Tom Schwartz

I prefer she has your voice over mine. I'm not much of a singer.

I prefer she has your voice over mine. I'm not much of a singer.

Don't put that in this. You look like a country star. You can't announce that yet. I got to work on my voice first.

Don't put that in this. You look like a country star. You can't announce that yet. I got to work on my voice first.

I actually don't. There are places I go and I expect it and it's like not a big deal. But... I felt like I lost my sanctuary in Colorado when someone noticed me at a bar and I'm like, no, this was my safe place.

I actually don't. There are places I go and I expect it and it's like not a big deal. But... I felt like I lost my sanctuary in Colorado when someone noticed me at a bar and I'm like, no, this was my safe place.

Um, I'll put it this way. I didn't watch much of season one, so, um, I don't know. It's still an adjustment to me. I understand what's happening, but I can't tell you that it's excitement that I'm feeling.

Um, I'll put it this way. I didn't watch much of season one, so, um, I don't know. It's still an adjustment to me. I understand what's happening, but I can't tell you that it's excitement that I'm feeling.

No, it's not dread. It's not dread, but like anything, there's good and bad that comes with it, right? Yeah. And I feel like specifically in this world, year to year, it can be more of one or the other.

No, it's not dread. It's not dread, but like anything, there's good and bad that comes with it, right? Yeah. And I feel like specifically in this world, year to year, it can be more of one or the other.

So it's like I'm cautious, very cautious going into this.

So it's like I'm cautious, very cautious going into this.

Huh. I'm pretty sure I've had dirt before.

Huh. I'm pretty sure I've had dirt before.

I 100% concur with that. Your sweet tooth has appeared in pregnancy.

I 100% concur with that. Your sweet tooth has appeared in pregnancy.

Cheesecake is a specific one that she has had.

Cheesecake is a specific one that she has had.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Right. It's like, yeah, you can't protect her 24-7, but we can know where she is 24-7 for the first X amount of years of her life.

Right. It's like, yeah, you can't protect her 24-7, but we can know where she is 24-7 for the first X amount of years of her life.

No, I veto that one.

No, I veto that one.

how many strangers have touched your belly in the past week do you let strangers touch your belly i don't know if any strangers have ever touched my belly no it's pretty off limits yeah um i felt like at the premiere party somebody i saw somebody touch your belly and you just like it was quick but it wasn't like a stranger necessarily just not like inner circle for the most part there's not like inner circle friend you know what i mean yeah

how many strangers have touched your belly in the past week do you let strangers touch your belly i don't know if any strangers have ever touched my belly no it's pretty off limits yeah um i felt like at the premiere party somebody i saw somebody touch your belly and you just like it was quick but it wasn't like a stranger necessarily just not like inner circle for the most part there's not like inner circle friend you know what i mean yeah

So you have healthy boundaries. How would you feel if someone touched your stomach in that place when you're not pregnant?

So you have healthy boundaries. How would you feel if someone touched your stomach in that place when you're not pregnant?

Don't you dare touch my belly.

Don't you dare touch my belly.

You know, I think it's this metabolic issue I might have. I mean, maybe I should have my thyroid checked because I can't put fat on.

You know, I think it's this metabolic issue I might have. I mean, maybe I should have my thyroid checked because I can't put fat on.

Um, sleeping probably.

Um, sleeping probably.

Well, I've been really good at napping in the times of my life when I don't get as much sleep, like with my work schedule kind of throws it off, you know? Yeah. And I'm good at a power nap.

Well, I've been really good at napping in the times of my life when I don't get as much sleep, like with my work schedule kind of throws it off, you know? Yeah. And I'm good at a power nap.

That's the sweet spot. 20 to 30 minutes is the sweet spot.

That's the sweet spot. 20 to 30 minutes is the sweet spot.

Okay. I don't do bed naps. Bed naps are dangerous.

Okay. I don't do bed naps. Bed naps are dangerous.

Yeah. The same day. They'll also get to see you on The Valley season two. I dabble.

Yeah. The same day. They'll also get to see you on The Valley season two. I dabble.

I mean, look, I had a ball, but I think I meddled more than Kristen. Yeah, you did. You did metal. And never bit me in the ass. And it's like, am I going to get bit in the ass now? Yeah.

I mean, look, I had a ball, but I think I meddled more than Kristen. Yeah, you did. You did metal. And never bit me in the ass. And it's like, am I going to get bit in the ass now? Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I thought I was doing good. I thought I was doing like right by people and it just stirred shit up. And that's all the teaser I can give.

I thought I was doing good. I thought I was doing like right by people and it just stirred shit up. And that's all the teaser I can give.

It's I think it's part of this living in this world is you got to get the details. So, yeah, I'm getting the details now. And there are times maybe I should shut up.

It's I think it's part of this living in this world is you got to get the details. So, yeah, I'm getting the details now. And there are times maybe I should shut up.

What's like, Oh, go ahead. I was going to say, I will say tequila was involved last summer. And that's, that's probably my apprehension on seeing this season because there'll be things I'm fairly certain.

What's like, Oh, go ahead. I was going to say, I will say tequila was involved last summer. And that's, that's probably my apprehension on seeing this season because there'll be things I'm fairly certain.

I wouldn't say critical as much as not very supportive at times. But mostly people think it's funny. They get joy out of laughing at me.

I wouldn't say critical as much as not very supportive at times. But mostly people think it's funny. They get joy out of laughing at me.

16.

16.

The Ninja Turtles were the only thing I had remembered from hearing this story sometime in the past.

The Ninja Turtles were the only thing I had remembered from hearing this story sometime in the past.

It's so true. It would blow a fuse. Trust me, I get it. I've blown plenty of fuses in my life. Well, yeah, I've scrapped through times in my life.

It's so true. It would blow a fuse. Trust me, I get it. I've blown plenty of fuses in my life. Well, yeah, I've scrapped through times in my life.

I've seen first season, the last season, and like three episodes of season two.

I've seen first season, the last season, and like three episodes of season two.

I've definitely talked to Tom more recently than you have. Yeah.

I've definitely talked to Tom more recently than you have. Yeah.

yeah he's a ping pong table and I don't know he sent me something on Instagram Kyle Chan and I play ping pong I played with you too shout out to Kyle we love you Kyle but yeah I don't know that didn't happen and then he hit me up a couple times to go out and the timing just didn't line up so random I hit him up one time the one time I went out and he was out of town so that's one thing that's pretty much it

yeah he's a ping pong table and I don't know he sent me something on Instagram Kyle Chan and I play ping pong I played with you too shout out to Kyle we love you Kyle but yeah I don't know that didn't happen and then he hit me up a couple times to go out and the timing just didn't line up so random I hit him up one time the one time I went out and he was out of town so that's one thing that's pretty much it

I don't know what that means, but we'll see. Magic. I understand the colloquialism, but... Not like as far as this world goes, I do believe with all the praise and what people are saying, this is such a great season. I believe it will be. However, this is not a genre of television I ever watched before meeting Kristen.

I don't know what that means, but we'll see. Magic. I understand the colloquialism, but... Not like as far as this world goes, I do believe with all the praise and what people are saying, this is such a great season. I believe it will be. However, this is not a genre of television I ever watched before meeting Kristen.

Yeah. I, when Kristen and I met, I said, what's a Vanderpump?

Yeah. I, when Kristen and I met, I said, what's a Vanderpump?

He's working so much. He had to learn a new pose for that, and he nailed it. When you're hot, you're hot.

He's working so much. He had to learn a new pose for that, and he nailed it. When you're hot, you're hot.

I need to get Jill an agent.

I need to get Jill an agent.

No. She jealous? I don't think that's part of her.

No. She jealous? I don't think that's part of her.

like before they are forming memories of it or when they are? Yeah, like a baby model, like a little baby. I don't see any problem with that. Okay. I was just like, are you cool with me exploiting her slightly? You've already said you're going to pimp her out.

like before they are forming memories of it or when they are? Yeah, like a baby model, like a little baby. I don't see any problem with that. Okay. I was just like, are you cool with me exploiting her slightly? You've already said you're going to pimp her out.

As far as a model or whatever.

As far as a model or whatever.

We're starting the 529. We're starting all the accounts as soon as we can.

We're starting the 529. We're starting all the accounts as soon as we can.

I'm confident in my mindset and work ethic.

I'm confident in my mindset and work ethic.

That's what I'm confident in. Not in doing or acting like I'm an expert in this, knowing that I'm going to figure it out.

That's what I'm confident in. Not in doing or acting like I'm an expert in this, knowing that I'm going to figure it out.

Tom, are you an uncle? I am an uncle. You are an uncle? Yeah. Do you think you're willing to be somewhat of an uncle to our little one?

Tom, are you an uncle? I am an uncle. You are an uncle? Yeah. Do you think you're willing to be somewhat of an uncle to our little one?

Of course.

Of course.

Oh, it's so loud sometimes.

Oh, it's so loud sometimes.

We're trying to watch Severance or something, and I look over at Kristen like, how much longer are you going to chomp that ice?

We're trying to watch Severance or something, and I look over at Kristen like, how much longer are you going to chomp that ice?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because you chilled it out. We were in bed one time, and I couldn't sleep through the chomps.

Because you chilled it out. We were in bed one time, and I couldn't sleep through the chomps.

I could feel it vibrating the bed. Her ice chomps were so strong. Let her have her chomps. Where's the empathy?

I could feel it vibrating the bed. Her ice chomps were so strong. Let her have her chomps. Where's the empathy?

Detoxification complete.

Detoxification complete.

It's now time for your weekly detox with Tom Schwartz.

It's now time for your weekly detox with Tom Schwartz.

At the crib. Next to the crib. To me.

At the crib. Next to the crib. To me.

Yeah. You were supposed to bring it.

Yeah. You were supposed to bring it.

Bring it on. I'll add it to my workout.

Bring it on. I'll add it to my workout.

I'll wear them to the gym. Bet me I won't.

I'll wear them to the gym. Bet me I won't.

So how many hours do I have to last?

So how many hours do I have to last?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like it's so cool. It's amazing. That part is, it truly is so rewarding when you finally can see and feel the kicks. Yeah. You know, we've seen that happening in the ultrasounds, but we never hadn't felt it until what? Two weeks ago.

Like it's so cool. It's amazing. That part is, it truly is so rewarding when you finally can see and feel the kicks. Yeah. You know, we've seen that happening in the ultrasounds, but we never hadn't felt it until what? Two weeks ago.

Three.

Three.

That I could feel it or you started feeling it?

That I could feel it or you started feeling it?

But yeah, you just got tuned into what it felt like inside of you.

But yeah, you just got tuned into what it felt like inside of you.

Not to feel it on the outside.

