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The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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Yeah, no, good to be back with you, Dan, and looking forward to the conversation.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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That's right. No, I mean... It is a new day in America. What is this? Happy Liberation Day number three or four. He hit the ground running and made it very clear with his executive orders. I mean, I kind of put them in three different buckets, Dan. One was obviously the idea of border immigration slash citizenship. The other one was energy. And then the last one was administrative state.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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I loved all of the executive orders except for the TikTok one. Well, I'm not going to quibble. We can't be perfect, but we can be pretty close to perfect. And I think one of the fundamental issues that you just brought up If you don't have an enforceable border, you don't have sovereignty, you don't even really have citizenship.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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And I think the whole idea of what does it actually mean to be a citizen, whether it's this whole question mark about birthright citizenship or people coming in illegally and then having all the benefits in many ways of American citizens, what does it actually mean to be an American citizen moving forward? And I think Trump has realized that.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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Obviously, it's been a big issue for him on the idea of border and immigration. And I think this whole idea of birthright citizenship is going to bring up the debate. What does it actually mean to be an American citizen? We are not an economic zone. We are very unique people with a very unique culture, with a very unique constitution and a constitutional republic.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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And so we have to have the conversation about what does it actually mean to be a citizen of this country? And this is, again, one of those issues, birthright citizenship.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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Well, that's I mean, this is I mean, I've had this conversation with him in the past. Like you have four years. It doesn't matter. You're not going for reelection. Let's make this the most epic four years we've ever seen, at least in recent times, maybe for generations, for this country.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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And let's have these big fundamental questions about, obviously, border immigration citizenship, obviously the future of this country in regards to energy independence and all of these things. But also, I couldn't tell which one I loved the most in the executive orders dealing with the administrative state. But let's have the conversation about the legitimacy of that.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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And the thing that has been very apparent to me and very unique about Donald Trump among recent Republican presidents is that he has rejected the premise that what we have in our current form of governance in an administrative state is not legitimate. He rejects the premise. and he's calling into question with these executive orders, you are not legitimate. You do not decide.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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You do not set policy. The head of the Article II executive branch, the duly elected president, that'd be Trump, I'm the one who decides the policies, and your job and your responsibility is to actually implement those policies and to work for the benefit of the American people.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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I mean, his one, not to get too into the weeds here, Dan, but his executive order on the SES types, the Senior Executive Service Officials, Amazing. And for those that are listening that are maybe not as aware, you have all the political appointees, the secretaries, the undersecretaries, all the political appointments. Then you've got the federal employees.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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In between the political appointments and the federal employees is the SES level. It's a very powerful government official. And they manage, I think it's about 75 federal agencies. And they, again, Dan, they think they decide. They think they govern. They think they set policy. And for him to directly address the SES level on day one in an executive order, amazing. Absolutely incredible.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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But the point I want to make to those listening is the fact that the progressives, when they started this administrative state, these SES types, and I would argue GS-14s and 15s, they have been operating under the entire premise of the administrative state, which is the unelected bureaucrats are the ones who are supposed to govern. They're the ones who are supposed to decide.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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It has nothing to do with the Constitutional Republic. And again, it goes back to those fundamental issues I was talking about.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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Donald Trump understands there are fundamental issues that have to be addressed for the good of the country now, but also for the future of the country, what we will look like as a people, what we will look like as citizens, will we be energy independent, which is a national security issue, and what form of governance will we actually have? Will we return to a republic?

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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Are we gonna continue down this administrative state path? I mean, that's the thing that I hope people did not lose in those executive orders, And dealing with obviously very current issues, but fundamental at the very basis for who we are as a people, who we are as a country, what our future looks like. And honestly, except for the TikTok thing, I couldn't be happier with what he did.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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Yeah, American Leviathan is the birth of the administrative state and progressive authoritarianism.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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really about the rise at the turn of the 20th century of these progressives rejecting our Constitutional Republic, rejecting and breaking apart the machinery of the Republic, which is the diffusion of power, and then building out this massive bureaucracy, administrative state filled with unelected bureaucrats, who really they viewed as a vehicle for salvation.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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And they viewed the bureaucrats as the ones, even though they were unelected, as the ones who should be doing the actual governing, And then you find yourself in the 21st century going, why do these unelected bureaucrats think they decide? Why do they think they can take out the duly elected president of the United States?

