Olly Headey

how hard can that be and there's lots of advantages and because we've been bought by a bank they they were um they were kind of big on on the cloud as well and they also had quite a lot of leverage with aws in terms of like costs and stuff so we could kind of piggyback on some of that so all of that coming together uh really helped um and yeah it was It was a good move for us, I think.

how hard can that be and there's lots of advantages and because we've been bought by a bank they they were um they were kind of big on on the cloud as well and they also had quite a lot of leverage with aws in terms of like costs and stuff so we could kind of piggyback on some of that so all of that coming together uh really helped um and yeah it was It was a good move for us, I think.

I mean, cost-wise, very hard to compare. I mean, maybe it's more expensive. I mean, it's apples and oranges, really, when you're trying to compare these costs.

I mean, cost-wise, very hard to compare. I mean, maybe it's more expensive. I mean, it's apples and oranges, really, when you're trying to compare these costs.

But, you know, the ops team getting into kind of the infrastructure automation, infrastructure as code, which we already did, but we were using Popit and other technologies that, you know, kind of moved over to Terraform and all of this, which was much more People wanted to work with this stuff, right? It was kind of like reasonably new hot tech that people wanted to do.

But, you know, the ops team getting into kind of the infrastructure automation, infrastructure as code, which we already did, but we were using Popit and other technologies that, you know, kind of moved over to Terraform and all of this, which was much more People wanted to work with this stuff, right? It was kind of like reasonably new hot tech that people wanted to do.

And so, yeah, it was actually a pretty good move, I think. But I do kind of miss the power that you get from your own hardware. It's got to be said. Some of these databases on like Aurora and you get these kind of, I don't even know what they're called, you know, the XXLs or whatever.

And so, yeah, it was actually a pretty good move, I think. But I do kind of miss the power that you get from your own hardware. It's got to be said. Some of these databases on like Aurora and you get these kind of, I don't even know what they're called, you know, the XXLs or whatever.

crazy prices really to be honest but you know as long as you can afford it and it's you know it fits within your budget and what you want you're willing to pay in terms of you know your margins then it's fine but if you're trying to squeeze you know squeeze the margins improve things then sure but we were optimizing really for a big engineering team we had 100 plus people

crazy prices really to be honest but you know as long as you can afford it and it's you know it fits within your budget and what you want you're willing to pay in terms of you know your margins then it's fine but if you're trying to squeeze you know squeeze the margins improve things then sure but we were optimizing really for a big engineering team we had 100 plus people

not a very big ops team, and we only had about five people doing all of that, which was about half the size of 37signals. So yeah, I think that answers your question. Bit of a ramble.

not a very big ops team, and we only had about five people doing all of that, which was about half the size of 37signals. So yeah, I think that answers your question. Bit of a ramble.

um yeah i mean i hadn't i didn't intend to do that because i knew i was leaving free agent um and at the time there were a couple of guys that had worked at free agent um that had gone there they'd gone they joined in like the summer of that year 21. um and you know absolutely in touch with these guys really great great programmers um you know fantastic people um

um yeah i mean i hadn't i didn't intend to do that because i knew i was leaving free agent um and at the time there were a couple of guys that had worked at free agent um that had gone there they'd gone they joined in like the summer of that year 21. um and you know absolutely in touch with these guys really great great programmers um you know fantastic people um

And at the time, they were looking for a director of engineering. And I think one of these guys said, we should talk to Ollie. He's leaving Frasier. Maybe he'd be interested. And so it was kind of like a recommendation that happened.

And at the time, they were looking for a director of engineering. And I think one of these guys said, we should talk to Ollie. He's leaving Frasier. Maybe he'd be interested. And so it was kind of like a recommendation that happened.

you know i got the i got a call from david and said do you want to chat about this and you know one one thing led to another and i was like this sounds pretty cool and and um because quite a few people from free agent when i when i then joined i joined in march 22 um by that point they'd hired about i think there was five people that were programmers and free agents.

you know i got the i got a call from david and said do you want to chat about this and you know one one thing led to another and i was like this sounds pretty cool and and um because quite a few people from free agent when i when i then joined i joined in march 22 um by that point they'd hired about i think there was five people that were programmers and free agents.

It felt a bit like getting the gang back together again. I thought this would be quite cool. I can go and work with these guys who are amazing and get to work with 37 Singles. That sounds brilliant.

It felt a bit like getting the gang back together again. I thought this would be quite cool. I can go and work with these guys who are amazing and get to work with 37 Singles. That sounds brilliant.