Rob Haney
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100%.
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Good. Nick? Yep. How's it going, sir? Brandon? Yes, sir.
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Cody?
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Nice to meet you. And then Eli. Eli. All right. Nice to meet you. My name's Rob. How are you guys doing? Rob. Doing good.
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Pretty good.
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Yeah. CDQC down in Key West and then Halo down in, I went to school down in Marana.
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So I was the special troops battalion sergeant there at Fort Benning, Georgia. We had a reconnaissance company. So that was, you know, our element. It was kind of in charge of green face recce. So I went to school with them. to be able to participate with them in training. And then I went to CDQC or dive school when I was a young sergeant.
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I was up grading lanes on EIB, if any of you guys have seen that. So I was grading the NBC station. They walked up there. They were like, hey, who wants to go to preschool? But I'm like, I would much rather do that than sit up here and grade lanes all day. So that was the worst three weeks and three days of my life, is going to dive school.
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Explain why it was absolutely... Well, so first group, you don't actually drown. It's a shallow water blackout. But first group... You don't actually drown. You don't actually drown. It just feels like it.
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No, that's not true. The buildup of carbon dioxide in your blood kind of clicks your brain out. But... During pre-scuba, you know, you do a lot of underwater work and, you know, there's very, very controlled, very observed. But sometimes you just, you know, that the little tunnel gets tighter and tighter and then somebody picks you up out of the water.
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That's the commercial self-reflection. Yeah. So it was a very hard school, very physically fit, physically enduring school. It has a purpose in the Army. The Special Operations Forces that use Combat Diver as a job, which I did not use it solely as a job, they have a very hard mission in the Army, and I very much respect what they do.
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For me, it was open water swims because you do up to 3,000 meters of open water spinning on top of the water. I started out and I was— You get a little closer to the mic. Yeah, I felt like I was pretty fast, but I was always in swim team last. So everybody that dropped to the course, you ended up getting paired with somebody new every day. So I always had a new partner.
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Every single day, it seemed like I always had a new partner, and I couldn't get used to build that bond. You dug. That was probably the worst part of it.
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Yeah, finning in open water. So it was pretty neat.
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No, no, no. I'm not that old.
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Oh, absolutely not. No, I spent a significant amount of time in the tunnel. I was told that I fly like a potato chip or a piece of cardboard.
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So I will say I spent a significant amount of time in a tunnel, but I learned a lot, and it was kind of one of those things that you learn in school, and you can see how it applies out into the forest.
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That's the greatest thing in the world.
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Oh, no. Flying in a tunnel is like one of the funnest things to do.
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Well played. Well played. Just relax. Well played. I understand that.
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We've come a lot farther than that nowadays. Thank God. Just imagine that.
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You can see the natural curvature of the earth as you kind of cut them out.
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I think it was three weeks. It was three weeks, somewhere around there. Did you go to sniper school too? I did not.
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I did not.
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So I came in the army in 1984. So I've been in about right over right about 30 years. It's a pretty exciting time. Was that the year you were born? Yeah. It sure was. Yeah, so came in the Army in 94, spent two years up at the 10th Mountain Division in the cold, cold, two or three years up there as a private. I actually think back very fondly on those times.
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I think Vern was in here a little bit earlier. Coming out of Alaska, Fort Drum, New York is a little bit different. It's really, really cold, but it's a lot of snow. And I learned a lot of things as a young private that I still keep with me today. You know, keeping a dry pair of socks, always having something else to change into and, you know, taking care of your feet.
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We didn't have a bunch of stuff like helicopters or airplanes or trucks to get distracted by. Did a lot of walking as a private. And then for some reason, we either went to the Joint Readiness Training Center in the winter or we went down to Panama. So I had been on a couple trips down to Panama and experienced the jungle down there.
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It is 100% a lot better than the thick snow. But I mean, you learn a lot being in the snow.
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So I did not actually. So here's the pattern. Yeah, yeah. So I have like a kind of a awkward story. I was grew up in a small town called Hawthorne, Nevada, and only had about 3000 people. And we had to go like to Reno, Nevada to go to the recruiters. And I had always said I was going to go join the Marines, went up to go join the Marines. And
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like shook on the door and shook on the door and it was closed and i was like what the heck so i kind of like went next door to the army guy he goes hey come on in here i got something for you and i'm like no i'm waiting on the marine he goes no just come in and have a seat and we'll sit down and talk and about three weeks later i was in the army down there for benning georgia totally sniped you from the marine yeah yeah so the army crew recruited putting chains around absolutely you can't get in so close i'm on the i was wholeheartedly going in the marines but
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Yeah, well, here I am, 30 years later, still in the Army.