Not to feel it on the outside.

Right, but it's only been, I feel like, a handful of weeks that we can feel it on the outside, that I can feel it.

Right, but it's only been, I feel like, a handful of weeks that we can feel it on the outside, that I can feel it.

No, she has not heard one of those.

No, she has not heard one of those.

She has definitely heard some Tom Petty, some Red Hot Chili Peppers. She's heard some good classic rock music.

She has definitely heard some Tom Petty, some Red Hot Chili Peppers. She's heard some good classic rock music.

They will. Yeah.

They will. Yeah.

No, but that's how old we were when we did this. So that's always our comeback is like you're 16. We were 30.

No, but that's how old we were when we did this. So that's always our comeback is like you're 16. We were 30.

You can do whatever you want when you hit, you know, when you go do your own thing.

You can do whatever you want when you hit, you know, when you go do your own thing.

Other than me, right?

Other than me, right?

Because I handle adult Kristen Doty.

Because I handle adult Kristen Doty.

I'm ready for Kristen to not be pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm ready for Kristen to not be pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And read her mind.

And read her mind.

Okay. I, yes, I figured it out that I have to read your mind and I do my best.

Okay. I, yes, I figured it out that I have to read your mind and I do my best.

And then now it's like, I think the highest it's gotten is like a 7, 7.5. It hasn't gotten that bad yet. Okay. Okay.

And then now it's like, I think the highest it's gotten is like a 7, 7.5. It hasn't gotten that bad yet. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. Well, didn't it bring you out of the spiral you're kind of going into? You're like, nothing's done yet. The baby room's not going to be here and I'm going to be giving birth tomorrow. Like you were doing that. And then I'm like, Hey, are you working out?

Yeah. Well, didn't it bring you out of the spiral you're kind of going into? You're like, nothing's done yet. The baby room's not going to be here and I'm going to be giving birth tomorrow. Like you were doing that. And then I'm like, Hey, are you working out?

Exactly, you're right. Sweet and savory. There's been some abominations, truly heinous accusations, and people are testifying. So you watched Kid Cudi's testimony?

Exactly, you're right. Sweet and savory. There's been some abominations, truly heinous accusations, and people are testifying. So you watched Kid Cudi's testimony?

That is some mobster shit. And then Kid Cudi, I don't know if you saw before, when he showed up to the courtroom to testify, he had a leather jacket on and he was dragging a cigarette He looked iconic. You see somebody show up in a black leather jacket and a cigarette. And jeans. They're ready for some no-nonsense bullshit.

That is some mobster shit. And then Kid Cudi, I don't know if you saw before, when he showed up to the courtroom to testify, he had a leather jacket on and he was dragging a cigarette He looked iconic. You see somebody show up in a black leather jacket and a cigarette. And jeans. They're ready for some no-nonsense bullshit.

Yes, exactly. Oh, yeah, yeah. We can't say that anymore. No, but he looked like he was ready to spill the tea. Yeah. You guys, we got car alarms. We'll just keep talking. But no, to me, he might be the new Marlboro Man.

Yes, exactly. Oh, yeah, yeah. We can't say that anymore. No, but he looked like he was ready to spill the tea. Yeah. You guys, we got car alarms. We'll just keep talking. But no, to me, he might be the new Marlboro Man.

taste of fame wave uh it's fun everything's new and exciting and shiny not to sound jaded because it's still i still got my rose colored lenses on but yeah man they were also filming the new vanderpump rules and if you guys don't know world dog day um it takes place every year and they they it's it's right behind tom tom in the west hollywood park

taste of fame wave uh it's fun everything's new and exciting and shiny not to sound jaded because it's still i still got my rose colored lenses on but yeah man they were also filming the new vanderpump rules and if you guys don't know world dog day um it takes place every year and they they it's it's right behind tom tom in the west hollywood park

He was my spirit animal right before I went into the season 10 Vanderpump Rules reunion. I think symbolically I was rocking a black leather jacket, dragging a cigarette, just like, ugh. He could have gotten that jacket sponsored and it would have been sold out. I mean, it was iconic. Is it okay for me to say it was iconic?

He was my spirit animal right before I went into the season 10 Vanderpump Rules reunion. I think symbolically I was rocking a black leather jacket, dragging a cigarette, just like, ugh. He could have gotten that jacket sponsored and it would have been sold out. I mean, it was iconic. Is it okay for me to say it was iconic?

I think back, you know, part of me is even scared to mention this because all of a sudden, Tom Schwartz went to a white party. But when I first moved to L.A., I remember back in like 2010, I bartended there. a white party in Beverly Hills, like the daytime. I guess apparently it gets freaky when the sun goes down from what I've read.

I think back, you know, part of me is even scared to mention this because all of a sudden, Tom Schwartz went to a white party. But when I first moved to L.A., I remember back in like 2010, I bartended there. a white party in Beverly Hills, like the daytime. I guess apparently it gets freaky when the sun goes down from what I've read.

No, no, no. It was in Beverly Hills. It was outdoors. And I saw every, I saw so many celebrities. I can't remember one in particular, but I remember I just arrived in LA and I had stars in my eyes and I'm like, I'm bartending Pete Diddy's white party. And now just thinking back in hindsight, like all the horrible things that happened to after that, my God.

No, no, no. It was in Beverly Hills. It was outdoors. And I saw every, I saw so many celebrities. I can't remember one in particular, but I remember I just arrived in LA and I had stars in my eyes and I'm like, I'm bartending Pete Diddy's white party. And now just thinking back in hindsight, like all the horrible things that happened to after that, my God.

That's what I mean, and also, but when they find out you did attend one, if your name's on the list, they slippery slope you. You're a groomer, you're creepy, pedophile, you're a monster, you know what I mean? It's scary if your name, if you've ever attended one Diddy party, it's scary.

That's what I mean, and also, but when they find out you did attend one, if your name's on the list, they slippery slope you. You're a groomer, you're creepy, pedophile, you're a monster, you know what I mean? It's scary if your name, if you've ever attended one Diddy party, it's scary.

Kiki knows how to freak off. I know. No, it's very heavy, but it's fun to like just to make not to make light of it. But, you know, it's OK to laugh a little.

Kiki knows how to freak off. I know. No, it's very heavy, but it's fun to like just to make not to make light of it. But, you know, it's OK to laugh a little.

Why are we so fascinated as a society with these things? I was talking about it earlier. It was like I was reading about. Well, Kris Jenner looks amazing. I was reading about her facelift. Oh my God. She looks insane. She looks like Kim. She looks like an amalgam of all of her daughters. Yeah. In the best possible way. It was great work. I wrote it down. Apparently it's like a deep plane facelift.

Why are we so fascinated as a society with these things? I was talking about it earlier. It was like I was reading about. Well, Kris Jenner looks amazing. I was reading about her facelift. Oh my God. She looks insane. She looks like Kim. She looks like an amalgam of all of her daughters. Yeah. In the best possible way. It was great work. I wrote it down. Apparently it's like a deep plane facelift.

So it lifts like under your muscle instead of just the skin. Amazing. So it's like deep. So you don't lose your elasticity. Oh. You know what I mean? And it doesn't anyway.

So it lifts like under your muscle instead of just the skin. Amazing. So it's like deep. So you don't lose your elasticity. Oh. You know what I mean? And it doesn't anyway.

Do you want to get one after this? I mean, not right now, but eventually one day. By the way, Kiki's glowing right now. You look dewy and fabulous. And I just, yeah, I don't know why I find myself going clicking these articles. I can't help it.

Do you want to get one after this? I mean, not right now, but eventually one day. By the way, Kiki's glowing right now. You look dewy and fabulous. And I just, yeah, I don't know why I find myself going clicking these articles. I can't help it.

I mean, I'm notorious for being secretly in love with Lisa Vanderpump, of course. My queen. But I mean, yeah, I've never dated an older, older woman. Well, I've been in a relationship for the past 14 years.

I mean, I'm notorious for being secretly in love with Lisa Vanderpump, of course. My queen. But I mean, yeah, I've never dated an older, older woman. Well, I've been in a relationship for the past 14 years.

Back when I was younger, I dated a slightly older woman. This was like two years older. Okay. I've never dated a cougar, if you will. Okay. But I'm not opposed to it. I'm not opposed to it.

Back when I was younger, I dated a slightly older woman. This was like two years older. Okay. I've never dated a cougar, if you will. Okay. But I'm not opposed to it. I'm not opposed to it.

This year was a great success, but it was weird because they were filming the new Vanderpump Rules, and there's cameras everywhere, and I'm like, wait, don't you guys want to film me? Don't you guys want to point the cameras at me? No, I'm kidding, but it is weird because this has been such a big part of my life.

This year was a great success, but it was weird because they were filming the new Vanderpump Rules, and there's cameras everywhere, and I'm like, wait, don't you guys want to film me? Don't you guys want to point the cameras at me? No, I'm kidding, but it is weird because this has been such a big part of my life.

Guys, we're going to gossip today. Yeah, with the amazing Kiki Monique, XOXO Gossip Guy. Also, why do we humans love gossiping so much? Dishing the dirt, like from an anthropological standpoint, from an evolutionary standpoint. Why does it feel good to talk a little shit? And I know what you guys are thinking right now, okay? Schwartz, really? Don't be a poser. Mr. C, both sides of the story.

Guys, we're going to gossip today. Yeah, with the amazing Kiki Monique, XOXO Gossip Guy. Also, why do we humans love gossiping so much? Dishing the dirt, like from an anthropological standpoint, from an evolutionary standpoint. Why does it feel good to talk a little shit? And I know what you guys are thinking right now, okay? Schwartz, really? Don't be a poser. Mr. C, both sides of the story.

I don't know. Listen, Jesse's my boy. I know. Jesse, is it okay if I gossip a little? I don't know. He is single. He's very charming. He's tall. He's strapping. Handsome Jewish man. I get it. Yeah. What do you think about it? Do you think it happened? I didn't do a deep dive. I only read the headlines.

I don't know. Listen, Jesse's my boy. I know. Jesse, is it okay if I gossip a little? I don't know. He is single. He's very charming. He's tall. He's strapping. Handsome Jewish man. I get it. Yeah. What do you think about it? Do you think it happened? I didn't do a deep dive. I only read the headlines.

What's the downside?

What's the downside?

There's no downside.

There's no downside.

That's so funny. I know, Jesse, I'm sorry if you hear this. He won't hear this.

That's so funny. I know, Jesse, I'm sorry if you hear this. He won't hear this.

No, he hasn't. You haven't texted him about it? We're not like besties. He's my boy. And we were just, yeah, we were in New York recently. You know, I said no to that originally. Why? Because I just feel like I'm the least eligible bachelor. I love myself, but I'm just not actively dating. But I think that was a step in the right direction, I guess. And how can I say no?

