Tim Ferriss

Hold on. I'm not saying the feminine broadly. Just hear me out here. These are not mutually exclusive. This can apply to men just as equally, right? If they don't have the ability to long-term plan and focus on something for extended periods of time, then very frequently they also cannot break down complex, think through complex problems.

Hold on. I'm not saying the feminine broadly. Just hear me out here. These are not mutually exclusive. This can apply to men just as equally, right? If they don't have the ability to long-term plan and focus on something for extended periods of time, then very frequently they also cannot break down complex, think through complex problems.

Right? Whether that's like how to school your kids, vaccination, no vaccination, right? These are very complex problems that require critical thinking and cross-examining your own thinking.

Right? Whether that's like how to school your kids, vaccination, no vaccination, right? These are very complex problems that require critical thinking and cross-examining your own thinking.

That's hard, right? But like, God forbid something happens to me and I have kids, I want to have full confidence that my partner is resourceful and will figure shit out, right? There are a lot of amazing people in the world. You have to have a way of narrowing it down. If somebody doesn't have a LinkedIn, but they have an Instagram, I think that's often a problem.

That's hard, right? But like, God forbid something happens to me and I have kids, I want to have full confidence that my partner is resourceful and will figure shit out, right? There are a lot of amazing people in the world. You have to have a way of narrowing it down. If somebody doesn't have a LinkedIn, but they have an Instagram, I think that's often a problem.

If I look on their LinkedIn and it's, oh, every job has been six to 12 months, probably not for me.

If I look on their LinkedIn and it's, oh, every job has been six to 12 months, probably not for me.

You know what I mean though?

You know what I mean though?

I want to know that someone has been able to handle hard things.

I want to know that someone has been able to handle hard things.

Also why skiing is interesting. Stick with it-ness. Yeah. Have you gone to, as an example, this is going to seem maybe unreasonable, but have you done something reasonably hard? Have you had a job and stuck with it for at least a handful of years or started your own company and built it for a handful of years? Have you done something hard that requires resilience and dealing with setbacks? If not,

Also why skiing is interesting. Stick with it-ness. Yeah. Have you gone to, as an example, this is going to seem maybe unreasonable, but have you done something reasonably hard? Have you had a job and stuck with it for at least a handful of years or started your own company and built it for a handful of years? Have you done something hard that requires resilience and dealing with setbacks? If not,

I hate to say it, but that's life, right? And if you're in a job and you aren't resilient, you can hop to another job hoping it'll be easier or better and then hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop. If you're in a relationship, what are you going to do? It ends up turning into a big mess. So I really want someone who's done something Stressful. I can have confidence that they can handle stress.

I hate to say it, but that's life, right? And if you're in a job and you aren't resilient, you can hop to another job hoping it'll be easier or better and then hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop. If you're in a relationship, what are you going to do? It ends up turning into a big mess. So I really want someone who's done something Stressful. I can have confidence that they can handle stress.

So I do that for three to five minutes and then I might hop into, I have an endless pool machine. So it creates a current in your swimming pool so that you can swim against it. So you can do the equivalent of open water swimming. Do that for literally five to 10 minutes to get the heart pumping. And then that's it. That's the morning. And there might be cases if I'm feeling like,

So I do that for three to five minutes and then I might hop into, I have an endless pool machine. So it creates a current in your swimming pool so that you can swim against it. So you can do the equivalent of open water swimming. Do that for literally five to 10 minutes to get the heart pumping. And then that's it. That's the morning. And there might be cases if I'm feeling like,

I would sum it up with a woman who doesn't have problems with these terms, feminine and masculine, number one, who recognizes the strengths in both, but who probably is pretty far out on the nurturing, family-oriented side. Someone for whom that is not an inner conflict. They know they want kids and family. Yes. That is uncomplicated. Super clear. Yeah. Super clear. Not, I don't know.

I would sum it up with a woman who doesn't have problems with these terms, feminine and masculine, number one, who recognizes the strengths in both, but who probably is pretty far out on the nurturing, family-oriented side. Someone for whom that is not an inner conflict. They know they want kids and family. Yes. That is uncomplicated. Super clear. Yeah. Super clear. Not, I don't know.

Maybe I'm not sure. None of that. I don't want to deal with that. I don't have time for that right now. And I'm clear on what I want. So I want someone who's clear that they want the same thing. Active, fit, outdoorsy, skiing, snowboarding, ideal. Curious, reads a lot, good at critical thinking, and has done hard stuff over extended periods of time.

Maybe I'm not sure. None of that. I don't want to deal with that. I don't have time for that right now. And I'm clear on what I want. So I want someone who's clear that they want the same thing. Active, fit, outdoorsy, skiing, snowboarding, ideal. Curious, reads a lot, good at critical thinking, and has done hard stuff over extended periods of time.

Yeah, let's see. I'll create a URL.

Yeah, let's see. I'll create a URL.

Because otherwise, like Instagram or DM or whatever, it's just impossible.

Because otherwise, like Instagram or DM or whatever, it's just impossible.

Pioneering new ways. I'll create a URL. Tim.blog. That's my website. Tim.blog.com.

Pioneering new ways. I'll create a URL. Tim.blog. That's my website. Tim.blog.com.

Yeah, I'll create a page for it because the social media stuff is going to be impossible.

Yeah, I'll create a page for it because the social media stuff is going to be impossible.

I'm in the market. And I'll add one more thing, which is like my ex-girlfriends over the last 10, 12 years, they all ended on good terms. Like I'm in good relationships with those people. They're amazing. And they're amazing women. Like they're all amazing in their own way. I think I'm a pretty good boyfriend. I gotta be honest. So not perfect. I got my own stuff.

I'm in the market. And I'll add one more thing, which is like my ex-girlfriends over the last 10, 12 years, they all ended on good terms. Like I'm in good relationships with those people. They're amazing. And they're amazing women. Like they're all amazing in their own way. I think I'm a pretty good boyfriend. I gotta be honest. So not perfect. I got my own stuff.

We all have our own stuff, but I'm ready for the next chapter.

We all have our own stuff, but I'm ready for the next chapter.

You can find my ex-girlfriend references on LinkedIn.

You can find my ex-girlfriend references on LinkedIn.

I can have fun in other ways.

I can have fun in other ways.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay. You ready?

Okay. You ready?

Oh, if the answer is yes. If the answer is yes. Oh, yeah, for sure. You did? Oh, yeah, of course. To start my first company out of college.

Oh, if the answer is yes. If the answer is yes. Oh, yeah, for sure. You did? Oh, yeah, of course. To start my first company out of college.

Okay, yes, if I put a finger down.

Okay, yes, if I put a finger down.

No, I usually pay for it.

No, I usually pay for it.

If I realize that it's a setup for, oh, I have this book I want to advise on a startup or something, it's some bullshit, then sometimes I'll split. Usually at this point in my life, it's just too much brain damage to deal with like...

If I realize that it's a setup for, oh, I have this book I want to advise on a startup or something, it's some bullshit, then sometimes I'll split. Usually at this point in my life, it's just too much brain damage to deal with like...

the risk of some woman going on social media and going on some rampage but like i went on a date with tim ferris and here's what happened yeah you made me pay for half the check or whatever but earlier sure yeah split the check okay if it's just a setup if i've been if someone's been deceptive then you can pay for half the meal okay fair yeah never have i ever invested in crypto

the risk of some woman going on social media and going on some rampage but like i went on a date with tim ferris and here's what happened yeah you made me pay for half the check or whatever but earlier sure yeah split the check okay if it's just a setup if i've been if someone's been deceptive then you can pay for half the meal okay fair yeah never have i ever invested in crypto

I have invested in crypto.

I have invested in crypto.

No. I've done well in crypto, but I think most of it is a shell game. I'm just not convinced that the theses upon which I based those investments make any sense now.

No. I've done well in crypto, but I think most of it is a shell game. I'm just not convinced that the theses upon which I based those investments make any sense now.

People view it as an inflation hedge, and it's... inversely correlated. I'm like, it doesn't seem to be the case. It seems to be highly liquid and it just like more or less tracks S&P 500. So do I want coming back to our correlated uncorrelated? I'm like, eh, like I've done very well. I'm very grateful for my friends who got me into some of this crypto stuff.

People view it as an inflation hedge, and it's... inversely correlated. I'm like, it doesn't seem to be the case. It seems to be highly liquid and it just like more or less tracks S&P 500. So do I want coming back to our correlated uncorrelated? I'm like, eh, like I've done very well. I'm very grateful for my friends who got me into some of this crypto stuff.

I did. Yeah. But would I invest in it now? Probably not.

I did. Yeah. But would I invest in it now? Probably not.

I played lottery.

I played lottery.

Yeah, but I view it as entertainment. It's like to buy lottery tickets for everybody in my family if I don't see them as often as I would like. And it's like, hey, guys, all right, we have this crazy Powerball. Now we get to sit down and watch and see what happens.

Yeah, but I view it as entertainment. It's like to buy lottery tickets for everybody in my family if I don't see them as often as I would like. And it's like, hey, guys, all right, we have this crazy Powerball. Now we get to sit down and watch and see what happens.

like I'm caught up in the whirlwind. If I might be a little distracted or I'm like, what am I doing today? I feel like a thousand things are coming at me from a thousand directions. Then I might use a journaling tool, like the five minute journal or something like that, just to winnow everything down to two or three things that

like I'm caught up in the whirlwind. If I might be a little distracted or I'm like, what am I doing today? I feel like a thousand things are coming at me from a thousand directions. Then I might use a journaling tool, like the five minute journal or something like that, just to winnow everything down to two or three things that

No, I've never done that.

No, I've never done that.

invested in a company that went bankrupt i've invested in dozens of companies that have gone bust like what percent of your investment the angel investing 70 to 80 percent for sure you invest really early so that's what you expect to happen yeah i don't think i've invested in any other companies if we're talking about mature companies i don't think i've invested in any that have gone bankrupt but on the angel side tons i've had multiple companies go bankrupt in the last two weeks

invested in a company that went bankrupt i've invested in dozens of companies that have gone bust like what percent of your investment the angel investing 70 to 80 percent for sure you invest really early so that's what you expect to happen yeah i don't think i've invested in any other companies if we're talking about mature companies i don't think i've invested in any that have gone bankrupt but on the angel side tons i've had multiple companies go bankrupt in the last two weeks

Yeah, it's part of the game.

Yeah, it's part of the game.

Put it back up. Put it back up. Okay.

Put it back up. Put it back up. Okay.

Yes, I've done that. Which ones? A lot. Twitter, Facebook, Alibaba. If we're including advising, Shopify, Uber, Duolingo. I think Blue Bottle Coffee even. Next door, pretty sure. There's got to be another like 10 or probably 10 more.

Yes, I've done that. Which ones? A lot. Twitter, Facebook, Alibaba. If we're including advising, Shopify, Uber, Duolingo. I think Blue Bottle Coffee even. Next door, pretty sure. There's got to be another like 10 or probably 10 more.

Yeah. Well, I was pre-IPO in all of them and I was very early in a bunch of them. Like I was the first advisor to Shopify, first of I think three advisors to Uber, first round Duolingo, first advisor to Clear. That's another one that would be a... Oh, they're huge. All of those were very early.

Yeah. Well, I was pre-IPO in all of them and I was very early in a bunch of them. Like I was the first advisor to Shopify, first of I think three advisors to Uber, first round Duolingo, first advisor to Clear. That's another one that would be a... Oh, they're huge. All of those were very early.

are critical and plus having a very easy gratitude practice, et cetera, helps you to just take a little bit of pressure out of the system in the morning. It's literally five minutes and that's it. So how does that change with a partner? Not at all. If my partner can't put up with that, then we're probably not a good match, I would say.

are critical and plus having a very easy gratitude practice, et cetera, helps you to just take a little bit of pressure out of the system in the morning. It's literally five minutes and that's it. So how does that change with a partner? Not at all. If my partner can't put up with that, then we're probably not a good match, I would say.

It's the same.

It's the same.

It's not that much time. And I would say it's really not that much time. And I have friends who preserve their routine even with multiple kids. And guess what? They wake up an hour earlier. BFD. Big fucking deal. Put on your big girl pants and it's fine.

It's not that much time. And I would say it's really not that much time. And I have friends who preserve their routine even with multiple kids. And guess what? They wake up an hour earlier. BFD. Big fucking deal. Put on your big girl pants and it's fine.

You don't have to carve out that time. It's fine. And evening routine... is for instance i mean for me tonight like i'm going to go to this will sound familiar but i'm going to go to a banya so russian bathhouse hot cold hot cold i'm not going to give exact specifics but do not reveal your i will have had some weird encounters it's okay we're not i've had some weird encounters in bathhouses

You don't have to carve out that time. It's fine. And evening routine... is for instance i mean for me tonight like i'm going to go to this will sound familiar but i'm going to go to a banya so russian bathhouse hot cold hot cold i'm not going to give exact specifics but do not reveal your i will have had some weird encounters it's okay we're not i've had some weird encounters in bathhouses

Yeah, that's the pull quote. That is the clickbaity headline. So that will be an hour, hour and a half. It doesn't take very long. So I'm going in specifically for the hot, cold, hot, cold, hot, cold. I will because I've only done one meditation. I'll meditate in the first hot session that I do probably. Okay.

Yeah, that's the pull quote. That is the clickbaity headline. So that will be an hour, hour and a half. It doesn't take very long. So I'm going in specifically for the hot, cold, hot, cold, hot, cold. I will because I've only done one meditation. I'll meditate in the first hot session that I do probably. Okay.

10 minutes and but that's an hour and then i will have dinner after that and then in terms of wind down at night i'll generally do a little bit of stretching maybe some foam rolling and then read in bed not on my phone no backlit screens so kindle or hard copy you're so

10 minutes and but that's an hour and then i will have dinner after that and then in terms of wind down at night i'll generally do a little bit of stretching maybe some foam rolling and then read in bed not on my phone no backlit screens so kindle or hard copy you're so

No, never. I will watch Netflix, but I keep devices, I really try to keep devices out of bed, out of the bedroom.

No, never. I will watch Netflix, but I keep devices, I really try to keep devices out of bed, out of the bedroom.

