Tommy Vietor
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a take so bad it might get you in thrown in jail uh in sarah longwell's defense she was right there i mean seltzer has historically been right she has been someone who's been willing to put out polls that did not match the herded class but yeah it ended up being very very wrong look we we all saw we were getting on a plane to uh to vegas from phoenix and we were uh we were cheering
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I love making up your own system. It's like a it's like a degenerate gambler. It's like I always hit on red sevens.
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I mean, it wasn't an original thought. It was sort of the dumbest thing you could pull for in the moment.
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That guy's, I think, I believe, fully red-pilled now. Oh, that checks out. That checks.
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Yeah. Yeah. Pretty white. That one wins for me because it's when you when you think of the most ridiculous theory, Joe Biden should not run for reelection as racist. I think is number one.
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Right. The Commission on Presidential Debates was formed in 1987. This wasn't like the founding fathers. What are we talking about here?
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I think if Travis had just left out that one clause about the makeup of the consultant class, he had a great point, which is we didn't do great with young men this cycle.
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My favorite part is when Vivek pretends he's an equal partner in this Doge thing. Yeah. Yeah, just like he's like, you know, Elon walks around with his kid on his shoulders at all times. That's a little silly guy.
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You'll be on the lawsuit. I don't like your collective tone.
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Look, Joe Biden shouldn't have run again. The hard part about this was what people don't remember is in the 2020 primary, there was also a conversation about Joe Biden's age. I think we all were on the side that he was probably too old to be running then. Said as much on the show. He won the primary. That made them very angry. They didn't speak to us for four years.
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And so in the midterms happened, I think Joe Biden took the wrong message from in 2022 that Democratic success in a midterm when a bunch of completely. Outside the mainstream, crazy Republicans ran for Senate seats and lost like Dr. Oz, that it meant that the White House was strong, that he should run for election. And that was some sort of indication of his political strength.
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Obviously, it was not. But I felt like from my position, like I was wrong in 2020. Who am I going to tell the incumbent president not to run for president? in that moment outside some sort of like major event or indication.
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We talked a thousand times about the polling about his age, concerns about it. We would constantly ask the question, how do you fix this? And I think almost every one of those conversations started with, I don't know that it is fixable, but if it is, here are the things I would try to do. They didn't really try to do any of those things because obviously there's been all this reporting now that
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Keeping a full schedule was challenging for the president, et cetera, et cetera. So we don't have to belabor all of this, but that's kind of the backstory that people don't remember.
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Yeah, it's funny that Elon Musk does a lot of business in China, a lot of factories, a lot of Teslas would want restrictions on U.S. outbound investment in China to get knocked out of the bill.
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Yeah, the only problem with it is it's got to be some percentage performance art, right? They know what they're doing. They know this is so crazy and ridiculous it's going to get me clicks.
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Right. That's that's like the tour. I know this is new to you, but yeah, it's not new. Right.
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Not anti-vaccine, I just think it will kill you, which I will repeat to everyone I see. Boy, do I feel safe.
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This is- This is a good example of where we need members of Congress to for once be really disciplined at his confirmation hearing and not give speeches and just be like prosecutors narrowing in, asking him question after question to try to get him to say what he really thinks. Because he's also said that he thinks the polio vaccine killed many, many more people than polio ever did.
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You know, he says things like he has this veneer of just asking questions or I'm, you know, I just want more data or research. But underneath that are really radical views and they just got to tease him out of them.
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Oh, that would be great. He'll be good. He'll be very good on this. By the way, if the J6 committee goes to jail, we should produce a song with them.
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I think vaccines for me. No. Oh, well, not to the fun. Take this. Not dogs and cats.
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No, that's fine. I imagine more of a rusted root, Dan, if we're being honest.
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For love it. I mean. Selling nitrous balloons and.
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Oh, no. I think Kristi Noem is a potential favorite to be the vice presidential nominee. Electoral benefits of South Dakota? There are none. But I do think the Trump campaign knows that abortion is likely to be the single biggest headwind for their campaign. They want diversity on the ticket. That could be gender based. That could also be racial diversity.
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I think they'll ultimately decide that Donald Trump is going to need to peel off some of the suburban women that he has lost to Joe Biden. They're going to need to try to push back on concerns about stripping away abortion access. She's terrible on the policy, but I do think they're going to view it as an identity. This is a great take. This is a totally fine take.
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This was before the puppy killing thing came out. Key context. The puppy murder. And this was me and Brian Tyler Cohen ranking 10 different candidates. So we had to make a case for everyone we chose.
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Well, the adrenochrome was really flying around at that point.
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Squeeze their nuts while you judge them so they don't move.