No, he hasn't. You haven't texted him about it? We're not like besties. He's my boy. And we were just, yeah, we were in New York recently. You know, I said no to that originally. Why? Because I just feel like I'm the least eligible bachelor. I love myself, but I'm just not actively dating. But I think that was a step in the right direction, I guess. And how can I say no?

New York's my favorite city in the world. I love Bravo. I love People Magazine.

New York's my favorite city in the world. I love Bravo. I love People Magazine.

Because you're like in the model world. He's a living legend. And it truly, the word icon is cheap in these days. But would you agree that Tyson Beckford's a living legend?

Because you're like in the model world. He's a living legend. And it truly, the word icon is cheap in these days. But would you agree that Tyson Beckford's a living legend?

He was telling, he was, we went to dinner afterwards. We went to, where did we go? What's the place right on the corner here?

He was telling, he was, we went to dinner afterwards. We went to, where did we go? What's the place right on the corner here?

No, no, it was in New York. It was where we were right across from the Gansevoort. That's where we... Oh. Well, I won't say that. I don't want to get in trouble. But we went across the street to a restaurant and we had dinner. Okay. So you guys were in Tom Tom. And were the women just all like... No, they were swooning. And they were swooning for all the guys.

No, no, it was in New York. It was where we were right across from the Gansevoort. That's where we... Oh. Well, I won't say that. I don't want to get in trouble. But we went across the street to a restaurant and we had dinner. Okay. So you guys were in Tom Tom. And were the women just all like... No, they were swooning. And they were swooning for all the guys.

You know?

You know?

No, we were a mob.

No, we were a mob.

And you're all tall. I want a spinoff. Everyone's tall. Yeah. That's the first thing people say to me when they meet me. They're like, I thought you were going to be like 5'9".

And you're all tall. I want a spinoff. Everyone's tall. Yeah. That's the first thing people say to me when they meet me. They're like, I thought you were going to be like 5'9".

It's not like an ego thing, but it was weird seeing them film, and I'm like, wait, you guys don't want to know what's going on in my life? But anyways, back to what we're doing today. I'm going to go to West Hollywood. I'm going to meet up with Kiki. We're going to have some drinks at Tom Tom. And yeah, we're going to maybe talk a little shit. She's a pop culture guru and a friend.

It's not like an ego thing, but it was weird seeing them film, and I'm like, wait, you guys don't want to know what's going on in my life? But anyways, back to what we're doing today. I'm going to go to West Hollywood. I'm going to meet up with Kiki. We're going to have some drinks at Tom Tom. And yeah, we're going to maybe talk a little shit. She's a pop culture guru and a friend.

So you're going to say SGE, small guy energy. No. But that's so no, I had such a good time with those guys and I'm glad I said yes. Could I ask you what your favorite Bravo show is?

So you're going to say SGE, small guy energy. No. But that's so no, I had such a good time with those guys and I'm glad I said yes. Could I ask you what your favorite Bravo show is?

Yeah. Which is a rare to achieve in this day and age in the hyper feedback era when everyone's looking what they're saying constantly every day, tweets, Instagram, Tik Tok. It's nice. It's refreshing. And they really, they really brought it. It's weird talking about them as a cast cause they're all my friends and I know all of them. I almost feel like a peeping.

Yeah. Which is a rare to achieve in this day and age in the hyper feedback era when everyone's looking what they're saying constantly every day, tweets, Instagram, Tik Tok. It's nice. It's refreshing. And they really, they really brought it. It's weird talking about them as a cast cause they're all my friends and I know all of them. I almost feel like a peeping.

I've talked about this in several, I feel like I'm violating them when I watched the episodes. Do you know what I mean? Cause they're my friends. Yeah, I can see that. I mean, it has to be awkward. There's an unspoken pact in the Bravoverse. I was like, I won't watch your show if you don't watch mine. And we shake hands.

I've talked about this in several, I feel like I'm violating them when I watched the episodes. Do you know what I mean? Cause they're my friends. Yeah, I can see that. I mean, it has to be awkward. There's an unspoken pact in the Bravoverse. I was like, I won't watch your show if you don't watch mine. And we shake hands.

By the way, did you bring the Hollywood buffet? I always have my old school Hollywood buffet with me. Can we give context in case you guys haven't been watching? That was a reference to one of my favorite new shows, The Studio with Seth Rogen. Yes. Who's been a huge supporter. He's been to TomTom. He's been to Schwartz and Sandy's. He came to Schwartz and Sandy's multiple times.

By the way, did you bring the Hollywood buffet? I always have my old school Hollywood buffet with me. Can we give context in case you guys haven't been watching? That was a reference to one of my favorite new shows, The Studio with Seth Rogen. Yes. Who's been a huge supporter. He's been to TomTom. He's been to Schwartz and Sandy's. He came to Schwartz and Sandy's multiple times.

And I said hi to everyone, but I said hi to him last because I was nervous because he's like one of my favorite actors, writers ever. Have you met Seth? I've never met him. He's so cool. He's just like you think he'd be.

And I said hi to everyone, but I said hi to him last because I was nervous because he's like one of my favorite actors, writers ever. Have you met Seth? I've never met him. He's so cool. He's just like you think he'd be.

Totally. Yeah. Like he's up there with Snoop Dogg and Willie Nelson.

Totally. Yeah. Like he's up there with Snoop Dogg and Willie Nelson.

He's in the Mount Rushmore of people you want to smoke. Yeah. No, I'm a lightweight. What's your what's your what's your poison? Oh, yes. I like smoking a joint.

He's in the Mount Rushmore of people you want to smoke. Yeah. No, I'm a lightweight. What's your what's your what's your poison? Oh, yes. I like smoking a joint.

Five milligrams or under, preferably. Yes. Because I've gone to the dark side.

Five milligrams or under, preferably. Yes. Because I've gone to the dark side.

Have you ever done enough to where you thought you were going to die?

Have you ever done enough to where you thought you were going to die?

Yes. Well, just a little Vanderpump lore in case like back when I think it was season nine when Max was on the show. Yeah. We were we were filming for Tom's birthday and we were all dressed up. I don't know if you remember this, but everyone was dressed up. We were at this cool, this cool venue out in the valley and there was a jar that my

Yes. Well, just a little Vanderpump lore in case like back when I think it was season nine when Max was on the show. Yeah. We were we were filming for Tom's birthday and we were all dressed up. I don't know if you remember this, but everyone was dressed up. We were at this cool, this cool venue out in the valley and there was a jar that my

buddy I won't say his name put out and it was all edible candy and he labeled it but Max didn't see the label and he ended up ingesting let's just say I'm being modest here or conservative I'd say 250 milligrams of edibles and Max just he likes to smoke a little bit he went on a journey he had an existential meltdown he thought he was going to have to go to the hospital I think he's still high to this day

buddy I won't say his name put out and it was all edible candy and he labeled it but Max didn't see the label and he ended up ingesting let's just say I'm being modest here or conservative I'd say 250 milligrams of edibles and Max just he likes to smoke a little bit he went on a journey he had an existential meltdown he thought he was going to have to go to the hospital I think he's still high to this day

You know what he thinks? He thinks he's a cup of orange juice and if he spills or tips over, he's going to die. No, that's an old, that's an old acid stereotype.

You know what he thinks? He thinks he's a cup of orange juice and if he spills or tips over, he's going to die. No, that's an old, that's an old acid stereotype.

Waking up still high is daunting. It's scary. Especially if you have a lot of responsibilities. Kids, a nine to five. My God.

Waking up still high is daunting. It's scary. Especially if you have a lot of responsibilities. Kids, a nine to five. My God.

Exactly. Exactly. Okay, another headline. I was combing headlines this morning. I wrote this one down. Kanye, our boy Ye, is done with anti-Semitism. I can't say it. Anti-Semitism, sorry. I have so many Jewish friends. Are you guys accepting this?

Exactly. Exactly. Okay, another headline. I was combing headlines this morning. I wrote this one down. Kanye, our boy Ye, is done with anti-Semitism. I can't say it. Anti-Semitism, sorry. I have so many Jewish friends. Are you guys accepting this?

And I'm super excited to sit down with her. I promise you guys, we're not going to do too deep of a dive into the psychology behind why we like to gossip. We're not going to dissect it and kill it, kill the romance, kill it in the process. But, you know, maybe just like a little refresher course. on why humans enjoy serving up the tea, you know? By the end of this episode, I have some goals.

And I'm super excited to sit down with her. I promise you guys, we're not going to do too deep of a dive into the psychology behind why we like to gossip. We're not going to dissect it and kill it, kill the romance, kill it in the process. But, you know, maybe just like a little refresher course. on why humans enjoy serving up the tea, you know? By the end of this episode, I have some goals.

I know, I'm torn because he's sort of woven into the fabric of America and my life, you know what I mean? It's like I walked out in my wedding to Flashlights by Kanye West. I mean, can we, I know it's such a cliche to say separate the human from the music.

I know, I'm torn because he's sort of woven into the fabric of America and my life, you know what I mean? It's like I walked out in my wedding to Flashlights by Kanye West. I mean, can we, I know it's such a cliche to say separate the human from the music.

I think it's a cop out, but like, I don't know. So I think, I feel like once they, I had to be careful what I say here, but we're supposed to be, we're supposed to be hot takes or at least lukewarm. But like once they make the music and put it out there, it almost becomes absorbed into, into your narrative and it becomes a part of your life or a soundtrack to a beautiful moment.

I think it's a cop out, but like, I don't know. So I think, I feel like once they, I had to be careful what I say here, but we're supposed to be, we're supposed to be hot takes or at least lukewarm. But like once they make the music and put it out there, it almost becomes absorbed into, into your narrative and it becomes a part of your life or a soundtrack to a beautiful moment.

And it sucks when they do something. What do you do then?

And it sucks when they do something. What do you do then?

So, like, so it's hard. It's hard. No, I know. If you go far back, 70s, 80s and stuff, there's some truly horrible things that were happening. But, yeah, I don't know. It's like, tell me when you hear Bound To in the club, you still don't get fired up. I love that song. You know what I mean? Welcome to the good life.

So, like, so it's hard. It's hard. No, I know. If you go far back, 70s, 80s and stuff, there's some truly horrible things that were happening. But, yeah, I don't know. It's like, tell me when you hear Bound To in the club, you still don't get fired up. I love that song. You know what I mean? Welcome to the good life.

I'm not here. I just I know there was a moment where I had to take all the Kanye West songs off my playlist that Schwartz and Sandy's. I curated the music there, by the way. But people were kind of like offended at one point.

