down student groups they want and this is also a tie into the other thing they want the ihra definition of anti-semitism and like specifically the trump's like letter to them specifically says like classifying anti-zionism as anti-semitism
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And they want to put the Middle East, South Asian, and African studies departments in academic receivership, which means stripping away power from the faculty and giving it to someone outside. Columbia is about to give in to these demands. It seems like they want to try to find another word other than academic receivership, but they're just going to fucking do it.
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So and Trump to Trump of legal authority to do this. No, obviously not. But, you know, does he have the moral authority to do this? No, obviously not. Like this guy is. But none of those are important.
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And so he's also doing this thing of like attempting basically to dismantle a bunch of the higher education institutions in this country unless they become just pure right wing sort of laboratories. And another example of this is as the news stories about Columbia were coming out, like Columbia trying to take the deal coming, we're coming out.
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The University of Pennsylvania is about to lose one hundred and seventy five million dollars of funding for allowing Leah Thomas, a trans swimmer, to swim for their college students. So this is just going to be a giant sort of battering ram that Trump is going to use to just basically obliterate the education system and impose whatever unhinged right-wing thing that he wants to impose.
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Yes. So as people do with the boy flu. So so that's. The thing about chickens is that they're dying from bird flu right now. This has killed an enormous number of chickens. This is part of why egg prices are so high. Now, this is a problem that a lot of countries have dealt with. China has dealt with this by just fucking vaccinating their chickens.
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The Biden administration refused to vaccinate chickens because it would cost money and because it might make it harder for U.S. to export their chickens. So that was bad. RFK Jr. literally just wants to let the bird flu rip and kill all the birds and thinks that the healthy birds will survive. And those healthy birds... Herd immunity. Yeah, yeah, he thinks herd immunity.
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He is a herd immunity guy for COVID because he's a human eugenicist. He's also a chicken eugenicist. Now, I'm specifically doing this because I read multiple virologists writing about this. I talked to virologists, and the virologists all basically said, if you were trying to design a way to make the bird flu mutate in such a way that it moves from birds to humans, this is what you would do? Yeah.
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We really don't want to find out. Yeah, look, if you don't want to find out, we have to find a way to get RFK Jr. out of that fucking office. Like...
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I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating.
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I don't feel emotions correctly. I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails.
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I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating.
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I am talking to a felon right now, and I cannot decide if I like him or not.
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I live with my boyfriend and I found his piss jar in our apartment.
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I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails.
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I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating.
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I am talking to a felon right now, and I cannot decide if I like him or not.
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I live with my boyfriend, and I found his piss jar in our apartment.
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I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents.
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Welcome to Kadapn Here, a podcast increasingly ruled by an absolutely unhinged and unrestrained band of Nazis and apparently their democratic collaborators. I am your host, Mia Wong, with me is James Stout. I'm Mia's collaborator today. Yay, this is Collaborator Good. We are talking today about Collaborator Bad.
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So, on Friday, Senator Chuck Schumer and his allies, in an act of democratic collaboration with the regime that looks even more hideous now than it did then in the wake of a series of absolutely horrific deportations in the last few days, voted for basically a continuing funding resolution. So, this is... This is a little bit complicated, but I believe in us.
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We can get through a little tiny bit of Senate bullshit. So basically what's happening is that they need a resolution to keep funding the government for a little bit until more negotiations can happen to fund a budget. There hasn't been a budget. Basically, like we keep seeing this over and over again. They're keeping continuing funding resolutions.
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They keep almost being government shutdowns because if there's not a continuing funding resolution and there's no budget, the government doesn't have any money. What happened here was that so in the Senate, you can filibuster this. And a whole bunch of senators, Schumer and others, who we will be reading out later after we talk about what this resolution actually did, because it's unhinged.
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I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating.
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So you've probably been hearing if you've been hearing about this, you've been hearing it called a cloture vote. So what that is, is basically the absolute shortest version of it is it's a vote to kill a filibuster on the bill. You filibuster by continuing debate, cloture ends debate, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So this resolution is staggeringly unhinged.
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It is not a very long funding continuation. It includes $13 billion in cuts to non-military spending and also $6 billion in military spending cuts. There are a lot of things that have been sort of defunded by this, including like a lot of like housing and urban development stuff. It's a research ship.
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You know, and that's obviously really bad because normally with these resolutions, you're just sort of like continuing the funding, right? But this is not a normal continuing resolution. This is... It is very, very overdramatic to do the thing that a lot of people have been doing, which is comparing it to the enabling acts that the Nazis passed. Yeah, it's not.
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But, but, comma, this is a completely unhinged continuing resolution. There has never been a continuing resolution like this ever. And it is, genuinely, it is another step down the path of... effectively having Trump running the government as a dictator by sort of pure fiat.
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And, okay, you hear me say this, and you think this is an exaggeration, but what this continuing resolution actually does is normally in one of these resolutions, Congress tells the executive how parts of the budget are supposed to be sent, right? It does allocations. It'll be like, okay, so there's this money for this thing, and it goes to this purpose, and you have to spend it here.
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This continuing resolution says, Just like doesn't do that. Yeah. And the goal of it is just to let Trump do whatever the fuck he wants with the money by not actually giving out congressional things to specifically allocate it.
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So this is more of a thing we've been seeing more and more, which is Congress specifically like delegating and abandoning its constitutional power to be the people who set the budget and just handing it over to the executive. So there can be a single unitary executive that runs the entire government.
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Yeah. You know, you could argue about whether the American Revolution was about the king being able to set taxes because that was technically a thing controlled by the British Parliament. But, like, is, for example, the issue that, like, the Revolution of 1789 was fought over, right? Like, that there shouldn't be a single unitary executive who gets to fucking set the budget?
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not like the kind of the point of the thing is to not just have one older dude in charge like like that that is the english way yeah and this is this is the fundamental like principles upon which the liberal notion of democracy is based and i use liberal in like the 1700s early 1800s sense of the word liberal right which is that like you believe in democracy yeah
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This bill effectively just allows Trump to fund and defund programs at will. I mean, there are specific things, like boundaries in which he can and can't do this. But I'm going to read some stuff from Senator Patty Murray, who is the vice chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee, which is the committee that handles, like, where money goes in the budget, right?