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All of us are really taking this well and not at all getting defensive about our taste. I didn't go off for five minutes about how I was on a different show.
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Political science isn't science. And I think you have to allow for uncertainty. And when you speak in such definitive ways, I think you really leave yourself open to being punched down or up. Yeah.
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Maybe the one from the live stream he did that night where he was like, ah.
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Next year, I want to skip this recording again so that I cannot be held accountable once again. I somehow got on a list that has led me to get dozens of cold emails from random tech consultants. I want to find that list. destroy it and destroy whoever created it.
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I think what happened is I decided to come in just being a jackass with jokes and you guys were serious and it kind of changed the vibe.
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The irony of you saying this, Dan, is you write books. I wrote books.
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Unbelievable. We thought we'd get a little more mileage out of them, but it turns out it's short but sweet. Like the Viagra of Etsy purchases, you know, one-time deal.
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You know it doesn't make you feel good. What's the goal? Talk to me.
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Who are the big CRM managers? Salesforce. Salesforce. Coming for them, coming for your tower. I want to talk to more smart people off air, experts. Talk to a really smart guy about Sudan and Somaliland today. I could elaborate if you guys want to hear more about it. I love it. Classic Tommy resolution.
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It's really helpful to talk to these very smart, nerdy, nice people and just do it to get smarter on background. That's the thing I like doing. I want to get good at using AI tools. I tried to use ChatGPT to write me a list of resolutions and I failed. So I want to get better at that.
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So Tommy, experts and AI. Experts. Maybe there's some overlap there.
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Yeah, we'll see who wins. Let us know. Pick your fighter. Finally, I've been reading a book about mindfulness meditation, but I haven't been doing it. I think it'd be good to do it. It's good for you. Okay.
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And beautiful performances. And the performances. Incredible.
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Well, that's just premature. If only, if only. You got the top right, you're just wrong. Not the primary, the general.
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Who was the first one? The first one was the worst, right?
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Hi, it's great to see you guys. How are you? You provide me some emotional lift and relief when I listen to you because you're past the terrible big election. And I know it's not great, but it could be a lot worse.
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I feel like I've said literally everything I have to say about this election a hundred times over and there's nothing new. You know, this is the part of the election where like there's no debates left. There's no big kind of, you know, there's no October surprise yet. There's just a relentless series of campaign events and interviews and speeches. And it's like, which ones move the needle?
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We'll never know. How are you feeling just in of yourself at the moment? I feel horrible because the fact that it's a tied race is just hard to stomach and understand, given all that we've seen from Donald Trump over the last nine years or whatever it's been. I think with respect to sort of where the campaign is, I mean, look, I talk to smart people on the on the Harris campaign all the time.
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They, I think, all sincerely and honestly believe that this thing is tied. There are seven key battleground states and all the public polls and all the private data we're seeing has it within the margin of error. And so what's really scary is sometimes elections in the U.S. kind of break one way or the other in the last two weeks based on something that's in the news.
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You know, it could be a letter from Jim Comey scolding Hillary Clinton like 2016. It could be Bibi Netanyahu bombing a new country. Maybe we'll bomb Jordan.
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What have they been up to? You know, King Abdullah, you're up. So I don't know. But that's the stuff that makes me worried.
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Yeah, I mean, it couldn't be any more clear that Bibi Netanyahu wants Donald Trump to win. Most Israeli voters want Donald Trump to win. It's profoundly frustrating, I think, that Joe Biden's Gaza policy has been terrible. Since the very first day when he flew over and hugged Bibi Netanyahu, I thought that was a mistake, just sort of knowing the character of that man.
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And if you look at what's played out over the last year, I mean, I don't know about you guys, but I think my Twitter algorithm has decided that I want to constantly be fed the most horrific images from northern Gaza imaginable. And it just like shakes you to your core every single day seeing what's happening and knowing the U.S. complicity in that.
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I think the problem for Kamala Harris is that Joe Biden is the president and she just doesn't have a ton of space to break from him, especially on foreign policy. I think having talked to people kind of in her orbit, I think she shares a lot of the frustration that you and I might have about Netanyahu and what he's doing.
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I just think it's very hard for her to break from her current boss, for lack of a better word.
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Boy, that's a good question. I mean, I hadn't heard all those quotes, but I like them. They nailed it. He's going to struggle to refute a lot of these allegations. Yeah, he did say he would like to, you know, grab women by the private parts. I think what I think you're likely to see from Trump is just more kind of overt meddling in British politics.
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You know, I mean, elevating people like Farage, inviting him to the White House. Kind of getting reform on the map even more. There's this weird connective tissue in the right wing in America where we're like they have these conferences where they invite Liz Trust to speak. They're the only people inviting Liz Trust anywhere. You know, it's like it's Bolsonaro down in Brazil.
