Sierra
Appearances
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
I don't have a particular goal in mind. I'm renting right now. I'm probably want to buy a house at some point, but that still feels kind of far off. So I just want to grow my net worth.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
Not really. I'm open to just generally learning more.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
I guess my question would be, how do you choose which one?
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
Yeah, that makes sense.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
I don't think so.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
Okay, cool.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
I didn't know you could do that.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
Low liquidity means it's harder to turn into cash.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
I'm feeling good. I I feel like I have all the information I need about my options, but I'm not sure exactly how much to buy.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
OK, so you mentioned you'd tell me where I should go to look at treasury yields and also how to set up a treasury ladder.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
I've been investing for a couple of years now and I'm starting to see steady growth in my portfolio.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
I actually already have a public account. I just haven't looked at the bond stuff. So I'll check that out. Oh, amazing.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
Yeah, but that really bad day in the market the other day made my portfolio drop and that really freaked me out. I've heard you say on the show before that it's important to diversify, but I'm only invested in stocks right now. So everything that happened with that market dip is making me feel like I should really probably consider bonds more seriously and actually start diversifying.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
A little bit of both, but mostly funds.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
I have about $75,000 in my portfolio.
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Bonds 101: How to Add Stability (and Income!) to Your Portfolio
Girl. I know.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Hey, Dr. John. How are you?
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
I'm sitting in my car in the parking lot.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
No, it is cool. I'm at a Starbucks.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
am doing well i'm actually getting married in a couple of months gross and i want it yeah are you in love very exciting oh so much absolutely congratulations sierra tell me about who you're marrying so he's a really good guy we've been together for almost nine years what nine years Yeah, we met in high school, so we've been together for a while, but I think it's about time. I'm 24, and he's 26.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Yeah, we've been together since I was like 15.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
So I never lived on my own. I've been living with my parents for ever. I went to college. I commuted there, commuted back. So never really had the opportunity to live by myself. and now that the wedding's coming up in a couple months, it's really starting to hit me, I guess, that I'm, like, leaving them, and I'm just trying to process those feelings.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
It's, like, excitement and then sadness, and it keeps going back and forth, and I'm feeling a lot of different things, so I just need somebody to kind of talk me through that and figure out how to cope with all that change.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Yeah, I do. We have a really, really close relationship. And right now the situation has been like, I kind of go back and forth. So where I'm moving, our apartment's only like 25 minutes away from where my parents and my sister are going to be. So it's not like a giant jump. We're not moving states.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
It's just the fact that I'm not going to be able to like walk in the door every day and say, hey, how's everybody doing? And just like hang out with them all the time.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Yeah, I know. He's really great. He's a good person.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
We love each other a lot. We're basically really, we're very, very close.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
I guess the loneliness is definitely a big one. And I'm kind of like, I don't want to say I'm like an indecisive person, but I'm making a career jump. So I was on the path to go to law school a few years ago. I started working at a law firm as like their assistant. I realized I didn't want to do that anymore. And I decided I want to go to flight school.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
So I'm trying to do that right now while planning the wedding, while moving out and processing all these different feelings. So I think that probably plays into it a little bit. Maybe it's a bunch of stress.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Yeah. So right now I'm working on my private license. I want to do that first.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Oh, absolutely. We're there all the time.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
I think that's the problem is like I feel a little bit guilty getting upset over something like that.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
But I have to let myself be sad.
The Dr. John Delony Show
My Husband And I Are Happy . . . But Something’s Missing
Yeah, that's the weird thing is like I haven't felt that way before, so it keeps flipping back and forth.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Yeah. I wish I could go back five more weeks. Should I make this two episodes? I would just digitally edit out Andy. Andy's being just uncomfortable.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Tell us, please. Hello! Tell me, where are these voices coming from? Tell me!
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
You raw dog cereal?
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
I've heard a thing today.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
I think starters should throw 130 pitches. And no sex before marriage. 15 round heavyweight fights. Yeah, and whole milk.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
It's unbelievable. He's got three kids and a wife. He's like, I gotta follow this thing. I'll see you guys later.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Same. Complete same. Cruz has another Mission Impossible movie coming out. I heard this new Kugler movie has a chance.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Or had sex with a woman. He's 26 years old.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Fucking Bob Evans is like, yeah, Ali McGrath can do a movie with Steve McQueen. What could go wrong? They're going to be together for three months. She's going to meet him at the Doom Room. No big deal.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Wow. Okay.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
The tuba.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
I don't know. I just want to test it out. Yeah.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
They're like, hi, I'm Bob Gordon, US.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Like, what the fuck? There's a professional basketball league at 1945 to 77. Hey, Darren, has how many home runs?
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Why is it only about baseball? I mean, they're just super racist about baseball. Who is this?
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Right off the spaceship, yeah. Reggie Jackson has a candy bar?
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
I left World War II. Now I have a 58-year-old wife.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Because are you a scientist or a music producer?
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
If I need a music producer in 1977, guys, I'm getting Brian Eno.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Jay Williams. Thank you. New debut.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
I don't know.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
It's the worst porn search I've ever heard. Dinosaurs and knights in armor. They don't knock it until you try it.
The Rewatchables
‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
Were you a space guy?
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Camping?
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Does he fly private?
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
If he hears that I want to go, if you tell me to go, I'll go.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
You have to wear it and you look amazing in it. I bought you something that I enjoy.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Don't do it. Residuals, who cares? AI, take my face.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Exactly.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
I'm like these ones. I'm freaking out.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
It's like, what?
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
We can hear you. Are you watching Bev Hills? Yes.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
I really like this.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Charter. Charter. Oh, I didn't think about that.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Oh my God, the show. I would love to come to the show.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Harvey's? No! I'm freaking out.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
I found out last night. It was very dramatic.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Imagine you with your best friend. I'm your best friend. No, you're not.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Well, I don't mean like... Oh, you mean like... I don't mean like... In that moment? In that moment. Oh, no.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
No, I'm not.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Yeah. Okay.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
period.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Now you're really alone.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Thank you.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Thanks, Hardy.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Love you. I'm freaking out.
The Viall Files
E898 - Traitors w/ Britney, Harvey Guillén Talks Bravo, LIB Reunion, Tamra’s Exit, & James Kennedy
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E864 - Justin Baldoni’s Lawsuit w/ Emily D Baker, Heather McMahan, Golden Globes, RHOSLC & Walmart Birkins
Oh, yeah. Did you buy it or rent it?
The Viall Files
E864 - Justin Baldoni’s Lawsuit w/ Emily D Baker, Heather McMahan, Golden Globes, RHOSLC & Walmart Birkins
I think it's interesting that everybody jumped right back to Justin's side as if it was like they just couldn't be wrong. But I think that like what Emily said about keeping an open mind is so important because like Natalie mentioned, like Blake could have been comfortable with Justin in the beginning. And that's why she invited him into her trailer when she was pumping.
The Viall Files
E864 - Justin Baldoni’s Lawsuit w/ Emily D Baker, Heather McMahan, Golden Globes, RHOSLC & Walmart Birkins
She could have been covered up at that moment.
The Viall Files
E864 - Justin Baldoni’s Lawsuit w/ Emily D Baker, Heather McMahan, Golden Globes, RHOSLC & Walmart Birkins
Also, knowing this will take years.
The Viall Files
E864 - Justin Baldoni’s Lawsuit w/ Emily D Baker, Heather McMahan, Golden Globes, RHOSLC & Walmart Birkins
Okay.
The Viall Files
E864 - Justin Baldoni’s Lawsuit w/ Emily D Baker, Heather McMahan, Golden Globes, RHOSLC & Walmart Birkins
It's not.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
Georgia.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
Yeah. Do you guys think that a lot of it had to do with Sutton? I think this reunion showed very clearly that Sutton wanted to prioritize her relationship with Kyle and Erica. Yeah. And even I mean, not Dorit, but a little bit even Dorit. And then Garcelle's like, OK, then I'll just like go fuck myself then. Yeah. You're not going to be my ally here.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
Like Crappy Lake, but with Jennifer Tilly and Kathy Hilton.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
And Mary Crosby. Oh, my God. And Mary Crosby, yes. And they just get, like, lost and forget that they're on a show. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
Jennifer Tilly's saying she wished she slept with more above-the-line talent, but she only dated character actors and squishy comedians.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
She was on MTV.
