Terry Glavin

You know, John Ralston Saul, the philosopher, he wrote this concept of Canada as a postmodern state. And it was kind of a nuanced, interesting philosophy, whatever. And I remember talking to Jerry. I said, Trudeau kind of got that wrong. I mean, wasn't he kind of channeling John Ralston's soul? He said, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He meant it, post-national. And so here's the question.

Well, if you hang around with the Canada-China Business Council long enough— If you enthusiastically support, for instance, the largest overseas acquisition in the history of the People's Republic of China, the, you know, Sinox acquisition of Nexen. Flesh that out a little bit.

Well, if you hang around with the Canada-China Business Council long enough— If you enthusiastically support, for instance, the largest overseas acquisition in the history of the People's Republic of China, the, you know, Sinox acquisition of Nexen. Flesh that out a little bit.

Well, if you hang around with the Canada-China Business Council long enough— If you enthusiastically support, for instance, the largest overseas acquisition in the history of the People's Republic of China, the, you know, Sinox acquisition of Nexen. Flesh that out a little bit.

Well, yeah, it was at a time when, just before Justin Trudeau was elected, when the Chinese Communist Party was buying up all the major, really key strategic sort of spigot points in the oil patch in Alberta. And the Harper government, the cabinet, was terribly divided about this.

Well, yeah, it was at a time when, just before Justin Trudeau was elected, when the Chinese Communist Party was buying up all the major, really key strategic sort of spigot points in the oil patch in Alberta. And the Harper government, the cabinet, was terribly divided about this.

Well, yeah, it was at a time when, just before Justin Trudeau was elected, when the Chinese Communist Party was buying up all the major, really key strategic sort of spigot points in the oil patch in Alberta. And the Harper government, the cabinet, was terribly divided about this.

and um eventually the good guys the good guys won the people i considered the good guys when harper said okay that's it you know sure it's a lot of money they're offering us twice the share value for every purchase they're making but no we do not want canada's energy sector to be owned by the organization department of the politburo probably better than that than stephen will bow

and um eventually the good guys the good guys won the people i considered the good guys when harper said okay that's it you know sure it's a lot of money they're offering us twice the share value for every purchase they're making but no we do not want canada's energy sector to be owned by the organization department of the politburo probably better than that than stephen will bow

and um eventually the good guys the good guys won the people i considered the good guys when harper said okay that's it you know sure it's a lot of money they're offering us twice the share value for every purchase they're making but no we do not want canada's energy sector to be owned by the organization department of the politburo probably better than that than stephen will bow

Oh, yeah, the post-national stuff. This is really key. How do you do national security in a post-national state? What does it even mean? You see, I don't think they really thought this through. What are Canada's national interests if we're a post-national country?

Oh, yeah, the post-national stuff. This is really key. How do you do national security in a post-national state? What does it even mean? You see, I don't think they really thought this through. What are Canada's national interests if we're a post-national country?

Oh, yeah, the post-national stuff. This is really key. How do you do national security in a post-national state? What does it even mean? You see, I don't think they really thought this through. What are Canada's national interests if we're a post-national country?

And as I say, I don't know that I want to describe it as an ideology. It's kind of like an ideational package. This notion that Canada is this racist, colonial, settler state that has engaged in genocide after genocide against its indigenous peoples. And we're the liberals, and we're the nice ones. And so that's essentially what Trudeau was all about.

And as I say, I don't know that I want to describe it as an ideology. It's kind of like an ideational package. This notion that Canada is this racist, colonial, settler state that has engaged in genocide after genocide against its indigenous peoples. And we're the liberals, and we're the nice ones. And so that's essentially what Trudeau was all about.

And as I say, I don't know that I want to describe it as an ideology. It's kind of like an ideational package. This notion that Canada is this racist, colonial, settler state that has engaged in genocide after genocide against its indigenous peoples. And we're the liberals, and we're the nice ones. And so that's essentially what Trudeau was all about.

And I think, you know, there's an adage that what starts with the Jews doesn't end with the Jews.

And I think, you know, there's an adage that what starts with the Jews doesn't end with the Jews.

And I think, you know, there's an adage that what starts with the Jews doesn't end with the Jews.

That's very true. And I don't want to dispute that, and I don't want what I'm about to say as a contradiction of that. Mm-hmm.