Because all it takes, at least for me, I don't know about other people, You have one notification pop up about something work related.

Because all it takes, at least for me, I don't know about other people, You have one notification pop up about something work related.

And you're screwed.

And you're screwed.

You're screwed before you know it. Now you're in problem solving mode and you're not going to get out or you get sucked into social media, which is why I have no social media apps on my phone.

You're screwed before you know it. Now you're in problem solving mode and you're not going to get out or you get sucked into social media, which is why I have no social media apps on my phone.

Good for you.

Good for you.

Yeah. I forced myself to do it on desktop if I'm going to use it at all, which saves a lot of time on a few levels. Number one, you can't use it compulsively, but number two, I don't know if your friends are different from my friends, but, many of the group chats that I'm in are 90% people sending stupid memes and videos to one another. I can't look at those because the platforms throttle

Yeah. I forced myself to do it on desktop if I'm going to use it at all, which saves a lot of time on a few levels. Number one, you can't use it compulsively, but number two, I don't know if your friends are different from my friends, but, many of the group chats that I'm in are 90% people sending stupid memes and videos to one another. I can't look at those because the platforms throttle

what you can see without installing the app they want to capture you so i only get to see one-tenth of what gets sent to me so it's all the stupid memes i send you are just going into the ether into the ether yeah and i can always catch up on laptop if i really want to catch up or sometimes i will but then it's okay great now you're just doing it all at once so you knock it out in like half hour instead of interrupting your day 40 times

what you can see without installing the app they want to capture you so i only get to see one-tenth of what gets sent to me so it's all the stupid memes i send you are just going into the ether into the ether yeah and i can always catch up on laptop if i really want to catch up or sometimes i will but then it's okay great now you're just doing it all at once so you knock it out in like half hour instead of interrupting your day 40 times

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly.

No date tonight.

No date tonight.

I am single.

I am single.

I think modern dating is a pretty strange thing. For me, it can be bizarre. But I'm not going to say it or complain. I think being single can be fun. I do not have that as my long-term strategy. I got out of a very long relationship two and a half years ago.

I think modern dating is a pretty strange thing. For me, it can be bizarre. But I'm not going to say it or complain. I think being single can be fun. I do not have that as my long-term strategy. I got out of a very long relationship two and a half years ago.

and thought that was going to go to kids ended up not working out still actually very close to my ex not tethered she's married now so it's not like i'm just holding off with some hope that we'll get back together. That's not the situation, but on very good terms, I might actually have dinner with her tonight, believe it or not.

and thought that was going to go to kids ended up not working out still actually very close to my ex not tethered she's married now so it's not like i'm just holding off with some hope that we'll get back together. That's not the situation, but on very good terms, I might actually have dinner with her tonight, believe it or not.

And just to catch up, I haven't seen her in a long time, but the hope and plan is building a family. And last I checked, I guess it doesn't technically require a partner, but I would like to do it with a partner.

And just to catch up, I haven't seen her in a long time, but the hope and plan is building a family. And last I checked, I guess it doesn't technically require a partner, but I would like to do it with a partner.

Yeah. For me, I want that whole adventure. So that's the plan.

Yeah. For me, I want that whole adventure. So that's the plan.

Oh yeah, shocker. And I think we should be suspicious of what we want. That's actually from Rumi in the sense that we should cross-examine what we want because it may not actually be what we need. But to the best I can tell, I think there are a few things that mesh well with me. Smart, of course. Loves reading. Athletic. I like athletic. So you can do sports together. Yeah, athletic.

Oh yeah, shocker. And I think we should be suspicious of what we want. That's actually from Rumi in the sense that we should cross-examine what we want because it may not actually be what we need. But to the best I can tell, I think there are a few things that mesh well with me. Smart, of course. Loves reading. Athletic. I like athletic. So you can do sports together. Yeah, athletic.

Not just athletic, but outdoorsy. So if they only do CrossFit, but they never go hiking or have no interest in it.

Not just athletic, but outdoorsy. So if they only do CrossFit, but they never go hiking or have no interest in it.

Well, this is why I said or have interest in. Right. But I think ultimately I would like to spend a lot of the year around mountains, rivers, lakes. And I love skiing. So skiing is if someone skis or snowboards, that's a proxy, a substitute. It's one criterion that actually checks off a bunch of other boxes.

Well, this is why I said or have interest in. Right. But I think ultimately I would like to spend a lot of the year around mountains, rivers, lakes. And I love skiing. So skiing is if someone skis or snowboards, that's a proxy, a substitute. It's one criterion that actually checks off a bunch of other boxes.

If they take it seriously. Not just, I liked skiing when I did it three times. Wait, how seriously do you want them to take skiing? No, they don't need to be a professional. But if someone's pretty good at skiing, let's just say, and this isn't a pass-fail thing, they just have to enjoy skiing. But if they take it seriously enough... that they make time, let's just say, each year to go skiing.

If they take it seriously. Not just, I liked skiing when I did it three times. Wait, how seriously do you want them to take skiing? No, they don't need to be a professional. But if someone's pretty good at skiing, let's just say, and this isn't a pass-fail thing, they just have to enjoy skiing. But if they take it seriously enough... that they make time, let's just say, each year to go skiing.

What does that mean? It means they like being outdoors by default. It means they're willing to prioritize that and block out time for it.

What does that mean? It means they like being outdoors by default. It means they're willing to prioritize that and block out time for it.

Dedicate themselves. They probably are pretty good at sort of risk assessment and thinking about that if they do backcountry stuff and so on. it checks a lot of boxes actually right so i'm not saying someone has to ski but i would say in a lot of the dates i've had so far it predicts really accurately a bunch of other things uh I would like someone who has a job or has some identity of their own.

Dedicate themselves. They probably are pretty good at sort of risk assessment and thinking about that if they do backcountry stuff and so on. it checks a lot of boxes actually right so i'm not saying someone has to ski but i would say in a lot of the dates i've had so far it predicts really accurately a bunch of other things uh I would like someone who has a job or has some identity of their own.

Because if not, there are a few issues with the if not. I'm big on communication. I owe my ex actually a huge set of gratitude for that because she was a very good communicator, highly empathic. That's one of her strengths.

Because if not, there are a few issues with the if not. I'm big on communication. I owe my ex actually a huge set of gratitude for that because she was a very good communicator, highly empathic. That's one of her strengths.

superpowers and so we did a lot of workshops and read a lot of books and it hugely benefited me just in terms of being able to communicate emotions which my family didn't really do ever and ask what you want and draw boundaries and Do repair, by the way, super important. Oh, that's a big one. There's going to be conflict no matter what. Yeah.

superpowers and so we did a lot of workshops and read a lot of books and it hugely benefited me just in terms of being able to communicate emotions which my family didn't really do ever and ask what you want and draw boundaries and Do repair, by the way, super important. Oh, that's a big one. There's going to be conflict no matter what. Yeah.

But I would say smart, sporty, nice ass is always great.

But I would say smart, sporty, nice ass is always great.

Yeah, like meat on the bones.

Yeah, like meat on the bones.

Oh, okay, Tim.

Oh, okay, Tim.

Not Kim K badonkadonk necessarily, but athletic, right?

Not Kim K badonkadonk necessarily, but athletic, right?

I want somebody who enjoys moving their body and likes to be athletic, which ends up probably being closer to... to name Mila Jovovich or the actress in Fifth Element than to Kim K, right? But the point is I need to look forward to having conversations with this person because long-term relationships are basically one long conversation.

I want somebody who enjoys moving their body and likes to be athletic, which ends up probably being closer to... to name Mila Jovovich or the actress in Fifth Element than to Kim K, right? But the point is I need to look forward to having conversations with this person because long-term relationships are basically one long conversation.

they sure are right and every you get to the point where like you start repeating your stories could you forget that you told the story to each other so for that they need to be deeply curious right and i i need to not just respect them but admire something about them like i need to admire them yeah and am i going to want to if we sit at a table and let's just say they're understated

they sure are right and every you get to the point where like you start repeating your stories could you forget that you told the story to each other so for that they need to be deeply curious right and i i need to not just respect them but admire something about them like i need to admire them yeah and am i going to want to if we sit at a table and let's just say they're understated

am I going to want to brag on their behalf about something? That is a huge positive indicator. And if that's the case, if the things I just mentioned are true, which I don't think is that much, I don't think it's unreasonable to look for, like the stuff I just mentioned. if I could wave magic wand like three years from now, got a bun in the oven or one little kid, that'd be great.

am I going to want to brag on their behalf about something? That is a huge positive indicator. And if that's the case, if the things I just mentioned are true, which I don't think is that much, I don't think it's unreasonable to look for, like the stuff I just mentioned. if I could wave magic wand like three years from now, got a bun in the oven or one little kid, that'd be great.

I think that for instance, I was in my last relationship five and a half years. I think that was too long to go without a real phase shift towards like marriage or having kids. I don't think those need to go together by the way. Um,

I think that for instance, I was in my last relationship five and a half years. I think that was too long to go without a real phase shift towards like marriage or having kids. I don't think those need to go together by the way. Um,

marriage and kids you think you can split you don't want to be married to one person kids preferably not but i do think that people trip themselves up i certainly have tripped myself up thinking about like the contract with the state aspect of marriage it can add a really thorny difficult dimension

marriage and kids you think you can split you don't want to be married to one person kids preferably not but i do think that people trip themselves up i certainly have tripped myself up thinking about like the contract with the state aspect of marriage it can add a really thorny difficult dimension

And I know people who have also gotten married and just have the process of going through the pre-nup basically killed all the magic. I've seen that multiple times. It was like a pre-marriage divorce.

And I know people who have also gotten married and just have the process of going through the pre-nup basically killed all the magic. I've seen that multiple times. It was like a pre-marriage divorce.

Oh, yeah, of course.

Oh, yeah, of course.

Of course. If I were to get married, I think it's irresponsible not to. That's my perspective. Yeah. Right. And because it's here's the thing. As someone who's in the public, as someone who's done well and that's also in the public, I don't want to question the motives of the person I'm with.

Of course. If I were to get married, I think it's irresponsible not to. That's my perspective. Yeah. Right. And because it's here's the thing. As someone who's in the public, as someone who's done well and that's also in the public, I don't want to question the motives of the person I'm with.

Oh, sure. Like any guy who's reasonably successful has gone on dates where it's like on date three, they're like, oh, and by the way, I have a book coming out in two months and would love to get your advice. Or, oh, by the way, I have this startup. And the whole thing has been a ruse to get advice.

Oh, sure. Like any guy who's reasonably successful has gone on dates where it's like on date three, they're like, oh, and by the way, I have a book coming out in two months and would love to get your advice. Or, oh, by the way, I have this startup. And the whole thing has been a ruse to get advice.

No. They would have told me up front. They wouldn't have waited until month two or something. Oh, for sure.

No. They would have told me up front. They wouldn't have waited until month two or something. Oh, for sure.

That's like a material manipulation. Sometimes there's the both end. But the point, and most women are great. Like, I'm not saying that's all the time. But just as I think a beautiful woman wants to know that someone is with her not just for the sex appeal, because what happens when I age and this, that, and the other thing, similarly, like,

That's like a material manipulation. Sometimes there's the both end. But the point, and most women are great. Like, I'm not saying that's all the time. But just as I think a beautiful woman wants to know that someone is with her not just for the sex appeal, because what happens when I age and this, that, and the other thing, similarly, like,

that can be a component of the attraction, but they want to be assured that's not the only thing. Similarly, it's like, I want to make sure that I'm not just a meal ticket.

that can be a component of the attraction, but they want to be assured that's not the only thing. Similarly, it's like, I want to make sure that I'm not just a meal ticket.

And a lot of women on dating apps are very explicit about this. I want to be spoiled and this and this. And they're looking for a patron more than they're looking for a partner. Right. And so that's not all the time, but.

And a lot of women on dating apps are very explicit about this. I want to be spoiled and this and this. And they're looking for a patron more than they're looking for a partner. Right. And so that's not all the time, but.

it is something that i don't want to have in the back of my mind so a way to have that peace of mind is to have a prenup which i think should just be a non-issue like it it it should be a non-issue now another reason this is actually important where i like i would love to be with a woman who has like operated in the world right if life is always hard for someone

it is something that i don't want to have in the back of my mind so a way to have that peace of mind is to have a prenup which i think should just be a non-issue like it it it should be a non-issue now another reason this is actually important where i like i would love to be with a woman who has like operated in the world right if life is always hard for someone

right now, traveling in New York City. So it's pretty bare bones. But what's my routine? My routine is wake up, have a little bit of tea, meditate. This seemed pretty funny. That's it. That's my morning routine. It's very bare bones. If I'm at home, there's going to be a little bit more to it. So I would probably wake up, caffeine, meditate cold plunge. Cause I do have a cold plunge.

right now, traveling in New York City. So it's pretty bare bones. But what's my routine? My routine is wake up, have a little bit of tea, meditate. This seemed pretty funny. That's it. That's my morning routine. It's very bare bones. If I'm at home, there's going to be a little bit more to it. So I would probably wake up, caffeine, meditate cold plunge. Cause I do have a cold plunge.

that person's not a good fit for me. But if they have some agency and experience in the world, dealing with something like a prenup will not be as hard as if you're dealing with someone who's never done any business, never dealt with lawyers.

that person's not a good fit for me. But if they have some agency and experience in the world, dealing with something like a prenup will not be as hard as if you're dealing with someone who's never done any business, never dealt with lawyers.

They may have, I tend to be at the risk of maybe saying something obvious. Are you ready? This is going to be my theory on attraction. Yeah.

They may have, I tend to be at the risk of maybe saying something obvious. Are you ready? This is going to be my theory on attraction. Yeah.

You think you're ready? You're ready.

You think you're ready? You're ready.

The way I think of attraction is, and if you get ruffled feathers with the terms I'm using, I'm sorry, but let's keep it simple. So I imagine a slider, there's a sliding scale. In the middle is 50-50 feminine masculine traits. Mm-hmm. Now, for the LGBTIQ folks out there, that doesn't mean male, female, right? But like masculine, feminine traits.

