Thomas Zimmer

very much emblematic of the trajectory of these kinds of people who very much talked about themselves as small government conservatives to people who now whatever you want to call him now that's not what he's talking about now he now wants to mobilize government and use of the coercive powers of government to impose a certain vision on american society these are the same kinds of circles who when barack obama was thinking about using an executive order called him a tyrant and now

I mean, this guy, he himself has, will gladly tell you that he has drafted dozens, maybe hundreds of executive orders. So there's a trajectory there. And I think that is really worth getting into and sort of trying to understand what's going on there.

I mean, this guy, he himself has, will gladly tell you that he has drafted dozens, maybe hundreds of executive orders. So there's a trajectory there. And I think that is really worth getting into and sort of trying to understand what's going on there.

I mean, this guy, he himself has, will gladly tell you that he has drafted dozens, maybe hundreds of executive orders. So there's a trajectory there. And I think that is really worth getting into and sort of trying to understand what's going on there.

Yeah, I think what's interesting is that he himself calls it radical constitutionalism. That's what he wants. That's what he says what is needed now. And it's really quite interesting how someone like Russell Vogt, he will not even talk about himself and his own political project in the idiom of conservatism anymore. These people will tell you conservatism is no longer enough.

Yeah, I think what's interesting is that he himself calls it radical constitutionalism. That's what he wants. That's what he says what is needed now. And it's really quite interesting how someone like Russell Vogt, he will not even talk about himself and his own political project in the idiom of conservatism anymore. These people will tell you conservatism is no longer enough.

Yeah, I think what's interesting is that he himself calls it radical constitutionalism. That's what he wants. That's what he says what is needed now. And it's really quite interesting how someone like Russell Vogt, he will not even talk about himself and his own political project in the idiom of conservatism anymore. These people will tell you conservatism is no longer enough.

That is sort of the rallying cry of these kinds of circles. So he calls it what is now needed as radical constitutionalism because he says there is just nothing left to conserve. So he would probably tell you, okay, so 20 years ago, there's sort of traditional small government conservatism. That's what was needed if you were a constitutional conservative.

That is sort of the rallying cry of these kinds of circles. So he calls it what is now needed as radical constitutionalism because he says there is just nothing left to conserve. So he would probably tell you, okay, so 20 years ago, there's sort of traditional small government conservatism. That's what was needed if you were a constitutional conservative.

That is sort of the rallying cry of these kinds of circles. So he calls it what is now needed as radical constitutionalism because he says there is just nothing left to conserve. So he would probably tell you, okay, so 20 years ago, there's sort of traditional small government conservatism. That's what was needed if you were a constitutional conservative.

But because in their understanding, the left, the progressives, the socialists, honestly, he uses all those terms interchangeably. It's all kind of the same. They have, in this understanding, completely taken over. They've taken over government. They've taken over all the major institutions of American life. They are in charge. And so now there is nothing left to conserve.

But because in their understanding, the left, the progressives, the socialists, honestly, he uses all those terms interchangeably. It's all kind of the same. They have, in this understanding, completely taken over. They've taken over government. They've taken over all the major institutions of American life. They are in charge. And so now there is nothing left to conserve.

But because in their understanding, the left, the progressives, the socialists, honestly, he uses all those terms interchangeably. It's all kind of the same. They have, in this understanding, completely taken over. They've taken over government. They've taken over all the major institutions of American life. They are in charge. And so now there is nothing left to conserve.

So this kind of a conservatism of limits, a conservatism of preserving and conserving, that's just not good enough anymore. What you need now is counter-revolution data. talk about this constantly. They call themselves counter-revolutionaries, right? So again, not at all in the idiom of conservatism.

So this kind of a conservatism of limits, a conservatism of preserving and conserving, that's just not good enough anymore. What you need now is counter-revolution data. talk about this constantly. They call themselves counter-revolutionaries, right? So again, not at all in the idiom of conservatism.

So this kind of a conservatism of limits, a conservatism of preserving and conserving, that's just not good enough anymore. What you need now is counter-revolution data. talk about this constantly. They call themselves counter-revolutionaries, right? So again, not at all in the idiom of conservatism.

So what he will say is basically, look, what we did 20 years ago was the right thing to do at that point, but because this leftist revolution has already happened and it has succeeded, now what we're left with Nothing short of a proper counter-revolution will now suffice to save the nation and save real America and whatever they talk about.

So what he will say is basically, look, what we did 20 years ago was the right thing to do at that point, but because this leftist revolution has already happened and it has succeeded, now what we're left with Nothing short of a proper counter-revolution will now suffice to save the nation and save real America and whatever they talk about.

So what he will say is basically, look, what we did 20 years ago was the right thing to do at that point, but because this leftist revolution has already happened and it has succeeded, now what we're left with Nothing short of a proper counter-revolution will now suffice to save the nation and save real America and whatever they talk about.

And I think that is how they make sense of their own trajectory and how they would tell you this is not just hypocrisy or it's not just there is no tension. It's just a reaction to the fact that the leftist revolution has succeeded. And so now they have adapted to that.