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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
So it feels like eons ago.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
You know, those three years feel like a long time ago now.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
But I think it's staggering to see how much both the technology is making progress.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
We've made progress as a company.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
And I think it's a very dynamic moment in the industry.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
I think our models are at the frontier in some areas.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
And there are areas where we are behind the frontier.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
And so it's a combination.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
I think if you look at...
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
You know, overall capabilities, including text, multimodality, voice, or audio, reasoning in general, overall intelligence, I think we are very capable.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
When it comes to agentic coding with tool use and instruction following, long horizon tasks, I think we are a bit behind at this moment.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
but we are hard at work and the space is so dynamic.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
All of the leading labs have their own pre-training cycles.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
So you have these cadences and they may not exactly match up.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
I think the moment is intense enough that if you're slightly off, you know,
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
Three months ago, people were like, we are ahead and no one could catch up with us.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
And then now the conversation flips, but that's part of the territory of being at the frontier.
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
I think we are the only large company which is actually at that frontier, right?
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
So one way to think about it is there are, in this moment,
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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update
There are a couple of startups which have made extraordinary progress.