The way I think of attraction is, and if you get ruffled feathers with the terms I'm using, I'm sorry, but let's keep it simple. So I imagine a slider, there's a sliding scale. In the middle is 50-50 feminine masculine traits. Mm-hmm. Now, for the LGBTIQ folks out there, that doesn't mean male, female, right? But like masculine, feminine traits.

You could have a male with very feminine traits or a female with very masculine traits. I may have misspoken. But as you go out, let's just say it's 50-50, right? Like perfect androgyny, basically. As you go out, then you have 100% masculine traits, 100% feminine traits. Very few people are that. Most people are somewhere in between.

You could have a male with very feminine traits or a female with very masculine traits. I may have misspoken. But as you go out, let's just say it's 50-50, right? Like perfect androgyny, basically. As you go out, then you have 100% masculine traits, 100% feminine traits. Very few people are that. Most people are somewhere in between.

And I think that you, the polarity, when people are equidistant from the center, that tends to work well. Okay, so what does that mean? Let's just say, for the sake of argument, let's say I'm 80% masculine, 20% feminine. You think you are? I'm pretty far out on the masculine scale, I think. And that's what people tell me. I mean, what do I know?

And I think that you, the polarity, when people are equidistant from the center, that tends to work well. Okay, so what does that mean? Let's just say, for the sake of argument, let's say I'm 80% masculine, 20% feminine. You think you are? I'm pretty far out on the masculine scale, I think. And that's what people tell me. I mean, what do I know?

So I tend to be attracted to women who are pretty far out on the other end, who are frequently like free flowing, free spirited, highly feminine women, sometimes that correlates to living in the moment, not really planning for the future. So long-term planning and thinking through complex problems that take time to unravel may not be a strong suit.

So I tend to be attracted to women who are pretty far out on the other end, who are frequently like free flowing, free spirited, highly feminine women, sometimes that correlates to living in the moment, not really planning for the future. So long-term planning and thinking through complex problems that take time to unravel may not be a strong suit.

I think that is something I have to be on guard against.

I think that is something I have to be on guard against.

But that is the story that they've chosen to tell themselves, which is informed also by their peer group. So if you have a billion dollars with all the people you're hanging out with have two, five, $10 billion, then you're not going to feel successful. If the story you tell yourself is that you measure that self worth by the size of your bank account or stock portfolio, whatever it might be. So

But that is the story that they've chosen to tell themselves, which is informed also by their peer group. So if you have a billion dollars with all the people you're hanging out with have two, five, $10 billion, then you're not going to feel successful. If the story you tell yourself is that you measure that self worth by the size of your bank account or stock portfolio, whatever it might be. So

The way that Seth encapsulated that, as I interpret what he's saying, because he has made a lot of decisions in his life to, for instance, not start additional startups. And in place of that, focusing on having dinner with his family every night and cooking with his kids and making hand-carved canoes and all these various things that he's done. Yeah. And that's not by accident, right?

The way that Seth encapsulated that, as I interpret what he's saying, because he has made a lot of decisions in his life to, for instance, not start additional startups. And in place of that, focusing on having dinner with his family every night and cooking with his kids and making hand-carved canoes and all these various things that he's done. Yeah. And that's not by accident, right?

He decided that, and I'll give another paraphrase. Let me think about this. This is from Tim O'Reilly, who is founder of O'Reilly Publishing. At one point, maybe still very successful, influential technology publisher. So if you wanted to learn C++ or whatever, you would buy an O'Reilly book. And I find him deeply fascinating.

He decided that, and I'll give another paraphrase. Let me think about this. This is from Tim O'Reilly, who is founder of O'Reilly Publishing. At one point, maybe still very successful, influential technology publisher. So if you wanted to learn C++ or whatever, you would buy an O'Reilly book. And I find him deeply fascinating.

And one of his quotes, which goes well with Seth's, is, effectively, money is like gasoline. but just make sure if you're on a road trip, the goal is not to do a tour of gas stations.

And one of his quotes, which goes well with Seth's, is, effectively, money is like gasoline. but just make sure if you're on a road trip, the goal is not to do a tour of gas stations.

And I'm not getting the quote totally, but you get the gist of it. Totally. And I think a lot of folks end up doing tours of gas stations. That is also unhealthy.

And I'm not getting the quote totally, but you get the gist of it. Totally. And I think a lot of folks end up doing tours of gas stations. That is also unhealthy.

I think that one is rationalizing all sorts of reasons why they need to make more money. Because they often have been so fixated on... competing to validate themselves and making money to validate themselves that they've let most of their other interests completely atrophy. They don't know how to do anything else.

I think that one is rationalizing all sorts of reasons why they need to make more money. Because they often have been so fixated on... competing to validate themselves and making money to validate themselves that they've let most of their other interests completely atrophy. They don't know how to do anything else.

But after they've made X amount of money, for some people, that's a million dollars where they feel like they've made it. For some people, that's 10, 20, 100 million, a billion, whatever it might be. At that point... Am I allowed to curse? Okay. They can't say... I don't have enough money without looking like a complete asshole. They can't say that. That has been taken away. So what do they do?

But after they've made X amount of money, for some people, that's a million dollars where they feel like they've made it. For some people, that's 10, 20, 100 million, a billion, whatever it might be. At that point... Am I allowed to curse? Okay. They can't say... I don't have enough money without looking like a complete asshole. They can't say that. That has been taken away. So what do they do?

They come up with all of these workarounds where they're like, now it's about compounded annual growth rate. What's the percentage growth rate? Now that I can't really with a straight face talk about some magical number I need. So now it's an addiction. It's an addiction. So they shift to that. They shift to legacy, which is this very nebulous thing.

They come up with all of these workarounds where they're like, now it's about compounded annual growth rate. What's the percentage growth rate? Now that I can't really with a straight face talk about some magical number I need. So now it's an addiction. It's an addiction. So they shift to that. They shift to legacy, which is this very nebulous thing.

And by the way, if you give your kids too much money, from what I've seen, it completely ruins them, as far as I can tell. So that is also ridiculous. Come on. We don't even know. Most of us don't know. Like Alexander the Great's full name. So are you really going to be remembered like 200 years from now? Of course you're not. Like, come on. Let's be realistic.

And by the way, if you give your kids too much money, from what I've seen, it completely ruins them, as far as I can tell. So that is also ridiculous. Come on. We don't even know. Most of us don't know. Like Alexander the Great's full name. So are you really going to be remembered like 200 years from now? Of course you're not. Like, come on. Let's be realistic.

So that whole fool's errand, I think, is silly. There are aspects, psychological aspects to it that I...

So that whole fool's errand, I think, is silly. There are aspects, psychological aspects to it that I...

can relate to right feel it fear of death mortality okay fine i get it like you're looking for something to exist beyond you okay fine yeah totally then there's the i i'm not gonna i'm not gonna give money to charity just yet because if i just compound and then when i'm much older or dead it'll be such a bigger number i'll be able to have so much more impact

can relate to right feel it fear of death mortality okay fine i get it like you're looking for something to exist beyond you okay fine yeah totally then there's the i i'm not gonna i'm not gonna give money to charity just yet because if i just compound and then when i'm much older or dead it'll be such a bigger number i'll be able to have so much more impact

I call bullshit. I call 100% bullshit. That is just people who are rich and stingy wanting to be richer. That's it. Full stop. Because the problems are also compounding just like capital. So you could intervene with less money now to help bend the arc of history with respect to certain problems.

I call bullshit. I call 100% bullshit. That is just people who are rich and stingy wanting to be richer. That's it. Full stop. Because the problems are also compounding just like capital. So you could intervene with less money now to help bend the arc of history with respect to certain problems.

Versus 20 years from now, I think, at least for me, it's important to have some identity diversification by maintaining some other deep interests so that you don't paint yourself into a corner where you have one path for self-validation and that is more money. That is a really bad position to be in.

Versus 20 years from now, I think, at least for me, it's important to have some identity diversification by maintaining some other deep interests so that you don't paint yourself into a corner where you have one path for self-validation and that is more money. That is a really bad position to be in.

Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, I've made enough. Number one, I don't really have a super high burn lifestyle. I'm not cheap. Maybe I'm cheap with certain things. You're minimalist. Yeah, I'm minimalist. Everything I'm wearing right now, except for the shoes, I got for free. I'm not flashing a lot of fancy brand identity.

Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, I've made enough. Number one, I don't really have a super high burn lifestyle. I'm not cheap. Maybe I'm cheap with certain things. You're minimalist. Yeah, I'm minimalist. Everything I'm wearing right now, except for the shoes, I got for free. I'm not flashing a lot of fancy brand identity.

Yeah, I came in wearing shorts, which I also got for free. There is that. You can take the boy out of Long Island, but maybe not the Long Island out of... I've got plenty of clothes. I've got more than enough clothing. I don't feel like I need more money. I'm very fortunate in that way. If you look at some of the decisions I've made over the last handful of years, they are clear indicators of

Yeah, I came in wearing shorts, which I also got for free. There is that. You can take the boy out of Long Island, but maybe not the Long Island out of... I've got plenty of clothes. I've got more than enough clothing. I don't feel like I need more money. I'm very fortunate in that way. If you look at some of the decisions I've made over the last handful of years, they are clear indicators of

Thank you. Nice to see you.

Thank you. Nice to see you.

that I have come to that realization. In the sense that, for instance, before we started recording, and maybe some of it was included, who knows, but we were chatting about recording and how impressive this entire studio is and how my recording studio basically fits in my backpack.

that I have come to that realization. In the sense that, for instance, before we started recording, and maybe some of it was included, who knows, but we were chatting about recording and how impressive this entire studio is and how my recording studio basically fits in my backpack.

It's two lav mics that I could hold in the palm of my hand and one headset if I'm doing recordings remotely. That's it. It can literally fit in my backpack. I could have four such studios in my backpack. No problem. And have largely minimized video access. In part because I do not want to have a fixed location. I do not want to require people to travel to me. I want flexibility and options.

It's two lav mics that I could hold in the palm of my hand and one headset if I'm doing recordings remotely. That's it. It can literally fit in my backpack. I could have four such studios in my backpack. No problem. And have largely minimized video access. In part because I do not want to have a fixed location. I do not want to require people to travel to me. I want flexibility and options.

All of that is at great financial cost.

All of that is at great financial cost.

Yeah, YouTube is the growth mechanism.

Yeah, YouTube is the growth mechanism.

I did.

I did.

I did two TV shows. I think at that point, this was also quite a while ago. So this was when TV was, as network television and cable both combined, more relevant. But in a cable cutting world, it just really isn't necessary. And there's so many amazing productions on YouTube, on Instagram, on TikTok. There are people who are really good. and rival anything you would see on broadcast.

I did two TV shows. I think at that point, this was also quite a while ago. So this was when TV was, as network television and cable both combined, more relevant. But in a cable cutting world, it just really isn't necessary. And there's so many amazing productions on YouTube, on Instagram, on TikTok. There are people who are really good. and rival anything you would see on broadcast.

And they do it for far less money, far less bloat, far less bureaucracy. It's wonderful. And that's not the game I want to play. And I think it is worth contemplating, I think about this a lot, that above a certain point on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, if you have shelter, if you have warmth, if you have food, a handful of other basic necessities,

And they do it for far less money, far less bloat, far less bureaucracy. It's wonderful. And that's not the game I want to play. And I think it is worth contemplating, I think about this a lot, that above a certain point on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, if you have shelter, if you have warmth, if you have food, a handful of other basic necessities,

everything beyond that that you choose to do is a game of some type and people might say well hold on like i need to pay my mortgage and you just yes true but that's shelter that's right there in the basics yeah that's shelter that's in the basics right or you're renting now so i would say i'll say two things and this will actually tie into another podcast guest so you're choosing to play a game.

everything beyond that that you choose to do is a game of some type and people might say well hold on like i need to pay my mortgage and you just yes true but that's shelter that's right there in the basics yeah that's shelter that's in the basics right or you're renting now so i would say i'll say two things and this will actually tie into another podcast guest so you're choosing to play a game.

And the first key is to be aware that's what you're doing. And that the goal for me is not first and foremost to get good at the game, meaning whatever game I've subconsciously or accidentally ended up in is to choose the right game.

And the first key is to be aware that's what you're doing. And that the goal for me is not first and foremost to get good at the game, meaning whatever game I've subconsciously or accidentally ended up in is to choose the right game.

Back in the day. I know.

Back in the day. I know.

Yeah, it's so fast.

Yeah, it's so fast.

Is a game. There are rules that you're implicitly or explicitly agreeing to. There are conditions for winning or not winning. And these are all stories that you tell yourself, probably in a peer group. And you don't have to play the game. There might be costs to not playing that game, but you don't have to play that game. It's not a matter of life and death.

Is a game. There are rules that you're implicitly or explicitly agreeing to. There are conditions for winning or not winning. And these are all stories that you tell yourself, probably in a peer group. And you don't have to play the game. There might be costs to not playing that game, but you don't have to play that game. It's not a matter of life and death.

And I think much of my time is spent thinking about the games I want to play and what games am I playing right now that may not be serving me. which is very closely tied to what stories am I telling myself, right? What thoughts am I taking to be true, i.e. beliefs? And you can come up with a lot of interesting workarounds or alternatives once you start poking at that stuff.

And I think much of my time is spent thinking about the games I want to play and what games am I playing right now that may not be serving me. which is very closely tied to what stories am I telling myself, right? What thoughts am I taking to be true, i.e. beliefs? And you can come up with a lot of interesting workarounds or alternatives once you start poking at that stuff.

And for instance, if you happen to live in, I'll give some coastal examples because they're just easy. If you choose to live in, say, L.A., what's the game a lot of people are playing in L.A.? It's the fame game, right? If you're in New York, what's one game that a lot of people are playing in New York? It's the money game. Go to D.C. Okay. What game are people playing there? The power game.

And for instance, if you happen to live in, I'll give some coastal examples because they're just easy. If you choose to live in, say, L.A., what's the game a lot of people are playing in L.A.? It's the fame game, right? If you're in New York, what's one game that a lot of people are playing in New York? It's the money game. Go to D.C. Okay. What game are people playing there? The power game.

