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Norma Kamali

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234 total appearances

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Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

He had three brothers and a sister. He was the youngest. He went to boarding school in England, and then he came to the U.S. and was going to Columbia. And He was very Western because he spent more time outside of Iran than he actually did in Iran. I love to dance, which is why I keep mentioning clubs, because at that point in my life, no matter what was going on, I was going out dancing.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

He had three brothers and a sister. He was the youngest. He went to boarding school in England, and then he came to the U.S. and was going to Columbia. And He was very Western because he spent more time outside of Iran than he actually did in Iran. I love to dance, which is why I keep mentioning clubs, because at that point in my life, no matter what was going on, I was going out dancing.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

That was it. And I might add, I'd never taken, I still have not taken a drug. I don't drink alcohol. And I would just dance and drink water and be happier than anybody. So there was a friend of mine was the first person

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

That was it. And I might add, I'd never taken, I still have not taken a drug. I don't drink alcohol. And I would just dance and drink water and be happier than anybody. So there was a friend of mine was the first person

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

DJ to ever play records in a club and it was a small club and he invited me he said I'm gonna be playing records at this club and there's dancing and I said records you know like records really you're gonna do that and he said yes it's gonna be great so of course I went and And there was dance contests were very popular then. So they were having a dance contest.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

DJ to ever play records in a club and it was a small club and he invited me he said I'm gonna be playing records at this club and there's dancing and I said records you know like records really you're gonna do that and he said yes it's gonna be great so of course I went and And there was dance contests were very popular then. So they were having a dance contest.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And he said to me, I know you can win this dance contest. And I have a guy that you will dance with. And the two of you will win the dance contest. I said, cool. How much? He said, $500. I said, okay, let's do it. So he introduced me to Eddie, which is the name everybody used for dance. Eddie Kamali. And we never danced together.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And he said to me, I know you can win this dance contest. And I have a guy that you will dance with. And the two of you will win the dance contest. I said, cool. How much? He said, $500. I said, okay, let's do it. So he introduced me to Eddie, which is the name everybody used for dance. Eddie Kamali. And we never danced together.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And we just started dancing and then we were like, okay, we got this. And we won. So this was now a reason for us to be together. And of course, get married. And he was a student and trying to get through college. And of course, there was a lot of the disruption now is starting in Iran. And there are these two factions of Iranian students, some pro-Shah, some anti-Shah.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And we just started dancing and then we were like, okay, we got this. And we won. So this was now a reason for us to be together. And of course, get married. And he was a student and trying to get through college. And of course, there was a lot of the disruption now is starting in Iran. And there are these two factions of Iranian students, some pro-Shah, some anti-Shah.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

So there was a lot of turmoil going on. But there was also a lot of drugs and a lot of partying and all of that. And what happened was our paths started going in different directions. And the more successful the business was, the less I wanted to go out and dance, because I was sewing till 3 in the morning. And I much preferred to do that than to dance.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

So there was a lot of turmoil going on. But there was also a lot of drugs and a lot of partying and all of that. And what happened was our paths started going in different directions. And the more successful the business was, the less I wanted to go out and dance, because I was sewing till 3 in the morning. And I much preferred to do that than to dance.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

I mean, I still love to dance, but you end up with different priorities. And he still wanted to dance and continued to do so. And we just really had different priorities. And I believe strongly that my determination and the recognition, nobody knew me because he was in the store and I was always in the sample room. Nobody knew what I looked like. They didn't know anything about me, really.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

I mean, I still love to dance, but you end up with different priorities. And he still wanted to dance and continued to do so. And we just really had different priorities. And I believe strongly that my determination and the recognition, nobody knew me because he was in the store and I was always in the sample room. Nobody knew what I looked like. They didn't know anything about me, really.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

So I think what happened was he started to be more social and I started to become more and more involved in designing and learning how to make patterns, learning how to run a company. And I was just so thrilled by the fact that I could see who I was supposed to be and what that meant.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

So I think what happened was he started to be more social and I started to become more and more involved in designing and learning how to make patterns, learning how to run a company. And I was just so thrilled by the fact that I could see who I was supposed to be and what that meant.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And I'd say, oh my God, Eddie. How could you do that? And he'd say, because it's worth $2,000. And of course, he'd take the skirt into the store and sell it in about 20 minutes. And he was a very big advocate for what I was doing until I think he felt my independence. might be a problem for him. And so he controlled the money, which is what men did at the time.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And I'd say, oh my God, Eddie. How could you do that? And he'd say, because it's worth $2,000. And of course, he'd take the skirt into the store and sell it in about 20 minutes. And he was a very big advocate for what I was doing until I think he felt my independence. might be a problem for him. And so he controlled the money, which is what men did at the time.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

Men controlled the money, men ran businesses, women didn't do that, right? And so I believed that too. And then finally, I think because he'd been dating the sales girl and I'd fired her several times and he rehired her several times. And when she came in to tell me that she was going to start designing and she had some ideas of what she wanted to design, I said, oh, okay.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

Men controlled the money, men ran businesses, women didn't do that, right? And so I believed that too. And then finally, I think because he'd been dating the sales girl and I'd fired her several times and he rehired her several times. And when she came in to tell me that she was going to start designing and she had some ideas of what she wanted to design, I said, oh, okay.