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E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
Or do we do the gator and the tail? Rose and thorn's a little bachelory.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
Oh, I said in Florida we do the gator and the tail, but you have to tear those apart so it gets a little dark down there.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
I'm dead serious.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
Gator head and tail specifically. Ask anyone from Florida. All right.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
Oh, yeah. I mean, OK, so my peach is that on Friday I got to go to a Lakers game for free with my friends, which was super, super fun. But was it fun? Did you feel like? I did feel it was fun. OK. She had floor tickets. Oh, damn. She's rich as fuck. No. OK. My friend's boss got given tickets because of something that she did and then didn't want to go. So give it to my friend.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
And then we all went and it was really, really fun. We saw Luca. We saw Bronnie embarrass himself. It was made me laugh a lot. He like fumbled the ball. So LeBron dunk. So it's pretty great. And then my pit is that there was a frat party at my apartment. and I had to go to it. Ew. Why'd you have to go to it? Well, because I technically kind of co-host it.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
What was the peach and pit of my weekend or just like the past few days?
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
It was like all of the people that live at my apartment complex were like throwing a joint party. And then I was like, I'm not going to be involved in this, but I'll show up. That is so me coded to be like, oh my God, let's have a party.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
I did not. There are like four boys that live across from from us. And they were like, yeah, we're going to throw a huge like spring break rager. And I was like, OK. And then it ended up just being a joint like all of our garages kind of like face each other. And there's like a big back area. So a bunch of people were there.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
And then it was just like a true frat party and it was spring break themed. And I was like, well, I'm just going to dress like me when I go home for spring break. But I had like a little crop top on and shorts and I look at my friend and I go, am I straight passing? And then she laughed in my face and fell on the ground. Perfect. And I was like, gotcha.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
And then my boy roommate was like, maybe you could meet someone tonight. And I go, meet someone tonight? I said, I'm trying not to get hate-crimed tonight.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
That's my pet.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
And could you actually not come with me?
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
Nick's judging.
The Viall Files
E919 - The Valley, Katy Perry In Space, Aimee Lou vs Walton, RHOBH, Daniella Pineda & Elizabeth Wagmeister
He's judging. Anyways, you have obviously never been to a public supermarket before, but that's all I have to say on that.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
You can, I mean, as someone who, you know, whose wife just had a baby and was pumping, you can wear a sports bra and put the pumps underneath and a chunky sweater. And like, you wouldn't even know anything's going on other than hearing a once in a while. Like you can do it pretty discreetly. Breastfeeding, much different, you know? Yeah. And so, yeah, they're not even the same.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
But Natalie made a great, great point.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I couldn't imagine if one time you were like, yeah, I'm pumping, it's cool. And then going forward, every time someone's like, yeah, Leia's pumping in the other room, I just walked in.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
without ever just checking in or knocking on the door. It's the same as like, yeah, like someone's door's closed. You knock. Oh, you can come in the next time it's closed. You're just like, I don't need to knock this time.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Right.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
You're absolutely right. But if you're having a hard time, Even considering Blake's allegations, like I'm just more back to like Emily said, just ask the questions like what's the motivation? A lot of people are speculating, oh, the motivation is she wanted to take over the project and then secure her rights to like doing the other movies. That's just like fan theory as far as I know.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Is there any been reports that Blake had any interest in doing that? I know Justin on the red carpet, like there's certainly...
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Bethany Frankel is the same lawyer as Justin Baldoni.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
How long? Do you know?
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
It seems like the other side's handling it very differently.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
And Justin's co-host, Liz Plank, friend of show, we've had her on. One of my first guests a long time ago. she again unfollowed him publicly removed herself from the show and I think it's really interesting you think about it again Justin's whole platform presumably is about again highlighting and using your privilege as a man to uplift and and spotlight women mm-hmm
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
But when you look at it, it was Liz Plank who did that for Justin. In fact, she has been like in the driver's seat. She has a great book called For the Love of Man. She talks a lot about positive masculinity and things like that. And so when she started the podcast with Justin, it was her who gave Justin a lot of the credibility in this space that he made his entire brand about.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
And now she is separating herself from him. And then you look at it, it's just like, well, what women has Justin elevated? Liz elevated Justin. What specific women has he elevated?
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick. We got the household here. Obviously, I think we should start this episode by acknowledging these terrible fires that we have here in L.A. It's affecting, I mean, we got Sierras living in a hotel right now, and... Thousands of homes, sadly, have been burned down. It's crazy.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Maybe she wants to lay low, but it seems weird. I don't even know if she's been a guest on his podcast. I don't know. It always seems a bit off. And again, I've met him. I had him on the show. I had an opinion based off of my interaction with him. It felt disingenuous, just an opinion. But this all kind of tracks.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
What doesn't track is I just... Everyone, like Sierra and Natalie and everyone in the room are suggesting. It's just like, again... You have to assume Blake, a mother of four who just had her fourth child, is picking or choosing the messiest possible way to fight this battle when history has shown us that Ryan and Blake have been pretty private, pretty unproblematic, pretty low key.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
And for a producer credit, you know, and again, like even if Blake was an executive producer credit, which is like everyone knows is kind of just like meaningless, meaningless. Yeah. Yeah. It just doesn't add up, you know? So we'll see, as always. But, you know, he came out with the leaked voice note. I know a lot of people were like, what about this? Here we are addressing it.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Just ask yourself common sense questions, I feel like. But anyways.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
This is a tough story. We had Alison on about a year ago. We met her a couple times. Lovely person. Nothing but nice. But this story broke. It's the cover of People magazine. It's a picture of her, kind of glamour shot, and then this kind of dark black and white picture of her deceased husband, Twitch.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Babe, if I die and you find some mushrooms in a plastic bag, can you just let it go?
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I don't know what her motives are.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
So, yeah, she posted Allison's post, the People magazine. She writes, anyone who knows me knows I go straight to the source during a conflict and handle my business. But since there's clearly no shame in being so public, I haven't said a word in two years. But here I go. I was there the moment you both connected. I was there the day you got engaged. I stood by your side on your wedding day.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
So clearly this is a close friend of Allison and Twitch. It's a very long message, but the one most surprising, I don't know if it's true, but she's saying that Allison made Twitch's entire family, including Twitch's mom, sign an NDA to attend his funeral.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Well, obviously, we are thinking of all those affected, you know, whatever you can do to support.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah, I think she's out there saying she wants to help people and she wants to spread awareness. And yeah, I guess, but at what cost? I don't know if it's coming from a place of wanting a hero complex, or I don't know, or maybe she's convincing herself of that. But again, at what cost? At the memory of your husband who has passed and your children who want to have a good memory of their father?
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I think there's other ways to... I don't even know what message she's.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
This has been out for a day and it's still all over Instagram. And, you know, usually when you get a bad reaction, you like start you turn off comments and the comments are they're out there and people are commenting and commenting.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
yeah for sure you know so which is you know it's just it's weird because like we know her and we've and we had a lovely interaction and it's just like had i not had the benefit of knowing allison and getting to know her i think my reaction would be far more harsh and far more like just shocked and now i'm just trying to like connect the dots between like the person i got to meet and versus like yeah
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
And I agree with you. I think her intentions, I'm sure, are, I hope, I don't know. It's weird. It's weird.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
At best, tacky.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
wow well i feel like it it maybe is hurting more than helping more i don't know and it just kind of feels icky because obviously i'm assuming she's monetizing the memoir it's not like she's
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I don't know. It's a tough story.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I mean, she was on Dancing with the Stars and had a very great or has a great dancing career. There's a variety of dance competition shows on network television. I think she's been on a few of them. She's successful outside. Yeah, she is very successful outside of her show.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I mean, Twitch was definitely more famous and she was most known for being Twitch's wife, but she has her own individual, very successful career. Speaking of potentially tacky, which I don't think so. Lindsay Hubbard is responding to accusations that her birthing, well, not even birthing announcement, her pregnancy announcement.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
She monetized it, had a little campaign and people are upset about that. It's,
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
so fucking weird it's like you use the clear blue digital test anyways yeah like just tell people about it pay her to go to the store and get the one good digital test at the store this is not the same as like making like your eight and nine and seven year old do a bunch of skits so you can be like influencer parents and youtube parents this is like a little if you give get paid for taking a pregnancy test great why not
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
No way to segue from that. So anyways, we'll kick off the show now. I haven't eaten in 36 hours, so that's fun. I started a water fast. I'm not recommending it to anyone. This is not some sort of do this with me, but it is a... I have a question.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I think, listen, you know, people are very sensitive around kids. I mean, Natalie and I continue to have conversations about like how much or how little should we share about River. It's just like now we're more like posting like the back of our head and stuff. And sure, we still, you know, it's like we don't know the right answers. We're cognizant of it.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
There's obviously a lot of opinions out there. You know, I think that's where it comes from. You know, we have strong opinions about like we know what it's like to record an ad or we know what it's like to record content. We know what it's like to have to do it over and over and over again.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
So every time we see like parent influencers and like young kids or like teenage kids like playing or lip syncing or something, it's like, you know, that sucks. So, you know, that took so many take, you know what I'm saying?
