Norma Kamali

And it made an impression on me. And I really appreciate that she was so honest with me about the importance of being able to support myself and be independent at the same time.

And it made an impression on me. And I really appreciate that she was so honest with me about the importance of being able to support myself and be independent at the same time.

It was the role that... You raise a family. And now, when I was 11, it was 1956. So put us in context of that time. Nobody had TVs, very few people, and not everybody had telephones. I mean, it's an incredible thing to think of. And my mother is talking to me about being an independent woman. So... Really, we are talking about somebody who is very unique.

It was the role that... You raise a family. And now, when I was 11, it was 1956. So put us in context of that time. Nobody had TVs, very few people, and not everybody had telephones. I mean, it's an incredible thing to think of. And my mother is talking to me about being an independent woman. So... Really, we are talking about somebody who is very unique.

And like I said, I didn't know what she was talking about until later on where I could appreciate.

And like I said, I didn't know what she was talking about until later on where I could appreciate.

I think fear and anxiety is a modern phenomena. I think people can be afraid of the dark and of ghosts and of things they don't know in my world in growing up. But the word anxiety... You don't even use that word in an Irish Catholic neighborhood. You're like, what the hell is wrong with you? These are words that are very self-indulgent if you come from the childhood I came from.

I think fear and anxiety is a modern phenomena. I think people can be afraid of the dark and of ghosts and of things they don't know in my world in growing up. But the word anxiety... You don't even use that word in an Irish Catholic neighborhood. You're like, what the hell is wrong with you? These are words that are very self-indulgent if you come from the childhood I came from.

You would just think, what is wrong with you? Get over it. And you got over it. And most people got over it. And if you didn't, nobody would attribute it to all of the things we think about now. And I'm wondering if maybe some of that isn't a bad idea because you learn survival skills. And you learn things about yourself when you have to just deal with it. Just deal with it.

You would just think, what is wrong with you? Get over it. And you got over it. And most people got over it. And if you didn't, nobody would attribute it to all of the things we think about now. And I'm wondering if maybe some of that isn't a bad idea because you learn survival skills. And you learn things about yourself when you have to just deal with it. Just deal with it.

Nobody would say, and nobody would complain about it. If you complained, you were like, shut up.

Nobody would say, and nobody would complain about it. If you complained, you were like, shut up.

So I think the fears, of course, my mother probably, as an adult, had more concerns because could she afford to support two children and have what we needed, not anything more, but just to make sure we had what we needed. We also had a great neighborhood where everybody took care of everyone else. The community idea was very important.

So I think the fears, of course, my mother probably, as an adult, had more concerns because could she afford to support two children and have what we needed, not anything more, but just to make sure we had what we needed. We also had a great neighborhood where everybody took care of everyone else. The community idea was very important.

In an Irish neighborhood, there's usually five to ten kids per family. So there was such a camaraderie and community and friendship. one big family, really. We went to camp together. We did everything together. And if my mother wasn't home, somebody else's mother would make sure we had something to eat when we came home from school. My mother would do the same for somebody else's kids.

In an Irish neighborhood, there's usually five to ten kids per family. So there was such a camaraderie and community and friendship. one big family, really. We went to camp together. We did everything together. And if my mother wasn't home, somebody else's mother would make sure we had something to eat when we came home from school. My mother would do the same for somebody else's kids.

So New York was an extraordinary place to grow up on the streets, learning about life. And really, I have to say, even though I didn't have a lavish sort of childhood where you had everything you could imagine. We had very little, but we had such a close, bonded family of a community that you can't

So New York was an extraordinary place to grow up on the streets, learning about life. And really, I have to say, even though I didn't have a lavish sort of childhood where you had everything you could imagine. We had very little, but we had such a close, bonded family of a community that you can't

Imagine the talk about the strength in that and that you always felt protected by the numbers of people that were looking out for you.

Imagine the talk about the strength in that and that you always felt protected by the numbers of people that were looking out for you.