Yeah, early days.

Yeah, early days.

And then there are many other games. There are a million other games.

And then there are many other games. There are a million other games.

Yeah, there's tons of that. I would just say if you had to make a parody, like a Seinfeld episode, that's too dated, but if you had to make an episode that was like a parody of your friend group... What would be the games that your friend group are playing? Because chances are you're playing the same games, right?

Yeah, there's tons of that. I would just say if you had to make a parody, like a Seinfeld episode, that's too dated, but if you had to make an episode that was like a parody of your friend group... What would be the games that your friend group are playing? Because chances are you're playing the same games, right?

It's like, what would a Larry David Curb Your Enthusiasm episode, pick your, I'm going on the string of Larry David from Seinfeld to Larry David. We get the idea. If you're going to make a 30 minute parody.

It's like, what would a Larry David Curb Your Enthusiasm episode, pick your, I'm going on the string of Larry David from Seinfeld to Larry David. We get the idea. If you're going to make a 30 minute parody.

of including your friend group, right? Like what would you make fun of? Because chances are those same things apply to you on some level. And you can get there maybe through humor to some important truths that might be hard to tackle head on otherwise.

of including your friend group, right? Like what would you make fun of? Because chances are those same things apply to you on some level. And you can get there maybe through humor to some important truths that might be hard to tackle head on otherwise.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, for sure.

Sure, or they started playing a game deliberately, like I did with entrepreneurship, with a certain set of beliefs about the game.

Sure, or they started playing a game deliberately, like I did with entrepreneurship, with a certain set of beliefs about the game.

In other words, when I make X amount of money, when I make a million dollars, I will be a millionaire officially, and that will mean I have won, and then I can make X percent per year, also another assumption and belief, based on that, and I can do all the things I want to do.

In other words, when I make X amount of money, when I make a million dollars, I will be a millionaire officially, and that will mean I have won, and then I can make X percent per year, also another assumption and belief, based on that, and I can do all the things I want to do.

Early days, I'm guessing, just to defend myself, I'm guessing this was probably during South by Southwest. Am I wrong?

Early days, I'm guessing, just to defend myself, I'm guessing this was probably during South by Southwest. Am I wrong?

but then to focus to get to that million dollars what happens you ignore all of these facets of your life potentially or you neglect them and then you get to a million and you realize the one thing that you've become really good at to the exclusion of other things is making money so what do you do now you decide you need five million

but then to focus to get to that million dollars what happens you ignore all of these facets of your life potentially or you neglect them and then you get to a million and you realize the one thing that you've become really good at to the exclusion of other things is making money so what do you do now you decide you need five million

Yeah, exactly. For me, having some type of sports component has always been really important because you things can take away your money very easily like this is fortune meaning the fates yes chance yes can do really gnarly things to your money and if you have all your eggs in that basket i i think it makes you fragile so for me

Yeah, exactly. For me, having some type of sports component has always been really important because you things can take away your money very easily like this is fortune meaning the fates yes chance yes can do really gnarly things to your money and if you have all your eggs in that basket i i think it makes you fragile so for me

So if my business or my podcast or whatever isn't doing as well as I would like it to do, you can measure that a bunch of different ways. If I had a good day, like I came here from archery, right? If I had a good day doing archery and I'm taking it really seriously, it's still a good day. And that makes me more... anti-fragile, right? It makes me more resilient.

So if my business or my podcast or whatever isn't doing as well as I would like it to do, you can measure that a bunch of different ways. If I had a good day, like I came here from archery, right? If I had a good day doing archery and I'm taking it really seriously, it's still a good day. And that makes me more... anti-fragile, right? It makes me more resilient.

So I try to have at least a few of those kind of interests that are not to get too fancy, but like uncorrelated, right? This is a show about money, right? You can talk about uncorrelated investments. You can also talk about it with identities and you can talk about it with interests.

So I try to have at least a few of those kind of interests that are not to get too fancy, but like uncorrelated, right? This is a show about money, right? You can talk about uncorrelated investments. You can also talk about it with identities and you can talk about it with interests.

My guess is that I may have had some type of commitment beforehand and that I would have had tequila if I had to guess. Or did I get drunk in the episode?

My guess is that I may have had some type of commitment beforehand and that I would have had tequila if I had to guess. Or did I get drunk in the episode?

Oh, sure. Yeah. There have been times, certainly when I was neglecting self-care, sleep, consuming too many stimulants to stay up, maybe drinking too much. It could be anything like that when you are just running on fumes, when you've pushed it too hard. Yeah.

Oh, sure. Yeah. There have been times, certainly when I was neglecting self-care, sleep, consuming too many stimulants to stay up, maybe drinking too much. It could be anything like that when you are just running on fumes, when you've pushed it too hard. Yeah.

something's got to give yes and that might be time with your friends it might be time with your significant other might be time with your family it might be getting to the gym or doing some type of exercise might be your diet right maybe you're stressed out so instead of having reaching for a glass of wine you reach for a bag of chips it's the same thing yeah totally different tool same job so what happens to tim ferris when you're not taking care of yourself

something's got to give yes and that might be time with your friends it might be time with your significant other might be time with your family it might be getting to the gym or doing some type of exercise might be your diet right maybe you're stressed out so instead of having reaching for a glass of wine you reach for a bag of chips it's the same thing yeah totally different tool same job so what happens to tim ferris when you're not taking care of yourself

I feel like in the last decade or two, I've been quite good about catching myself before I get to Code Red.

I feel like in the last decade or two, I've been quite good about catching myself before I get to Code Red.

Yeah. So what happens to him? I think the first thing to suffer is typically sleep. And in a sense, I'm grateful for that because it is self-limiting.

Yeah. So what happens to him? I think the first thing to suffer is typically sleep. And in a sense, I'm grateful for that because it is self-limiting.

like if you just run out of steam yeah if you don't sleep if you sleep poorly for long enough like you're gonna crash and then that's the wake-up call but in the last probably 20 years certainly mostly especially in the last decade i think with certain non-negotiables i've been pretty good at avoiding that right and i think mentally just categorizing certain things like for instance the meditation

like if you just run out of steam yeah if you don't sleep if you sleep poorly for long enough like you're gonna crash and then that's the wake-up call but in the last probably 20 years certainly mostly especially in the last decade i think with certain non-negotiables i've been pretty good at avoiding that right and i think mentally just categorizing certain things like for instance the meditation

You categorize that brushing your teeth or taking a shower. You're not going to go a week without showering if you're exercising, right? Okay, then you can't go a day without meditating.

You categorize that brushing your teeth or taking a shower. You're not going to go a week without showering if you're exercising, right? Okay, then you can't go a day without meditating.

Always a risky move.

Always a risky move.

How many people love brushing their teeth? I'll do it, but it's not like getting a massage. I'm not like, oh yeah, baby, Swedish massage for my gums. I'm not into it, but I do it. Why? Because you've conditioned yourself to do it. It is non-negotiable. You've told yourself it's non-negotiable.

How many people love brushing their teeth? I'll do it, but it's not like getting a massage. I'm not like, oh yeah, baby, Swedish massage for my gums. I'm not into it, but I do it. Why? Because you've conditioned yourself to do it. It is non-negotiable. You've told yourself it's non-negotiable.

That's also one of the benefits of just saying it doesn't matter when you do it. If you do it right before bed, great.

That's also one of the benefits of just saying it doesn't matter when you do it. If you do it right before bed, great.

I would say, and this is borrowing from somebody else. I can't remember the attribution. If you don't have 10 minutes a day to meditate, you need 10 hours. It's kind of like symptomatic of other problems. I would say, okay, fine. Like if we're in a negotiation and you're saying, I don't have 10 minutes twice a day. Fine. Okay. 30 seconds twice a day. Do you have that?

I would say, and this is borrowing from somebody else. I can't remember the attribution. If you don't have 10 minutes a day to meditate, you need 10 hours. It's kind of like symptomatic of other problems. I would say, okay, fine. Like if we're in a negotiation and you're saying, I don't have 10 minutes twice a day. Fine. Okay. 30 seconds twice a day. Do you have that?

for wine see i don't drink much wine anymore i would say i'm actually going completely dry this month which is not a reflection of being being drunk all the time otherwise but i can talk about alcohol and podcasting i learned pretty early that you have to really be strategic about how you mix those two

for wine see i don't drink much wine anymore i would say i'm actually going completely dry this month which is not a reflection of being being drunk all the time otherwise but i can talk about alcohol and podcasting i learned pretty early that you have to really be strategic about how you mix those two

Nobody really with a straight face can say no. It's like, all right, now we're just determining. It's not whether you do it or not. We're just negotiating the duration.

Nobody really with a straight face can say no. It's like, all right, now we're just determining. It's not whether you do it or not. We're just negotiating the duration.

One song. Like when I, there was a point when I was running really ragged and I just decided, okay, I'm going to listen to, I was really into it. I think he's an amazing musician, Prince. So I wanted to listen to some feel good Prince song. I was like, all right, I'm just, I have to meditate once a day to one song. That's it. And that was the foot in the door.

One song. Like when I, there was a point when I was running really ragged and I just decided, okay, I'm going to listen to, I was really into it. I think he's an amazing musician, Prince. So I wanted to listen to some feel good Prince song. I was like, all right, I'm just, I have to meditate once a day to one song. That's it. And that was the foot in the door.

You don't have to get the whole body in the door. Just get the foot in the door.

You don't have to get the whole body in the door. Just get the foot in the door.

When the morning routine is three hours long.

When the morning routine is three hours long.

So I've changed perhaps my viewpoint on a lot of this in the sense that I used to test everything imaginable. I was the human guinea pig. I was way out at the edges. And I don't really do much of that anymore in the sense that I think health very often is what we abstain from as much as it is what we do. It's a very... Look, I love the United States. I love it.

So I've changed perhaps my viewpoint on a lot of this in the sense that I used to test everything imaginable. I was the human guinea pig. I was way out at the edges. And I don't really do much of that anymore in the sense that I think health very often is what we abstain from as much as it is what we do. It's a very... Look, I love the United States. I love it.

But it's a very American thing, at least prototypically American thing, to think more is better. It's very much part of the ethos of the country. And to look for things to do, because I think... Americans have that Protestant work ethic and if it is to be it is up to me and I must Make it happen. Yes, which implies doing things which also often implies adding things, right?

But it's a very American thing, at least prototypically American thing, to think more is better. It's very much part of the ethos of the country. And to look for things to do, because I think... Americans have that Protestant work ethic and if it is to be it is up to me and I must Make it happen. Yes, which implies doing things which also often implies adding things, right?

Which is why the supplement markets do so well in the US but I have started to look, and I will answer your question directly and give you a couple of easy things, that what you don't do is as important as what you do. So for instance, maybe you're not gonna see it on camera, but I have a lot of people ask me about believe it or not, skin care.

Which is why the supplement markets do so well in the US but I have started to look, and I will answer your question directly and give you a couple of easy things, that what you don't do is as important as what you do. So for instance, maybe you're not gonna see it on camera, but I have a lot of people ask me about believe it or not, skin care.

And they're just like, what do you do? Because the photos of me from 10 years ago look the same as they do now. I don't look discernibly different. And I just, among other things, I'm like, number one, maybe it's just genetics. Who knows? I don't think so, though. Like, my family, it's not like they all look like Benjamin Button or something.

And they're just like, what do you do? Because the photos of me from 10 years ago look the same as they do now. I don't look discernibly different. And I just, among other things, I'm like, number one, maybe it's just genetics. Who knows? I don't think so, though. Like, my family, it's not like they all look like Benjamin Button or something.

Because how you perceive yourself as sounding and how good you perceive your humor to be is actually quite a few notches above reality when you get past, I would say, two drinks. But I'm going to guess Rombauer Chardonnay. Nope. You remember what I was drinking.

Because how you perceive yourself as sounding and how good you perceive your humor to be is actually quite a few notches above reality when you get past, I would say, two drinks. But I'm going to guess Rombauer Chardonnay. Nope. You remember what I was drinking.

No, I'm just saying, it doesn't seem to be purely genetic. I would say...

No, I'm just saying, it doesn't seem to be purely genetic. I would say...

as an example right the only soap i use and this is not a paid endorsement or anything is dr bronner's unscented baby soap that's it for everything now i have the luxury of doing that because i'm bald too but i want to avoid phthalates i want to avoid which often yes can be found through fragrances right they very often come together and make whatever I put on my skin as innocuous as possible.

as an example right the only soap i use and this is not a paid endorsement or anything is dr bronner's unscented baby soap that's it for everything now i have the luxury of doing that because i'm bald too but i want to avoid phthalates i want to avoid which often yes can be found through fragrances right they very often come together and make whatever I put on my skin as innocuous as possible.

And skin is an organ, you absorb a lot through your skin. I very rarely, this is not medical advice, but very rarely use any kind of sun protection. I just moderate my skin exposure to sun. If you have to put a bunch of chemicals on your skin to be out in the sun for long periods of time, don't be out in the sun for long periods of time. There are some exceptions, right?

And skin is an organ, you absorb a lot through your skin. I very rarely, this is not medical advice, but very rarely use any kind of sun protection. I just moderate my skin exposure to sun. If you have to put a bunch of chemicals on your skin to be out in the sun for long periods of time, don't be out in the sun for long periods of time. There are some exceptions, right?

If I'm gonna go surfing, fine. I don't wanna be turned into a lobster.

If I'm gonna go surfing, fine. I don't wanna be turned into a lobster.

Very sensitive, very sensitive. And so on and so forth with food.

Very sensitive, very sensitive. And so on and so forth with food.

Yeah. I don't, I literally don't, I don't put other shit on my face or on my body. I think it is a gamble. You just don't know.

Yeah. I don't, I literally don't, I don't put other shit on my face or on my body. I think it is a gamble. You just don't know.

I'll give you, this is going to be a little digression, but I'll give another example, right? So people have issues, whether it's not medical advice, again, not a doctor, don't play one on the internet. So talk to your general practitioner, but whether it's, digestive issues, IBS, rheumatoid arthritis, or whatever, people are looking for what to add, what pill to take, what thing to do to fix it.