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It was budget appropriations, et cetera, et cetera. So she, you know, is one of the senators who sort of understands this intimately. She wrote a fact sheet about this, which is fucking terrifying. I'm just going to quote from that because good God,
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Quote, under this continuing resolution, the Trump administration could, for example, decide not to suspend funding previously allocated for combating fentanyl, the Support Act and other substance abuse and mental health care programs or specific NIH priorities like Alzheimer's disease and vaccine research, and instead steer funding to other priorities of its choosing.
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It could also pick and choose which military construction, army corps, or transit improvement and expansion projects to withdraw funding without direction from Congress, leaving democratic states and priorities in the lurch.
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So, like, there is also a bunch of funding cuts for things like the Army Corps of Engineers. And, like, there are a lot of valid criticisms you can have about the Army Corps of Engineers and, for example, the way it, like, has structurally fucked the entire city of New Orleans. But the thing is, not giving them money to do hurricane prevention is not going to help that.
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And the thing about this, right, because this resolution has... 13 billion in direct budget cuts. And then it also allows Trump to do more cuts on top of it by doing by doing these funding allocation things. Right. So it's it's like it's a fucking like double. Yeah, it's sort of double set of cuts here. And this includes, you know, he can he can reallocate money away from the FAA.
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One of the most absolutely terrifying ones is that this continuing resolution allows RFK Jr. to to eliminate funding for the universal flu vaccine.
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You know, this is really the substantive problem with this entire thing and why it is genuinely an act of collaboration worthy of Vichy France. To fucking pass this to pass this fucking bill is that, again, you are handing control of like the budgets, right? You are handing direct control of just like how budget allocation stuff gets gets fucking dealt with to like Elon Musk, Trump and RFK Jr.
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So other things, it defunds FEMA's disaster relief fund, which is bad because a bunch of FEMA's disaster relief fund has been defunded. get this, exhausted, because there were a bunch of fucking disasters. Guess what there's going to be more of? Disasters. Guess what there's not going to be money in? Jesus. The FEMA disaster relief fund. Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, and here's the thing.
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We have not fucking hit the worst part of this continuing resolution yet. Like, all of that, right? Like, the monopolization of power in the hands of the executive, you know, like, the potential defunding of the flu vaccine. We have not hit rock bottom yet. Rock bottom is this.
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Getting resolution, quote, slashes $185 million, 7% of the total program, from defense nuclear nonproliferation programs, including the programs to prevent terrorists from acquiring nuclear and radioactive material, remove radioactive materials at risk of being misused or causing a catastrophic accident, and deter and monitor foreign nuclear fuel cycle and weapons developments, nuclear materials movement or diversions, and nuclear explosions.
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cool so we are defunding the nuke police again for a third time and this one looks like it's actually gonna fucking stick because i don't think any of these fucking people actually understand what the defense nuclear non-proliferation like programs do yeah i mean i don't know because they were on one about iran and enriching uranium for years have they just have they just give have they moved on
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As we're going to see in a second, this budget is being written by just fucking clowns. Just absolute dipshits.
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It's literally an army of staffers. The senators who are voting for these bills most often have no idea what the fuck is in them. It's all run by an army of staffers. And the thing about it all being run by an army of staffers and the fact that Republican staffers are increasingly drawn from a class of like genuinely the most unhinged people who have ever lived.
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This class of fucking Internet gropers and fucking white nationals bullshit means that One of the parts of this I think people have heard about is the $1 billion in spending that was cut just from the city budget of Washington, D.C. Now, looking at what's happened next, I genuinely think they did this by accident.
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That's been the explanation that's been given, is that they literally did it by accident. And the reason I think it might actually be true, it's either actually true or... They saw the pushback, but immediately after this bill got passed, there was like a separate bill that was drafted to restore the funding. And that was approved unanimously by the second.
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So it might legitimately have been a mistake. It was either legitimately a mistake or all of these people realized that the entire population of D.C. was about to like fucking march on the Capitol and pitchforks. So... I don't know. One of those two things. So we're not talking much about the D.C. stuff because it seems like the funding is going to come back.
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So if it doesn't, we'll cover the catastrophic impacts of that. And there's one more thing, James, which I couldn't find details of. But one of the things it's supposed to do is eliminate protections for people in immigration courts. Fantastic. Great. Allow the attorney general more power.
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Yeah. So speaking of bad things, we're going to go to ads and then we're going to come back. We are back. So having said all of this about this bill, fully 10 Democratic senators voted to avoid shutting down the government and fucking pass this unbelievably hideous resolution, which again, like defunds the nuke police again. They are risking global annihilation by doing this.
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And I'm just going to read out the names of everyone who did this, because there's been a lot of focus on Chuck Schumer, and Chuck Schumer is probably the primary person responsible for this, but fuck every single one of these people individually.
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Yes, yes. Okay, so Chuck Schumer, Catherine Cortez Masto, Dick Durbin, which is actually a surprising one because Durbin... So Durbin's about to retire. He was my old senator in Illinois. Actually, no, he wasn't. Well, complicated. I actually fucking don't remember which one of them I had. But Durbin is, you know, he's like senior party leadership guy. He's usually been...
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in the kind of left, I guess, of the old Democratic leadership, which is not very far left, but he fucking voted for this. John Fetterman, to the surprise of absolutely no one. Kirsten Gillibrand, to the surprise of absolutely no one. Maggie Hassan, Agnes King, Gary Peters, Brian Schatz, and Janine Shaheen. Now, notably missing from that list, Tim fucking Cain voted against this.
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Do you know how bad a Republican budget thing has to be for Tim fucking Cain to vote against it and be like, hey, guys, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah.
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Yeah. And, you know, the response to this is staggering. I genuinely I have never seen anything like the kind of anger I'm seeing. I've seen that for the past few days. This has happened Friday, like Indivisible, which is like a pretty so Indivisible is like a sort of NGO thing. Yeah, that's like a like tries to it's like a sort of vaguely progressive thing.
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It tries to get people to vote for the Democrats. Yeah, and, like, register voters and stuff. Yeah, and they've been getting into fights with the Democratic leadership because they keep telling people to call their senators to tell them to oppose bills or nominations, and the Democrats are like, we don't want to oppose bills.
