Sophie Duker

Yeah.

Yeah.

We didn't call Celia the bob-haired bandit. We called Celia Grandma.

We didn't call Celia the bob-haired bandit. We called Celia Grandma.

I feel like maybe he was pro. Because I feel like coffee as a beverage is kind of like God Squad. It's very like, I think it gives you fervour, more diligent as well. And I think as like an alternative to maybe like alcohol, it feels maybe it's like a new, a relatively new thing in Europe that could give people vim and vigour.

I feel like maybe he was pro. Because I feel like coffee as a beverage is kind of like God Squad. It's very like, I think it gives you fervour, more diligent as well. And I think as like an alternative to maybe like alcohol, it feels maybe it's like a new, a relatively new thing in Europe that could give people vim and vigour.

Hey, I'm actually fuming because I heard that you tried to get Sabrina Carpenter for this episode. Yeah.

Hey, I'm actually fuming because I heard that you tried to get Sabrina Carpenter for this episode. Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

I feel like Clooney could really... Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

I feel like Clooney could really... Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

I was busy watching the Grammys. So actually.

I was busy watching the Grammys. So actually.

I restrict my coffee intake because I like the smell of coffee. Right. And I like it as a sort of cultural concept. It makes me feel like I want to die.

I restrict my coffee intake because I like the smell of coffee. Right. And I like it as a sort of cultural concept. It makes me feel like I want to die.

Wow.

Wow.

I can't think of a genuine health benefit. I mean, it does help digestion in that it makes me feel like I'm going to crap my pants. And it does help headaches and sore eyes in the sense that it aids me in achieving those. I'm not anti-coffee. I do like it, but I think it makes stuff taste good.

I can't think of a genuine health benefit. I mean, it does help digestion in that it makes me feel like I'm going to crap my pants. And it does help headaches and sore eyes in the sense that it aids me in achieving those. I'm not anti-coffee. I do like it, but I think it makes stuff taste good.

That is quite, yeah. It feels like a very compatible, I was going to say drug, but I'm not sure it is.

That is quite, yeah. It feels like a very compatible, I was going to say drug, but I'm not sure it is.

A very compatible stimulant.

A very compatible stimulant.

But I do, I am, I'm sort of like, inoculising, that's not a word. I'm sort of building up my tolerance to coffee. And sometimes people don't know that it causes such reaction on me. So if I'm feeling chaotic, I will occasionally order coffee. No one else knows that it's a big moment, but it is like, it's terrible. Having a coffee is really like opening a vortex into another reality for me.

But I do, I am, I'm sort of like, inoculising, that's not a word. I'm sort of building up my tolerance to coffee. And sometimes people don't know that it causes such reaction on me. So if I'm feeling chaotic, I will occasionally order coffee. No one else knows that it's a big moment, but it is like, it's terrible. Having a coffee is really like opening a vortex into another reality for me.

Oh, Newton and Halley. I mean, yeah, I'm thinking of like comets and gravity. I just want it to be like a sort of thumb war, but I feel like it's probably got more important than that.

Oh, Newton and Halley. I mean, yeah, I'm thinking of like comets and gravity. I just want it to be like a sort of thumb war, but I feel like it's probably got more important than that.

Frog is the classic. Maybe it's a, like a, I'm going to go with... A fish? No, that's boring. Bigger. A seal. Bigger. Oh my God, they're dissecting a whale. Nearly. Jonathan? Dolphin. A dolphin!

Frog is the classic. Maybe it's a, like a, I'm going to go with... A fish? No, that's boring. Bigger. A seal. Bigger. Oh my God, they're dissecting a whale. Nearly. Jonathan? Dolphin. A dolphin!

Wow. Would you go? I would absolutely go. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. How do they transport the dolphin?

Wow. Would you go? I would absolutely go. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. How do they transport the dolphin?

No. Yeah, no, I do know who Voltaire is.

No. Yeah, no, I do know who Voltaire is.

Oh, I think that he drank... Let's say six.

Oh, I think that he drank... Let's say six.

A lot of coffee. That is a lot of coffee.

A lot of coffee. That is a lot of coffee.

Is that how much? Oh yeah, you know because you're the expert. I'm like, what?