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It's Viktor Orban in Hungary. They all come together and kind of. exchange authoritarian best practices. So I imagine, you know, Trump has a long memory. He does not forget slights. I think he wants to be liked by the UK. He views you guys as one of the kind of places that I think he cares about his opinion over there. He wants, you know, the royal family to like him.
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But yeah, it would make me a little nervous.
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I don't think so. I saw these reports. I mean, 100 people knocking on doors. It's nice. Thank you. Appreciate it. But it's a drop in the bucket. But you're right. Elon Musk is currently holding a contest where he's giving away a million dollars every day
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to voters in certain key swing states who are registered to vote and who signed his dumb little petition, which pretty clearly seems to be in violation of election law, which says you cannot incentivize or pay people to register to vote, which is clearly what his plan is there.
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Oh, yeah. You think the Labour Party tips were like, here's what you do. You let the other guys be in charge for 14 years. They ruin everything. They put a literal buffoon in charge of the entire party.
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They were like cicadas. They just did their time. Real quick sports question that I promise I'll answer. Okay. Do you guys follow American football at all?
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We keep having a London game. Yeah, we just keep... Yeah. Are you offended by the fact that, like, this past weekend, my New England Patriots played against the Jacksonville Jaguars? Two of the worst teams in the entire NFL played some of the worst football I've ever seen. It felt worse than when Barack Obama gave the Queen an iPod. It felt insulting.
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Well, the NFL is trying to expand into the European market. So there keeps being a London game every weekend. Yeah. But it's just been shit.
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Oh, yeah, I think he might have gotten some old DVDs, too. We suck to giving presents. But what could a Labour and Democratic Party line? I mean, imagine if we really coordinated and tried to make this upcoming COP climate summit. Yeah, something, you know, and actually did something on climate change. That would be amazing.
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Imagine if there was some sort of effort to work together, not just the US and UK, but nationally on this sort of global refugee crisis and migration and figuring out ways so we can burden share across every country.
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to help people, so you don't have these right-wing neo-Nazi parties demagoguing the issue and popping up in places like Austria, where you really don't want to see a right-wing neo-Nazi party. Germany. There's a couple of things.
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Yeah, I mean, it was some sort of, you know, global minimum tax. I know that was an idea that was floated early on in the Biden administration. But you're right. I mean, it's funny when every multinational just sort of pops up and is suddenly headquartered in Ireland. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Not sure how this works.
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I love the Coco hangover stories. You have like the occasional good one and they're always funny and they're always, you always paint a picture that just feels very familiar. Thank you. I think, well, sadly, there will be relief, but that relief will only really fully set in after Kamala Harris is sworn into office, given all the shenanigans we saw from Donald Trump the last time.
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So I think there will be relief from a lot of quarters about kind of dealing with this unique threat that Trump poses and hopefully just finally being able to move on from this guy because he is starting to look really old. He's kind of losing the thread. I don't know if you guys saw – He did a town hall Q&A the other day where he just ended up doing a DJ set for 38 minutes. Yeah.
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Where he's playing like cats and shit. It was crazy.
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No. Well, here's the challenge. I think that right now Republicans are on track to take the Senate, which will block sort of any legislative efforts Kamala Harris might have. It's not clear to me yet how the House of Representatives voting is going to shake out. But there's a chance that, you know, it could be Kamala Harris versus the fully Republican Congress, which is just going to suck.
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Because what Republicans do is they say government is bad. They highlight the ways it has failed or has not helped you vote. And they use that cynicism to drive people away from the Democratic Party, the people who support institutions and believe in government and fair taxation and yada, yada, yada. And so, you know, we're going to be in for a rough road, I think, either way.
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I think, though, you know, the American system, like the president, is just so powerful, especially on foreign policy, that'll be an enormous relief to get rid of Trump if we can. But knock on wood.
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Yes. I mean, she will have far more leeway to do things on foreign policy than in any other place. I hope that means more diplomacy. I hope that means getting back into talks with the Iranians about their nuclear program. I hope we can fix our idiotic Cuba policy in the United States. We've embargoed this island for decades now for no reason.
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And now, you know, I think they're in the midst of a multi-day blackout because there's no power there.
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for people so there's just a lot of things we could do a prioritization of human rights trying to you know continue to build up alliances whether it's NATO or the EU or other places um and just you know keep our friends our friends yeah tell me um thank you so much for joining us on Podside of the UK we are keeping everything crossed yes we will join you on this very long dreary road ahead I think I think that I think that we can all agree that's that's what it is isn't it for all of us
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Thanks for having me. It was very fun.