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So I do work in ASALT, Army acquisitions and logistics and technology. So we buy and modernize major programs in the Army for the Department of Defense to – A, be ready for the next fight and deter our nation's enemies in preparation for war.
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It's not. It is really buying tanks, buying the next generation tanks, looking at helicopters and the next generation of helicopters, buying the next generation of rifles, buying the next generation of goggles.
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So, it is more of acquisition. We do a part of development of current and existing programs. So, the M1 tank, we do incremental improvements on the M1 tank that is, you know, advancements in technology.
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Jay Garza, the sergeant that was right before me, they do kind of the research and looking at future requirements, and we do the buying of those requirements, my boss being the Army Acquisition Authority for us.
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I didn't piss off anybody. That you know of. I don't think I pissed off anybody.
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Hold on, hold on. I'm a people person. People like me. They like to talk.
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Actually, that's kind of a joke because I'm usually pretty introverted. So I'm not sure how I got to go last and how I ended up down here today. You know what I mean?
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That is exactly it. So they're like, hey, he can't do much harm. He's going last.
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Yeah, I think you have to look at it in drone warfare as an evolving technology and, you know, it's a layered approach. You know, I think we have things that are going to hit them pretty far out. We have, you know, some capabilities that are EW that are pretty far out. And then as they get closer, it becomes a little more kinetic to be able to shoot them.
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And then if you think about your last line of defense being a shotgun, that's something where either that's pretty imminent or that you can see it right there.
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100%. Like, I mean, we've had shotguns and what better, you know, reach door, shoot down small UAS that's sitting there bothering me and I can't get to it. So I do think it's the gambit of counter UAS that we're actually taking a look at. And, you know, I think soldier innovation plays a lot into it.
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You know, you give some kid from Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania, a shotgun and he's like, well, hell no. There is a dang UAS.
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So I do think, you know, and especially in my realm now, soldier innovation plays a lot into it to solve problems throughout the Army because it's not always the engineer that's out there that's going to fix those problems. So a lot of soldier touch points, a lot of feedback from the force, a lot of feedback from industry, and, you know, that's how we're developing the force of the future. Nice.
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You're the new porch pirate? Is that what you're doing?
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I think somebody's got a place for you.
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Because you've got to have some fun stuff. Yeah, so I think some of the best equipment that I've ever used has probably been – Just rifles in general. I like shooting. I like going out to the range. I like being able to get out. I like the new pistol that we've brought around. The M17? Yeah, the M17.
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No, no, no, no, no. If I had to go. I like the new M17 pistol. I did take a trip up to the manufacturing factory a couple weeks ago, and it's amazing how well they're being put together. The next generation rifle, the 6.8 is... I was just going to ask what you thought about that. I think it's a big leap forward in actual ballistics.
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And again, now we're probably going to get blasted by like 30 other people. But I think it's a big leap forward in ballistics and the kinetic transfer of energy. And I think really as we bring that forward,
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new weapon into the army i think we're going to have increases in lethality across the army and increases in the family of uh weapon sites that are that are attached to that are going to be a big move forward so whole ngsw program was very very interesting to watch from the outside i agree with you on the ballistics the gun i'm more concerned about
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But I really like the new rifle. And I think we are taking that kind of the 10X jump forward. And I think a lot of that is what we have to do now. We're in a time where we can develop, where we can make advancements and start fielding and trying new equipment. I do appreciate the Chief and the SMA's movement forward with Transforming Contact where we're experimenting.
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And we're getting new equipment into soldiers' hands and letting them kind of tell us what's going on in the Army and what's working and what's not working. And then here in a while, we'll slap the table and move forward to the continuous transformation and pick some things and start moving out on them for further development.
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Have not.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I know I have knowledge of it, but I think it's currently a program that's being looked at.
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I did not.
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Super flat. Dude, super flat. It's subsonic too.
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Oh, I have not.
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Where the heck were you guys at? Were you hunting the water Buffalo?
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He goes up to the South Africa. Not trying to get you in trouble.
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I mean, do you guys got any other questions? I do have to get off.
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I actually have to go back up. And Jay Garza, the guy who was before me, we had a meeting to go to to talk about what we just experienced over there at JMRC over there in Hohensfeld, Germany. And we're getting ready to brief a couple other guys. senior leaders in the Army, but I really appreciate you guys' time today and appreciate all you're doing.
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You know, I think, you know, venues like this and to keep the message out there and to keep kind of what's going on across the Army is a great venue for us as senior leaders to get that out there. So thanks for all you do.
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Thank you. Appreciate your time, sir. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Thank you.
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Get over here.
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I don't believe so.
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Yeah.