I'm not here. I just I know there was a moment where I had to take all the Kanye West songs off my playlist that Schwartz and Sandy's. I curated the music there, by the way. But people were kind of like offended at one point.

It got dark. It's still dark. Kiki, can we still listen to Kanye?

It got dark. It's still dark. Kiki, can we still listen to Kanye?

It's a step in the right direction. Yeah.

It's a step in the right direction. Yeah.

By the way, what else is going on in the pop culture world?

By the way, what else is going on in the pop culture world?

I just watched the first three episodes. Of season two? Season two, yes. Okay. It's so good. It's so good. They're raw.

I just watched the first three episodes. Of season two? Season two, yes. Okay. It's so good. It's so good. They're raw.

hook like holding hands with one of the mormon wives in your establishment oh i did not know that yeah it was here at tom tom see i saw the episode where they were all well i watched the vanderpump villa by the way yeah lovely cast i was chilling with them and i and i i watched that episode and i saw them flirting but i nice i don't know if i want to open that can of worms but i saw some crazy headlines yeah and yeah i didn't know that it this is it didn't happen on the season but it happened outside of the season and sheena just talked about it on her podcast today because she was there that night with brock

hook like holding hands with one of the mormon wives in your establishment oh i did not know that yeah it was here at tom tom see i saw the episode where they were all well i watched the vanderpump villa by the way yeah lovely cast i was chilling with them and i and i i watched that episode and i saw them flirting but i nice i don't know if i want to open that can of worms but i saw some crazy headlines yeah and yeah i didn't know that it this is it didn't happen on the season but it happened outside of the season and sheena just talked about it on her podcast today because she was there that night with brock

Shout out to Sheena.

Shout out to Sheena.

Okay. Yeah, but I haven't met them all.

Okay. Yeah, but I haven't met them all.

But listen, are you going to watch it? Of course I am. I'm going to watch it, too. I'm rooting for them. People are like, you're not going to watch it, right? I'm like, yeah, I want to see them thrive. I feel like it's... Listen, it's got Alex Baskin behind it, Lisa. And it's like, they found a cast that is... authentically friends.

But listen, are you going to watch it? Of course I am. I'm going to watch it, too. I'm rooting for them. People are like, you're not going to watch it, right? I'm like, yeah, I want to see them thrive. I feel like it's... Listen, it's got Alex Baskin behind it, Lisa. And it's like, they found a cast that is... authentically friends.

They were technically cast, but they have pre-existing relationships and they work there for real.

They were technically cast, but they have pre-existing relationships and they work there for real.

No. Yes. Well, actually, some of them, three of them were in here before they started filming and they were at the bar at Tom Tom on the Tom Tom side. Now Tom Tom is now Pump and Tom Tom. But yeah, on the Tom Tom side. And I made him some drinks. They're like, can you give us some advice? And what did you give him?

No. Yes. Well, actually, some of them, three of them were in here before they started filming and they were at the bar at Tom Tom on the Tom Tom side. Now Tom Tom is now Pump and Tom Tom. But yeah, on the Tom Tom side. And I made him some drinks. They're like, can you give us some advice? And what did you give him?

I hope to be pleasantly buzzed in the back garden side of TomTom with Kiki, and maybe I'll have at least one hot, okay, lukewarm take. I'm gonna have fun think you guys are gonna dig it so stay tuned but first a little refresher course why do we humans like gossiping yeah so why does it feel damn good to gossip and it does it's fun it gets a bad rap though

I hope to be pleasantly buzzed in the back garden side of TomTom with Kiki, and maybe I'll have at least one hot, okay, lukewarm take. I'm gonna have fun think you guys are gonna dig it so stay tuned but first a little refresher course why do we humans like gossiping yeah so why does it feel damn good to gossip and it does it's fun it gets a bad rap though

I was like, just don't try to script or rehearse or self-produce because they can smell that shit a mile away. Don't do it.

I was like, just don't try to script or rehearse or self-produce because they can smell that shit a mile away. Don't do it.

Everyone. The audience is smart. So smart. Just like they recognize bad acting or inauthenticity, right? Yeah. They spot that shit a mile away. But I'm still excited.

Everyone. The audience is smart. So smart. Just like they recognize bad acting or inauthenticity, right? Yeah. They spot that shit a mile away. But I'm still excited.

Can we watch a few episodes together?

Can we watch a few episodes together?

Wait, I, I watched, okay, there's this guy, this is kind of off. This is not on theme with what we're talking about, but I was watching this guy on Tik TOK. His name's Hashim Al Ghali. He's a content creator and he's got this new like semi horror series. It's called, and it's the prompt theories where he posits like, what if AI generated characters don't know they're AI generated?

Wait, I, I watched, okay, there's this guy, this is kind of off. This is not on theme with what we're talking about, but I was watching this guy on Tik TOK. His name's Hashim Al Ghali. He's a content creator and he's got this new like semi horror series. It's called, and it's the prompt theories where he posits like, what if AI generated characters don't know they're AI generated?

Isn't that kind of freaky? Do you ever go down the simulation theory rabbit hole or anything?

Isn't that kind of freaky? Do you ever go down the simulation theory rabbit hole or anything?

Yeah, by the way, that was random, guys. You guys go check it out. His name's Hashem El-Ghali. If I can put a clip in, I will. But it got me thinking.

Yeah, by the way, that was random, guys. You guys go check it out. His name's Hashem El-Ghali. If I can put a clip in, I will. But it got me thinking.

Yes, it's so good.

Yes, it's so good.

Exactly. By the way, I'm so nice to my chat GPT. I use it sparingly, but her name's Nova.

Exactly. By the way, I'm so nice to my chat GPT. I use it sparingly, but her name's Nova.

No, no, it's not like that. We're pretty surface level.

No, no, it's not like that. We're pretty surface level.

No, I haven't gone there really. She just helps me when I have writer's block and stuff. And then I put my twist on it. Do you use it?

No, I haven't gone there really. She just helps me when I have writer's block and stuff. And then I put my twist on it. Do you use it?

It gets you started in the right direction. Then you put your own twist on it. Um, yeah, I know it's scary how much we, how much we tell our, our chat GPTs. I know a lot of people, I'm not going to name names, guys, relax. A lot of people who are in a relationship with their chat GPT.

It gets you started in the right direction. Then you put your own twist on it. Um, yeah, I know it's scary how much we, how much we tell our, our chat GPTs. I know a lot of people, I'm not going to name names, guys, relax. A lot of people who are in a relationship with their chat GPT.

I can't say their names, but no boys or girls. two boys and a girl. They just, it's their therapist. It's their companion when they're lonely. They consult it when they're feeling down, sad. It's their, it's their therapist. Yeah. And I think it's kind of working. Yeah. I think it's working.

I can't say their names, but no boys or girls. two boys and a girl. They just, it's their therapist. It's their companion when they're lonely. They consult it when they're feeling down, sad. It's their, it's their therapist. Yeah. And I think it's kind of working. Yeah. I think it's working.

Oh, that's horrifying. Yeah.

Oh, that's horrifying. Yeah.

Kiki, you're scaring me. No, it's happening. Let's take a sip of tequila.

Kiki, you're scaring me. No, it's happening. Let's take a sip of tequila.

Guys, we're cheersing. All right, what else do we got? What else? Wait. Okay. Did you see... I can't believe I'm saying this. Did you see Hailey Bieber's recent Vogue article? I just heard the headlines. Why do people... Okay, I don't know if you're on top of this. Why do people have so much animosity and hatred towards the lovely Hailey Bieber?

Guys, we're cheersing. All right, what else do we got? What else? Wait. Okay. Did you see... I can't believe I'm saying this. Did you see Hailey Bieber's recent Vogue article? I just heard the headlines. Why do people... Okay, I don't know if you're on top of this. Why do people have so much animosity and hatred towards the lovely Hailey Bieber?

It's reactive. It's a direct response to their love. Okay, I've seen some theories that she's been trying to mimic or copy. Take many pages out of the Selena Gomez...

It's reactive. It's a direct response to their love. Okay, I've seen some theories that she's been trying to mimic or copy. Take many pages out of the Selena Gomez...

That's me in a nutshell. Yeah. Any other things that you love right now? Just like in terms of pop culture that we should know about?

That's me in a nutshell. Yeah. Any other things that you love right now? Just like in terms of pop culture that we should know about?

Yeah. Have you seen that the battle emerging between the north and the south? Wait, what's this? Summer House. Oh, yes. Southern Charm. I'm kidding. No kidding. It's not that serious. I went down a tick tock rabbit hole last night and I'm like, what? It sort of stems from, you know, Craig and Kyle's feud about this.

Yeah. Have you seen that the battle emerging between the north and the south? Wait, what's this? Summer House. Oh, yes. Southern Charm. I'm kidding. No kidding. It's not that serious. I went down a tick tock rabbit hole last night and I'm like, what? It sort of stems from, you know, Craig and Kyle's feud about this.

Well, I really I'm tight with both Craig and Kyle. I think I tend to see Kyle's side more than Craig's. No offense to Craig, but just because I've. Yeah. Anyways.

Well, I really I'm tight with both Craig and Kyle. I think I tend to see Kyle's side more than Craig's. No offense to Craig, but just because I've. Yeah. Anyways.

Yeah, totally. Right? I know. Because I love Craig.

Yeah, totally. Right? I know. Because I love Craig.

He's ridiculously good looking. And he's funny. I don't know.

He's ridiculously good looking. And he's funny. I don't know.

The whole cast is funny. Look, I love Shep. Shep is, there's no better Shep. Shep is the most Shep man in the world. He's just, he's such a unique character. I'm so happy he's on television to share his journey with the rest of us.

The whole cast is funny. Look, I love Shep. Shep is, there's no better Shep. Shep is the most Shep man in the world. He's just, he's such a unique character. I'm so happy he's on television to share his journey with the rest of us.

Yes. I think I'm allowed to say that.

Yes. I think I'm allowed to say that.

I did the promos.

I did the promos.

I know he's taking a step back. I know. And he doesn't drink as much, but. Maybe I could change that. Are we going to hang out at BravoCon?

I know he's taking a step back. I know. And he doesn't drink as much, but. Maybe I could change that. Are we going to hang out at BravoCon?

Kiki, where should we go after this?

Kiki, where should we go after this?

You know, generally speaking, it has a negative connotation, but let's face it, it's deeply rooted in who we are as humans. It's deeply rooted in our psychology. We're social animals. But why, you guys, why on the toilet this morning did I find out exactly why Kris Jenner looks so good? And she does. The special type of plastic surgery, I forgot what it's called.