Is that how much? Oh yeah, you know because you're the expert. I'm like, what?

Are they sauces?

Are they sauces?

I feel like maybe the late 1900s?

I feel like maybe the late 1900s?

No, the late 19th century.

No, the late 19th century.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. 1880 is what came into my head. It's too late, isn't it? It is quite late, yeah. I think we can go earlier than that.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. 1880 is what came into my head. It's too late, isn't it? It is quite late, yeah. I think we can go earlier than that.

The early 17th century? Yeah.

The early 17th century? Yeah.

You've got to get the balance right.

You've got to get the balance right.

I feel like it has... ..an item came to mind, which was... It's not appropriate for the... Is that not a Radio 4 joke? It's not a Radio 4 joke, but I feel like I was thinking of, like, a humming, like, about the noise that grinding would... I see. Yeah, and I was also thinking about how sleepy you get sometimes after certain activities, so I think it would be a good dual function.

I feel like it has... ..an item came to mind, which was... It's not appropriate for the... Is that not a Radio 4 joke? It's not a Radio 4 joke, but I feel like I was thinking of, like, a humming, like, about the noise that grinding would... I see. Yeah, and I was also thinking about how sleepy you get sometimes after certain activities, so I think it would be a good dual function.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

In Seattle, it's going to be Starbucks.

In Seattle, it's going to be Starbucks.

Oh, that's very wholesome.

Oh, that's very wholesome.

I'm being enchanted. I want to take some Joe back to the hive.

I'm being enchanted. I want to take some Joe back to the hive.

I think it feels like I want to be in on the party. I felt sort of maybe like a psychosomatic reaction to talking about coffee so long. Like I feel quite hyped up. Like it's not been a relaxing chat. Sorry. Because I think even hearing it, I'm like, maybe it's my associations with coffee have been mainly as a sort of wonder drug to finish an essay and less about the sort of salon culture.

I think it feels like I want to be in on the party. I felt sort of maybe like a psychosomatic reaction to talking about coffee so long. Like I feel quite hyped up. Like it's not been a relaxing chat. Sorry. Because I think even hearing it, I'm like, maybe it's my associations with coffee have been mainly as a sort of wonder drug to finish an essay and less about the sort of salon culture.

Yeah, I think maybe like I'm trying to think about what the modern equivalent is or what the young upstart is. And I feel like it's probably either like bubble tea or creams milkshakes. And that's where that's the hotbed of political dissent today. Yeah.

Yeah, I think maybe like I'm trying to think about what the modern equivalent is or what the young upstart is. And I feel like it's probably either like bubble tea or creams milkshakes. And that's where that's the hotbed of political dissent today. Yeah.

That was very, I mean, I like that there's like a sort of glimmer of hope or like a kind of like retaken of the coffee narrative from, yeah, those producer countries just sort of being entirely beholden to the whims of the global north. So, yeah, I was just like, OK, I'm cancelling the beans. The beans are cancelled.

That was very, I mean, I like that there's like a sort of glimmer of hope or like a kind of like retaken of the coffee narrative from, yeah, those producer countries just sort of being entirely beholden to the whims of the global north. So, yeah, I was just like, OK, I'm cancelling the beans. The beans are cancelled.

But I think it's quite cool and it's quite cool to see like a kind of renaissance in cultural coffee consumption and how that fits into different places.

But I think it's quite cool and it's quite cool to see like a kind of renaissance in cultural coffee consumption and how that fits into different places.

I am feeling the pressure, but I believe in the bean.

I am feeling the pressure, but I believe in the bean.

Oh, it was... My instinct is to say Yemen.

Oh, it was... My instinct is to say Yemen.

Because he thought that they were sites of licentiousness and bad talk. Absolutely well done.

Because he thought that they were sites of licentiousness and bad talk. Absolutely well done.

Pope Clement allegedly called coffee delicious. The devil's drink is delicious.

Pope Clement allegedly called coffee delicious. The devil's drink is delicious.

Café au lait.

Café au lait.

They cut up a dolphin. They did. For science, man. For science. Hashtag free the willy. It's not. Well, he really is not a dolphin. It doesn't work. But I said it. Flipper. Flipper.