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
And that's our opinion, but other people might disagree, but you know, I think it comes from a place of like parents and kids. And there's just a lot of, I think, strong feelings in that, in that department, but pop off Lindsay Hubbard, like get your pregnancy money.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
They are nice.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
But that one that says pregnant, that hits home.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I don't know. It's kind of like a COVID test.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I don't know. But the other one, pregnant, you're like, holy shit. I think you're pregnant. It's all caps.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Clear blue.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
From the cruise?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
It's supposed to be really healthy for you. It's supposed to like decrease your chance of cancer. It's supposed to be really good for like inflammation. It's supposed to be good for like decreasing your chance of like Alzheimer's and things like that. It just has a lot of, you know, health benefits to like occasionally fast.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
But like, it's a preemptive second chance because while they may remove her from this opportunity, I don't think she is blacklisted from Bravo opportunities.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
My mom did it first. I think the original one is like a seven day fast where you just drink water and like bone broth and...
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
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The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Leah, you were telling me about this. What's the big controversy? I don't understand.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I'm sorry.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
But then there's also the others. I'll tell you what, if someone hasn't eaten in 36 hours, that sounds like the right choice.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I want to tell you a story. When I was a kid, my mom would go grocery shopping. And we have a large family, as you guys know. And so grocery shopping was a bit of an experience for mom. It was a two to three hour thing.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
One of my greatest fantasies as a kid, every time I'd go grocery shopping with my mom, was fantasizing about what it would be like to be locked in the grocery store overnight and have just unlimited access to... Anything, and I would just go down every aisle and fantasize about what I would eat or could eat. I never had a fantasy about what toys I would play with at any given store.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
So yeah, I totally get it. And if you're a kid and your mom's like, you get to buy anything you want, and you thought, I get to buy a whole fucking chicken and it's mine? Yeah.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
And like, why is food not considered an amazing gift for anyone who says like, this is what I want, you know?
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
No, but also as a kid, we used to like my mom would every once in a while buy what we called sugar cereal. So like anything like Cocoa Pebbles or like Sugar Smacks. And I would wake up at 530 in the morning and like run down because there wasn't enough cereal in that box to feed all the kids.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
And then there was a one bowl of cereal rule, which I would often break by like, well, I still have milk. So it's still the same bowl.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
My mom did it all. We couponed. We had to make ends meet.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I once found a Michael Jordan basketball. I think it was Cheerios or something was giving away basketball cards and I was like, what if I got
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Michael Jordan and in the box was Michael fucking Jordan one of the best days of my life I mean obviously obviously yes do you still have the basketball card no I don't know I don't think so I wish I wish I don't know what my parents did with all my cards all of your stuff they keep telling you is at the lake and they're like it's up in the garage you should like look at it and tell me what you want we'll keep it yeah all your trophies all your medals good job Nick
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
He must have unfollowed me earlier.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
That makes sense.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
To prove. So has there been any acknowledgement about his being violent and physical towards women?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yes.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
It was a tough first night. It was a tough first night. And I was fine.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
100% he needs to acknowledge it.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
get sober that's awesome but like you not every alcoholic or person who abuses substances is violent towards women or abuses women physically and like the fact that he's implying that's the case I'm sorry I'm curious if that's like a private conversation between Ali and James because I remember I'm sure Tina said that like that was just out of respect of Ali that some people weren't speaking to Ali
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
He's also addressing the world. Like, you know what I'm saying? He's being a public figure and he's continuing to be a public figure. And he's now posting sobriety coins and making statements about his sobriety. All of these statements indirectly are ignoring the problem, you know, which is his abuse.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
And I have a lot of empathy for people who struggle with addiction, but that's still in no way ever an excuse to do that.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
And what's frustrating is, you know, what's going to happen. He's banking on time going by and people just kind of forgetting and other stories coming out. And then he'll slowly kind of keep reappearing and he'll talk about a sobriety and hope that everyone just forgets about the actual thing that he did, which they will, which they will pick up and throw her across the room. Yeah.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
And then he'll, you know, try to get work again and try to be out there and everyone will just kind of be like, well, didn't you do that thing?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah, it's like a sleight of hand.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah, everyone's more focused about how difficult, like, lively it's so bizarre. It's like, people are difficult on sets all the time. What does that have to do with
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I mean, that's new information.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah, that's really the only takeaway from this video. Also that he seems to be hurting.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah, but the unexpected is a... It kind of... I gotta be... It's slightly... It's not the cleanest video. It's a little bit of a, I do want you to know, I was caught off guard, and she did it, and she broke my heart. It definitely is not... Paige gave, we broke up.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Did she say, I broke up with him unexpectedly, and he's heartbroken, and I'm shattered, and I'm at basketball games, chilling?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I figured out a less name other than mean, so it's less quotable for, like, Nick was mean to me over a hunger fast.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
People have a right to break up. People have a right to change.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Feelings can change. And it doesn't mean anything nefarious. It's just we live in a world where someone breaks up and everyone's expecting... Whose fault was it? Someone's fault or someone did something wrong or nefarious.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Who do you think starts dating first?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Ooh.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I think Paige is going to be dating someone either super rich or famous.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Grumpy. Just saying.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I think it's going to be more of the latter, but we'll see.
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Hugh Jackman, who is also out there dating and getting back out there after his divorce.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I'm not familiar with Sutton Foster. Is she a big deal?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Well, it's a new year. And so being a new year, we have some possible predictions we are going to guess. Is it all Bravo? Is it Bravo predictions?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Solely Bravo predictions. What do we think is going to happen in 2025? Sierra came up with a list of possibilities that we now get to discuss.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I'm fine with hangry. You are. You're very hangry.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Paige had some rumors that she had to deal with about, I guess, some infidelity. And she's had some it seems like she's had some fun clapping back and addressing said rumors.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
See you in court. And again, people always want and need a reason.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Do I have a timeline with who this year?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Paige will announce a prediction with an actor.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Nick is hangry. Mean and hangry are two completely different headlines.
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Now, I really think Paige needs a non-problematic, not a diva.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Also, probably problematic. Yeah. Fair. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I predict shake-up.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I've heard that, well, I mean, I think they're still very close friends, but I hear that Tom Sandoval and his girlfriend are...
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
24-7 on an island. Attached at the hip. Yeah, kind of living on their own. Interesting. There's no room for Schwartz anymore? I don't know how much room there is for Schwartz in this moment of Tom Sandoval's life.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
So they moved in together and now they might be broken up?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
No, we should get Swartz back on.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah, we need an update.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I see it.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Season 3 Valley.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
No, I'm rooting for that. I'm rooting for Brittany Cartwright.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Baseball guys are pretty funny and rich.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I'm delightful right now.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
You're not projecting your own. I mean, I'm just saying, I'm just asking because like 10 minutes ago, you're like, I don't know.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
No, last night sucked hard. Nothing, just water. No substances, no nothing.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
100%.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Well, that does it for 2025 Bravo predictions. All right.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
They said that first 24 hours, it's tough. Honestly, at times I felt like, oh, you know, and I felt really weak and tired. It was like 730. I'm like, can we go to bed?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I think there's a lot of shady chiropractors.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I wouldn't go to a chiropractor in Florida, that's for sure.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
That's your story?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I let Ben Higgins, who learned from his chiropractor buddy, crack my neck.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
It was wild. I don't know why I did that.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I'm sorry. Go ahead.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah. Okay. Kind of. Right? Yeah. It would be more like... Like a friend of trying to get a full cast member? It would be like, for example, like if they have seating. So if like Kyle Richards was going toe to toe with like, let's say a, you know, a Crystal Minkoff, right?
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I needed a cleanse. I've been really eating way too much sugar lately these days. And I think my diet has relatively been not like where I feel like it could be or should be. It's the new year. I figured, fuck it. Let's try it. If my mom can do it, why can't I?
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
And then like Crystal Minkoff, who's not even on the show right now, it would be considered the underdog in whatever match of housewife lore they're competing in.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
No, they're in the playoffs. Wild card is the playoffs.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
That's true. They also had a name change.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
you know did you finish those candies i bought you oh my god i fucking crushed those they're gone are there more oh my i finished those like i had to make myself i had to make myself save the second pack the two containers are gone the first the first one was gone before i got home the second one i was like i'll wait till tomorrow to finish it and then i just crushed them was that am i supposed to they are hard to find and are you offended that i didn't preserve them
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Okay. Well, we'll see how everyone does. Hopefully the Green Bay Packers beat the Philadelphia Eagles that they're playing this week. Okay.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Correct. Cool.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
All right. Bev Hills. All right. We've taken a couple weeks off. Where do we want to start?