You know, generally speaking, it has a negative connotation, but let's face it, it's deeply rooted in who we are as humans. It's deeply rooted in our psychology. We're social animals. But why, you guys, why on the toilet this morning did I find out exactly why Kris Jenner looks so good? And she does. The special type of plastic surgery, I forgot what it's called.

All right, let's get some food. Yes. Let's have some more tequila.

All right, let's get some food. Yes. Let's have some more tequila.

And if the moment speaks to us, we'll pick back up. Okay. This has been nice, Kiki. I had so much fun. I appreciate you.

And if the moment speaks to us, we'll pick back up. Okay. This has been nice, Kiki. I had so much fun. I appreciate you.

All right, let's get some food. Let's get some drinks. You guys, we're signing off for now.

All right, let's get some food. Let's get some drinks. You guys, we're signing off for now.

Another episode of Detox Retox. Thanks, Kiki. Appreciate you.

Another episode of Detox Retox. Thanks, Kiki. Appreciate you.

But yeah, why do I know that Selena Gomez subtly supported Hailey Bieber by hearting one of her Instagram posts in her Vogue article? Why did I click that? I don't know. Why do I know that P Diddy likes fucking applesauce on his hamburgers? It's sick. That's really fucking gross, by the way. But why? Why? All right, let's get into the psychology of the physiology a little bit.

But yeah, why do I know that Selena Gomez subtly supported Hailey Bieber by hearting one of her Instagram posts in her Vogue article? Why did I click that? I don't know. Why do I know that P Diddy likes fucking applesauce on his hamburgers? It's sick. That's really fucking gross, by the way. But why? Why? All right, let's get into the psychology of the physiology a little bit.

Just quickly here, guys. All right. Why do we evolve the gossip? Okay, social glue. In early human groups, gossip helped us keep tabs on who was shady, who you could trust, who you couldn't, who was cheating, who was maybe eating more than their fair share, who wasn't pulling their weight around the campfire. It was a survival tool.

Just quickly here, guys. All right. Why do we evolve the gossip? Okay, social glue. In early human groups, gossip helped us keep tabs on who was shady, who you could trust, who you couldn't, who was cheating, who was maybe eating more than their fair share, who wasn't pulling their weight around the campfire. It was a survival tool.

Instead of having to witness or experience someone being a monster... Are causing harm to you. Gossip let us learn from others experiences. Without risking harm ourselves. So it was like a. Like a little safety shortcut. Yeah. Okay so. So modern times. You hear someone say. Yeah my ex. Narcissistic asshole. Who farts in their sleep. They hate Bravo TV. And they think. Dogs are overrated.

Instead of having to witness or experience someone being a monster... Are causing harm to you. Gossip let us learn from others experiences. Without risking harm ourselves. So it was like a. Like a little safety shortcut. Yeah. Okay so. So modern times. You hear someone say. Yeah my ex. Narcissistic asshole. Who farts in their sleep. They hate Bravo TV. And they think. Dogs are overrated.

That's not shit-talking, okay? That is doing a public service. You're looking out for your fellow humans, right? Okay, I get it. So it's like tribal maintenance. We evolved in these small, tight-knit little groups, and gossiping was a little way to enforce social norms without violence. If you were a monster, a liability to the tribe, people talked about it and they acted on it.

That's not shit-talking, okay? That is doing a public service. You're looking out for your fellow humans, right? Okay, I get it. So it's like tribal maintenance. We evolved in these small, tight-knit little groups, and gossiping was a little way to enforce social norms without violence. If you were a monster, a liability to the tribe, people talked about it and they acted on it.

You were either shamed or banished or... You know, tarred and feathered, whatever. Also, again, it feels good. It does. You guys, when someone, you know, tells you a deep secret, it really does deepen your connections with them. And you're releasing the cuddle hormone, oxytocin. You guys know that one? The cuddle hormone? your dopamine spikes, especially if it's super spicy, juicy.

You were either shamed or banished or... You know, tarred and feathered, whatever. Also, again, it feels good. It does. You guys, when someone, you know, tells you a deep secret, it really does deepen your connections with them. And you're releasing the cuddle hormone, oxytocin. You guys know that one? The cuddle hormone? your dopamine spikes, especially if it's super spicy, juicy.

Shout out to Juicy Scoop, Heather McDonald. Yeah, it lights up our brain's reward circuitry. You know when someone, okay, guys, you know when someone's like, hey, can we meet up? I need to tell you something crazy. Your brain probably looks like the freaking 4th of July. You know what I mean? Dopamine off the charts. Cortisol way below usual. You're at peace. You're excited. You're chilling.

Shout out to Juicy Scoop, Heather McDonald. Yeah, it lights up our brain's reward circuitry. You know when someone, okay, guys, you know when someone's like, hey, can we meet up? I need to tell you something crazy. Your brain probably looks like the freaking 4th of July. You know what I mean? Dopamine off the charts. Cortisol way below usual. You're at peace. You're excited. You're chilling.

So yeah, in short, we're not talking shit. We're spreading the news. We're bonding. We're looking out for one another. Yeah. I mean, some people are just talking shit. Maybe I'm full of shit here. But let's gossip. It's not just petty. It's primal. How about that? Yeah, I like that. It's not just petty. It's primal. I dig that. My new motto. But yeah, let's lose it wisely, okay?

So yeah, in short, we're not talking shit. We're spreading the news. We're bonding. We're looking out for one another. Yeah. I mean, some people are just talking shit. Maybe I'm full of shit here. But let's gossip. It's not just petty. It's primal. How about that? Yeah, I like that. It's not just petty. It's primal. I dig that. My new motto. But yeah, let's lose it wisely, okay?

Switzerland Schwartz. But like, I like hearing about tea too. I dig pop culture, topical stuff. I'm a closet shit talker, but you know, it's usually done with purpose, constructive criticism. What's Zach say? Oh yeah, petty with purpose? Maybe I'm petty with purpose. Okay, I know I'm not a gossip queen. You guys know this. Maybe I'm a gossip peasant. Let me be your gossip peasant.

Switzerland Schwartz. But like, I like hearing about tea too. I dig pop culture, topical stuff. I'm a closet shit talker, but you know, it's usually done with purpose, constructive criticism. What's Zach say? Oh yeah, petty with purpose? Maybe I'm petty with purpose. Okay, I know I'm not a gossip queen. You guys know this. Maybe I'm a gossip peasant. Let me be your gossip peasant.

Let's not be toxic. Let's punch up and form one another, but let's not be a-holes, okay? All right, I'm going to shut up. I'm going to pack up my stuff, go meet up with Kiki. You guys want to come? Yeah? All right. All right. I'll pick up and we ho. Tom Tom. See you guys in a second.

Let's not be toxic. Let's punch up and form one another, but let's not be a-holes, okay? All right, I'm going to shut up. I'm going to pack up my stuff, go meet up with Kiki. You guys want to come? Yeah? All right. All right. I'll pick up and we ho. Tom Tom. See you guys in a second.

After World Dog Day, which was last Saturday. Okay. I talked about it earlier in the intro. I got to chill with the Vanderpump Villa cast.

After World Dog Day, which was last Saturday. Okay. I talked about it earlier in the intro. I got to chill with the Vanderpump Villa cast.

So cool. Okay. Such good vibes. We can come back to that. But that's usually when I know it's time to start filming. New season, new beginnings. Anything is possible.

So cool. Okay. Such good vibes. We can come back to that. But that's usually when I know it's time to start filming. New season, new beginnings. Anything is possible.

I got here at the tail end of the early 2000s, so I got a glimpse of the glitz and the glam. It still kind of felt like old school Hollywood. It still felt like it had lore, and it does, and it's still rich with history. I love L.A., but I totally agree with you. Like back in the 70s, 80s, when the Sunset Boulevard was rocking, whiskey a go-go.

I got here at the tail end of the early 2000s, so I got a glimpse of the glitz and the glam. It still kind of felt like old school Hollywood. It still felt like it had lore, and it does, and it's still rich with history. I love L.A., but I totally agree with you. Like back in the 70s, 80s, when the Sunset Boulevard was rocking, whiskey a go-go.

Exactly. Hookers everywhere. Wait, let's not romanticize. Are we romanticizing it in hindsight? We watched too much true crime. It's true. Did you watch the Sunset Boulevard documentary? I didn't. It's really good. Okay. Have you ever been to Chateau Marmont? I have. Yeah.

Exactly. Hookers everywhere. Wait, let's not romanticize. Are we romanticizing it in hindsight? We watched too much true crime. It's true. Did you watch the Sunset Boulevard documentary? I didn't. It's really good. Okay. Have you ever been to Chateau Marmont? I have. Yeah.

I've never actually stayed in one of the rooms, but I really dig it there. It just feels steeped in rock and roll history.

I've never actually stayed in one of the rooms, but I really dig it there. It just feels steeped in rock and roll history.

Now, sunken living rooms, talking pits, not talking pits. That doesn't sound right. That doesn't sound right. But anyways, it's nice to be sitting down. This is how do you feel about West Hollywood?

Now, sunken living rooms, talking pits, not talking pits. That doesn't sound right. That doesn't sound right. But anyways, it's nice to be sitting down. This is how do you feel about West Hollywood?

I feel like I know I'm straight, but I kind of feel like I'm actually a WeHo gay. Yeah. Some of my gay friends tell me I'm closet WeHo gay. I just love it here.

I feel like I know I'm straight, but I kind of feel like I'm actually a WeHo gay. Yeah. Some of my gay friends tell me I'm closet WeHo gay. I just love it here.

I'm like West Hollywood's number one promoter. My heart will always be here, even though I'm a Valley guy now.

I'm like West Hollywood's number one promoter. My heart will always be here, even though I'm a Valley guy now.

It's just something special to me. It's like I kind of feel like Pink Pony Club when I'm here. Pink Pony Club. I've always dreamed of living in Los Angeles. And when I'm out here, say I'm at the Abbey, it just feels so free. You can be whoever you want. Yeah. And it's just got the best energy, the pulse. I love it here.

It's just something special to me. It's like I kind of feel like Pink Pony Club when I'm here. Pink Pony Club. I've always dreamed of living in Los Angeles. And when I'm out here, say I'm at the Abbey, it just feels so free. You can be whoever you want. Yeah. And it's just got the best energy, the pulse. I love it here.

So I love that. We're day drinking, by the way, guys. We're day drinking here. For any of my listeners, I feel like most of my listeners know who you are. Kiki Monique.

So I love that. We're day drinking, by the way, guys. We're day drinking here. For any of my listeners, I feel like most of my listeners know who you are. Kiki Monique.

The great Kiki Monique. Can you introduce yourself?

The great Kiki Monique. Can you introduce yourself?