I'll give you, this is going to be a little digression, but I'll give another example, right? So people have issues, whether it's not medical advice, again, not a doctor, don't play one on the internet. So talk to your general practitioner, but whether it's, digestive issues, IBS, rheumatoid arthritis, or whatever, people are looking for what to add, what pill to take, what thing to do to fix it.

There is an interesting book. I don't love every aspect of it, but I believe it's called The Oldest Cure. It's a book about fasting and how many issues seem to resolve themselves if you just fast. It's not suitable for everyone. But by the way, we're evolved to handle fasting.

There is an interesting book. I don't love every aspect of it, but I believe it's called The Oldest Cure. It's a book about fasting and how many issues seem to resolve themselves if you just fast. It's not suitable for everyone. But by the way, we're evolved to handle fasting.

How many things just go away? If you stop... If you give your body a chance to rest as all animals do and just take a break from food or take a break from carbohydrates and go on a ketogenic diet.

How many things just go away? If you stop... If you give your body a chance to rest as all animals do and just take a break from food or take a break from carbohydrates and go on a ketogenic diet.

For instance, a lot of these intractable, sometimes considered untreatable psychiatric conditions respond really well to something that's now called metabolic psychiatry, which in simple terms is putting people on a ketogenic diet. And it's protein and fat. So Chris Palmer of Harvard, if people want to look into this, has spoken really well on this.

For instance, a lot of these intractable, sometimes considered untreatable psychiatric conditions respond really well to something that's now called metabolic psychiatry, which in simple terms is putting people on a ketogenic diet. And it's protein and fat. So Chris Palmer of Harvard, if people want to look into this, has spoken really well on this.

I interviewed him on the podcast, but he has a book as well. And people who are on a dozen medications for borderline personality disorder, schizophrenia, go on a ketogenic diet, and literally within a week, 90% of their symptoms go away.

I interviewed him on the podcast, but he has a book as well. And people who are on a dozen medications for borderline personality disorder, schizophrenia, go on a ketogenic diet, and literally within a week, 90% of their symptoms go away.

So for me, I think about maybe a better way to put it is subtraction as much as I think about addition, whereas previously I think I was very addition focused because that's how you come pre-programmed if you are in the U.S. and a lot of places. But you come pre-programmed to look for what to add. And I think that in a lot of cases, that's a mistake. Okay, so these are things I think of.

So for me, I think about maybe a better way to put it is subtraction as much as I think about addition, whereas previously I think I was very addition focused because that's how you come pre-programmed if you are in the U.S. and a lot of places. But you come pre-programmed to look for what to add. And I think that in a lot of cases, that's a mistake. Okay, so these are things I think of.

What was it?

What was it?

I'm not going to say it applies to everybody, but just in terms of health.

I'm not going to say it applies to everybody, but just in terms of health.

Yeah, your mileage may vary. So number one, diet and exercise, it sounds so boring. But the further along people get, if you look at, say, Peter Atiyah, who is very credible and knows how to read research, knows how to perform research,

Yeah, your mileage may vary. So number one, diet and exercise, it sounds so boring. But the further along people get, if you look at, say, Peter Atiyah, who is very credible and knows how to read research, knows how to perform research,

and does a great job, I think, on The Drive, his podcast, and also on his website and in his membership pieces of his program of breaking down scientific studies and showing where things are hyperbole, where things are exaggerated, and where things are mistranslated by the media. Very valuable. He has a series of blog posts called Studying the Studies, which I encourage everybody to read.

and does a great job, I think, on The Drive, his podcast, and also on his website and in his membership pieces of his program of breaking down scientific studies and showing where things are hyperbole, where things are exaggerated, and where things are mistranslated by the media. Very valuable. He has a series of blog posts called Studying the Studies, which I encourage everybody to read.

But the point of saying all that is that the more he learns, the more he's like, yeah, you got to do weight training. You got to do zone two, which is getting your heart rate, certain types of cardio, and probably a good idea to limit some of your carbohydrate intake. And that's what you should do.

But the point of saying all that is that the more he learns, the more he's like, yeah, you got to do weight training. You got to do zone two, which is getting your heart rate, certain types of cardio, and probably a good idea to limit some of your carbohydrate intake. And that's what you should do.

And for instance, I've spoken to researchers at the very, very tops of their fields who specialize in things like metformin. So metformin

And for instance, I've spoken to researchers at the very, very tops of their fields who specialize in things like metformin. So metformin

is a drug that like a lot of drugs like glp-1 agonists like ozempic and so on these were designed for type 2 diabetics in most cases or in a lot of cases and then rich people start toying with them for weight loss or whatever it might be longevity you say it like that because it's always it gets in the hands of longevity medicine doctors and we figure out

is a drug that like a lot of drugs like glp-1 agonists like ozempic and so on these were designed for type 2 diabetics in most cases or in a lot of cases and then rich people start toying with them for weight loss or whatever it might be longevity you say it like that because it's always it gets in the hands of longevity medicine doctors and we figure out

No, but that highlights how much of it I had.

No, but that highlights how much of it I had.

Yeah, so it starts with rich people who test it on themselves and then it might start with bodybuilders or people like wasting diseases, right? These sort of edge cases then bleed in and then they become bigger things. But I was talking to this and a lot of these, so I'll give an example of something that some very wealthy people do. They might use something like Metformin for longevity.

Yeah, so it starts with rich people who test it on themselves and then it might start with bodybuilders or people like wasting diseases, right? These sort of edge cases then bleed in and then they become bigger things. But I was talking to this and a lot of these, so I'll give an example of something that some very wealthy people do. They might use something like Metformin for longevity.

They don't really have their diet or exercise super dialed. They're half-assing it, but they take metformin. And when I talked to, I'm not going to mention my name, but a very famous researcher at a very well-known university. And he's like, yeah, I don't think it makes any sense for you to take metformin. And I was like, what do you mean? And he's like, you're already getting metformin.

They don't really have their diet or exercise super dialed. They're half-assing it, but they take metformin. And when I talked to, I'm not going to mention my name, but a very famous researcher at a very well-known university. And he's like, yeah, I don't think it makes any sense for you to take metformin. And I was like, what do you mean? And he's like, you're already getting metformin.

99% of the benefits by having your exercise and diet dialed. He said, if you have a huge deficiency in those areas, yeah, you'll see that some benefits because you're using it as a correction for other deficits. But if you're already doing what you're doing, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

99% of the benefits by having your exercise and diet dialed. He said, if you have a huge deficiency in those areas, yeah, you'll see that some benefits because you're using it as a correction for other deficits. But if you're already doing what you're doing, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Okay.

Okay.

Oh, wow. Look at this.

Oh, wow. Look at this.

No, he's not saying they should use it to compensate.

No, he's not saying they should use it to compensate.

He's saying people do use it to compensate. But if you're already getting exercise, you don't need exercise in a pill. And we know that exercise, as long as you don't get injured, has pretty limited side effects, right? We've been exercising as a species for a long time. We've been doing manual labor for a long time. Whereas metformin? Really? Who knows? Right?

He's saying people do use it to compensate. But if you're already getting exercise, you don't need exercise in a pill. And we know that exercise, as long as you don't get injured, has pretty limited side effects, right? We've been exercising as a species for a long time. We've been doing manual labor for a long time. Whereas metformin? Really? Who knows? Right?

There are lots of drugs that come out like thalidomide. Remember that one?

There are lots of drugs that come out like thalidomide. Remember that one?

There are drugs. Takes a long time to figure out.

There are drugs. Takes a long time to figure out.

That was a disaster. And now people are having like three-eyed babies. Fantastic.

That was a disaster. And now people are having like three-eyed babies. Fantastic.

I do think less is more. And if someone were going to, you don't need a $30,000 cold plunge, right? Number one, if you wanted to do something like that, You can get like a $100 inflatable cold plunge on Amazon.

I do think less is more. And if someone were going to, you don't need a $30,000 cold plunge, right? Number one, if you wanted to do something like that, You can get like a $100 inflatable cold plunge on Amazon.

It's annoying. But it's not expensive.

It's annoying. But it's not expensive.

Try before you buy.

Try before you buy.

Also, forget about the inflatable thing. Look, go to a gas station. This is what I did for years, way back in the day. Just buy bags of ice, put it in your bathtub.

Also, forget about the inflatable thing. Look, go to a gas station. This is what I did for years, way back in the day. Just buy bags of ice, put it in your bathtub.

Try it out for a few weeks.

Try it out for a few weeks.

That's really sweet.

That's really sweet.

Yeah, it depends. Like for me, it's a very good investment because it helps with anti-inflammation without me chewing on Advil all day with various sports injuries I've accumulated, which comes back to the exercise.

Yeah, it depends. Like for me, it's a very good investment because it helps with anti-inflammation without me chewing on Advil all day with various sports injuries I've accumulated, which comes back to the exercise.

Oh, I mean, I've had 20 plus fractures, so oops. But secondly, mood elevation.

Oh, I mean, I've had 20 plus fractures, so oops. But secondly, mood elevation.

So for anti-depression, for anti-anxiety, cold for me is the best pill you can buy.

So for anti-depression, for anti-anxiety, cold for me is the best pill you can buy.

Oh, yeah. Super obvious.

Oh, yeah. Super obvious.

Oh, it's super obvious. It's not subtle. Interesting. It's not subtle. And cold baths used to be prescribed by doctors for melancholy back in the day. What is this? Depression. It's just an older label for it. And then that fell out of favor because it's a pain in the ass to administer. People would go to these sanatoriums and they'd sit in a bath with their head popping out with a cover.

Oh, it's super obvious. It's not subtle. Interesting. It's not subtle. And cold baths used to be prescribed by doctors for melancholy back in the day. What is this? Depression. It's just an older label for it. And then that fell out of favor because it's a pain in the ass to administer. People would go to these sanatoriums and they'd sit in a bath with their head popping out with a cover.

It looks bizarre. People didn't want to go to these places just to sit in cold baths. Sounds pretty miserable. And nonetheless, I do think there was a kernel of something valuable there. In terms of longevity and so on, let's ask a clarifying question because this is important. what are we really trying to accomplish? What is the outcome that you want?

It looks bizarre. People didn't want to go to these places just to sit in cold baths. Sounds pretty miserable. And nonetheless, I do think there was a kernel of something valuable there. In terms of longevity and so on, let's ask a clarifying question because this is important. what are we really trying to accomplish? What is the outcome that you want?

Because there's also not to get too fine tuned here, but there's lifespan, like at what age do you die? And then there's health span, meaning how mobile, how fast, how active, how cognitively sharp do you want to be for how long?

Because there's also not to get too fine tuned here, but there's lifespan, like at what age do you die? And then there's health span, meaning how mobile, how fast, how active, how cognitively sharp do you want to be for how long?

I don't, I have no idea.

I don't, I have no idea.

yes these are different things totally and different protocols they're different for instance you could do we know that caloric restriction works for life extension but do you want to live a life unfortunately okay speaking let's just say as a male i mean i was going to say it might make your hair fall out i don't have to worry about that but like hair falling out plummeting testosterone no libido is that the life you want to have like 70 good years where you eat well then 90 restricted state

yes these are different things totally and different protocols they're different for instance you could do we know that caloric restriction works for life extension but do you want to live a life unfortunately okay speaking let's just say as a male i mean i was going to say it might make your hair fall out i don't have to worry about that but like hair falling out plummeting testosterone no libido is that the life you want to have like 70 good years where you eat well then 90 restricted state

Yeah. Also, which is why I do not think I'll give you two opposing perspectives in a sense.

Yeah. Also, which is why I do not think I'll give you two opposing perspectives in a sense.

I'll give you two opposing perspectives in a sense. So the first is I told you I have a low cost, like low burn lifestyle. Generally, the one place where I do spend a lot of money is with very good concierge doctors.

I'll give you two opposing perspectives in a sense. So the first is I told you I have a low cost, like low burn lifestyle. Generally, the one place where I do spend a lot of money is with very good concierge doctors.

So if you're going to make money for something, I think the highest leverage use of money is Probably personal trainers, which I do not currently use, but I use coaches for various sports. And then it would be really good doctors who have great access for you and your family to specialists, have access to the latest research.

So if you're going to make money for something, I think the highest leverage use of money is Probably personal trainers, which I do not currently use, but I use coaches for various sports. And then it would be really good doctors who have great access for you and your family to specialists, have access to the latest research.

So that just proves that I'm not always a good investor.

So that just proves that I'm not always a good investor.

who can move mountains to make things happen quickly, who know how to do really high-end diagnostics. That's where you spend money. Most of the ingredients that a doctor who's very good, in my opinion, who's looking at the full spectrum of inputs, Peter Tia Wood, it's not just, which problems do you have? Which pills can I prescribe? It's

who can move mountains to make things happen quickly, who know how to do really high-end diagnostics. That's where you spend money. Most of the ingredients that a doctor who's very good, in my opinion, who's looking at the full spectrum of inputs, Peter Tia Wood, it's not just, which problems do you have? Which pills can I prescribe? It's

the diet the exercise etc those don't need to cost a lot and exercise look you can get a gym membership for what 20 to 100 bucks a month and if you're not exercising yet you don't even need that and you don't even need that you don't even need that you get one kettlebell you can have an amazing gym my gym for many years even though i could afford to do the fancy stuff was a few kettlebells in my garage that's it and i was in incredible shape i was in such better shape than i am now

the diet the exercise etc those don't need to cost a lot and exercise look you can get a gym membership for what 20 to 100 bucks a month and if you're not exercising yet you don't even need that and you don't even need that you don't even need that you get one kettlebell you can have an amazing gym my gym for many years even though i could afford to do the fancy stuff was a few kettlebells in my garage that's it and i was in incredible shape i was in such better shape than i am now

And that's it. Right. And the other place I would spend money is on quality food. Not everybody can. But if you can avoid pesticides to the extent possible, that's a good investment. Right. Look up the dirty dozen. For instance, there's a list of vegetables called the dirty dozen and then clean 15 or something like that.

And that's it. Right. And the other place I would spend money is on quality food. Not everybody can. But if you can avoid pesticides to the extent possible, that's a good investment. Right. Look up the dirty dozen. For instance, there's a list of vegetables called the dirty dozen and then clean 15 or something like that.