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No. Yeah, and, like, they are calling for primarying Chuck Schumer. R slash neoliberal. Yeah. is calling for AOC to primary Chuck Schumer. Do you know how fucked things have to be for r slash neoliberal to be backing AOC against Chuck Schumer? Like, fucking Neera Tanden is agreeing with Bernie Sanders criticizing Schumer for voting for this bill? Like, this is like, I... I don't know.
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I think there maybe there are probably are people in the audience here who either like weren't paying attention enough or like don't remember or like weren't old enough to be around for like like the Bernie wars. But this is like every faction on every side of like the whole series of fights from, like, 2015 and, like, Bernie's first thing through 2020, even, like, the mid-late 2020s.
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Like, all of these people were on exactly polar opposite sides. They fucking hated each other. And they're all, like, coming together specifically to agree on a fuck Chuck Schumer campaign to the point where, like, again, like, R-slice neoliberal and, like, Neera Tanden, who are, like, have been just absolute stalwarts of the party right for ages, are, like, are backing AOC. Yeah.
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Well, and again, Chuck Schumer is the head of the Democratic caucus in the Senate.
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Yeah, he is, you know, he is unbelievably powerful. And I mean, like, the people criticizing him, he got criticized. There was a joint statement on the funding bill in the Senate from the Democratic minority leader in the fucking House. Hakeem Jeffries and the Democratic whip, Kathleen Clark and the caucus chair, Peter Aguilar.
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And like Hakeem Jeffries is as ferociously anti-socialist of a politician as there exists in all of Congress. He is like implacably hostile to even like the most like barest progressive things whatsoever. He is just staggeringly opposed to it. And they released a joint statement saying, against this, right?
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What is sort of happening here, and it's happening fucking too late to stop anything, but what's happening here is we are genuinely starting to get a kind of... And I'm seeing this sort of online. I think we've been seeing the sort of echoes of it. There's a kind of realignment happening among...
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You know, obviously, this has been being opposed by people outside the Democratic Party and by a lot of the Democratic Party's base for ages. Right. And the Democratic Party's base and also just like people who don't want to get be ruled by fascists forever have had, you know, incredibly staunch opposition to all of the collaborationism that's been happening.
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But what's happening right now is that like the actual like inside of the Democratic Party, there was a fucking rupture happening inside of people who are like. Inside of the politicos, there was a rupture happening between people who are collaborationists and people who want to be less collaborationists. And this is to the point where like Nancy Pelosi came out against this. Yeah.
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And the reason they're doing this is because a lot of these people are fucking terrified because they are looking at a couple of things. One, they're looking at what the Trump administration is doing and they're going, holy shit, like Neera Tanden is looking at them fucking just black bagging, just like just fucking black bagging Mahmoud Khalil and is going like, holy shit, we are maybe about...
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I mean, it's maybe eight steps away from that happening to me, but that's eight steps that you can fucking... Like, that's a path you can walk down. Yeah. And it's also these people that are realizing just the unbelievable anger...
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among just like regular what you would call sort of like regular liberals who aren't like like you vote for the democrats but you aren't like yeah they're not like on twitter with a blue wave emoji yeah but the thing is even even the people on twitter with a blue wave emoji and again like the r slash neoliberal people are like the most ideologically committed of all of these people
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Like even the most unhinged nerds who are like obsessed with like individual house races and like very, very specific, weird technical policy stuff that allows them to justify supporting all these unhinged policies. Even those people are turning on them.
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And the reason this is all happening, and I think this is a very, very important thing to understand about the entire political landscape going forward, is that one of the core and extremely important bases of Donald Trump's support is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, particularly the Democratic Party in New York. Right. This is Schumer. This is Eric Adams.
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This is also increasingly becoming true of people like Gavin Newsom and a lot of the sort of Democrats out of them.
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No, I don't think that's true. And my evidence for why I don't think this is true is I'm going to read some stuff from a New York Times interview they did with Chuck Schumer right after he did this.
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Okay, so in this interview with the New York Times, he gets asked about Trump cutting $400 million of funding for Columbia University for, I guess, not like publicly executing the Palestine protesters. And again, Columbia University, that is an institution that he represents in the Senate, right? Yeah. That's like his fucking thing.
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And his response was, well, obviously they didn't crush the campus protests hard enough, but cutting $400 million of spending might hurt students who didn't protest. Like maybe he's not even clear about that. Right.
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So if you read between the lines of what he's saying, his argument is that it's actually fine for Trump to do all of these fucking budget cuts of all of these people from these universities, as long as it's specifically targeting pro-Palestinian protesters, which is anyone who's vaguely pro-Palestine.
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And he also gets, you know, he gets asked about the Trump administration just straight up black bagging Mahmoud Khalil. And he says, quote, I don't know all the details yet. They're trying to come out and there'll be a court case which will determine it. If he broke the law, he should be deported. If he didn't break the law and just peacefully protested, he should not be deported.
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It's plain and simple. I mean, how is it hard to not make an equivocating statement on that? No, because he agrees with it. He thinks it's fine. He thinks it's fine. The Trump administration fucking black bagged this guy. Like, again, it was a permanent U.S. resident. He thinks that it is okay. Here's the thing. He's not even disagreeing with the actual literal black bagging.
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And I want to point this out. Even if Mahmoud Khalil legally committed a crime, that's not a fucking deportation thing.
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Like, that's the thing. Yeah. What he is saying here is that he agrees that if a permanent legal U.S.
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No, no, but that's it. But this is specifically what Schumer said. Schumer said, quote, if he broke the law, he should be deported. What his stance is, is that if someone who is a permanent U.S. resident breaks the law while at a Palestine protest, even if it is a misdemeanor, even if it is fucking jaywalking, that they should be deported. That is the Trump administration line.
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Like that is it is slightly less than Trump administration line. But that is that is a genuinely fascist political line. He just straight up agrees with the administration. He is a slight matter of degree like off from them. But like he's he just like he's collaborating because he fucking agrees with them.
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And he agrees with them both on the fact that the state should be used to destroy anyone who supports Palestine, and he agrees with them on the fucking deportation shit. Because this is one of the other things that Democrats have fundamentally aligned with Trump on since 2020, is that fundamentally they agree that we need more immigration controls and we need to do more border violence.