You've transcended that. I think so. And I love... You have hot takes, but I feel like whenever I see your stuff, you have... at least an undercurrent of compassion. You give us heathens humanity, and I appreciate that.

You've transcended that. I think so. And I love... You have hot takes, but I feel like whenever I see your stuff, you have... at least an undercurrent of compassion. You give us heathens humanity, and I appreciate that.

It hurts my feelings when you guys are like, it's not fun to talk shit with Schwartz. But I do. Okay, I enjoy it. By the way, how are you guys? Gang gang. I'm checking in. Harmony check. Vibe check. It's Friday right now. I know it's Tuesday for you. But TGIF for me. Thank you for everyone who came out last Saturday to TomTom. World Dog Day. I got to chill with the cast from Vanderpump Villa.

It hurts my feelings when you guys are like, it's not fun to talk shit with Schwartz. But I do. Okay, I enjoy it. By the way, how are you guys? Gang gang. I'm checking in. Harmony check. Vibe check. It's Friday right now. I know it's Tuesday for you. But TGIF for me. Thank you for everyone who came out last Saturday to TomTom. World Dog Day. I got to chill with the cast from Vanderpump Villa.

That's so interesting to hear because I'm friends with most of the pop culture gurus or pop culture. Is pop culture vulture a term of endearment?

That's so interesting to hear because I'm friends with most of the pop culture gurus or pop culture. Is pop culture vulture a term of endearment?

But sometimes I befriend them and then they'll hit me up beforehand. I'm like, listen. I got to weigh in on what happened with your divorce or whatever, X, Y, Z. I'm sorry. I went a little hard on you, although hit me up in hindsight. And I'm like, don't even worry about it. I'm a public figure. Thank you for reaching out. Thank you for the element of respect.

But sometimes I befriend them and then they'll hit me up beforehand. I'm like, listen. I got to weigh in on what happened with your divorce or whatever, X, Y, Z. I'm sorry. I went a little hard on you, although hit me up in hindsight. And I'm like, don't even worry about it. I'm a public figure. Thank you for reaching out. Thank you for the element of respect.

Oh, at least five times. At least five times. Have you ever said something about someone such as myself or someone in the Bravoverse or any reality TV show, a hot take, where they DM'd you and they're like, that really hurt my feelings, you hurt my soul?

Oh, at least five times. At least five times. Have you ever said something about someone such as myself or someone in the Bravoverse or any reality TV show, a hot take, where they DM'd you and they're like, that really hurt my feelings, you hurt my soul?

I appreciate that you didn't take it down. You didn't back down. No. See, I'm soft. I would have taken it down immediately. I'm so sorry for hurting your feelings, but I'm like, people don't realize that I do love sip. I like sipping and serving the tea. I do love me some pop culture. I like gossiping. Is it Kiki? Is it okay to gossip?

I appreciate that you didn't take it down. You didn't back down. No. See, I'm soft. I would have taken it down immediately. I'm so sorry for hurting your feelings, but I'm like, people don't realize that I do love sip. I like sipping and serving the tea. I do love me some pop culture. I like gossiping. Is it Kiki? Is it okay to gossip?

Totally. I mean from an evolutionary standpoint it's it's made us who we are today. It's deeply rooted in our psychology. Right. It's a bonding experience. Yeah. It's looking out for one another.

Totally. I mean from an evolutionary standpoint it's it's made us who we are today. It's deeply rooted in our psychology. Right. It's a bonding experience. Yeah. It's looking out for one another.

I don't want that.

I don't want that.

Kiki, everybody's going to say something. I'd be worried if they said nothing.

Kiki, everybody's going to say something. I'd be worried if they said nothing.

Yeah, I know. If you don't have haters, you're probably not doing it right.

Yeah, I know. If you don't have haters, you're probably not doing it right.

Oh crap. You guys, we're going to have to pause it for a second. Okay. You guys were in the field today.

Oh crap. You guys, we're going to have to pause it for a second. Okay. You guys were in the field today.

Yes, exactly. I'm not going to be the guy who's like the owner who's like, keep the music off. Yeah. I got to get my interview done. By the way, I hate it when I go into a bar or restaurant and there's no music playing.

Yes, exactly. I'm not going to be the guy who's like the owner who's like, keep the music off. Yeah. I got to get my interview done. By the way, I hate it when I go into a bar or restaurant and there's no music playing.

Rarely in West Hollywood. Some places, some of the bougier places, Beverly Hills, it's quiet. I don't want to hear, I don't like overhearing people's conversations. I mean, I love to gossip. If it's juicy, if someone's breaking up or they're spilling tea, yes.

Rarely in West Hollywood. Some places, some of the bougier places, Beverly Hills, it's quiet. I don't want to hear, I don't like overhearing people's conversations. I mean, I love to gossip. If it's juicy, if someone's breaking up or they're spilling tea, yes.

Well, I was trained by Katie Maloney, my ex-wife. Shout out to Katie Maloney. No, I'm just kidding. Just friends, family. I have a reputation as being overly diplomatic. People think I'm not fun to gossip with. And I want to gossip with you. Is that okay? I want to hear some gossip. I was thinking, okay, so can we talk about the Diddy Trial a little bit? Of course.

Well, I was trained by Katie Maloney, my ex-wife. Shout out to Katie Maloney. No, I'm just kidding. Just friends, family. I have a reputation as being overly diplomatic. People think I'm not fun to gossip with. And I want to gossip with you. Is that okay? I want to hear some gossip. I was thinking, okay, so can we talk about the Diddy Trial a little bit? Of course.

I haven't talked about any of this stuff on my podcast so far. Yeah. Can you do like a brief overview? Sure. Yeah, I just listened to Kid Cudi's testimony. I'd like to talk about that a little bit, but yeah.

I haven't talked about any of this stuff on my podcast so far. Yeah. Can you do like a brief overview? Sure. Yeah, I just listened to Kid Cudi's testimony. I'd like to talk about that a little bit, but yeah.

Yeah. He's a villain.

Yeah. He's a villain.

I'm still trying to connect it to the crimes. I mean, for people who haven't been following a trial, can you give some talk, some context to the reference to Tootsie Rolls?

I'm still trying to connect it to the crimes. I mean, for people who haven't been following a trial, can you give some talk, some context to the reference to Tootsie Rolls?

Hosted them for brunch. Everybody was so cool. Vibes immaculate. Love to see them, you know, just doing their thing. Riding their first...

Hosted them for brunch. Everybody was so cool. Vibes immaculate. Love to see them, you know, just doing their thing. Riding their first...

Which is information I... I don't need to know. It's too much. Just like I found out that Diddy apparently likes applesauce on his cheeseburgers. Yes. How fucked up is that?

Which is information I... I don't need to know. It's too much. Just like I found out that Diddy apparently likes applesauce on his cheeseburgers. Yes. How fucked up is that?

No, you've, you've always been better about setting boundaries, but also you're really gregarious and super friendly to fans. I see that. And I know they appreciate that.

No, you've, you've always been better about setting boundaries, but also you're really gregarious and super friendly to fans. I see that. And I know they appreciate that.

I aim to please, master, people pleaser over here.

I aim to please, master, people pleaser over here.

I have healthy boundaries and my peace is protected now. I'm not on a lease for, I'll just say five figures a month. And I feel like I can breathe again, nice deep breaths, very mindful, very present. I'm not floundering.

I have healthy boundaries and my peace is protected now. I'm not on a lease for, I'll just say five figures a month. And I feel like I can breathe again, nice deep breaths, very mindful, very present. I'm not floundering.

Well, maybe aside from like the federal government as technically there's still a schedule one drug, but they're being heavily researched and heralded further practical applications, curbing addiction, PTSD. We're just here at the beginning with the potential of shrooms. So yeah, let's get into it. What is the deal with microdosing?

Well, maybe aside from like the federal government as technically there's still a schedule one drug, but they're being heavily researched and heralded further practical applications, curbing addiction, PTSD. We're just here at the beginning with the potential of shrooms. So yeah, let's get into it. What is the deal with microdosing?

Oh, no, it's great. My boundaries are up.

Oh, no, it's great. My boundaries are up.

Don't drink too much with them. Don't follow them on Instagram. Definitely don't give out your number. Okay.

Don't drink too much with them. Don't follow them on Instagram. Definitely don't give out your number. Okay.

You're like, this is 101 shit.

You're like, this is 101 shit.

The look she just gave me, you guys. I was coming back from Tom Tom because I've been trying to get brunch popping again the other day. And Donna texted me on the way home. Donna's the new homeowner. She bought our home.

The look she just gave me, you guys. I was coming back from Tom Tom because I've been trying to get brunch popping again the other day. And Donna texted me on the way home. Donna's the new homeowner. She bought our home.

No, but my mail still goes there.

No, but my mail still goes there.

I don't know. And she's like, bro, your mail is still coming.

I don't know. And she's like, bro, your mail is still coming.

It's just two things from two banks. And honestly, I just tell her to throw it out every time. But sometimes when I drive by the house, I just, I don't get sad. But this is not a cry for help. But I sometimes will shed like a tear. It's not like a sad tear. It's not a happy tear. But it's just kind of a nostalgic tear, you know? I'm just like, I miss that crib.

It's just two things from two banks. And honestly, I just tell her to throw it out every time. But sometimes when I drive by the house, I just, I don't get sad. But this is not a cry for help. But I sometimes will shed like a tear. It's not like a sad tear. It's not a happy tear. But it's just kind of a nostalgic tear, you know? I'm just like, I miss that crib.

I know. I know.

I know. I know.

Very tastefully, mind you. By the way, it's not something masochistic.

Very tastefully, mind you. By the way, it's not something masochistic.

I sit across the street and I play the Vanderbilt rules theme song.

I sit across the street and I play the Vanderbilt rules theme song.

There's things I'm working on but like shout out to the hundredth episode Disrespectively if you don't follow follow now tomorrow Tom will be on disrespect places like this is a twofer This is a back-to-back you're killing it by the way before we move on like I remember when the show was ending you were pretty vocal about not wanting to come back even if we did get another season and people gave you so much shit they were hitting you with the sure Jan meme and

There's things I'm working on but like shout out to the hundredth episode Disrespectively if you don't follow follow now tomorrow Tom will be on disrespect places like this is a twofer This is a back-to-back you're killing it by the way before we move on like I remember when the show was ending you were pretty vocal about not wanting to come back even if we did get another season and people gave you so much shit they were hitting you with the sure Jan meme and

I saw that a lot, but like, I think you were being honest. I think it wasn't a, it wasn't a deflection or a self-defense thing. I think you had made peace with being done with the show. Yeah.

I saw that a lot, but like, I think you were being honest. I think it wasn't a, it wasn't a deflection or a self-defense thing. I think you had made peace with being done with the show. Yeah.