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I think Bozeman, of all these women, I trust the most.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I'm going to leave it there. I love that you ride hard for Sutton.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
If there was one housewife that you unequivocally will have their back no matter what, who is it?
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I'm high on brawn.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Domino. Domino? What?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
That's why she brought her? I know she made the joke.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
My favorite thing about Sutton is her friendship with Jennifer Tilly. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
You know the Phantom song that Natalie thought was in Wicked? You're a witch and I'm a rich. Oh, yeah. I picture Jennifer Tilly and Sutton singing to each other. You're rich and I'm rich and we're rich together. Like all day long.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
They're so rich.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
The one who was making out with Raquel.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah. Well, Lisa Vanderpump only defends men.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I don't think it's about them having anything going on.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
It's a form of, well, you know, it's two people connecting is what it is. It may be trivial. It may be nothing more. And I'm not saying like two people sending memes, like you're cheating.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Your husband you're separated with is sending memes with your friend that you're not talking to. How are you not talking to Livid?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I thought it was weird. I didn't want to let you know because I know we're not talking right now, but like, I just, you know, I want you to know where I stand and that's with you. Like Kyle would have lost. I don't even know Kyle that well. I don't know Kyle at all. I've never met her. I met her once, but she was lovely, but I don't know her at all.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I just know her through housewives, but the Kyle I've watched is someone who.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I haven't eaten 36 hours and you guys are just trashing me.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
A lot of people aren't, actually.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Reactive.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
This is a temporary fast. Do not take my health recommendations. I'm doing this for me. I don't need feedback from any of you listening. You know you're going to get feedback.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Sounds almost unbelievable.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah. Anyways, Nikki Glaser, you know, once again, crushing life. What a change of pace from last year after Joe Coy.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Do we have an update on Dorit and PK as of today? Do we know?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Sound both really good.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Also delicious.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
It was a week of people just being like, that was the worst Golden Globes I've ever seen.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I believe that.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
You think they had sex?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I think he just made out with her.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Do you think he did it for the plot? Or do you think he was like.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah, it was crazy. Anyways, Nikki crushed. Everyone can't stop talking about it.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Well, I think she actually signed a three year deal before she hosted and how it worked. Like, I bet, Joe, I bet he also signed a three year deal. No, that's how, you know, actually interesting enough for the story. That's how they signed like a deal being like the networks or whatever.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I would never.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Do we know if there's crossover between hospitality and charm?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I'm always like LT, TJ, hyphenated names. Who's LT? I don't know. Who's the guy with the charm? JT? JT?
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I don't know. Those guys are always up to no good.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
AJ, PJ, CJ. I don't know. Something's off.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Your name?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
That's true. No one goes around. I don't say my name is Envy.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I need the name of the company Envy spelled E-N-V-Y because it was a fun play on words. No one's going around being like, hey, Envy. More importantly, I'm not going around making people call me Envy.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
And you're not Catholic. That's crazy. Strong Catholic names there, Mary.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
That makes sense.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I don't even know what the main story is.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
it's kind of selfish of Paige to not to break up with Craig now she should have broke up with him before filming again we have Summer House that's going to be coming on after this which I think we might be seeing some of that at least or maybe like a no because they broke up like last week so everything's just going to be completely fine yeah during the entire season of Summer House even though we all know Summer House I think is going to be very good oh yeah it has to be you know you got Sierra and West you know what's how's that unfold you got Lindsay's pregnant you know you got Carl is he dating there's a lot of
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Kyle's DJing you know you got a couple two new girls there's a lot of meat on that bone and you look at Southern Charm and it was like Olivia left last season it was the whole season the drama really was the Olivia Taylor Taylor love triangle Austin whatever Shep you know but that's all kind of been cleaned up got rid of Olivia
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
He's got fluid in his brain.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
It's giving Roni. Yeah.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Which I respect.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Which really makes you give props to the people at Summer House. Because whether they're having babies or whatever's going on. Married. You've got a married couple. They show up and work.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
No, I think she already signed a three-year deal before she hosted the first time. I think that's how they normally do it. Networks, for example, they have, you know, if they're going to let Nikki Glaser host, you know, it's like, hey, we'll give you a shot. If you do well, we will renew you. I think it was reported she made like $400,000, $300,000 this year.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Well, we'll keep watching. That does it for us today. Obviously, again, sending our love and prayers to all the people affected by the fires. If you are in any way able to help, whether it's through donations or however you can, obviously look to do that. We will be back next week with an explosive week. Can't wait for you to hear all about all our guests. It's going to be wild, fun, and wacky.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
We'll see you then. Bye.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Next two seasons, she'll make drastically more. So it's like, do a good job here. And now I think she has signed on for two more seasons.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah. So I think it's like you sign a deal and they have like renewal options.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Did you guys also feel like it seemed like some of the presenters when they went up there, like the producer said, just be weird. Say weird shit.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah, but they've done those before and they seem to have land more in the past. And some of them, it was just more like, what is going on?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Sorry. Is this a live? Okay. All right.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Well, Justin Baldoni's lawyer leaked a voice memo yesterday.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
His lawyer's out there fighting the fight in the court of public opinion.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah, so anyways, his lawyer released a voice memo. And it's Justin talking about the night of the premiere and his very soft voice and his very kind of, he's talking about how he was put in a basement.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Well, yeah. He sent a voice note to somebody.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
That's what he sounds like. Also, why didn't Blake and the rest of the cast want you by them for the premiere? I think those are just questions people aren't asking.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah, I mean, it's, I've lived in L.A. for decades, What, 10, 11 years now or something like that. There's been a couple years where there's been like days where it's just like, holy shit, there's a lot of fires. This seems to be worse than I can remember.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Sure. Just for every voice note. For funsies. Yeah. Some people keep them. But yeah, I mean, listen, you're right. Like either way, I think to your point, Leah, it's just like, you know, his team's talked about releasing a bunch of messages potentially. I am, like I said, I said this on Tuesday. I'm certain that most of the stuff that Justin sends are out there. It sounds lovely and very nice.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
You see him talking in this voice memo and he's got this soft, you know, voice. He calls himself an artist. I honestly believe that he probably, who knows what, I don't even know what I'm saying.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
I don't know if Justin believes his version of the story. I think he has a God complex.
The Viall Files
E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Yeah, for sure. I'm sure he thinks that.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
But yeah, I mean, what are some of the other things that are people who are defending Justin saying?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Well, that's ultimately a Sony decision. And maybe people are out there saying, well, Blake influenced them. But ultimately, again, Sony's making that decision. And I guess my response to that is, again, if these accusations about Justin's behavior are true, what would you do? Like... How would you respond? How would you handle it? I would separate myself from him.
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
When did you have to leave? Like what?
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E865 - Los Angeles Fires, Allison Holker Backlash, Baldoni’s ‘Leaked’ Voice Note, RHOBH & Bravo Predictions
Wasn't it the accusation more about breastfeeding than pumping?
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Doop!