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You can see the evidence of this from when they fucking passed that just unhinged fascist bill to allow border state of emergencies.
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Yeah, but there's another aspect of this too, which is the thing I want to close on, which is, okay, so why have the Democrats been shifting so far to the right since 2020? Right. And specifically since after 2022, when they needed to sort of win a contestant for election.
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And the answer is that after 2020, all of their politics became about opposing the uprising because they you know, there was a period during the uprising where they were scared enough that like you get like the kente cloth shit. And they're like, you know, they're talking about like and Biden like runs on a significantly more left wing platform than like Kamala Harris did. Right. Yeah.
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Because of the specifically because of the pressure of those protests. Now, obviously, like presidential platforms, it just lies. Right. But yeah, it's just like you need to tell to get the votes. Yeah. Yeah. But on the other hand, the fundamental politics of the Democratic Party in the last half a decade has been opposing the uprising.
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It's the thing that's behind all of their turn to tough on crime politics. It's the thing behind their sort of anti-immigrant politics, the thing behind the turns they've been taking on trans politics. Right.
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And the problem with this, particularly like the anti-black, anti-crime shit and the anti-immigrant stuff, you know who else his entire politics like came into the fucking political sphere as the right wing reaction to the uprising? Oh, wait, Donald Trump.
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Donald Trump walked down the fucking escalator in 2015, immediately in the wake of the giant uprisings in Baltimore in 2015, which I think people have sort of memory holds like Ferguson in Baltimore. Right. It's like right after Baltimore that Trump fucking comes down the escalator.
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And people forget how fundamentally the right-wing reaction to those protests deranged people who even the Tea Party hadn't pushed far enough to vote for Donald Trump. It was a reaction to this.
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Yeah. Yeah. And this is the sort of fundamental thing that's going on is that there's now an entire class of people who are running the Democratic Party, right? This is fucking Chuck Schumer. He is like, I mean, quite possibly the most powerful Democrat in the country. And he is just straight up a collaborationist.
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He lost Seth Bolton, which I didn't even think was possible. Yeah. But I think there's one more important note to sort of say here, which is that, like, you know, the response to this that I've largely been seeing is everyone going, OK, we need a primary of these people. Okay, are you looking at the rate at which stuff is happening in this country?
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Like, do you think that we are going to be able to wait until the fucking primaries? Yeah, six years in some cases, right? Yeah, until we can, like, attempt to fucking do shit here? Like, absolutely not. No, like, there literally is, regardless of what you think about electoralism as a strategy, there is literally not time to wait until the next election cycle.
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Like, again, they have defunded the nuke police for the third time. So, the opposition to this isn't going to come from inside of the electoral system because, again, the Democrats are being run by collaborators and there's not enough time to fucking oust them. So, if you want this to not continue, you're going to have to find ways to do organizing outside of that system.
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We have approximately one million episodes about this. You can also go back to my You Already Know How to Organize episode. Yeah. But...
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Hell yeah. Well, this has been It Could Happen Here. Yeah, down with the collaborationists. Fuck them.
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I mean, you're eventually going to get caught, right?
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I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails.
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Yeah, well, I honestly, I think the thing that this is closer to is the other things. So I think Guantanamo Bay is the one that gets remembered, but the other part of the CIA torture program was the U.S. would just ship people off to places like Syria.
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Yeah. I also want to read a line from the, the, the legal argument that Trump's lawyers made before this judge, because it is fucking horrifying. Quote, enemy aliens are not entitled to seek any relief or protection in the country that has designated them enemies. Absent dispensation by the president. See citizens protection league.
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And then in parentheses, noting common law ruling that alien enemies have no rights, no privileges, unless by the king's special favor. So every single part of that is horrifying. Also horrifying is the fact that if you actually look up the common law citations, the next words after king's special favor is in a time of war.
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Yeah, and this is this thing where like, well, no, obviously we're not. There's no state of war. No state of war has ever been declared. But because of the way the war on terror sort of functioned, they're trying to claim these things. And then again, the fact that they're saying that anyone they declare an alien has literally no protections...
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at all in the country no rights at all can be anything can be done to them it's unless specifically the president decides that they have rights is unbelievably hideous it is pure pure state of exception total fascism shit it's fucking horrifying yeah and it's entirely unconstitutional right you have to be a radically left person to believe that humans have rights yeah
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It really seems like we're relearning one of the last lessons from the administration, which is if you can be the last person in the room with Trump, you can influence what he does.
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All of May is Mental Health Awareness Month and on the Psychology of Your 20s podcast, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about and all the science and psychology behind some of life's hardest moments and transitions.
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prepare for our conversations to go deep everything from grief to heartbreak career burnout anxiety all of the things that you would only talk about with your closest friends i spent the majority of my teenage years and my 20s just feeling absolutely terrified i had a panic attack on a conference call knowing that she had six months to live i was no longer pretending that this was my best friend
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I want you to ask yourself right now, how am I actually doing? Because it's a question that we rarely ask ourselves. All of May is actually Mental Health Awareness Month and on the psychology of your 20s, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about. Prepare for our conversations to go deep.
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I have a question for you, and I want you to be honest with me. How are you? It's a really hard question to ask. It's a harder one to answer. But taking care of our mental well-being has never been more important.
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All of May is Mental Health Awareness Month and on the Psychology of Your 20s podcast, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about and all the science and psychology behind some of life's hardest moments and transitions.
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prepare for our conversations to go deep everything from grief to heartbreak career burnout anxiety all of the things that you would only talk about with your closest friends i spent the majority of my teenage years and my 20s just feeling absolutely terrified i had a panic attack on a conference call knowing that she had six months to live i was no longer pretending that this was my best friend
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So this Mental Health Awareness Month, take that extra bit of care of yourself and your brain. Listen to The Psychology of Your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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So this Mental Health Awareness Month, take that extra bit of care of your well-being. Listen to The Psychology of Your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I have a question for you, and I want you to be honest with me. How are you? It's a really hard question to ask, it's a harder one to answer, but taking care of our mental well-being has never been more important.
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All of May is Mental Health Awareness Month and on the Psychology of Your 20s podcast, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about and all the science and psychology behind some of life's hardest moments and transitions.