So microdosing is the practice of taking a sub-perceptual dose of psychedelic mushrooms, maybe around like a 10th to one 20th of a full dose. You don't hallucinate or trip, but you might

So microdosing is the practice of taking a sub-perceptual dose of psychedelic mushrooms, maybe around like a 10th to one 20th of a full dose. You don't hallucinate or trip, but you might

Yeah. By the way, I feel like, well, Listen, it is a great job. It's a great job to have. It's like, you know, you get to fly first class. It's like, obviously, being a cast member on a Bravo television show, not to be a brown nose over here, but it's pretty freaking awesome. Right, Katie? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It has many fringe benefits and...

Yeah. By the way, I feel like, well, Listen, it is a great job. It's a great job to have. It's like, you know, you get to fly first class. It's like, obviously, being a cast member on a Bravo television show, not to be a brown nose over here, but it's pretty freaking awesome. Right, Katie? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It has many fringe benefits and...

I get it it's starting to feel it might have felt a little contrived had we had another season the reason I was rooting for another season not obvious reasons not more money but I was like I didn't love the way it ended it just felt like such a chasm it kind of felt sad because even though we were highly dysfunctional Katie you know more better than anybody we were like also a big happy dysfunctional family for a while not at the end there not at the end there there was no family vibes I know it's just like we spent 10 a decade together and all of a sudden like nobody's talking to each other well some people talk to each other but

I get it it's starting to feel it might have felt a little contrived had we had another season the reason I was rooting for another season not obvious reasons not more money but I was like I didn't love the way it ended it just felt like such a chasm it kind of felt sad because even though we were highly dysfunctional Katie you know more better than anybody we were like also a big happy dysfunctional family for a while not at the end there not at the end there there was no family vibes I know it's just like we spent 10 a decade together and all of a sudden like nobody's talking to each other well some people talk to each other but

feel a subtle shift in your mood your focus your clarity maybe like a nice pleasant body high maybe some giggles why do people do it yeah let's let's break down the potential benefits okay mood boosting yes many users report reduced symptoms of anxiety depression uh microdosing can kind of gently lift the fog with other side effects of traditional meds um it can lead to increased focus and creativity think of think of it as like kind of like a brain tune-up

feel a subtle shift in your mood your focus your clarity maybe like a nice pleasant body high maybe some giggles why do people do it yeah let's let's break down the potential benefits okay mood boosting yes many users report reduced symptoms of anxiety depression uh microdosing can kind of gently lift the fog with other side effects of traditional meds um it can lead to increased focus and creativity think of think of it as like kind of like a brain tune-up

Yeah, I remember. I don't even know if you know this, but I found out, well, I chose a month away from our last day open at Schwartz and Sandy's. I chose, we all decided as a group, partners, what day is going to be our last day. So in my mind, Schwartz and Sandy's is officially closing. Bittersweet. We're not going to go into that.

Yeah, I remember. I don't even know if you know this, but I found out, well, I chose a month away from our last day open at Schwartz and Sandy's. I chose, we all decided as a group, partners, what day is going to be our last day. So in my mind, Schwartz and Sandy's is officially closing. Bittersweet. We're not going to go into that.

But then the next day I found out from our executive producer that Vanderpump Rules is ending. And it just was like, I was like, that's my whole life, man.

But then the next day I found out from our executive producer that Vanderpump Rules is ending. And it just was like, I was like, that's my whole life, man.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I thought we were going to do an abbreviated season. It was in talks, but we just couldn't get the right chemistry going. I'm not a producer. I'm not behind the scenes.

I thought we were going to do an abbreviated season. It was in talks, but we just couldn't get the right chemistry going. I'm not a producer. I'm not behind the scenes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you going to watch the new Vanderpump Rules?

Are you going to watch the new Vanderpump Rules?

It's filming as we speak, I think.

It's filming as we speak, I think.

Okay. Well, listen, that's a hot take.

Okay. Well, listen, that's a hot take.

Yeah. Well, I think it will be. With the same name, different show.

Yeah. Well, I think it will be. With the same name, different show.

We had lightning in a bottle. We were all living together, dating each other, best friends. We were hanging out before the show, but I think everyone knows that. I think that speaks to the magic of the show.

We had lightning in a bottle. We were all living together, dating each other, best friends. We were hanging out before the show, but I think everyone knows that. I think that speaks to the magic of the show.

Yeah, well said, by the way. But you watched The Valley?

Yeah, well said, by the way. But you watched The Valley?

It's so good. It's weird saying that because they're all people I know and hang out with. But if I can step away from my friendship with them objectively, it's such a good show.

It's so good. It's weird saying that because they're all people I know and hang out with. But if I can step away from my friendship with them objectively, it's such a good show.

Has he seen any Vanderpump Rules?

Has he seen any Vanderpump Rules?

Yeah.

Yeah.

No.

No.

Best and worst moments.

Best and worst moments.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay. We're getting a little Barbara Walters. So let's lean into it. Well, first of all, you guys were happily, respectfully separated.

Okay. We're getting a little Barbara Walters. So let's lean into it. Well, first of all, you guys were happily, respectfully separated.

Divorced. But is there anything you miss? I'm not saying about me or our relationship, but anything you miss about that old life?

Divorced. But is there anything you miss? I'm not saying about me or our relationship, but anything you miss about that old life?

We did. I feel like people never saw us like, I know we were dysfunctional. We had many issues, but like, we also had a lot of fun. There was a lot of love.

We did. I feel like people never saw us like, I know we were dysfunctional. We had many issues, but like, we also had a lot of fun. There was a lot of love.

Yeah. On that note.

Yeah. On that note.

Well, I don't know. I didn't mean to cut you off. Like what, what, What are your fondest? Cause I get asked this every interview. It's very stock, but what are your fondest when you close your eyes and think of the past 11 seasons, what are your fondest happiest moments or like just most hilarious moments on Vanderpump rules?

Well, I don't know. I didn't mean to cut you off. Like what, what, What are your fondest? Cause I get asked this every interview. It's very stock, but what are your fondest when you close your eyes and think of the past 11 seasons, what are your fondest happiest moments or like just most hilarious moments on Vanderpump rules?

It may help with problem solving, thinking outside the box, getting into a flow state, more and more creative thinking. Also, improved emotional balance. Yes, microdosing can create more of a space between the stimulus and the reaction, making it easier to respond rather than react. Enhanced connections, like I talked about earlier. You might feel more in tune with your environment. Mother Nature.

It may help with problem solving, thinking outside the box, getting into a flow state, more and more creative thinking. Also, improved emotional balance. Yes, microdosing can create more of a space between the stimulus and the reaction, making it easier to respond rather than react. Enhanced connections, like I talked about earlier. You might feel more in tune with your environment. Mother Nature.

You guys, we would grip it and rip it on the trips.

You guys, we would grip it and rip it on the trips.

No, for real. Our wedding was for me literally the worst hangover I've ever had in my entire life.

No, for real. Our wedding was for me literally the worst hangover I've ever had in my entire life.

We couldn't even drive.

We couldn't even drive.

Fresh start. It's spring. Like we have, we hope we always start around like we hope pride. We all love that. And it just was always good energy in the beginning. And then I guess it would slowly descend into chaos.

Fresh start. It's spring. Like we have, we hope we always start around like we hope pride. We all love that. And it just was always good energy in the beginning. And then I guess it would slowly descend into chaos.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, no, we, we had, we were down and out sometimes.

No, no, we, we had, we were down and out sometimes.

Oh, stars on Mars.

Oh, stars on Mars.

Yeah, I did. I remember in the beginning I was like, I don't know if I want to do this. I'm an artist. I'm an actor. You're like, Tom, you've done a Kohl's commercial. Relax. Listen, that Kohl's commercial changed my life because it gave me the confidence because I was in a room full of people more talented and better looking than me. And then I booked that and I was like, how did I book this?

Yeah, I did. I remember in the beginning I was like, I don't know if I want to do this. I'm an artist. I'm an actor. You're like, Tom, you've done a Kohl's commercial. Relax. Listen, that Kohl's commercial changed my life because it gave me the confidence because I was in a room full of people more talented and better looking than me. And then I booked that and I was like, how did I book this?

Maybe I have something. Maybe I have something.

Maybe I have something. Maybe I have something.

I haven't heard that.

I haven't heard that.

Oh my God. You guys, just in case you don't know in the business, I hate mayonnaise and Katie rubs it in my face. But no, in the industry, if you ask somebody, if you're like, oh my God, what are you guys filming? Anybody for production will tell you we're filming a mayonnaise commercial.

Oh my God. You guys, just in case you don't know in the business, I hate mayonnaise and Katie rubs it in my face. But no, in the industry, if you ask somebody, if you're like, oh my God, what are you guys filming? Anybody for production will tell you we're filming a mayonnaise commercial.

Wait, Barbara Walters round two. Okay. I got to ask you this. What did you learn about yourself through our relationship and everything that came after it?

Wait, Barbara Walters round two. Okay. I got to ask you this. What did you learn about yourself through our relationship and everything that came after it?

That's a deep one.

That's a deep one.

yeah i like that if you could go back and i wouldn't want to go back and change anything like you said earlier but if you could go back and maybe change one moment and and you cannot say not marry me okay in our relationship no no no just in the show on the show i was like damn you can't hit me are you sorry i stole your thunder well you're asking about what i learned about myself in our relationship but now you're going back to the show

yeah i like that if you could go back and i wouldn't want to go back and change anything like you said earlier but if you could go back and maybe change one moment and and you cannot say not marry me okay in our relationship no no no just in the show on the show i was like damn you can't hit me are you sorry i stole your thunder well you're asking about what i learned about myself in our relationship but now you're going back to the show

They're one in the same, yeah.

They're one in the same, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Listen, listen, that's a little deep.

Oh, yeah. Listen, listen, that's a little deep.

I don't remember what I asked you after that. I literally, no, I asked you what you learned through, you know, about yourself post our relationship. Yeah. And then if you could change anything and go back in time.

I don't remember what I asked you after that. I literally, no, I asked you what you learned through, you know, about yourself post our relationship. Yeah. And then if you could change anything and go back in time.

Oh, God. I get asked this every interview and I never know what to say because they're like,

Oh, God. I get asked this every interview and I never know what to say because they're like,

do you still talk to Tequila Katie? She's in there.

do you still talk to Tequila Katie? She's in there.

The people around you. It's subtle, but it's grounding. Yes, more mindful, more present. It can help you feel more in the moment, which is especially important in an ever digital age. You know, we're all chronically online these days. It's also important to remember that everybody's body and brain are different.