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Taylor, welcome to the show. Hey, happy to be here, guys. Electrostatic, Nashville, Tennessee.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I love the backstory we're getting and everything. I'm fired up to be here.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
That sounds like a textbook me situation.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah. This is the time. This is the time to finally do it. I honestly, like I literally was talking to somebody at bus and at the shop earlier. And they're like, yeah, I texted you about this, but you never texted back. I am a, I'm a standard, no text back. I'll get into the middle of a conversation, like an ADD guy where you just dive in. And then all of a sudden-
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I probably need to evaluate a little bit more because I definitely like, I don't think I'm very forgetful sometimes. And then my wife will just remind me of all these other things I said I was going to do or didn't do or like was in the middle of a sentence and just walked away. And then I play like the CT game in my head. Like you did take a lot of hints. It could be something. Yeah.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
You never know. So maybe it's time to do a little look in the mirror, a little reevaluation of how I handle myself from a conversation standpoint. How many years you play for? Play for nine, but nine sounds terrible. Like I really, cause 10 sounds like, so I think one of my new year's resolutions was to say that, to start lying to people's faces and say 10.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And I did that one time and I felt terrible.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And so yeah, nine, same team in Nashville. And it's been, it was awesome, dude. Like I have- Same team.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah. I was very lucky to be a part of like a culture like Tennessee because we were just terrible. We were like two and 14 my first year, three and 13 the next year. And I remember calling a guy named Michael Roos who played left tackle before me. And I'm like, dude, how did you do this for 10 years? Because he was a 10-year guy. And he's like, if you just win, it gets a whole lot better.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And then we started rattling off nine and seven, started going to playoffs, went to the AFC championship one year. So it was really cool to be a part of something like Nashville, where when your team is good, the rallying is just unbelievable. It is awesome. It's awesome to be a part of.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
was just will compton and i like will was on the team formerly known as the redskins and then they became the commanders obviously he went from there in 2018 time with the titans and then our love over like joe rogan the fighter and the kid like a bunch of podcasts that was just like kind of like we had a little breakfast club basically you sit before practice you bitch about how hard the practice is going to be you like laugh about how horrible your life is even though you're playing the nfl then you go do it well that was kind of like our little camaraderie
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And then at the end of the year, we're playing the Colts for a winning get in game. And we get donkey stomped by the Colts. Like 31-3, it was over. And then we got a little banged up, go to a Chinese buffet restaurant. And he's like, I want to start a podcast, but I feel more comfortable if you do it with me.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And at the time, there was no active NFL players or active athletes really doing a podcast at all. So it was very new, uncharted territory. But the state I was in and Will being my boy, and I just signed a contract that gave me some sort of stability in Nashville for the foreseeable future. it was an, it was kind of became an easy choice.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
So we started up and, you know, that kind of goes into the entertainment thing where I love, I've always loved the idea of entertainment. And I thought it was only like simply like acting or music. And I don't, I know a lot of music. I know a lot of like lyrics of songs, but I, your boy can't really see that. I do a decent kit more, but other than that, it's kind of like out the window.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And the whole acting thing I was like interested in for a little bit, but then it just seemed like, It's not exactly, it doesn't like do it for me the way I really thought it would kind of do it for me. And so- Did you try it at all and kind of get a sense of that? So I've done a couple of things. I'm doing something this summer that I can't, I don't know if I can really talk about.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
There's a guy who's in a band. Okay. He is also a writer with his brother and they wrote a script. It got green-lit. It's getting produced, the whole thing. And so he's got a guy who's doing, you know, a big actor who's going to play the main. And he's like, I really want you to play this part in this country Western movie. So I'm like going to go up and I'm going to, I'm going to do it for him.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And I've done a couple of things. I was on like, um, have you seen the league? Yeah. So the league of season six, episode one. Okay. Not a big deal. IMDB. Check me out. 34 minutes and 27 seconds. Absolutely. All right. Okay. But I loved the idea of it more than I think I loved it.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And so when this podcast thing came up, at first I was like, I'm doing it, but I'm very insecure about what are people going to think? What are people going to do? And then you start to realize that basically whatever I say in this podcast right now, in 24 hours, it's not going to matter anymore. Like it's just getting the whole media cycle.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
So you feel a little more loose, a little more comfortable about being yourself. Maybe trying, if you have a joke in your head, working out that joke, like finding different things and then joining Barstool kind of opened up that world in a crazy way to where it's like, you see the way Dave Portnoy and Dan Katz and KFC, the way they operate. So that was awesome.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
But when it came to like entertainment after football, I took some... I took some meetings with MSNBC, ESPN, a couple of things about maybe doing some broadcasting work. But the thought of just being a football guy forever, when there's so many different lives to live, there's so many different things to do. it felt more restricting to me than anything else. I love football.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I love the X's and O's. I love sitting there and talking to guys about the process of the game. That is awesome. But it's like, I don't want that to be everything that I do. And I want to dive into being a dad. Will, he has two little girls. I have two little girls. It's just, there's so many different lives to live.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
So for me, it's like, how do I somehow be the best dad possible while doing the most things possible as well to kind of figure out what this whole life thing's all about?
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
It's an incredible amount of intention. I can't say that I've been good at it my whole life. I think I've gotten a whole lot better in recent years. But like with football, there's a level of like, I don't know if it's like narcissism is the right word, but like definitely main character syndrome that takes place when you play football or play a sport at a high level.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah. So it's always like, It's about me. It's about my recovery. It's about my nutrition. It's about my sleep. And I need to perform at the best I can because when I go play on Sundays, it's like, not only am I protecting somebody that's worth a lot of money, I'm getting paid a lot of money. And there's the battle of egos. There's all these different things, these fans watching.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
That Twitter search bar haunts you. It's just haunting you and staring at you. You don't want to let down people. You want to prove the haters wrong. And so you have like this vicious cycle of, it's really all about me all the time. And it takes a very strong woman to kind of pull you out of that. And my wife, Taylin, we met and in five weeks, we're engaged, married in two months. Oh, shit.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
It was very, very quick. It was after my second season in the league. How did y'all meet? We've been married for nine years. What's that? How'd y'all meet? Dude, it's a crazy story. She was in Leapers Fork, Tennessee. And she was, I'll give a, I won't take your entire time with the story, but I'll give you the spark note.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah. So my wife, she was in Leapers Fork, Tennessee. And she ended up being friends with my mom first. And anytime I would come around, because I was dating somebody else, anytime I would come around, my mom would tell Taylor, my wife, don't speak to Taylor. Because if you do, he's going to fall in love with you. Yeah. So I'd always like see this incredibly hot girl, like always with my mom.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And my mom would be like, hey, what do you think of Taylor? I'm like, she's a rocket, but she doesn't speak. The girls are damn mute. And we started like, I was running like three or four times. And then finally I met her for real when I was in my house that I just bought. And my mom like fancies herself an interior designer. So we're talking about this accent.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Well, like distressed barn wood, we put it there, blah, blah, blah. And she pulls up and we just talked for three hours. And I start hitting her with questions like, well, if you lived here, what would you do? Or this, blah, blah, blah, all these different things. And three days later, I see her at Loser's Bar. And I'm like, hey, I can't believe I had this connection with you.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I've never felt like this in my entire life. I need to see where this goes. And we end up going to LA, spending six days there, go to San Francisco for six more days, drive down to Arizona, which is where I'm from. And then she comes back to Nashville. And then we're talking for a little bit and I'm like, she's like, I miss you. And I was like, well, I miss you too.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
But if you come back, you're not leaving. And she came back and I was waiting with a ring. So I, I proposed to her right there. And I had this, I was, so what was I, I got in the NFL at 21. So I was probably, I was about to turn 23, about to turn 20. No, about to turn 24. I had this like big elaborate plan. She's from British Columbia.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Canada and I was going to get on a plane, go see her dad and her mom, who I've not met yet, by the way, and ask for her hand in marriage, all these different things. I go with a passport card and people at the airport are like, this is not a passport. You need an actual passport. I'm like, no, no, it's a card. It works just fine. It's just fine. Let's drive in or by sea. And so I got shut down.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Her dad calls me and he's like, hey, I understand what you're trying to do. You have my blessing, blah, blah, blah. And so I was just waiting with the ring. And she always like, I want to go to Iceland with the person I spend the rest of my life with. So I was like, booking a trip to Iceland. We're going to do this. I basically got on my knee in a kitchen and she sat on my knee.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And then as a joke, we're back in Nashville a couple months later. And it was like right around 420. And we're like, why don't we get married on 420? So we went to some chapel somewhere in Nashville. I could not get you there to this day. And we got married. Found a guy online that was like a 24-hour service. He popped up. We didn't have like wedding bands, so we used like Haystraw. Wow.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And we've been married for nine years now. Just celebrated our ninth year anniversary.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I think because of the whole thing I talked about, the main character syndrome and all that, I was so focused. And the reason why this kind of story began was it takes a really strong woman to pull you out of that. My wife was incredibly intentional about being nurturing to myself and my career. And I had a whole bunch of bag of issues, different things from my childhood traumas that we all have.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
We all want to talk about how bad our lives were when we were younger. Look how much we've overcome. And Taylin... Did a great job of like acknowledging all those things while also being like, you need to kind of, if you want to be a better person, like you have to proactively go about these things to be a better person. You can't just be like, I want to be a better person. Right.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Because your boy, like a hundred percent, when I was, before I met Talyn, I was- In the streets. I was out there ripping around a little too hard. Yeah. I was out there boozing, getting crazy, staying up too late, all those different things. And so meeting her, it was like, oh, that's the type of girl I didn't even know existed.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
So if I want that type of girl, I need to elevate myself as a man to achieve being with someone like this. And so when it comes to keeping a spark alive, it's just Dude, every day it's, you know, my wife, like she's, she loves words of affirmation, acts of service, like kind of all the love languages. She loves them all. And I mean that, yeah.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And I mean that as a positive because it's like, there's so many ways to scratch that itch for her to feel, feel love. And it's about not only me scratching those itches for her, but her telling me as well, like, Hey, I need this from you. And being like, there's not one person in this world that has a better communicator than Talyn Gallagher.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
She is so great at communication, breaking down process, even when we get in arguments. And that shit pisses me off. She does a great job of like arguing my side and her side. Better than you. You think you're so fucking smart. I don't know if we can curse in the show.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah, we don't know if you're so fucking smart. Because I'm a big dumb football player that's like all brute force. I can't use big words like Talyn does. But it's literally an honor to be with this girl. It's an honor to be with this woman. It's an honor to have kids with her.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
There's a lot of other girls that were great people that treated me right that I didn't necessarily, wasn't mature enough for. But something about Taylin snapped me out of it to where I was like, oh shit, this is, that's the path. And that is the only path for me. So it's been awesome.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Do I probably know this football player?