I put this all in the 4-Hour Body, not trying to sell that book, but a lot of it holds up. That came out in 2010, and it highlighted a lot that has since become mainstream. Cold exposure, glucose monitors, continuous glucose monitors.

I put this all in the 4-Hour Body, not trying to sell that book, but a lot of it holds up. That came out in 2010, and it highlighted a lot that has since become mainstream. Cold exposure, glucose monitors, continuous glucose monitors.

Yeah, it's all mainstream now, a lot of it. So if you look at these vegetables, those will basically indicate, in the case of The Dirty Dozen, the fruits and vegetables that are most...

Yeah, it's all mainstream now, a lot of it. So if you look at these vegetables, those will basically indicate, in the case of The Dirty Dozen, the fruits and vegetables that are most...

I don't even love myself $1,000 worth. Thank you so much.

I don't even love myself $1,000 worth. Thank you so much.

typically covered with pesticides and other types of industrial chemicals and you just avoid those or maybe choose organic for those if you're going to consume them and then the clean 15 those that are generally going to have the lowest load of pesticides and so on like you do not need to be a millionaire to do that I was doing that when I was making 50 grand a year like you can pick and choose like do what you can

typically covered with pesticides and other types of industrial chemicals and you just avoid those or maybe choose organic for those if you're going to consume them and then the clean 15 those that are generally going to have the lowest load of pesticides and so on like you do not need to be a millionaire to do that I was doing that when I was making 50 grand a year like you can pick and choose like do what you can

So this will be, I will break my booze fast with Block 6 Shiraz.

So this will be, I will break my booze fast with Block 6 Shiraz.

It doesn't need to be perfect. Just like, it's like the meditating. Can't do an hour a day? Fine. Can you do 30 seconds a day? Great. Like maybe you have one thing you like, raspberries or blackberries, I'm making these up, but berries often get a lot of spray. Okay. Maybe just for the berries, you pay the extra $2 for the organic.

It doesn't need to be perfect. Just like, it's like the meditating. Can't do an hour a day? Fine. Can you do 30 seconds a day? Great. Like maybe you have one thing you like, raspberries or blackberries, I'm making these up, but berries often get a lot of spray. Okay. Maybe just for the berries, you pay the extra $2 for the organic.

If that's an assurance that there are low pesticides, it may not be.

If that's an assurance that there are low pesticides, it may not be.

It gets a little tricky, but I'm saying do what you can. And that's it. So I really think a lot about minimizing... Chemicals, heavy metals, like I very rarely eat tuna, for instance. Any bioaccumulator, like larger animals that would accumulate.

It gets a little tricky, but I'm saying do what you can. And that's it. So I really think a lot about minimizing... Chemicals, heavy metals, like I very rarely eat tuna, for instance. Any bioaccumulator, like larger animals that would accumulate.

More mercury and other things. Might have other heavy metals, things like arsenic. So that's easy.

More mercury and other things. Might have other heavy metals, things like arsenic. So that's easy.

Yeah, not eating tuna. Yeah, it's pretty easy. So they're little things like that. Or for instance, in the case, this is going to be out of reach for a lot of folks, but

Yeah, not eating tuna. Yeah, it's pretty easy. So they're little things like that. Or for instance, in the case, this is going to be out of reach for a lot of folks, but

Every once in a while, I will abstain for anywhere from a week to a month from anything that I think has become impulsive or oversaturated in my life as a behavior.

Every once in a while, I will abstain for anywhere from a week to a month from anything that I think has become impulsive or oversaturated in my life as a behavior.

you're going to eat say red meat which i do try to get we can leave the ethics aside but just try to get the most nutrient-dense clean meat you can and maybe that means you hunt once a year like i do right maybe that but seriously like maybe that means you hunt once a year and that's a few months of meat and then you trade with people to get other things like i do also you do that you trade the meat that you hunt yeah

you're going to eat say red meat which i do try to get we can leave the ethics aside but just try to get the most nutrient-dense clean meat you can and maybe that means you hunt once a year like i do right maybe that but seriously like maybe that means you hunt once a year and that's a few months of meat and then you trade with people to get other things like i do also you do that you trade the meat that you hunt yeah

Yeah, I don't sell it. That's illegal. But it's if I have a friend who's got a moose, I got an elk. And then I have a friend who's got a million pounds of tomatoes, and I can't even look at another tomato. And then I have another friend who does a salmon fishing trip once a year, and I can't have another salmon sandwich. Great. Then you can mix and match.

Yeah, I don't sell it. That's illegal. But it's if I have a friend who's got a moose, I got an elk. And then I have a friend who's got a million pounds of tomatoes, and I can't even look at another tomato. And then I have another friend who does a salmon fishing trip once a year, and I can't have another salmon sandwich. Great. Then you can mix and match.

And that is something very poor people do all over the place, is hunt, right? Yeah. If you're like, well, I can't afford Whole Foods. Fine. Okay. There are options.

And that is something very poor people do all over the place, is hunt, right? Yeah. If you're like, well, I can't afford Whole Foods. Fine. Okay. There are options.

I'm not saying that you're going to love all the options, but there are options.

I'm not saying that you're going to love all the options, but there are options.

And every once in a while, am I going to have a poke bowl with tuna? Yeah, sure. Fine. Every once in a while. Skip the tuna mostly. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying that it's very easy to believe. I've spent a lot of money testing all sorts of things.

And every once in a while, am I going to have a poke bowl with tuna? Yeah, sure. Fine. Every once in a while. Skip the tuna mostly. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying that it's very easy to believe. I've spent a lot of money testing all sorts of things.

It's very easy to believe, especially if you're on social media where half of the influencers are trying to sell you something because they get a kickback or they get a sponsorship payment or they have some rev share, whatever it might be.

It's very easy to believe, especially if you're on social media where half of the influencers are trying to sell you something because they get a kickback or they get a sponsorship payment or they have some rev share, whatever it might be.

you need to go to this clinic to get peptides, to get stem cells, to get this, that, or the other thing, and you go to the website and you're like, oh my god, this is $20,000. There's a lot of bullshit out there. And there are also some good things out there, but we live in a capitalist society. I'm a capitalist. I think there's a lot to be said for market-driven solutions.

you need to go to this clinic to get peptides, to get stem cells, to get this, that, or the other thing, and you go to the website and you're like, oh my god, this is $20,000. There's a lot of bullshit out there. And there are also some good things out there, but we live in a capitalist society. I'm a capitalist. I think there's a lot to be said for market-driven solutions.

It's not a perfect system. Lots of issues, too. But you're dealing with social media platforms that want to make money. People are attracted to those also sometimes because they want to make money. So you just need to know that you're swimming in those waters. So when you go online, you might find various biohackers and they're almost all selling stuff. What does that mean?

It's not a perfect system. Lots of issues, too. But you're dealing with social media platforms that want to make money. People are attracted to those also sometimes because they want to make money. So you just need to know that you're swimming in those waters. So when you go online, you might find various biohackers and they're almost all selling stuff. What does that mean?

It means that to emulate them is going to be, surprise, surprise, expensive. But for instance, like, Very hard to sell fasting. Like, who's going to profit from fasting?

It means that to emulate them is going to be, surprise, surprise, expensive. But for instance, like, Very hard to sell fasting. Like, who's going to profit from fasting?

I find it easier to abstain from multiple things at a time. I feel like the incremental cost of each additional abstinence is lower. So if you're going to abstain, I like doing more than one at a time. I mean, I'm not sure we want to get into this right now.

I find it easier to abstain from multiple things at a time. I feel like the incremental cost of each additional abstinence is lower. So if you're going to abstain, I like doing more than one at a time. I mean, I'm not sure we want to get into this right now.

Yeah, I'm getting rich off of telling people to stop eating for a few days.

Yeah, I'm getting rich off of telling people to stop eating for a few days.

Oh, none whatsoever.

Oh, none whatsoever.

Yeah, if I wanted to make... I could have made... I mean, I could have made probably, and I don't think this is an exaggeration, probably $100 million for now. If I had launched a supplement company with the 4-Hour Body, I did not want people to question my credibility or my motives. So my currency is credibility. That is the story I tell myself, that it is more valuable than the cash.

Yeah, if I wanted to make... I could have made... I mean, I could have made probably, and I don't think this is an exaggeration, probably $100 million for now. If I had launched a supplement company with the 4-Hour Body, I did not want people to question my credibility or my motives. So my currency is credibility. That is the story I tell myself, that it is more valuable than the cash.

Yeah, I don't do that. That is where it is most expensive for me.

Yeah, I don't do that. That is where it is most expensive for me.

Which means, for instance, I try not to do it. Sometimes it slips through because I have multiple people working on stuff, but the clickbait headlines for videos and so on, I really try not to do that. Yeah. And I get severely penalized for that. I want to just clarify one thing, too, that...

Which means, for instance, I try not to do it. Sometimes it slips through because I have multiple people working on stuff, but the clickbait headlines for videos and so on, I really try not to do that. Yeah. And I get severely penalized for that. I want to just clarify one thing, too, that...

not everyone on social media who is selling something or getting a rev share is doing that in bad faith, right? There are, everybody's got to make a living. And also there are people who really believe in whatever they happen to be recommending, right? Look, I think disclosure is important, right? But like the way app with Henry Shookman, like I'm an investor.

not everyone on social media who is selling something or getting a rev share is doing that in bad faith, right? There are, everybody's got to make a living. And also there are people who really believe in whatever they happen to be recommending, right? Look, I think disclosure is important, right? But like the way app with Henry Shookman, like I'm an investor.

I invested super early when they basically had nothing because I had him as a podcast guest and I was like, this guy knows what he's doing. Yeah. And one of my friend's lives was totally transformed, Kevin Rose, by Henry. And I was like, okay, sure. But I'm disclosing it. So the disclosure is super important. And there are some really fascinating things out there.

I invested super early when they basically had nothing because I had him as a podcast guest and I was like, this guy knows what he's doing. Yeah. And one of my friend's lives was totally transformed, Kevin Rose, by Henry. And I was like, okay, sure. But I'm disclosing it. So the disclosure is super important. And there are some really fascinating things out there.

So just because someone is selling something or recommending something they get a rev share on does not mean that you shouldn't pay attention, but you should be aware that that you might be asking a barber if you need a haircut.

So just because someone is selling something or recommending something they get a rev share on does not mean that you shouldn't pay attention, but you should be aware that that you might be asking a barber if you need a haircut.

Right? In which case the answer's going to be yes. There are some drugs that I think are interesting, but I'm not at a point where I would... Rapamycin.

Right? In which case the answer's going to be yes. There are some drugs that I think are interesting, but I'm not at a point where I would... Rapamycin.

I do think rapamycin is very interesting. It's an immunosuppressant. It's used in organ transplants. You have to be very careful with something like this. But Peter Tia talks much more credibly about rapamycin. So I would listen to something that he's put out related to rapamycin. And I remember interviewing a number of experts on a trip to Easter Island, actually. And we talked about rapamycin.

I do think rapamycin is very interesting. It's an immunosuppressant. It's used in organ transplants. You have to be very careful with something like this. But Peter Tia talks much more credibly about rapamycin. So I would listen to something that he's put out related to rapamycin. And I remember interviewing a number of experts on a trip to Easter Island, actually. And we talked about rapamycin.

No booze, no masturbating, and no coffee for the next month.

No booze, no masturbating, and no coffee for the next month.

This was probably close to 10 years ago. Wow. Eight to ten years ago.

This was probably close to 10 years ago. Wow. Eight to ten years ago.

And that's because rapamycin was first isolated and identified on Easter Island, even though it occurs many other places. And the native name for Easter Island is Rapa Nui, which is why rapamycin is called rapamycin. So to come back to your question, let me lay out just a couple of things that are... critical for me. I think the meditation of some type, right?

And that's because rapamycin was first isolated and identified on Easter Island, even though it occurs many other places. And the native name for Easter Island is Rapa Nui, which is why rapamycin is called rapamycin. So to come back to your question, let me lay out just a couple of things that are... critical for me. I think the meditation of some type, right?

Archery, I think is meditation for me as well.

Archery, I think is meditation for me as well.

But I don't want to split too many hairs here. Weight training, non-negotiable, right? As you get older, cardio is not enough for men and women. I would say, I would say especially women with the risks of osteoporosis and so on and sarcopenia, which is age related muscle loss. Mm-hmm.

But I don't want to split too many hairs here. Weight training, non-negotiable, right? As you get older, cardio is not enough for men and women. I would say, I would say especially women with the risks of osteoporosis and so on and sarcopenia, which is age related muscle loss. Mm-hmm.

If you don't want to fall and break a hip and then die a handful of years later, which is very often what happens, you need to have muscular strength. The most reliable way to do that, perhaps the only way to reliably do that in modern society, is to do resistance training. And if you are a woman listening to this, you are not going to become super bulky and look like...

If you don't want to fall and break a hip and then die a handful of years later, which is very often what happens, you need to have muscular strength. The most reliable way to do that, perhaps the only way to reliably do that in modern society, is to do resistance training. And if you are a woman listening to this, you are not going to become super bulky and look like...

It's like you wish you could. Professional bodybuilder. It ain't going to happen overnight, certainly. So strength train. And at least most of the guys I know, they're attracted to strong women. Doesn't mean... CrossFit Games champion, but like strong women, dancers.

It's like you wish you could. Professional bodybuilder. It ain't going to happen overnight, certainly. So strength train. And at least most of the guys I know, they're attracted to strong women. Doesn't mean... CrossFit Games champion, but like strong women, dancers.

Just based on my response, I'll let you guess.

Just based on my response, I'll let you guess.

But women, I would say, and I don't know the exact number, but it's something that they have 1 20th to 1 10th of the circulating testosterone in men. Men have trouble putting on muscle. A lot of men want to put on muscle and they have a hard time. So don't worry about getting bulky. but do focus on getting strong.

But women, I would say, and I don't know the exact number, but it's something that they have 1 20th to 1 10th of the circulating testosterone in men. Men have trouble putting on muscle. A lot of men want to put on muscle and they have a hard time. So don't worry about getting bulky. but do focus on getting strong.

