Sophie Duker
Appearances
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I feel like maybe he was pro. Because I feel like coffee as a beverage is kind of like God Squad. It's very like, I think it gives you fervour, more diligent as well. And I think as like an alternative to maybe like alcohol, it feels maybe it's like a new, a relatively new thing in Europe that could give people vim and vigour.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Hey, I'm actually fuming because I heard that you tried to get Sabrina Carpenter for this episode. Yeah.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I feel like Clooney could really... Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I was busy watching the Grammys. So actually.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I restrict my coffee intake because I like the smell of coffee. Right. And I like it as a sort of cultural concept. It makes me feel like I want to die.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I can't think of a genuine health benefit. I mean, it does help digestion in that it makes me feel like I'm going to crap my pants. And it does help headaches and sore eyes in the sense that it aids me in achieving those. I'm not anti-coffee. I do like it, but I think it makes stuff taste good.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
That is quite, yeah. It feels like a very compatible, I was going to say drug, but I'm not sure it is.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
A very compatible stimulant.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
But I do, I am, I'm sort of like, inoculising, that's not a word. I'm sort of building up my tolerance to coffee. And sometimes people don't know that it causes such reaction on me. So if I'm feeling chaotic, I will occasionally order coffee. No one else knows that it's a big moment, but it is like, it's terrible. Having a coffee is really like opening a vortex into another reality for me.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Oh, Newton and Halley. I mean, yeah, I'm thinking of like comets and gravity. I just want it to be like a sort of thumb war, but I feel like it's probably got more important than that.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Frog is the classic. Maybe it's a, like a, I'm going to go with... A fish? No, that's boring. Bigger. A seal. Bigger. Oh my God, they're dissecting a whale. Nearly. Jonathan? Dolphin. A dolphin!
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Wow. Would you go? I would absolutely go. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. How do they transport the dolphin?
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
No. Yeah, no, I do know who Voltaire is.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Oh, I think that he drank... Let's say six.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
A lot of coffee. That is a lot of coffee.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Is that how much? Oh yeah, you know because you're the expert. I'm like, what?
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I feel like maybe the late 1900s?
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
No, the late 19th century.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. 1880 is what came into my head. It's too late, isn't it? It is quite late, yeah. I think we can go earlier than that.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
The early 17th century? Yeah.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
You've got to get the balance right.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I feel like it has... ..an item came to mind, which was... It's not appropriate for the... Is that not a Radio 4 joke? It's not a Radio 4 joke, but I feel like I was thinking of, like, a humming, like, about the noise that grinding would... I see. Yeah, and I was also thinking about how sleepy you get sometimes after certain activities, so I think it would be a good dual function.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
In Seattle, it's going to be Starbucks.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Oh, that's very wholesome.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I'm being enchanted. I want to take some Joe back to the hive.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I think it feels like I want to be in on the party. I felt sort of maybe like a psychosomatic reaction to talking about coffee so long. Like I feel quite hyped up. Like it's not been a relaxing chat. Sorry. Because I think even hearing it, I'm like, maybe it's my associations with coffee have been mainly as a sort of wonder drug to finish an essay and less about the sort of salon culture.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Yeah, I think maybe like I'm trying to think about what the modern equivalent is or what the young upstart is. And I feel like it's probably either like bubble tea or creams milkshakes. And that's where that's the hotbed of political dissent today. Yeah.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
That was very, I mean, I like that there's like a sort of glimmer of hope or like a kind of like retaken of the coffee narrative from, yeah, those producer countries just sort of being entirely beholden to the whims of the global north. So, yeah, I was just like, OK, I'm cancelling the beans. The beans are cancelled.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
But I think it's quite cool and it's quite cool to see like a kind of renaissance in cultural coffee consumption and how that fits into different places.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I am feeling the pressure, but I believe in the bean.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Oh, it was... My instinct is to say Yemen.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Because he thought that they were sites of licentiousness and bad talk. Absolutely well done.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Pope Clement allegedly called coffee delicious. The devil's drink is delicious.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
They cut up a dolphin. They did. For science, man. For science. Hashtag free the willy. It's not. Well, he really is not a dolphin. It doesn't work. But I said it. Flipper. Flipper.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
It stops miscarriages.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
And it also aids your digestion.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I feel like this was Mr. King, one of the Mr. Kings, and he put a grinder... No, maybe not Walter King, put a grinder in his rifle.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
It did actually sell ground coffee. It sold and it got people's names right. But then it changed.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Oh, do I get any clues on the animal? Sure. Is it a big animal? No, medium sized. OK, I feel from context clues of being in this room earlier, you said goats.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
And I feel it might have been a goat.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Okay, so there's like a goat. He's just a guy, but he's also a goat. And he lives on a farm. There's a farmer who's called Guy. He has a goat. And then he realizes that his goat is acting like really unconventionally. It's an old goat, but he's acting more like a kid, you know? He's got a spring in his step. He's fighting trolls. He's got loads of energy. And he's like...
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Thank you so much. We go deep into the fairy tale lore. And he's like, what's going on? My goat's mad. My goat's been cursed by a witch. Yeah, is it like unconventional goat behaviour? I think that's pretty good.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I love that like animals getting intoxicated is our gateway into like medicine. Because I think there is a legend about the discovery of palm wine. And it's because that's why I asked if it was a big animal, because apparently elephants would be like sort of rutting at the trees and getting pissed. And you just have some really intense goats having like really deep conversations.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I think it's interesting. I think maybe I sort of think it leads to licentiousness. I think people mainly become more annoying when they're... On coffee.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
Rather than sort of like more like inspiring like libertine tendencies. I think maybe he thought it made people like distracted and less sort of easy to... Control. Yeah, I think that's usually why substances are banned.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
I feel like it doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't do good stuff for me. But I took it like not medicinally, but functionally to like the medicine to get you through your essay crisis.
You're Dead to Me
History of Coffee: from devil’s brew to our favourite beverage
It comes from a tiny wooden boy who used to lie all the time. Pretty sure that's not where it comes from. Cappuccino. I, yeah, I can't, no, I'm going to stick with lying puppet boy. Strong guess. I also think that's, I wish I was like a grime MC or something because cappuccino is the best thing I've ever said. What's the, what's the like, what's the root?