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prepare for our conversations to go deep everything from grief to heartbreak career burnout anxiety all of the things that you would only talk about with your closest friends i spent the majority of my teenage years and my 20s just feeling absolutely terrified i had a panic attack on a conference call knowing that she had six months to live i was no longer pretending that this was my best friend
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Yeah, I mean, I got a lot of criticism and people said, well, that proves he's a huge idiot from a, you know, like, look, you know, he bought it for whatever, $44 billion and now it's worth like eight cents. It's not worth eight cents. But, you know, it was essentially to, you know, buy freedom of expression.
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Patricia's would have kind of been cool.
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Because Patricia is one of those names. I mean, that's the generation above us. There's no Patricia's that are millennials or younger.
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Imagine you meet a 15 year old and she's like, hey, I'm Patricia. There's no way. Like that name doesn't happen to her.
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It was actually a word that makes sense why it's kind of hard, you know?
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It's so weird how like certain names are like in certain time brackets. Like actually Justin and Kristen, very millennial. Are there any 65 year old Kristen's? Maybe they're like, oh, well, they wouldn't spell it. Or 10 year olds. Yeah.
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Or Justin, do you know any 70 year old Justins? No. Justin Timberlake was like the first Justin born, I think.
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It literally would have. Okay, so we're just going to ask some questions. And then, you know, it's funny. I always think about like...
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with you people don't realize how deep you are bro people think i'm a dumb ass no i don't think people do not think you're dumb there's nothing well no actually people would love to be like she's just a dumb blonde like people who don't know you but i don't think people who pay any attention to think you're dumb but i don't think people know how deep you are like you and i dissect shit for a while well i take it too far you always take it too far i take it too far but we but we love getting
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Let's get you to try to say it.
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We love getting really deep. And I think that's also obviously like why we're really close and why we talk all day long.
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Oh my God, we text so much.
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We're solving problems all day long. But then beyond that, like when we're together, like if we have like a little bit of drinks in us or whatever, like you and I like dissect shit. But I feel like with all the stuff you do, like a lot of people don't get like the really deep side of you. Yeah, that's true. So I'm going to get deep, bro. Not even that deep, honestly.
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It's just conversation so that we can like chat and elaborate on things. Okay. There's no particular order to these. So I didn't go importance to not important. Let's just kind of go through it. All right. So one of the most incredible things I think about you, this isn't me reading a script. It's me trying to stay ahead. And also bear with me. I have really bad ADHD.
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Whoever's editing this, you might have to edit it down quite a bit. Okay, one of the most impressive things for me about you is your ability to make quick decisions. Was it always there? Was it learned? And when was the first time you were like, wow, trusting my gut really works?
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Do you feel like you learned that from like finding fame at such a young age? Because I don't know, the way you make decisions is really impressive.
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Oh, well, you just said it really easy, right?
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Yeah. And you're really good right away being like, no, that doesn't work for me. You don't ever like because, you know, most people like, oh, should I do that? Or what do you think about that? Like you never play that game.
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I totally agree. It's the hardest thing for a lot of people. I mean, that sets like the biggest boundary too.
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He knows what's up too.
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Okay, here's another thing. My goodness, I wrote these like a four-year-old.
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No, I didn't put this out to Instagram. Remember I said to you, because I was going to say to all of our friends on Instagram, I was going to be like, what do you guys want me to ask Kristen or whatever? But I just had a feeling coming off of like the last big podcast you do, it would all be about guys or whatever. And it's like, can we talk about something else for the love of God?
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Oh my God. And they're all very catered to you, to how I feel about you and things that I want people to know about you. Oh, that's sweet. I really want people to see like lots of sides to you. Okay. Making experiences happen for yourself is kind of like this thing. I think you're really good at making experiences happen. And here's where I see it all the time. We travel a lot together.
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And you know how sometimes you'll go on a vacation, maybe you just lay by the pool or you just do the spa stuff or you have a long meal. You are the queen of experiences. And Scoot and I talk about this all the time because we go places. You want to go... shooting or whatever the fuck they call it. And like, you want to go out and like do all these activities and explore where we are.
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I didn't do that for a long time. Like, okay. And so my question with that is, is it purely selfish to experience life and have no regrets later in life? Or is it about having the time with the people you love or a combination of both? Like, what do you think your, your passion for like wanting to go out and like experience so many things? And I'm not just talking like ski shooting or whatever.
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You're big on experiences.
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Cause a lot of people don't, I mean, I know a lot of people do do that kind of stuff, but I think most people, when you travel with your friends, even it's like, let's get drunk in the pool and just like sit around over that. Yeah. And you're very good about, okay. Like, okay. Tomorrow's schedule is that at first I was like, what the fuck is going on?
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We could get drunk all day and like, we could just like lounge and like we, whatever, but like, you're good at that. And it's like, and now it's changed me. Like when I go on vacation, like I want to have like an itinerary. I want to like experiencing when I leave a city, I want to really feel like I like took it in, you know, and saw things or whatever.
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We've gone to the coolest places. We've gone to some cool places. Okay. This one's a fun one. Okay. Do you think in general, do you think your very first love sets the tone for the, your romantic life? Or do you think that's a thing? The first time you feel love or get your heart broken, does it have a big impact on how you view love in the future? Because this is a big thing for me.
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No, I'm totally with you. But I think it's really interesting because, well, for me, I mean, I was gay. And so I was trying to pretend I was straight in high school. So like my first loves were always like girls. So it was, again, more like a best friendship. You know, so mine was always like, it didn't feel real, right? But I always think about those things.
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It's like, you could, like, I always think about like... The first time a girl gives herself to like a guy and she's young, it's like the responsibility that that guy carries to really kind of like, and I'm not trying to get too deep, but like set the tone for the rest of that girl's life. Like if you took a girl, we can just talk. If you took a girl's virginity, right.
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And then you just totally ghosted her. Like, that's all you wanted. Like that could fail. fuck someone up for a really long time.
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Or even, it doesn't even have to be the first romantic love. Like a parent could fuck up your idea of love for a really long time.
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Right.
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Did Johnny break your heart or forget?
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That was the one he moved.
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Sexy Kelsey.
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Lainey. That bitch. No, Lainey's chill, right?
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But you think about that thing when you're so young and like the first time you really like, not even sex, just like kind of trust someone enough to be your boyfriend, even if you're like 13 or 12, like it could either ruin you or it could like set up your life to be like beautiful as far as love goes, you know?