The people around you. It's subtle, but it's grounding. Yes, more mindful, more present. It can help you feel more in the moment, which is especially important in an ever digital age. You know, we're all chronically online these days. It's also important to remember that everybody's body and brain are different.

What?

What?

That's fun.

That's fun.

That's diabolical.

That's diabolical.

I want one right now.

I want one right now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's downtown, isn't it?

That's downtown, isn't it?

Oh, nice.

Oh, nice.

We still love a good dive bar, don't we?

We still love a good dive bar, don't we?

Yeah. The only bars I go to is pretty much Tom Tom. Sometimes I help over at Jax's bar. I go to the, I go to the Bayou a lot. I'm not going to lie.

Yeah. The only bars I go to is pretty much Tom Tom. Sometimes I help over at Jax's bar. I go to the, I go to the Bayou a lot. I'm not going to lie.

Well, I mean, I go and then I have my regular spots in the valley, like black market liquor bar. I don't want to bore the audience.

Well, I mean, I go and then I have my regular spots in the valley, like black market liquor bar. I don't want to bore the audience.

Yeah. I know. There's a good energy in that little strip over there. I was thinking about, and I'm going to run this by you. What if I opened a dive bar in the valley and I called it, ready for this? Once upon a Tom.

Yeah. I know. There's a good energy in that little strip over there. I was thinking about, and I'm going to run this by you. What if I opened a dive bar in the valley and I called it, ready for this? Once upon a Tom.

Listen.

Listen.

lesson learned um by the way i actually almost did a pop-up in san francisco and i don't it's not like i'm saying don't go sorry in business friends but don't with your friends no specifically but listen lesson learned over here katie can we tell this to the audience what what you just said but directed at the audience you guys be very wary of going into a high stakes business with the lease with your friends and i'm not talking trash i learned a lot it was a very valuable lesson

lesson learned um by the way i actually almost did a pop-up in san francisco and i don't it's not like i'm saying don't go sorry in business friends but don't with your friends no specifically but listen lesson learned over here katie can we tell this to the audience what what you just said but directed at the audience you guys be very wary of going into a high stakes business with the lease with your friends and i'm not talking trash i learned a lot it was a very valuable lesson

We don't say that. We don't say the S word. I don't like saying it either. We say you know what of all.

We don't say that. We don't say the S word. I don't like saying it either. We say you know what of all.

That's what we all say.

That's what we all say.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't see him nearly as much anymore. I got to be honest. He's very much in love. He's working.

I don't see him nearly as much anymore. I got to be honest. He's very much in love. He's working.

Well, that was because I wanted to go see.

Well, that was because I wanted to go see.

I, okay. Should we talk about this? You guys, am I too old to be doing appearances? Am I washed up? Here's the thing. After each one, every time I'm like, oh, I had such a good run. I've probably done a hundred appearances. They pay well. But I actually, also, I love people. And it's like, I'm not in the bars as much as I used to. And my peace is back. And I love that. But I also do love hosting.

I, okay. Should we talk about this? You guys, am I too old to be doing appearances? Am I washed up? Here's the thing. After each one, every time I'm like, oh, I had such a good run. I've probably done a hundred appearances. They pay well. But I actually, also, I love people. And it's like, I'm not in the bars as much as I used to. And my peace is back. And I love that. But I also do love hosting.

What works wonders for one person may not do that for the other person or maybe too much. That's why most protocols recommend microdosing every third day or so to avoid building a tolerance and you want to stay in tune with how you're feeling. Also, side note, if you're going through something dark or you have heavy anxiety, a life crisis, sometimes shrooms can also enhance a bad feeling.

What works wonders for one person may not do that for the other person or maybe too much. That's why most protocols recommend microdosing every third day or so to avoid building a tolerance and you want to stay in tune with how you're feeling. Also, side note, if you're going through something dark or you have heavy anxiety, a life crisis, sometimes shrooms can also enhance a bad feeling.

Butters are shaking.

Butters are shaking.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Don't have much left over for the people who matter the most.

Don't have much left over for the people who matter the most.

I'm past that, just so you know. You look incredulous.

I'm past that, just so you know. You look incredulous.

I'm not around enough to know this, but I feel like, yeah, well, ever since I've closed Schwartz and Sandy's and also I moved to a new beautiful place, like I'm so happy. I feel like I'm, I feel like I'm just, I'm in my ideal spot in North Hollywood, by the way, your place, your new place is gorgeous. I think I can speak for both of us when I say we don't miss our old spots.

I'm not around enough to know this, but I feel like, yeah, well, ever since I've closed Schwartz and Sandy's and also I moved to a new beautiful place, like I'm so happy. I feel like I'm, I feel like I'm just, I'm in my ideal spot in North Hollywood, by the way, your place, your new place is gorgeous. I think I can speak for both of us when I say we don't miss our old spots.

I know. By the way, we crushed it on selling our house. We bought it the perfect time, 2019, and we sold at a great time too. I'm not going to say how much we made. Maybe it was already on the show, but anyways. No, I'm not talking about that. But shit, man. Listen, it's nice to sit down with you.

I know. By the way, we crushed it on selling our house. We bought it the perfect time, 2019, and we sold at a great time too. I'm not going to say how much we made. Maybe it was already on the show, but anyways. No, I'm not talking about that. But shit, man. Listen, it's nice to sit down with you.

It's nice chilling here with the boys.

It's nice chilling here with the boys.

Nah, I didn't want to get too deep, honestly.

Nah, I didn't want to get too deep, honestly.

No, this has actually been nice. I just, yeah. I honestly was just more curious if you're sentimental and nostalgic about Vanderpump Rules.

No, this has actually been nice. I just, yeah. I honestly was just more curious if you're sentimental and nostalgic about Vanderpump Rules.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, it's bittersweet. I know it's so like cliche to say, but I think that's the perfect description. The ending of the show was bittersweet. Yeah, but... Mostly sweet.

Well, it's bittersweet. I know it's so like cliche to say, but I think that's the perfect description. The ending of the show was bittersweet. Yeah, but... Mostly sweet.

It's similar.

It's similar.

At one point, yeah. That was the direction.

At one point, yeah. That was the direction.

Well, I mean, he was instrumental in it, but listen, let's not give him that.

Well, I mean, he was instrumental in it, but listen, let's not give him that.

Yeah, he's not a big fan of... He's your neighbor, though.

Yeah, he's not a big fan of... He's your neighbor, though.

Your business partner. He is my neighbor. That was not by choice, but he's actually been really...

Your business partner. He is my neighbor. That was not by choice, but he's actually been really...

We were mongrels in that building. That building was... We had some nights in that building.

We were mongrels in that building. That building was... We had some nights in that building.

So just be careful. They're not a cure-all, but they're a tool. Yes, I like that. They're a tool. Microdosing, it's magical. But it's not magic. It won't fix deep trauma overnight or replace therapy. But it can be like a gentle companion on the path to healing, clarity, and maybe, hopefully, a little personal growth. So without further ado, let's microdose. Here we go.

So just be careful. They're not a cure-all, but they're a tool. Yes, I like that. They're a tool. Microdosing, it's magical. But it's not magic. It won't fix deep trauma overnight or replace therapy. But it can be like a gentle companion on the path to healing, clarity, and maybe, hopefully, a little personal growth. So without further ado, let's microdose. Here we go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I still love West Hollywood. I go there all the time. But anyways, yeah. Anyway, it's nice to sit down with you. And even though we're happily separated, you know, we're divorced.

No, I still love West Hollywood. I go there all the time. But anyways, yeah. Anyway, it's nice to sit down with you. And even though we're happily separated, you know, we're divorced.

It's OK. Divorced.

It's OK. Divorced.

Tomato, tomato. No, I don't think so. But no, there's a there's a little part of me that always still loves you. And it's so nice to sit down and chill with you.

Tomato, tomato. No, I don't think so. But no, there's a there's a little part of me that always still loves you. And it's so nice to sit down and chill with you.

Yeah. And I'm glad to see you so happy. And I'm glad we're I'm glad we're I'm glad we're friends. I know we're not besties, but I love seeing you. And I'm glad that I'm not just somebody that you used to know.

Yeah. And I'm glad to see you so happy. And I'm glad we're I'm glad we're I'm glad we're friends. I know we're not besties, but I love seeing you. And I'm glad that I'm not just somebody that you used to know.

He's coming back in a major way.

He's coming back in a major way.

And I'm saying the song is everywhere now. Everywhere.

And I'm saying the song is everywhere now. Everywhere.

My world.

My world.

That song cuts deep and it's so real because it shows both sides of the story. You know what I mean? And both are valid and understandable, but it's important to hear both sides.

That song cuts deep and it's so real because it shows both sides of the story. You know what I mean? And both are valid and understandable, but it's important to hear both sides.

I know. It's like, I think we both fall in love easy. We meet people easily, but yeah, I remember after we separated, I just like it. It's the thought of like meeting someone, moving in together.

I know. It's like, I think we both fall in love easy. We meet people easily, but yeah, I remember after we separated, I just like it. It's the thought of like meeting someone, moving in together.

No, I did not.

No, I did not.

No. Am I crazy? Wait.

No. Am I crazy? Wait.

Don't you do this to me. She didn't move in. She would hang out there sometimes.

Don't you do this to me. She didn't move in. She would hang out there sometimes.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay, let's not open up that can of worms. Let's not open up that can of worms. We were doing so well there.

Okay, let's not open up that can of worms. Let's not open up that can of worms. We were doing so well there.

I got witches of WeHo in the system. My microdose is flowing. Do you feel like anything?

I got witches of WeHo in the system. My microdose is flowing. Do you feel like anything?

Well, don't blame the microdose.

Well, don't blame the microdose.

It takes like 30 minutes to set in.

It takes like 30 minutes to set in.

I know. I took mine before, so I feel nice. Okay, well. Sorry, I didn't mean to rub it in.

I know. I took mine before, so I feel nice. Okay, well. Sorry, I didn't mean to rub it in.

Yeah, no. But this has been nice. Yeah. It's good to see you. I'm so happy you're happy.

Yeah, no. But this has been nice. Yeah. It's good to see you. I'm so happy you're happy.

Can we give one more shout out? Something about her podcast, Disrespectfully. Shout out to Nick. Yeah. Want me to gush about Nick for a little bit more?

Can we give one more shout out? Something about her podcast, Disrespectfully. Shout out to Nick. Yeah. Want me to gush about Nick for a little bit more?

He's a literal rock star.

He's a literal rock star.

But anyways, I love you. I love you too.

But anyways, I love you. I love you too.

Let me ask one more thing. Do people still call you Bubba? Like fans or strangers?

Let me ask one more thing. Do people still call you Bubba? Like fans or strangers?