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
being the first of nothing like all the cons of playing professional sports the pros outweigh it ten tenfold and you have to be you have to be aware of that and like the social media trolls don't just start when you get to the nfl it's you know i went to the university of michigan obviously there's michigan state there's ohio state and at the time notre dame we played every single year like those fan bases want to tell you how much of a piece of you are your fan base when you have a bad game want to tell you how bad of a player you are
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And honestly, I hated it. I really did. And I think a lot of players pretend like it does not bother them, but it's the search for validation. And if you live by the cheers, you'll die by the booze. So you go in, like, I have a good game. And I'm like, you know, I go type in Taylor LeJuan, blah, blah, blah. And all of a sudden I'm looking at Taylor LeJuan's a beast.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Oh, Taylor LeJuan, he's so athletic. Yeah, that's a good feeling too. Yeah. And then Taylor one sucks. But like, you see all these comments that are positive. And then the one comment you're like, for whatever reason, it's like cracking her foundation of a person like this. Like, why does this person hate me? What is going on? And you can easily go into that spiral
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I think a lot of elite football players or elite athletes, when they do see it, the best ones don't look at it. The best ones don't. But if you do look at it, it's about using it as a chip. It's got to be way different for you being on The Bachelor, Bachelorette. When you're like,
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
basically searching for this love and you're showing your personality you're showing who you are you're you're at the mercy of the editors and how they want to display you on the show all the fine print that you probably had to sign and stuff like that and then everyone's making a judgment on you and your character for me it's like you're judging me on my athletic ability and my capability to do a job that makes sense and so that was like difficult for me because like a
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
a lot of football players, if you have them on your show or a lot of players in general, be like, sports is what I do. It's not who I am. If you play it long enough, it becomes a part of the fabric of your foundation. It really, you like identify with it. You understand football players better. You understand other athletes better. They understand you better.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
You find the foundation that way, like with friendships. So like to say it's not who you are is kind of a lie. Like if you live and breathe it for so long, So when people are commenting on your character and your athletic ability, it makes you feel like shit.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
What I've noticed in going into this podcast world and this reality TV world, which I'm so fresh to, we're 14 days into battle camp or whatever it is, is that for whatever reason, I've been in this since I was 18 years old, where people are going to say and correct. And I've been able to mature and watch and grow and have a family and realize what is important, what's not important.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
If people go and watch battle camp, for instance, and they're like, the show's great. The host sucks. Well, I don't know. I mean, great. Like that's, that's your opinion. Like I had no idea what I was doing for all 30 of those days that we were shooting the show. If I sucked, you're probably right.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Like, but the fact that I even got to do it, it's like, it's like changing your view from like, I need to be great to what an experience. then I think that's a lot of things that people, the reason why they fail or don't do something is the fear of not meeting their own expectations and the expectations of others. And if you just go in, you're like, dude, this is just dope.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
This is just an awesome experience. A lot of times I feel like that'll show in the process.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
So I'm not a huge reality TV guy. I do have a weird thing for Temptation Island. That show. It's crazy. We have the entire cast here in the other room. Yeah, my wife was telling me last night, I was coming to the show, she was like, they just had, because my wife and I just watched the most recent episode or recent season.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
We can break that down later because that is crazy what those people have to go through. But I was never really into reality TV. I did see some Bachelor. I was dating a girl before that was into it. Saw you. I thought you had a good showing. You did well out there. But I don't truly remember. But it was a very entertaining show.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I'm a fan of your work. Good work out there. And I like... I wasn't pursuing anything from reality TV standpoint. My agent calls me, my football agent calls me because I didn't have an entertainment agent. I met with a couple of people, like I said, like ESPN and stuff like that, but that's a whole different branch of agencies.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And they're like, Hey, you know, this, this company wants you to host a reality TV show, but I know you're busy with bus and like, you probably don't want to do it. And I was like, yeah, you're probably right. I don't have time, but like, what's the company? And they're like, Netflix. I was like, what are we talking about? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to need to like, at least take that. Yeah, exactly.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
So I go and I, I take this meeting with a bunch of people. There's, you know, there's this company Tames, who is a production company that is doing battle camp. And then a bunch of people from Netflix and this guy named Rich, who is like one of the head casting people for non-scripted TV. He's on it. He's watched the show and seen how I facilitate conversations and all this stuff.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And I was like, he brought me to the table essentially. I'm like, hey, we should look into this guy, Taylor LeJuan. So I do the interview and they're basically telling me like, hey, you're our guy. We love it. We love your stuff. We would love for you to do this. Kind of felt like, oh, I got this job without even knowing I wanted this job. And then I make a joke about
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
hey, if I'm going to do anything, make sure I get to see a script before. Because if you want me to read out loud the first time, your boy can, for whatever reason, become dyslexic. Speaking out loud, sorry, reading out loud is the worst for me.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah, dude, whenever someone hands me like, hey, read this out loud, like panic is sex. But if you're like, hey, you need to go speak in front of these people. I have no issue with that at all. It's really just like the reading part. So I didn't know in the entertainment industry, you should never talk about your flaws because when we get off, my agents are like, hey, great job. However,
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
They did not like that. They're worried that you might not be able to do it. So they're going to send you a script and you have to do a read for them now. So I get the script. It's like four or five pages long. And I'm like, I'm just going to learn this entire script verbatim. So I do the read for them. I'm very nervous.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I was more nervous doing that script read than I was the entire shoot of Battle Camp. But we do it. They like it. And they're like, all right, you're our guy. which was awesome. And then they send this lady from LA, Alita Gillian, who's like this host coach.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
She's like, anytime someone's like hosting something for the first time, she like goes wherever you are and she like kind of like immerses you in it. And it is awesome. Like she is unbelievable. Like I have where I live in Nashville, I have 13 acres. We have this cabin that was like from 1799 that we redid. It was like a hospital in the civil war. Yeah. Alita stayed there every three days.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
We're like walking around my house and my property. And we're like, she's talking to me. She's like, all right, start reading the script. I started doing the script. She's like, stop. Now they're going to move cameras. And then when you get there, hey, they're going to have a script for you. Don't even learn the script because they're going to rewrite the script five times before you even do it.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And then X, Y, and Z. So she was running me through all the things of, so I knew exactly what was going to happen when I got there. And then when I got to Mexico, it's like 45 to an hour outside of Mexico City. Things just started happening. Like the first 24 hours, I was like, oh shit, like Alita said all these things were going to happen. And they did.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
So the level of comfort that she gave me, just kind of feeling like I've done it a thousand times before was awesome. And it was a very, very cool experience.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
They don't. They don't. Thank God. My seven-year-old, Wynne, she's obsessed with Harry Potter right now. So we're like reading the Harry Potter books. At one point, we're doing a chapter a night. But them boys, I tell you, you'd like book four. Yeah, it's like 40 pages. I'm over there being like, it's 1030, so you gotta go to sleep.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
But I'll read to her and I laugh to myself because we have obviously a camera in her room that you can watch. And I just think to myself sometimes, I wonder if Taylin's watching this right now and just laughing to herself how stupid I sound.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah, she's got to be. But basically my seven-year-old and I, we're on the same reading level at this point. She's a much better reader than me. She's much more put together. They do not call me out though. I love it.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I know. Yeah. I don't know if I have any other skills other than blocking people and talking on a microphone. Like so far that's worked out so far. Just being like a zoo animal tall. Like those are my only skills that I really have at this point.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Early in the show, first off, I thought, and this is such a cliche answer, there was not one person on that show that I did not like. All the ins and outs of what happened in camp and the misdirection and the misbehaving, I never really knew. I kind of went, I explained the challenges.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
During breaks, I would talk to them, get to know them, because that made me feel more comfortable as being more personable with them. And then the wheel ceremony was when you kind of see everyone's heart rate kind of skyrocket to 160. But I really enjoyed everyone. The person that stood out to me in the beginning was Tony. I thought, there's no way this guy's real. The way he's operating.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
The first time I met Tony, he walked up to me on a break without even really introducing himself. He goes, so you play with the Titans, right? And I was like, yeah, I played. He goes, you know that wrinkle on your forehead? You need a little Botox. You can get that out no problem.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