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Cause I think that, I think your first heartbreak hits like no other, like the first time you get your heart broken is
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Boom.
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Like you were protecting yourself.
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You were saying that yesterday. We went to dinner. It's like when she got there, Jackson and Sailor were like going crazy in the car, right?
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So you've always wanted to be in the driver's seat since then.
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Come on out Johnny. Johnny's coming to my show in Chicago.
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buy tickets to the Chicago show Johnny will be there but I and I guarantee I mean I don't know Johnny we've talked a little bit about this or whatever but yeah I bet Johnny loved you and also like you're so young yeah but I'm not even thinking about Johnny I'm thinking about like you your experience can change from like just whatever happens with that and it's so interesting I think like later in life I do think actually if I'm being honest the first time I had like a gay experience I mean it was bad I'll be honest remember I hooked up with like a tennis instructor oh yeah oh my god
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I hope you guys, I wasn't even 16. This is like bad. And by the way, like, yeah, he was 38. That was my first gay experience. And here's the thing. When I think about that, it kind of gives me chills or whatever. it was, that's disgusting and the most creepy thing ever. But thank God he didn't do anything weird, you know, cause that could have changed everything where I didn't trust or whatever.
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But then they were so cute at dinner.
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It could have been so worse. So thank God. Yeah. Okay. Um, yeah, that's weird. And I've like also tried to like look for him. It was like, no, I really can't find him. No, nothing. Okay. That's bad. If the next 10 years of your life were a chapter in a book, what would the chapter or what do you see the chapter being about?
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And you're all about, Kristen's so good about kind of manifesting and setting the tone for where she wants things to go. And it does really good for you. But what is the next chapter of your book?
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They were really cute last night. They're like kind of at that age now where they're like, they're starting to feel like almost like the teen years. Yeah. Like they're fun. They're like part of the crew. Yeah.
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Isn't that such a good place to be though, where you're kind of at that place where you're like cruise control is a good way of putting it. Like you just want to like, I'm so there, bro. All I want to do is enjoy life now in every aspect. Like I just want to laugh. I want to like appreciate the things that I'm doing.
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Like I did all that grinding in business for so long and you're chasing and you, and then you get to a place where you're like, I really want to enjoy now.
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And I also know it's a, it's a privilege to be in a spot where like, you know, I started doing like real estate stuff at a really young age and I always thought about the future and I always knew my dream was to really slow down later in life and like really enjoy things. And it's funny, like you and I kind of have that same philosophy on life.
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Like I want the next chapter of my life to be like really chill. So I love that.
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I love that for you. This isn't about me. Shut up, Justin. Be quiet.
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Okay. This one's fun. And I want to know this about you. And I want you to be really honest because I'm like curious, you know, if you're like, if you were Patricia, you know, and Laguna Beach never happened. Okay. If failing didn't matter and making or losing money didn't matter, what would you work on doing? Like a dream you'd love to chase if you had nothing, like absolutely nothing to lose.
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Well, I think that's what I'm actually trying to get at, sweetheart, is like it doesn't have to be cool.
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Actually, that's interesting. Yeah, it's true. Like you really have done a bit of, I feel the same way too. I think that looking back on my life, I think my life was bigger than I ever imagined it to be. I feel really content. But when I ask that question, I think about, is there anything that like,
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think what i've missed out on in life is having the really simple time of life like i look at people who like a pilgrim or like an amish person or whatever and sometimes i'm like i wish i could do that you know what i who i'm jealous of like all the time like i go to the same like starbucks coffee all the time whenever i get actual starbucks and i see people like working they're like really happy i know it's not like a dream job or whatever but like i've never been
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in a work situation where it was just like clock in clock out and then your life is kind of chill. Then you go home and you like, don't have to think about work till the next day when you clock in or whatever. Like sometimes I fan fantasize about like having a real simple life.
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They're like little adults. Also, I think it's good. Like it's actually a good idea. Like for kids who need a lot of stimulation because there's so much to watch and it's like,
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Everything I've ever done was over the top, the celebrity hair, starting businesses, like trying to buy and sell real estate that would make me a lot of money. And I'm always like stressed and crunching numbers and all that stuff. And, um,
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well, maybe now you're kind of just doing it then. Now you're just kind of going into that like slow, enjoy your time right now. Yeah.
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I guess that question is good for, better for people who like maybe feel more stuck. And what would you do if you could do anything that you wanted to do?
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Yeah. I don't know. And just going for it and making it happen.
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You guys have to go back and YouTube it because it's the cutest thing ever. You were so cute actually though. Thank you.
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Yeah. I was thinking about that with Jackson. Yeah. You're waiting for the next thing. Like it's actually really good. Like I have bad ADHD and like, I love those kinds of meals actually, because it like keeps things moving.
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I love dinner and a show. Jackson lives for it.
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that's so cute what about jackson i'm looking for like our next con jackson is her kid like i love going to concerts with him it's like last night he was like showing me all these concerts the most random things to him like super random let's try it to chicago to see what was the name i don't know it's like these young bands and i'm like no i'm gonna wait for like imagine dragons or whatever and then camden's like let's go to sisa and kendrick lamar okay i don't know one kendrick lamar song
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Okay. What do you want to be remembered for? Even if it's from people who know you publicly or the closest people in your life. Like when you think, like we all think, do this thing. Like, have you ever thought about your own funeral?
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I always like thinking about like, what would people say? Who would cry the hardest? Like, yeah.
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At my funeral. He wanted to go a long time ago. You guys, he was tired. It's all right. He was achy. You would pat me in the casket.
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No, but what do you want to be remembered for?
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That's important to you, right?
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Wait, can I tell you something really quick? Yeah. You've done that, bro. Thanks, bro. That's like what you're known for, man. When people talk to me about you, they're like, she just makes me feel like I can do anything. Like you've done that for people, right?
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And the rest of the people who like complain about it, like, first of all, that's just dork behavior. Like you're not happy. You know, if you're like being like her again, why is she talking? Because she's human. And someone asked her a question.
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Oh my God. That's right. Oh, okay. If you could change one thing about yourself, what would it be? What's something about your personality? Okay. Let's go deep here for a second. What's something about your personality that you've thought maybe you should work on, even if it meant kind of changing who you know yourself to be?