And the way to do that, keep it simple once or twice a week, very slow cadence weight training. What does that mean? That just means like five to 10 seconds up, five to 10 seconds back until you have muscular failure where you can't get any further, push for another five seconds.

And the way to do that, keep it simple once or twice a week, very slow cadence weight training. What does that mean? That just means like five to 10 seconds up, five to 10 seconds back until you have muscular failure where you can't get any further, push for another five seconds.

you're done with that exercise hit all your major muscle groups it should only take about a half hour maybe less do that once or twice a week you're done you're done and then there are other things like the aerobic training zone too stuff like that also doesn't need to be expensive right get a bicycle

you're done with that exercise hit all your major muscle groups it should only take about a half hour maybe less do that once or twice a week you're done you're done and then there are other things like the aerobic training zone too stuff like that also doesn't need to be expensive right get a bicycle

run up run up a hill yeah do kettlebell swings there are a million ways to do it the expense is not an excuse and by the way if you're like i can't afford a kettlebell there's something called the t-bar kettlebell you can go to a plumbing store and buy materials for five to ten dollars where you can make your own adjustable weight kettlebell then you do need plates but the plates are like a dollar a pound so fine and if you want purely body weight stuff that is really effective gymnastic strength training

run up run up a hill yeah do kettlebell swings there are a million ways to do it the expense is not an excuse and by the way if you're like i can't afford a kettlebell there's something called the t-bar kettlebell you can go to a plumbing store and buy materials for five to ten dollars where you can make your own adjustable weight kettlebell then you do need plates but the plates are like a dollar a pound so fine and if you want purely body weight stuff that is really effective gymnastic strength training

To the most biblical abstinence. Yeah, there are a lot of benefits. I just feel like anything that has become a coping mechanism for when you feel something you don't want to feel, which could be feeling... It could be feeling stressed. It could be feeling rushed. It could be feeling on edge.

To the most biblical abstinence. Yeah, there are a lot of benefits. I just feel like anything that has become a coping mechanism for when you feel something you don't want to feel, which could be feeling... It could be feeling stressed. It could be feeling rushed. It could be feeling on edge.

GST with a guy named Chris Summer, who's the former coach for the men's national team in the U.S. No weights required.

GST with a guy named Chris Summer, who's the former coach for the men's national team in the U.S. No weights required.

I have done gymnastics strength training. I'm not really built for gymnastics. Just too many fractures and wrist issues and stuff. But you can get in tremendous shape without weights at all. It's still resistance training. You're just using body weight and different ways to approach that.

I have done gymnastics strength training. I'm not really built for gymnastics. Just too many fractures and wrist issues and stuff. But you can get in tremendous shape without weights at all. It's still resistance training. You're just using body weight and different ways to approach that.

So this is just a long way of saying that you don't need to spend what a lot of these folks online pride themselves on, which is I spend $200,000 a year. I spend a million dollars a year on this and this. You don't need to do that. Let them do that. They might find something interesting.

So this is just a long way of saying that you don't need to spend what a lot of these folks online pride themselves on, which is I spend $200,000 a year. I spend a million dollars a year on this and this. You don't need to do that. Let them do that. They might find something interesting.

Yeah, fantastic.

Yeah, fantastic.

If suddenly you have a coping mechanism to deal with that, which can be very socially acceptable, it could just be one glass of wine every night. It could be going out. with friends to a party. It could be going to Netflix, right? It could be getting on your phone and wasting an hour before you get to bed on Instagram. It could be any number of things.

If suddenly you have a coping mechanism to deal with that, which can be very socially acceptable, it could just be one glass of wine every night. It could be going out. with friends to a party. It could be going to Netflix, right? It could be getting on your phone and wasting an hour before you get to bed on Instagram. It could be any number of things.

And when I suspect I may have one or more of those things, I like to prove to myself that I can stop. And also, this is not too technical, but basically reset my... reward centers so that I'm not suffering from some type of hedonic adaptation with things that should be rewarding, right?

And when I suspect I may have one or more of those things, I like to prove to myself that I can stop. And also, this is not too technical, but basically reset my... reward centers so that I'm not suffering from some type of hedonic adaptation with things that should be rewarding, right?

Yeah, it's true for money. It's true for lifestyle inflation. It's true for so many different things. And if you overindulge chocolate, you eat it too much, what happens? You stop getting the same reward from eating said chocolate. So you either need something higher octane or you need more chocolate. And I don't think that leads good places typically.

Yeah, it's true for money. It's true for lifestyle inflation. It's true for so many different things. And if you overindulge chocolate, you eat it too much, what happens? You stop getting the same reward from eating said chocolate. So you either need something higher octane or you need more chocolate. And I don't think that leads good places typically.

So there are some places where adaptation is great, weight training, exercise, fantastic, but those are positive stressors. Whereas a lot of the things that we use as coping mechanisms, I would say are neutral or negative stressors.

So there are some places where adaptation is great, weight training, exercise, fantastic, but those are positive stressors. Whereas a lot of the things that we use as coping mechanisms, I would say are neutral or negative stressors.

If you find a, I'd say if there's a degree of guilt associated with it, if you're like, it would really be probably good for me if I dialed this back. Could be anything. Could be sleeping in. Could be sleeping too much. Could be sleeping too little. There isn't any specific category. And it's not like I constantly take a fine-tooth comb over my whole life looking for these things.

If you find a, I'd say if there's a degree of guilt associated with it, if you're like, it would really be probably good for me if I dialed this back. Could be anything. Could be sleeping in. Could be sleeping too much. Could be sleeping too little. There isn't any specific category. And it's not like I constantly take a fine-tooth comb over my whole life looking for these things.

I think that they're pretty obvious. if somebody just sits down and reflects for a second, what am I doing when I feel off kilter or I want to feel better, what do I do? And let's look at the list of things. If it's go for a run, okay, cool. If it's overeat late at night as a binge, probably not, right?

I think that they're pretty obvious. if somebody just sits down and reflects for a second, what am I doing when I feel off kilter or I want to feel better, what do I do? And let's look at the list of things. If it's go for a run, okay, cool. If it's overeat late at night as a binge, probably not, right?

So look, I screw up all the time too, not to make it seem like I'm just hitting home runs and pointing at center field all day. That's not how life works. But I would say at least once a year, I like to do an extended fast of whatever my latest list of, it's not really a list, like few compulsive things might be. Could be sweet, right? I've gone a month without having anything sweetened.

So look, I screw up all the time too, not to make it seem like I'm just hitting home runs and pointing at center field all day. That's not how life works. But I would say at least once a year, I like to do an extended fast of whatever my latest list of, it's not really a list, like few compulsive things might be. Could be sweet, right? I've gone a month without having anything sweetened.

That'd be an example.

That'd be an example.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, for sure.

First week is the hardest.

First week is the hardest.

Just one degree.

Just one degree.

One degree here or there makes a big difference.

One degree here or there makes a big difference.

In the 10 years?

In the 10 years?

Give me one or three. I would say off the top of my head, a few that come to mind. would be, and it's very, I'm going to make a meta observation about this first one, which is 70 to 80% of the people I've interviewed have some type of meditation practice. It can take many different forms. It could be some type of repetitive exercise.

Give me one or three. I would say off the top of my head, a few that come to mind. would be, and it's very, I'm going to make a meta observation about this first one, which is 70 to 80% of the people I've interviewed have some type of meditation practice. It can take many different forms. It could be some type of repetitive exercise.

It could be some type of seated meditation, but it also raises the question for anyone who's studying successes in quotation marks. I think this is a very important

It could be some type of seated meditation, but it also raises the question for anyone who's studying successes in quotation marks. I think this is a very important

stress test and that is or at least a skeptical stance you should take which is is this what made them successful or did they start doing this after they were successful okay it's very easy to get those mixed up yes narrative fallacy narrative fallacy it's very easy to mix those up so i don't really know the answer okay i don't know if it's possible to know the answer but suffice to say that very high percentage have some type of meditation practice which has been

stress test and that is or at least a skeptical stance you should take which is is this what made them successful or did they start doing this after they were successful okay it's very easy to get those mixed up yes narrative fallacy narrative fallacy it's very easy to mix those up so i don't really know the answer okay i don't know if it's possible to know the answer but suffice to say that very high percentage have some type of meditation practice which has been

a great motivator for me to do the basics, right? Like meditate 10 minutes twice a day is what I'm doing right now.

a great motivator for me to do the basics, right? Like meditate 10 minutes twice a day is what I'm doing right now.

And I usually meditate like after I have a little bit of tea, let's just say that's fair game to try not to do it right after eating. I don't think that's fantastic. I tend to be a little distracted. Um, by the digestion and then before dinner or before bed is usually when I would do it. In the middle of the day, I find too hard. I find it too hard with like Transcendental Meditation.

And I usually meditate like after I have a little bit of tea, let's just say that's fair game to try not to do it right after eating. I don't think that's fantastic. I tend to be a little distracted. Um, by the digestion and then before dinner or before bed is usually when I would do it. In the middle of the day, I find too hard. I find it too hard with like Transcendental Meditation.

They're like 3 p.m. I'm like, that's a really, really inconvenient time before dinner or before bed.

They're like 3 p.m. I'm like, that's a really, really inconvenient time before dinner or before bed.

Just use nap, like make it easy. Do the easy thing first. That's true with any type of new behavioral change. Like do the easy thing first. If it's exercise, choose something you like. And if you can't find something you like, do the least necessary, not the most possible.

Just use nap, like make it easy. Do the easy thing first. That's true with any type of new behavioral change. Like do the easy thing first. If it's exercise, choose something you like. And if you can't find something you like, do the least necessary, not the most possible.

If you're like, I'm going to make this New Year's resolution and exercise an hour a day, it's like if you have no exercise habit, do 10 or 20 minutes three times a week. Start there. And then you can pass that pass-fail you've set for yourself. And you can always increase the scope of it. But set it up so that you can win in the beginning. So for me, 10 minutes twice a day, I can't legitimately...

If you're like, I'm going to make this New Year's resolution and exercise an hour a day, it's like if you have no exercise habit, do 10 or 20 minutes three times a week. Start there. And then you can pass that pass-fail you've set for yourself. And you can always increase the scope of it. But set it up so that you can win in the beginning. So for me, 10 minutes twice a day, I can't legitimately...

excuse not doing that. If you don't have 10 minutes twice a day, you don't have your priorities straight at all. You have no control over your life if you can't save 10 minutes twice a day. So I'll use an app. There's an app called The Way with a guy named Henry Shookman that I've been using now for the last month or so. I invested in it a long time ago because I love Henry.

excuse not doing that. If you don't have 10 minutes twice a day, you don't have your priorities straight at all. You have no control over your life if you can't save 10 minutes twice a day. So I'll use an app. There's an app called The Way with a guy named Henry Shookman that I've been using now for the last month or so. I invested in it a long time ago because I love Henry.

He's actually been on the podcast twice. He's a Zen master. I hate that term master, but he's one of the few Zen teachers, one of three or four authorized to teach in the United States in this particular Zen tradition. And I really find it deeply inspiring. settling in some way.

He's actually been on the podcast twice. He's a Zen master. I hate that term master, but he's one of the few Zen teachers, one of three or four authorized to teach in the United States in this particular Zen tradition. And I really find it deeply inspiring. settling in some way.

The metaphor I would use, and I'm borrowing this from someone who wrote this a long time ago, can't remember the attribution, some Japanese monk. And he said, basically, meditating is a practice. It's called practice for a reason, because you may sit down and feel like you're doing nothing. You may feel like your monkey mind is just going berserk with your eyes closed.

The metaphor I would use, and I'm borrowing this from someone who wrote this a long time ago, can't remember the attribution, some Japanese monk. And he said, basically, meditating is a practice. It's called practice for a reason, because you may sit down and feel like you're doing nothing. You may feel like your monkey mind is just going berserk with your eyes closed.

But each time you sit and you're still It's like taking a muddy glass of water and putting in just a little bit of clear water. And every time you sit, you're putting in clear water. And as you sit more and more, it becomes more and more transparent and the sediment settles. And that's, I think, very reassuring for people who sit and they're like, I can't do this. I'm not built for this.

But each time you sit and you're still It's like taking a muddy glass of water and putting in just a little bit of clear water. And every time you sit, you're putting in clear water. And as you sit more and more, it becomes more and more transparent and the sediment settles. And that's, I think, very reassuring for people who sit and they're like, I can't do this. I'm not built for this.

And it might take a while. What I've noticed for myself is after, and you don't need to use this app. You can, I think that the waking up app with Sam Harris is also great. The introductory course specifically, I think you could also do TM. I did TM for a long time.

And it might take a while. What I've noticed for myself is after, and you don't need to use this app. You can, I think that the waking up app with Sam Harris is also great. The introductory course specifically, I think you could also do TM. I did TM for a long time.

Yeah. And that's one observation. I would say as it relates to this audience, Seth Godin, and I'm paraphrasing here, he is very wise. Mm-hmm. and leads a very unorthodox life that he's crafted through deep thinking and is a very present husband and father. I really admire him a lot. And he has said something along the lines of money is a story, right?

Yeah. And that's one observation. I would say as it relates to this audience, Seth Godin, and I'm paraphrasing here, he is very wise. Mm-hmm. and leads a very unorthodox life that he's crafted through deep thinking and is a very present husband and father. I really admire him a lot. And he has said something along the lines of money is a story, right?

Past a certain point, money is a story that you tell yourself. So come up with a story that you can live with. I think that's really important.

Past a certain point, money is a story that you tell yourself. So come up with a story that you can live with. I think that's really important.

Money is and can be an abstraction of sorts. Be very hard to survive by eating your money, right? You're using it in exchange for other things. And so some people want success. Okay, what is that? And so if you don't like define that very carefully for yourself, what does success mean? then you're going to wander in a lot of unproductive directions. This is true with power.

Money is and can be an abstraction of sorts. Be very hard to survive by eating your money, right? You're using it in exchange for other things. And so some people want success. Okay, what is that? And so if you don't like define that very carefully for yourself, what does success mean? then you're going to wander in a lot of unproductive directions. This is true with power.