i'm thinking hey tony what are we talking about dude then he like the thing i love about tony is his jokes are terrible he is uh he i think he comes off a lot dumber than he tries to act dumber than he is but he's like unapologetically himself so because he was like so aggressively like wannabe dumb guy the hot guy i like thought to myself like this guy's great
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Like I'm sure if you're with him 24 seven, he's playing that bit the whole time. It can very much get old. But I, there was something about him that was like, I could pepper this guy and kind of like chirp them and have a little fun with them. And he's going to eat it and keep moving forward. Another person that I like who had the most wild outfits out of everybody was Lorenzo.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I thought Lorenzo was, just once again like so different from me in every sense of the word and he was just like witty and funny and like charismatic and him and georgia had this like weird little like romance love thing going on the whole time and i like i loved it but in my head i'm thinking you got to split them up.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Like you got, if I'm thinking, if I'm a contestant on the show, you've got to get these cats separated and get some votes on them to get them out of there. But they did a great job moving everything around. Love Shuby. I thought he was awesome.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I thought he wasn't like very active in the show as far as like from a challenge standpoint, but great vibes guy through and through one person that impressed me a lot too. I'm just, maybe I'll just get through the whole cast. But like Avery, I was impressed by her and I haven't watched the whole show, but I was impressed on the beginning of the show.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
She was so on the wheel for the, from the votes. Everyone's like, Hey, she's a strong player. We've got to get her out of here. Boom. Then all of a sudden Lexi gets booted. And then Avery kind of just flew under the radar from then on out. Like she was kind of like no more votes, whatever she did, she righted the ship in a big way, which I think strategically had to be a big move on her part.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
So everyone was awesome. I really enjoyed everybody.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
So at the end, I wanted Lorenzo to win because I thought Lorenzo did the most from a challenge standpoint. I was also really impressed by Georgia. Like obviously Georgia is a pretty girl and she's got the accent and like she's fun and she does a great job of like the manipulation process being on the dating shows and stuff like that. But I thought she like really held her own in challenges.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And I was like, okay, like it really didn't turn into like who I want to win. It'd be like, who would I be? Like, you know, I wouldn't be upset about anybody. Like Chase to me was like, well, you kind of just got here. So if you won, I don't know if like the viewer themselves would love it that much.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
You know, I thought Chase was a good dude, but like Georgia Lorenzo, I really thought did a great job. I know Trey got kicked out towards the end, but I thought Trey had a shot. He was a little sneaky devil.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah, consistency is a beautiful thing. Like Shoebomb and Tony come to mind when you talk about them. But isn't it funny how as viewers of the show, like I don't know if you guys do this, but even me, like when I watch a reality TV show, which like I said before, I don't watch a whole lot, but when I do, it's like so easy to sit there in your chair and judge, what are they doing?
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
What an idiot, you know? And it's funny, like when we were with Barstool, we did Surviving Barstool, which is their like spinoff of Survivor. And we, I like me, my, myself and Will Compton were like contestants in it. It was a seven day shoot. It was very quick, but psychologically, like where you go in the first 24 hours is actually insane.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Like the, you're the real world, like kind of vanishes before your eyes and it's just totally focused on this. It's just crazy. Like kind of the, the situations that people get put into and how they like, are they want to, they, they still are still themselves, which I'm not a hundred percent sure if that's still Tony.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
I'm not 100% sure that's actually Tony, but everything I saw the whole time, that was Tony.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Oh, that's a good question. A show that I would want to host next, you know, like, like, like the whole temptation Island thing. First off, Mark Wahlberg crushes. He is the goat of all hosts. Yeah. So I could never take his job ever. Like he's like, I don't know if he's actually a therapist, but his background, the way he handles that, he's unbelievable.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah. It's like, Mark seems like he's like truly connected to the people that he cares. He listens to the process. He has a great way of like having you zoom out a little bit and be like, okay, let's focus on what you're doing. Not necessarily what they're doing to you, you know? And like, he does a great job with that. If you look at battle camp, battle camp is, it's a character driven show.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Like I'm, I'm really not necessarily needed other than to spin a wheel and to direct people of what to do next. Yeah. and the show. So watching a guy like Mark be able to break down psychologically what these people are going through in a crazy world is something I look at like, that's pretty unbelievable.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
But as far as like, you know, the reason why I would want to take that job is it shoots in Hawaii. And that's a huge dove. I'm an hour outside of Mexico city, brother. It was hot. You were in Mexico city. It was, it was like, so I stayed in this, um, this hotel called hotel Americana. And it's basically, I feel like a, a group got together and like, what do Americans like?
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And that's basically what there's like KFCs in there. Taco bells, like there's like a karaoke bar in there. It was, it was genuinely funny. to see like how like stereotypical American this hotel was or like, like in the craziest way. And I would go and I would drive.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
It would always be me, Miguel, my driver, Mike, who was like, kind of like kept me safe, I guess, even though I don't know if Miguel keep anybody safe. And then Terry, my hair and makeup person, we would always just rip together. And it'd be an hour from Hotel Americana, which was like 20, 30 minutes outside of Mexico City to like the hills of Mexico.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And they built this set in like six weeks time. So it was a two hour drive every single day there and back. It was a lot. It was definitely a lot, but I was still in such a new world that I didn't get like tired of it until like the last three days when I knew the end was near and I had a really good grasp and I kind of like, well, everything was going on.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
But like the show itself, like because it was so new, like it was just, my head was spinning the entire time.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
trying to be something. Sure. Like over and over again, like first off- Like a guru, yeah. Yeah, first off, thank you. Like I'm just gonna take that compliment. I gotta receive that thing because that is awesome. But I will say like when I talked about like kind of being that guy that, you know, like a fuck boy type of like- cat before I met my wife, I very much was that.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And I was very much not a role model. And it took a lot of violence for me to become this calm and this comfortable in my own skin. So when you say you've come off as a role model, to me, it's like, I know what my early 20s were like and how I was in college and all these different things that it's almost difficult for me to handle. And I really do appreciate it.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
When it comes to being a role model to people, I think it's just, you have to be authentically yourself. And I think that's what breeds, that's why this show does well. That's why Bustin' with the Boys does well. That's why you see a company like Barstool do so well because it's authentic 24 seven, whether you like it or not.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And if I can authentically be the best version of myself on a consistent basis, then that makes me a good role model. But it only happens through every single day doing it over and over and over again. And that's what like, you know what, dude, you have a 15 month old kid, like your perspective on so many things changes the minute you have a child, especially a girl.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And I really think that's a big difference is having a girl because you realize like, you know, being the guy and being a teenager and knowing that one thing that's always on your mind and how you're acting a certain way. And then you have a daughter and you're like, okay, how do I protect and teach this kid to like sift through the bullshit in a lot of ways?
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And so hopefully my kids are set up for success because it's kind of like my wife's job to show my kids what a strong, independent woman looks like. And then it's my job as a father to show my girls how they should be loved by the way I love their mom. That is kind of like... The process.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And if I do those things and I keep open lines of communication with my kids, because there's a lot of things that you can look up about me on Google that you'd be like, this dude's a fucking bad person. You know, like in college, I hit this kid after an Ohio State game because he was like trying to rough up my brother. And that's out there. There's a mugshot that's actually out there. Oh, shit.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
But it's like, I'm 21, I'm 33 now. It's one of those things where it's like, yeah, my kids are going to ask me questions about that. And I'm going to have to have some sort of dialogue. Like, yeah, your dad was that type of dude. And then had to change and make corrections when I was like 23, 24. So it's not the most difficult thing in the world to fess up to the bad things you did.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
But it's like, I feel like it's more difficult to hide. Like, act like you're the greatest person ever. Act like you've never done anything wrong. Because for me, it's like, if all my skeletons are out, I feel so much more comfortable going through life.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
It was tough. Did you know that was going to happen when you started the show?
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Because they did it week by week, right? It's not like Netflix where they release it all at once.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Just a slow process of anxiety building up. And what are they going to do next week? Okay, now I'm the villain.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And it's funny, dude, how people will just be like, hey, you're a scumbag. You're this and the other. And then those same people will see you at the bar and they're like, hey, let me get you a drink, man. What was it like? How sick? It's just so interesting how the world revolves around you. How did you feel after it started to go away a little bit?
