Olly Headey

but then but then not really because you know i think it for me i felt like we'd almost built everything in it like every feature was kind of done in my mind like um it did everything from like time tracking all the way through to kind of filing your tax returns uh automatically but at that point it's like we kind of you know felt like it was kind of done that's what we set out to do back in the day and you know i thought we'd never get there but we did um

but then but then not really because you know i think it for me i felt like we'd almost built everything in it like every feature was kind of done in my mind like um it did everything from like time tracking all the way through to kind of filing your tax returns uh automatically but at that point it's like we kind of you know felt like it was kind of done that's what we set out to do back in the day and you know i thought we'd never get there but we did um

The last thing we did was this massive migration of the infrastructure to the cloud. None of this cool move out of the cloud. We'd run the whole thing on servers, our own servers, for years. Then in 2020, we moved to the cloud, AWS. That was a big thing. For us, it was a good thing. Once that was done, I was like, yeah, I think I'm I think I'm kind of done here. But I do miss it.

The last thing we did was this massive migration of the infrastructure to the cloud. None of this cool move out of the cloud. We'd run the whole thing on servers, our own servers, for years. Then in 2020, we moved to the cloud, AWS. That was a big thing. For us, it was a good thing. Once that was done, I was like, yeah, I think I'm I think I'm kind of done here. But I do miss it.

I still use it as well because I do my own kind of consulting thing now and again and I'm still used to it. I'm in there quite often. It's good.

I still use it as well because I do my own kind of consulting thing now and again and I'm still used to it. I'm in there quite often. It's good.

Yeah. It is a good question. I mean, I guess for a start, I am a big fan of running your own hardware in in many ways because you know that that's what we started doing it was kind of the only option back in 2006 2007 i mean you know we just rented a server from rackspace and that was kind of that and you know and we did use there was all these cloud 82 sort of existed but um

Yeah. It is a good question. I mean, I guess for a start, I am a big fan of running your own hardware in in many ways because you know that that's what we started doing it was kind of the only option back in 2006 2007 i mean you know we just rented a server from rackspace and that was kind of that and you know and we did use there was all these cloud 82 sort of existed but um

early days, you know, it wasn't much tooling around that. And there were things like flight hosts and these other cloud bright box, a few of these things that we did play around with just for staging servers playing around, but the actual app ran on it, run its own hardware. And we did at one point Rackspace had a cloud and because we were Rackspace, we were like, let's use that.

early days, you know, it wasn't much tooling around that. And there were things like flight hosts and these other cloud bright box, a few of these things that we did play around with just for staging servers playing around, but the actual app ran on it, run its own hardware. And we did at one point Rackspace had a cloud and because we were Rackspace, we were like, let's use that.

This would be great. And we found it really flaky. It was pretty unreliable for us. And we lost a bit of trust. And then, you know, one of the guys that we had on the team was just great at building servers and stuff, networking and whatnot. So we just decided, well, let's just do it. And we just bought some hardware and racked it up and did all that. And that's how it ran for...

This would be great. And we found it really flaky. It was pretty unreliable for us. And we lost a bit of trust. And then, you know, one of the guys that we had on the team was just great at building servers and stuff, networking and whatnot. So we just decided, well, let's just do it. And we just bought some hardware and racked it up and did all that. And that's how it ran for...

well what would that be about nine years um but i suppose one of the big drivers was the tech we were using um was kind of niche we were using towards the end uh smart os which you may or may not have heard of i i don't know not many people have heard of it so which is basically like uh ultimately it's solaris but it's uh

well what would that be about nine years um but i suppose one of the big drivers was the tech we were using um was kind of niche we were using towards the end uh smart os which you may or may not have heard of i i don't know not many people have heard of it so which is basically like uh ultimately it's solaris but it's uh

an alumos um and we were using triton to do um containerization and all of this but it wasn't docker it wasn't linux it was it was kind of niche worked really well but actually The ops team, we struggled to hire people to do it for that reason, and also didn't necessarily want to do it as well, most people. So it was a little bit troublesome.

an alumos um and we were using triton to do um containerization and all of this but it wasn't docker it wasn't linux it was it was kind of niche worked really well but actually The ops team, we struggled to hire people to do it for that reason, and also didn't necessarily want to do it as well, most people. So it was a little bit troublesome.

And obviously the cloud had come a long way, which we were already using. We already were using S3, like all the receipts, everything that you can upload to free agents, all in S3. And that was always the case, because you don't want to be getting into object storage yourself, really. And we'd already, we were starting to do some data science stuff in AWS.

And obviously the cloud had come a long way, which we were already using. We already were using S3, like all the receipts, everything that you can upload to free agents, all in S3. And that was always the case, because you don't want to be getting into object storage yourself, really. And we'd already, we were starting to do some data science stuff in AWS.

And so, you know, a lot of that stuff, it kind of made sense to us. Well, let's just think about moving the app over how, you know,

And so, you know, a lot of that stuff, it kind of made sense to us. Well, let's just think about moving the app over how, you know,