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No, not necessarily. Well, no, I think as your best friend, I have things that like, I wonder if you would want to, but I don't want you to change them. I wonder what you think. Cause I know my things for me, like, you know, patients or like my things, but yours, I'm curious. Cause to me, you're perfect. Thank you.
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That's the girl, right?
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You think it takes a minute for you to warm up to people?
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I'm always shocked how comfortable you are around people immediately. Really? I think that's like one of the weirdest things about you and I. Oh, interesting. When we meet people, you and I are so comfortable right away.
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No, I think you 100% are.
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Yeah. Yeah. Not that you would like let down, you're just so like warm and smiling. Well, I'm not a bitch.
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No, you're definitely guard. Even as like one of your closest friends and we've become so much closer after like the past six years or whatever. But yeah, you always definitely like had a little boundary up or like a guard up. But like, I loved that about you. It was so interesting. But I think that like, that's like your little armor or whatever. Yeah.
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Yeah. And you've been hurt in the past, you know, like you could have been walked all over.
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Really?
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Oh, yeah.
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It's funny, too, because even with that, like I was kind of thinking it's like if you don't really have anything to change about yourself, like because even all of our quirks and stuff like make us who we are. That's what I mean. Yeah.
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Because sometimes I would say things like, I wish I didn't talk so much or I wish I wasn't so like, I didn't. And I'm not saying this to act like I'm the sweetest person. I wish I didn't care about other people.
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Yeah. And I'm like a people pleaser. So those are things for me. But if I change those, I wouldn't be the same person. Exactly. So with you, it's like I was wondering if there is something because I actually.
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Yeah. All right. I'm bored with that question already. Okay. Would you say that not caring what people think or say about you has a lot to do with your years of success? Like if you spent time caring how people would react to what you did, would it have held you back from winning?
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You're so much cooler with like your music. I wonder if your kids help a little bit with that. Like you still have like Young.
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Okay, calm down. Sorry. But like the stuff that you send me is like so edgy. Like you go out sometimes and you don't tell me. Like I feel like you're at like underground club.
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Well, and with that, I think like, what is the opposite that like you're supposed to just disappear? Like, I don't understand.
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But I think that that's the thing too. It's like, cause I'm always shocked. Like, you just keep going. I noticed as your friend, like how much pushback you'll get on things. You get so much love and you get so much attention and people, you know, people who love you, they love you or whatever. But like some of the pushback, it's so fucking weird with you, dude.
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It's always been like that. But it's 100% because like something about you triggers something in them. Otherwise, why would you care? I have never scrolled social media and wanted to say something negative because I just simply don't care. If somebody said something that I 100% disagree with, just keep scrolling, like, oh, disagree and keep scrolling.
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So it's like, I think that it's always something like when you trigger something in somebody.
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Hot chicks can do that. Tail is all this time.
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I think you're better than most people because I think that that is why you had like... That's why you've had like the staying power of like, you've had like a 20 plus year career because I really think at the end of the day, like you don't- I can let it roll off my back. This stuff doesn't keep you up at night or whatever. Like, but I do think like, it's like a boxing ring for you.
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Like every single day sometimes with the shit that's happening, you know?
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Yeah. Like I think you handle it really well. And as your best friend, are you getting emotional?
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I'm obsessed with music. Oh my God. You guys, Spotify will tell you how much you use it or whatever. We were all comparing. Well, I don't use Spotify, but I use iTunes or whatever. Kristen's number, like you listen year round. I'm in the top 2%. You listen year round.
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Oh my God. I get so excited when you get a little bit emotional.
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Oh, no, but you get a lot of shit, but I think that it's, it never knocks you down. You just keep going. You keep doing your thing. And I'm sorry, but can we just be honest for a second? You're really fucking interesting. Even if you were like, she's annoying, like whatever. Cause like, you're like, so the typical, we're both fucking annoying.
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If somebody just like dipped in on our conversation, we're like the most annoying California. Like we say like so much, like I get that we're annoying, but we're deep. Okay. But the thing with you is you're really interesting. I think people are always like, what's she going to do next? Like, who's she going to date next?
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Like, you're kind of like, you're a wild card, but then you're also so grounded. And like all the things that you've done are very strategic. Like you've always really taken care of yourself. You've made your life like amazing. Like you could have been a flash in the pan, bro.
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Well, and the reason I bring that conversation up is not to like, I mean, I'll hype you up every single day of my life, but like for people listening is I really think that there's something important. They're like, you have to just be you and do what you want to do.
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And everyone always says that it's not like exciting advice or whatever, but it's like, I really think you do a good job at just like doing what you want to do. And it's like, you throw stuff out there, you say things and like, you're not gonna let people like beat down your personality.
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Everything online, I have just started realizing, not just started realizing, but like really made a mental note of it. Like the elections fucked me up. Like during the elections, I was reading everything online. I was like going like left, right, center, like reading everything. And it was making me crazy. And then all of a sudden when you, I really tuned it out.
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Like Scoot and I made a thing like no news on in the house. Like I'm not looking at...
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anything that I scroll if they're talking about politics or whatever like swipe by it and the same thing with like it's so easy to get like sucked into that vortex but then when you put it away like the world's fucking normal which I think is the point I think they want us to be sucked in and just become dumber and dumber a hundred percent like put your phone down so that we just start like because that's the thing we're robots
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Yeah. And when you start paying attention to all those things that first of all, we can't change, like it's going to happen. We're on a ride, you know, we're not stopping the ride or whatever, but like the more we fight or whatever, then they can just control us. They like that.
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Yeah. And stop fighting with each other also. That's the dumbest thing too.
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Okay. Well then that's good for our last question here. Okay. Do you love yourself and how did you get there? And, or how do you plan to get there? I think you love yourself. If you're there, is there any advice you can give to people who have a hard time loving themselves or putting themselves first?
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I actually don't listen to a lot of music as much as I love it. Like in the car loud. I love watching TV. Yeah, you guys are big TV people. I think you're a sicko for not watching TV. I mean, TV is so good now. You're missing out on so many good shows.
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Love yourself. What did that feel like?
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So what you were afraid, like, I don't know where this is going. I don't know.