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
You have this, you walk into the bar, you feel like a rock star. But then the next season of Bachelor comes out and then your storyline gets farther and farther removed from the current event of everything that's going on.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
And I was talking to her.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
But the ones that talk shit for whatever reason that holds more weight, or at least it lingers in the back of your mind that much more.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Binary scale, dude. One, zero, you're a one. You're winning the battle of yes or no. The thing that's so funny about you talking about walking by slower. Because I bet at one point when you first did it, people were like, what's it like? Do you like it when you go out and people recognize you? I bet you said to somebody like, no, I hate that shit. Yeah. That is such a bullshit thing.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
People ask me, hey, will you sign this or take a photo? And then there's always somebody that's trying to be kind, but be like, this probably bothers you, doesn't it? And the answer to that is absolutely not. There's times I have to go places and do something. So I'm in a little bit of a hurry. So I might not give you the time you might want, but I will do, I'll sign and take a photo.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
But I think it's crazy when people are like, I hate that shit. It's bullshit. Because it's like,
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
someday i'm gonna walk somewhere and i'm gonna walk into a room and no one's gonna know or give a shit who i am they're gonna look at me like guy looks tall probably played sports and it's gonna be over so you gotta like enjoy these small moments of like for whatever reason you people enjoy like what you did or what you do and like take making the most of it because it will end someday it does not last forever unless you're tom cruise
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Well, if you're looking for me personally, you can go to Taylor1 on Instagram, Taylor177 on Twitter. Bussin with the Boys comes out every Tuesday, 6 a.m. Myself and Will Compton on a bus. We got athletes. We got musicians, actors, comedians, all those different things. It's a good time, dude. Come hang out.
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E930 - Love On The Spectrum’s Abbey & David, Karen Read, Battle Camp Host, The Valley & Clayton Vindicated
Yeah, it's been awesome.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
It's good. My name's Sierra. I'm 25 and I'm wondering if I should move on from a rekindled situationship.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
So there's a little bit of context to this. I started talking to my situationship from about a year and a half ago. We had a more friends with benefits kind of relationship. I wanted to be with him and be in a committed relationship, but he told me he wasn't ready for anything serious. And I did the number one thing that a lot of girls do. And I
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
gave him the benefits, hoping that it would lead into something more.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Exactly. A little bit more context is we actually went to high school together. So we've known each other for a while. And we were friends in high school. And then during the time we had started talking, it just didn't go anywhere. So I decided like, hey, this isn't going to work. You're not picking me. So I'm going to move on and start seeing other people. Okay.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Yeah. So I started dating someone else. It was about eight months and then it didn't work out. I didn't feel like we were a good fit. And when I broke up with him, my situationship showed back up after he found out we broke up a couple of weeks later and was like, hey, I messed this up. I regret losing you, and I want to do it right this time.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Yeah, so he says that he doesn't want to move too fast.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Yeah. So to answer your question, I would say so because we had this situation in the past, I will say he's shown up very differently. He's a lot more emotionally available and he hasn't this time around said, oh, I'm not ready for a relationship or I can't give you what you need. He hasn't said that this time. It's actually been the opposite.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Like he seems like he's more of an avoidant type of man. So feelings are scary for him. And I would say he's pretty good at telling me when he's struggling, like connecting or he needs space. I'm very much the opposite. So we're kind of like, it's a hard balance.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Um, so the difference this time is he's actually pursued me. He's taken me on dates. He got me a gift for Valentine's day. He got me flowers and like AirPods, which was nice of him. And, uh, it kind of gets rocky because it's just hot and cold with him. So sometimes it seems like he's a hundred percent in and then he'll be like, I don't know, 50-50.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Yeah, I agree. I have given him, I would say more recently, kind of the cold shoulder. That's just a tactic.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
No, I don't. I don't. I don't think that I'm doing that. I actually genuinely like who he is as a person. So I would say he has a lot of fundamental qualities that I look for.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
I want to say, because this is what he's told me, that... His last relationship absolutely broke his heart. He was in love with her.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
That was right before we had started talking the first time.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
And now he says that he's over her and he's over that. But I think that's why it's hard for him to step into something that's committed because he's scared to get his heart broken again.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Yeah, I would say I am a very nurturing person. That's awesome. Yeah. I've hold his feelings very highly and all those around me. I think that, so a couple of weeks ago for a little bit more context, we had gone into a little, I don't want to say argument, but it's a, it was a disagreement about something.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
And for whatever reason, it made him just like completely pull away and was like, I don't know if I can give you what you want right now. I don't, you're not going to like this.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
So, yeah, what happened was I was in Hawaii on a, just a solo trip and I, There was a time difference. I don't have my Snapchat notifications on. So he had Snapchatted me and I just happened to be on Snapchat at the time. And I went to click on the Snapchat and he immediately unsent it. And I called him out on it. I was like, hey, why did you unsend that Snapchat?
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
And he's like, oh, I thought you were asleep. It was for my friend. I was like, OK. He was like, she's in my class. I was like, OK, what? Yeah, she. I said, OK, is this a girl that has a crush on you? Because I know there's someone in his class that has a crush on him. He said, no, it's this other girl who also likes girls. So she's gay. So, yeah, she definitely likes me.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
He was like being very sarcastic. And I was like, all right, whatever. Like, it's not a big deal. But since we haven't had this conversation, are we exclusive? If, you know, we're doing the whole thing. Talking, getting to know each other thing. Are you seeing other people? You brought this up. I did at this point in time because I was frustrated. Or are you seeing other people?
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
And he said, no, we're exclusive. I'm not talking to anyone else, but we aren't in a relationship. I said, that's fine. I get it. So I was more concerned at like what the context of the Snapchat was because I thought it was really strange.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
No, I didn't ask him because I just like whatever at this point. So that's what happened. And he said the way I had reacted to it. was not something that he liked. He said it was kind of a red flag of me.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
I agree with you. That's where my gut feeling went to. So after that conversation, he told me that he needed some time to reflect and think. And at that point, I was pretty fed up. So I gave him his space. It was like five days. I didn't reach out to him because I was like, if you want to be with me, if you want to continue to pursue me or see me, This is the balls in your court now.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Like I'm not doing that again. I'm not going to chase you like I did the first time because I don't have the energy for it. So I didn't talk to him for five days. I didn't text him. I didn't call him. And every single day he would check in with me at least once and tell me, oh, I miss you. I am just like in my head right now. And I basically told him, I don't care if you miss me, you can miss me.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
and not want to move forward with me like that doesn't mean anything to me like don't talk to me and waste my time if you're not going to move forward and like we're not going to continue to get to know each other so the five days goes by he says he wants to talk in person we meet up and he's telling me like I do want to continue moving forward I just don't want to move too quickly.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
So I agreed because at the same time I was like, you know what, right now after your behaviors of that specific incident, I wasn't like, oh, I want to make you my boyfriend right now too because I also have the option. So it also put a bad taste in my mouth, that situation. I hear you. So I was like, you know what, I'm fine with that.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Yeah. I also, I have a more traditional outlook on relationships too. So I definitely, I'm younger, but I do want to find my person, like settle down at an earlier age, I would say. But I agree with you. Like maybe he's just not there or he's not there. We know that. Yeah.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Yeah. I would say I do struggle with that in relationships. I tend to have a more dominant personality. So I think I kind of seek out men who I don't want to say are below me, but maybe at a different point in life and different lifestyle than me.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
I want a partner. I want someone who's able to provide. I think because my career is so demanding, I have very high expectations. I know it doesn't seem like it, but I do.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
means reducing the amount of second chances and and doing the same thing over and over yeah so i guess i should just maybe see like if he changes since we said we would agree to move forward and like get to know each other or should i
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Oh, we're not having sex. That was a boundary that I made when we started talking again. I told him that there's going to be no intimacy this time around unless we're in a committed relationship. So he's not getting any of those benefits this time.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Yeah. He does bring things to the table. He does things for me. If I'm sick, he'll check in on me and he'll bring me soup or food. So he does these things. That's why I say it's like this gray area because he'll do these boyfriend things and take care of me or ask me if I'm okay and check in on me.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
I'm not... That's a good question. He's very work-oriented and goal-oriented, I would say. I wouldn't say selfish, but he definitely puts himself first, which is what I would ask my partner to do anyways.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely something that I could sit down and ask him and see how the conversation goes.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
When I ask him these things and he tells me he feels pressured, is that just the way of a guy saying like, I'm not ready yet, but I'm just going to stick around until maybe I'm ready?
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Yeah, he does have a pretty stressful job too, so.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
I don't have an answer. I mean, it's a good perspective to reflect on.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
Yeah, I do know. I don't want a man like that. I want quite the opposite, actually.
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E917 Ask Nick - My Boyfriend Stole My Job
All right. Yeah, I could do that. I actually have a pretty cold side to me if I need to. All right.