I know I just want to be powerful. I want to be free. Okay, what does free mean? So I think definition of terms is really important. And with money, When we define it, it's really telling the story of what money means to you, what it signifies, what it enables or disables. What is the story you're telling yourself?

I know I just want to be powerful. I want to be free. Okay, what does free mean? So I think definition of terms is really important. And with money, When we define it, it's really telling the story of what money means to you, what it signifies, what it enables or disables. What is the story you're telling yourself?

So for instance, when I was younger, I didn't grow up, my family didn't have a lot of money. So the story that I heard effectively, because we were operating from a really scarce mindset because we didn't have money. And it was never said this directly, but like, if you have money, all your problems go away, right? It's like, wouldn't it be nice if we had money?

So for instance, when I was younger, I didn't grow up, my family didn't have a lot of money. So the story that I heard effectively, because we were operating from a really scarce mindset because we didn't have money. And it was never said this directly, but like, if you have money, all your problems go away, right? It's like, wouldn't it be nice if we had money?

How you relate to it will determine whether you feel like you have enough or not enough, will determine whether you feel successful or not successful, how much of a role it plays in your life overall compared to other things, family, personal interests, friendships. Where does money fit into the lineup?

How you relate to it will determine whether you feel like you have enough or not enough, will determine whether you feel successful or not successful, how much of a role it plays in your life overall compared to other things, family, personal interests, friendships. Where does money fit into the lineup?

All of these, I think, are worthwhile questions to ask oneself because I know and you also have met some of these people, people who have hundreds of millions of dollars or billions of dollars who feel like they just need to hit this slightly larger number and then they'll know everything can be okay. Yes. which is patently absurd, right?

All of these, I think, are worthwhile questions to ask oneself because I know and you also have met some of these people, people who have hundreds of millions of dollars or billions of dollars who feel like they just need to hit this slightly larger number and then they'll know everything can be okay. Yes. which is patently absurd, right?

Hold on. I'm not saying the feminine broadly. Just hear me out here. These are not mutually exclusive. This can apply to men just as equally, right? If they don't have the ability to long-term plan and focus on something for extended periods of time, then very frequently they also cannot break down complex, think through complex problems.

Right? Whether that's like how to school your kids, vaccination, no vaccination, right? These are very complex problems that require critical thinking and cross-examining your own thinking.

That's hard, right? But like, God forbid something happens to me and I have kids, I want to have full confidence that my partner is resourceful and will figure shit out, right? There are a lot of amazing people in the world. You have to have a way of narrowing it down. If somebody doesn't have a LinkedIn, but they have an Instagram, I think that's often a problem.

If I look on their LinkedIn and it's, oh, every job has been six to 12 months, probably not for me.

You know what I mean though?

I want to know that someone has been able to handle hard things.

Also why skiing is interesting. Stick with it-ness. Yeah. Have you gone to, as an example, this is going to seem maybe unreasonable, but have you done something reasonably hard? Have you had a job and stuck with it for at least a handful of years or started your own company and built it for a handful of years? Have you done something hard that requires resilience and dealing with setbacks? If not,

I hate to say it, but that's life, right? And if you're in a job and you aren't resilient, you can hop to another job hoping it'll be easier or better and then hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop. If you're in a relationship, what are you going to do? It ends up turning into a big mess. So I really want someone who's done something Stressful. I can have confidence that they can handle stress.

So I do that for three to five minutes and then I might hop into, I have an endless pool machine. So it creates a current in your swimming pool so that you can swim against it. So you can do the equivalent of open water swimming. Do that for literally five to 10 minutes to get the heart pumping. And then that's it. That's the morning. And there might be cases if I'm feeling like,

I would sum it up with a woman who doesn't have problems with these terms, feminine and masculine, number one, who recognizes the strengths in both, but who probably is pretty far out on the nurturing, family-oriented side. Someone for whom that is not an inner conflict. They know they want kids and family. Yes. That is uncomplicated. Super clear. Yeah. Super clear. Not, I don't know.

Maybe I'm not sure. None of that. I don't want to deal with that. I don't have time for that right now. And I'm clear on what I want. So I want someone who's clear that they want the same thing. Active, fit, outdoorsy, skiing, snowboarding, ideal. Curious, reads a lot, good at critical thinking, and has done hard stuff over extended periods of time.

Yeah, let's see. I'll create a URL.

Because otherwise, like Instagram or DM or whatever, it's just impossible.

Pioneering new ways. I'll create a URL. Tim.blog. That's my website. Tim.blog.com.

Yeah, I'll create a page for it because the social media stuff is going to be impossible.

I'm in the market. And I'll add one more thing, which is like my ex-girlfriends over the last 10, 12 years, they all ended on good terms. Like I'm in good relationships with those people. They're amazing. And they're amazing women. Like they're all amazing in their own way. I think I'm a pretty good boyfriend. I gotta be honest. So not perfect. I got my own stuff.

We all have our own stuff, but I'm ready for the next chapter.

You can find my ex-girlfriend references on LinkedIn.

I can have fun in other ways.

Okay.

Okay. You ready?

Oh, if the answer is yes. If the answer is yes. Oh, yeah, for sure. You did? Oh, yeah, of course. To start my first company out of college.

Okay, yes, if I put a finger down.

No, I usually pay for it.

If I realize that it's a setup for, oh, I have this book I want to advise on a startup or something, it's some bullshit, then sometimes I'll split. Usually at this point in my life, it's just too much brain damage to deal with like...

the risk of some woman going on social media and going on some rampage but like i went on a date with tim ferris and here's what happened yeah you made me pay for half the check or whatever but earlier sure yeah split the check okay if it's just a setup if i've been if someone's been deceptive then you can pay for half the meal okay fair yeah never have i ever invested in crypto

I have invested in crypto.

No. I've done well in crypto, but I think most of it is a shell game. I'm just not convinced that the theses upon which I based those investments make any sense now.

People view it as an inflation hedge, and it's... inversely correlated. I'm like, it doesn't seem to be the case. It seems to be highly liquid and it just like more or less tracks S&P 500. So do I want coming back to our correlated uncorrelated? I'm like, eh, like I've done very well. I'm very grateful for my friends who got me into some of this crypto stuff.

I did. Yeah. But would I invest in it now? Probably not.

I played lottery.

Yeah, but I view it as entertainment. It's like to buy lottery tickets for everybody in my family if I don't see them as often as I would like. And it's like, hey, guys, all right, we have this crazy Powerball. Now we get to sit down and watch and see what happens.

like I'm caught up in the whirlwind. If I might be a little distracted or I'm like, what am I doing today? I feel like a thousand things are coming at me from a thousand directions. Then I might use a journaling tool, like the five minute journal or something like that, just to winnow everything down to two or three things that

No, I've never done that.

invested in a company that went bankrupt i've invested in dozens of companies that have gone bust like what percent of your investment the angel investing 70 to 80 percent for sure you invest really early so that's what you expect to happen yeah i don't think i've invested in any other companies if we're talking about mature companies i don't think i've invested in any that have gone bankrupt but on the angel side tons i've had multiple companies go bankrupt in the last two weeks

Yeah, it's part of the game.

Put it back up. Put it back up. Okay.

Yes, I've done that. Which ones? A lot. Twitter, Facebook, Alibaba. If we're including advising, Shopify, Uber, Duolingo. I think Blue Bottle Coffee even. Next door, pretty sure. There's got to be another like 10 or probably 10 more.

Yeah. Well, I was pre-IPO in all of them and I was very early in a bunch of them. Like I was the first advisor to Shopify, first of I think three advisors to Uber, first round Duolingo, first advisor to Clear. That's another one that would be a... Oh, they're huge. All of those were very early.

are critical and plus having a very easy gratitude practice, et cetera, helps you to just take a little bit of pressure out of the system in the morning. It's literally five minutes and that's it. So how does that change with a partner? Not at all. If my partner can't put up with that, then we're probably not a good match, I would say.

It's the same.

It's not that much time. And I would say it's really not that much time. And I have friends who preserve their routine even with multiple kids. And guess what? They wake up an hour earlier. BFD. Big fucking deal. Put on your big girl pants and it's fine.

You don't have to carve out that time. It's fine. And evening routine... is for instance i mean for me tonight like i'm going to go to this will sound familiar but i'm going to go to a banya so russian bathhouse hot cold hot cold i'm not going to give exact specifics but do not reveal your i will have had some weird encounters it's okay we're not i've had some weird encounters in bathhouses

Yeah, that's the pull quote. That is the clickbaity headline. So that will be an hour, hour and a half. It doesn't take very long. So I'm going in specifically for the hot, cold, hot, cold, hot, cold. I will because I've only done one meditation. I'll meditate in the first hot session that I do probably. Okay.

10 minutes and but that's an hour and then i will have dinner after that and then in terms of wind down at night i'll generally do a little bit of stretching maybe some foam rolling and then read in bed not on my phone no backlit screens so kindle or hard copy you're so

No, never. I will watch Netflix, but I keep devices, I really try to keep devices out of bed, out of the bedroom.

Because all it takes, at least for me, I don't know about other people, You have one notification pop up about something work related.

And you're screwed.

You're screwed before you know it. Now you're in problem solving mode and you're not going to get out or you get sucked into social media, which is why I have no social media apps on my phone.

Good for you.

Yeah. I forced myself to do it on desktop if I'm going to use it at all, which saves a lot of time on a few levels. Number one, you can't use it compulsively, but number two, I don't know if your friends are different from my friends, but, many of the group chats that I'm in are 90% people sending stupid memes and videos to one another. I can't look at those because the platforms throttle

what you can see without installing the app they want to capture you so i only get to see one-tenth of what gets sent to me so it's all the stupid memes i send you are just going into the ether into the ether yeah and i can always catch up on laptop if i really want to catch up or sometimes i will but then it's okay great now you're just doing it all at once so you knock it out in like half hour instead of interrupting your day 40 times

Yeah, exactly.

No date tonight.

I am single.

I think modern dating is a pretty strange thing. For me, it can be bizarre. But I'm not going to say it or complain. I think being single can be fun. I do not have that as my long-term strategy. I got out of a very long relationship two and a half years ago.

and thought that was going to go to kids ended up not working out still actually very close to my ex not tethered she's married now so it's not like i'm just holding off with some hope that we'll get back together. That's not the situation, but on very good terms, I might actually have dinner with her tonight, believe it or not.

And just to catch up, I haven't seen her in a long time, but the hope and plan is building a family. And last I checked, I guess it doesn't technically require a partner, but I would like to do it with a partner.

Yeah. For me, I want that whole adventure. So that's the plan.

Oh yeah, shocker. And I think we should be suspicious of what we want. That's actually from Rumi in the sense that we should cross-examine what we want because it may not actually be what we need. But to the best I can tell, I think there are a few things that mesh well with me. Smart, of course. Loves reading. Athletic. I like athletic. So you can do sports together. Yeah, athletic.

Not just athletic, but outdoorsy. So if they only do CrossFit, but they never go hiking or have no interest in it.

Well, this is why I said or have interest in. Right. But I think ultimately I would like to spend a lot of the year around mountains, rivers, lakes. And I love skiing. So skiing is if someone skis or snowboards, that's a proxy, a substitute. It's one criterion that actually checks off a bunch of other boxes.

If they take it seriously. Not just, I liked skiing when I did it three times. Wait, how seriously do you want them to take skiing? No, they don't need to be a professional. But if someone's pretty good at skiing, let's just say, and this isn't a pass-fail thing, they just have to enjoy skiing. But if they take it seriously enough... that they make time, let's just say, each year to go skiing.

What does that mean? It means they like being outdoors by default. It means they're willing to prioritize that and block out time for it.

Dedicate themselves. They probably are pretty good at sort of risk assessment and thinking about that if they do backcountry stuff and so on. it checks a lot of boxes actually right so i'm not saying someone has to ski but i would say in a lot of the dates i've had so far it predicts really accurately a bunch of other things uh I would like someone who has a job or has some identity of their own.

Because if not, there are a few issues with the if not. I'm big on communication. I owe my ex actually a huge set of gratitude for that because she was a very good communicator, highly empathic. That's one of her strengths.

superpowers and so we did a lot of workshops and read a lot of books and it hugely benefited me just in terms of being able to communicate emotions which my family didn't really do ever and ask what you want and draw boundaries and Do repair, by the way, super important. Oh, that's a big one. There's going to be conflict no matter what. Yeah.

But I would say smart, sporty, nice ass is always great.

Yeah, like meat on the bones.

Oh, okay, Tim.

Not Kim K badonkadonk necessarily, but athletic, right?

I want somebody who enjoys moving their body and likes to be athletic, which ends up probably being closer to... to name Mila Jovovich or the actress in Fifth Element than to Kim K, right? But the point is I need to look forward to having conversations with this person because long-term relationships are basically one long conversation.

they sure are right and every you get to the point where like you start repeating your stories could you forget that you told the story to each other so for that they need to be deeply curious right and i i need to not just respect them but admire something about them like i need to admire them yeah and am i going to want to if we sit at a table and let's just say they're understated

am I going to want to brag on their behalf about something? That is a huge positive indicator. And if that's the case, if the things I just mentioned are true, which I don't think is that much, I don't think it's unreasonable to look for, like the stuff I just mentioned. if I could wave magic wand like three years from now, got a bun in the oven or one little kid, that'd be great.

I think that for instance, I was in my last relationship five and a half years. I think that was too long to go without a real phase shift towards like marriage or having kids. I don't think those need to go together by the way. Um,

marriage and kids you think you can split you don't want to be married to one person kids preferably not but i do think that people trip themselves up i certainly have tripped myself up thinking about like the contract with the state aspect of marriage it can add a really thorny difficult dimension

And I know people who have also gotten married and just have the process of going through the pre-nup basically killed all the magic. I've seen that multiple times. It was like a pre-marriage divorce.

Oh, yeah, of course.

Of course. If I were to get married, I think it's irresponsible not to. That's my perspective. Yeah. Right. And because it's here's the thing. As someone who's in the public, as someone who's done well and that's also in the public, I don't want to question the motives of the person I'm with.