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LA is so scary. Like I'm not an LA hater. I grew up in Southern California. I love parts of California. When I say LA, like Hollywood in particular, there's great people in Hollywood. Also, I never want to talk shit because there's great people in Hollywood.
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But the overall, like it is so, like if I had a kid who wanted to move to Hollywood, the way that I would handcuff that kid to my driveway and be like, you're not going anywhere near that town because you, thank God you were strong. Because even with you, the way that like it kind of like, tore you down a little bit or like the relationships you think are normal in Hollywood.
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Yeah. And like the after parties and just the nasty weird things that the longer you're there, you start to think that it's normal. Yeah. And it's like, you have to be a strong person to get through Hollywood.
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I mean, you see it all the time, how Hollywood just destroys people, you know? And we think like, oh, they were, they had an addiction or like whatever. They didn't, they didn't make it in the business or whatever. It's like, no, that town will fuck you up.
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Like, it takes the strongest person and, like, I don't know. The friends thing is, like, a real thing, too. Like, wouldn't you say, like, looking back, you know, because we both had our 20s in Hollywood, and I look back on people I used to hang out with in my 20s that, like, I couldn't even sit in the same room with now.
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Like, the conversations and the things we used to talk about, like, so vapid that, of course, we were binge drinking and, like, just getting fucked up so we could, like, even get along with these...
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What was your last show?
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dorks that you're hanging out not dorks because they're supposedly like the cool people or whatever but it was like it was so shallow and not real and now later in my life you know everything about what I want I know you want it's like I want depth and I want like connection and I want like and if I don't have that with someone not to be rude but I don't want to be around them well right that's how I am maybe we really value it so much now too as adults because we didn't have it
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Gossip Girl.
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Yeah. Yeah. It was like an insecurity. Yeah. Well, and deep down, we love to party, bro.
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I like no regrets there though. Like, I feel like I like, I'm so glad I got all those years out of my system or whatever. Because certain personalities, like, you really have to do it. Like, I love to party. I was watching this movie the other night. Like, I immediately texted Chris. I'm like, you have to watch this movie. It's the most fucked up movie ever. It's called, like, Anora or something.
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But it's, like, a party girl thing. And I'm like, Chris, you have to watch this. It's going to make you want to party so hard.
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But I think that you'll always have that.
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That's sweet. Thanks, bro. You really gave me all that I wanted. You know, that was incredible. I can't wait to have you back next time. Maybe she'll be back on the show next week. Patricia Cavallari, ladies and gentlemen.
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It's a beautiful little flurry.
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Um, no, so we were talking about like, whenever we do it together, whenever, um, I'm on her podcast for like fun things that we can do. Like we want to like, we love like laughing, like jokes and stuff. So like our, some of our ideas like need a little bit more production. Right.
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So today we were just talking about like, I'm like, let me kind of interview you in a way that I think like some of your audience would want to hear the questions. And we're just going to talk like friends or whatever. And I'm not going to let her give me like PR answers. Like, bitch, if you start doing that. Well, actually like that.
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And yeah.
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I kind of get what you're saying, but no, I don't think that you will like with, Like, you know what I'm saying?
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Well, and you get asked a lot of the same thing over and over. So even if you do give the PR answer because you don't want to throw someone under the bus or you don't want to like talk about somebody, it still gets blown out of context. Yeah, it does. And you talk a lot. You talk a lot. Yeah.
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Well, I think that you doing your own podcast has changed a lot.
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Yeah. And she's good at getting like good answers out of people.
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And you respect her. You love her. She's here in Nashville. So it just kind of worked. But yeah, that turned into a whole thing. And then people like, oh, look.
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Because I know what happens. But to be outside, people are probably like, Kristen wanted to go on and talk about those things. No, you're asked. And you're also one of those people like, you can't lie.
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Like if somebody's asking you something, you're going to be honest. And you didn't give any major details. Whatever. I just think that that's like who you are. Like that's, you're just.
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Everyone wants to hang out with us. I know. Go away.
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Well, right before we started this today, cause I was like saying to Kristen, I was like, I don't want to do any of those fricking questions that like create some sort of buzz like that. And Kristen was like, I can't be written about in the tabloids like for a while. Yeah.
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That's actually a good point. I think that's something that, that is a good save right there. Cause I also kind of was thinking while we were talking about this, I'm like, people are going to think like, cause we've said this before. We're like, Kristen avoids the taboos or whatever. And I think to the outside world, they're like, well then why didn't she stop talking?
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I don't think people would really get it unless they were in the situation that you're in. Cause you do say anything and it turns into something. Right. But you were recently being like, I've always been this person though. If somebody asked me something, I'm going to say what's on my mind. I don't hide things like whatever. And you did it a little bit more and then you,
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She was messing up a word like over and over in my head. I was like, Oh my God, just skip it. I know what you're trying to say. And then she like stopped. And then she texted me. She's like, can you pronounce that word for me? So that I wrote it back to her. What was the word?
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Oh, really?
Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari
Talking about Guys to Stay Relevant with Justin Anderson
I can't think of the word that I mess up all the time, but there are some. I mean, well, with my lisp, I mess up a lot. You know, there's certain words that I kind of skirt around. I'll try and skip certain words.
Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari
Talking about Guys to Stay Relevant with Justin Anderson
All right, let me pull up my notes a little bit. Okay. So ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Let's Be Honest. Lesbian Honest. Lesbian Honest with your two favorite lesbians, Justin and...
Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari
Talking about Guys to Stay Relevant with Justin Anderson
Patricia Elizabeth Cavallari wait let's start off with that did you guys have we ever talked about this on your podcast no wait do you guys know that Kristen was almost named Patricia like her name your mom told me this story and I don't think I've ever belly laughed harder we were at my house in the kitchen and your mom was like well you know I almost named Kristen Patricia Fell over.
Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari
Talking about Guys to Stay Relevant with Justin Anderson
I thought it was the funniest thing in the world. Because here's the thing. Think about this. Your whole life would have been different if you were a Patricia. My whole life would be different. Hey guys, it's Patricia Cavallari and you're watching MTV.
Let's Be Honest with Kristin Cavallari
Talking about Guys to Stay Relevant with Justin Anderson
But you know what I was thinking about? You probably would have changed the trajectory for all Patricia's.