They cut up a dolphin. They did. For science, man. For science. Hashtag free the willy. It's not. Well, he really is not a dolphin. It doesn't work. But I said it. Flipper. Flipper.

It stops miscarriages.

It stops miscarriages.

And it also aids your digestion.

And it also aids your digestion.

I feel like this was Mr. King, one of the Mr. Kings, and he put a grinder... No, maybe not Walter King, put a grinder in his rifle.

I feel like this was Mr. King, one of the Mr. Kings, and he put a grinder... No, maybe not Walter King, put a grinder in his rifle.

It did actually sell ground coffee. It sold and it got people's names right. But then it changed.

It did actually sell ground coffee. It sold and it got people's names right. But then it changed.

Oh, do I get any clues on the animal? Sure. Is it a big animal? No, medium sized. OK, I feel from context clues of being in this room earlier, you said goats.

Oh, do I get any clues on the animal? Sure. Is it a big animal? No, medium sized. OK, I feel from context clues of being in this room earlier, you said goats.

And I feel it might have been a goat.

And I feel it might have been a goat.

Okay, so there's like a goat. He's just a guy, but he's also a goat. And he lives on a farm. There's a farmer who's called Guy. He has a goat. And then he realizes that his goat is acting like really unconventionally. It's an old goat, but he's acting more like a kid, you know? He's got a spring in his step. He's fighting trolls. He's got loads of energy. And he's like...

Okay, so there's like a goat. He's just a guy, but he's also a goat. And he lives on a farm. There's a farmer who's called Guy. He has a goat. And then he realizes that his goat is acting like really unconventionally. It's an old goat, but he's acting more like a kid, you know? He's got a spring in his step. He's fighting trolls. He's got loads of energy. And he's like...

Thank you so much. We go deep into the fairy tale lore. And he's like, what's going on? My goat's mad. My goat's been cursed by a witch. Yeah, is it like unconventional goat behaviour? I think that's pretty good.

Thank you so much. We go deep into the fairy tale lore. And he's like, what's going on? My goat's mad. My goat's been cursed by a witch. Yeah, is it like unconventional goat behaviour? I think that's pretty good.

I said that.

I said that.

I love that like animals getting intoxicated is our gateway into like medicine. Because I think there is a legend about the discovery of palm wine. And it's because that's why I asked if it was a big animal, because apparently elephants would be like sort of rutting at the trees and getting pissed. And you just have some really intense goats having like really deep conversations.

I love that like animals getting intoxicated is our gateway into like medicine. Because I think there is a legend about the discovery of palm wine. And it's because that's why I asked if it was a big animal, because apparently elephants would be like sort of rutting at the trees and getting pissed. And you just have some really intense goats having like really deep conversations.

I think it's interesting. I think maybe I sort of think it leads to licentiousness. I think people mainly become more annoying when they're... On coffee.

I think it's interesting. I think maybe I sort of think it leads to licentiousness. I think people mainly become more annoying when they're... On coffee.

Rather than sort of like more like inspiring like libertine tendencies. I think maybe he thought it made people like distracted and less sort of easy to... Control. Yeah, I think that's usually why substances are banned.

Rather than sort of like more like inspiring like libertine tendencies. I think maybe he thought it made people like distracted and less sort of easy to... Control. Yeah, I think that's usually why substances are banned.

I feel like it doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't do good stuff for me. But I took it like not medicinally, but functionally to like the medicine to get you through your essay crisis.

I feel like it doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't do good stuff for me. But I took it like not medicinally, but functionally to like the medicine to get you through your essay crisis.

It comes from a tiny wooden boy who used to lie all the time. Pretty sure that's not where it comes from. Cappuccino. I, yeah, I can't, no, I'm going to stick with lying puppet boy. Strong guess. I also think that's, I wish I was like a grime MC or something because cappuccino is the best thing I've ever said. What's the, what's the like, what's the root?

It comes from a tiny wooden boy who used to lie all the time. Pretty sure that's not where it comes from. Cappuccino. I, yeah, I can't, no, I'm going to stick with lying puppet boy. Strong guess. I also think that's, I wish I was like a grime MC or something because cappuccino is the best thing I've ever said. What's the, what's the like, what's the root?