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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And you realize this tension is between two very different governing philosophies. So I try to make it a very concise discussion. explanation of where it began, how we got here and then how we get out of it. So American Leviathan. And I appreciate the great Dan Bongino blurbing the book for me.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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But having some conversations with current elected officials and members of Congress, it's even worse than you think, Ned. There are lots of members of Congress who think they should take, they ask these different departments and agencies, what money do you need? They take them at face value.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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They think their job and responsibilities then pass through, be a pass through to give these agencies and departments whatever they want. They pass these four and 5,000 page bills that are kind of roughly frame out kind of generally what they want. They send it to these unelected bureaucrats in the article two branch where most of the administrative state resides.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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And these bureaucrats put the fine points with statutes and regulations on these bills, and that's the actual governing. So Congress has not only capitulated in oversight because they just give them the funding that they want, they've also capitulated on the idea of legislating.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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I mean, the Article I branch has, of their own volition over decades, given these Article II bureaucrats the right to govern this country. And I think this is, again, one of the fundamental issues where you've got to get back to there's an Article I branch, there's an Article II branch, there's an Article III branch, because the founders got something very right, Dan.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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They did not trust human nature. They did not trust human nature to have consolidated power. And the whole idea was diffusion of power so that it would never be abused. And what the bureaucrats and the administrative state have been doing and trying to do for the last 100 years –

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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It's consolidate the legislative, executive, and judicial into one branch, into their bureaucracy to be able to do everything that they want with not a whole lot of oversight and then dictate to the American people, this is how you're going to live your lives. And that's why I say it's progressive authoritarianism.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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Yeah, I was just going to say, you took the words out of my mouth. I mean, Donald Trump's approach to life has been, why not? Why can't I do that? Why can't we do that? Why shouldn't we be doing that? And that to me is precisely what we need at this point in our history. It's a singular moment. The man for the hour is Donald Trump.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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And I think it's his entire approach of, we shouldn't accept anything. We should be asking, why not? And I'll just say this, Dan. My greatest part about Donald Trump is this. He truly believes decline is a choice. We choose not to decline. We choose to be great and climb to even greater heights of freedom and prosperity. And that, to me, is what America needs at this moment.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with President Donald Trump and Tim Burchett, Dr. Ronny Jackson and Ned Ryun

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We choose not to decline. We choose to be great. And we choose to climb to even greater heights of freedom and prosperity. And the guy that I think is going to do it and hopefully instill a lot of courage into Republicans on the Hill is Donald J. Trump.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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Absolutely, Dan. Good to be with you again.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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Yeah, no, 100 percent. I think we've gotten to such a level of distrust, especially in the last couple of years after the covid debacle. That's I think the first reaction should be, no, we don't trust you. But then can you prove it? And again, I think we should be highly skeptical of any statements coming out of the government. and say, no, I don't believe you, then can you prove it?

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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But you're right. I think we're left with two conclusions. Like you just said, either they do know and are lying to us, which I think is a perfectly acceptable explanation, or it could be, Dan, and I think there's some merit to it, maybe they are so incompetent

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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that they really don't know what's going on because they've been focused on all kinds of weird DEI crap and have incompetent people running our government that we are left with complete and wild incompetence. So I think either one of those two are plausible. I will say I lean towards they probably do know what's going on.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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They're lying through their teeth to us and don't want to tell us the truth of what's actually taking place with these drones.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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Well, so there's two things at issue here. One, it does show you how things can go very badly, very quickly with the wrong leadership. Think about how bad the last four years have gone with wildly incompetent leadership. But also at the same time, I think our government, I mean, this is a longer conversation.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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It's one of the reasons I wrote my new book, American Leviathan, but it is filled with not so-called experts, but a credentialed idiocracy. And when it really does come time to actually serve the American people, They do not have the skill sets, nor, by the way, are the American people a priority. And then you get into these situations, and you're like, what are we even doing here?

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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I mean, we are literally spending ungodly sums of money on this form of government that we have today. And I don't think it even wants to prioritize the American people. But even if it did, it's incapable of doing so because of – who it's filled with, what its focus is.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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But I'm telling you right now, Dan, you and I both know, having been around DC for a long time and having witnessed some stuff up close. This form of government is so wildly incompetent. It doesn't serve the American people. We need to have a conversation about what it looks like moving forward.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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And that's why I'm thrilled that Trump is actually talking about Department of Government Efficiency and Elon and the vague, you know, taking a hard look at what's going on in D.C. But I have to tell you. I don't want them to trim it or make it more efficient.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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I want them to shatter it into a million pieces and go, let's have a conversation about what form of government we have moving forward that actually serves the American people, that protects our interests both on the foreign and domestic front.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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Yeah, no, I mean, this has been built. So we've got to be realistic, Dan. This is the one thing that I'm a little concerned about. And again, I don't know as much about what they're planning, but this has been 100 years in the making. We're not going to get out of it in 18 months. So I want to have a conversation about not dealing with the effects, but the cause. I mean, this is a poisonous tree.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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I would argue that what we have in D.C. today, the administrative state, has nothing to do with how we are founded, has nothing to do with representing the American people. We need to annihilate it. We don't need to trim it. We need to crush it. And so you're right.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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And the other thing you mentioned too, Facebook, this to me is one of my biggest – one of the biggest problems I have today with a lot of people that are on the so-called right where they don't want to go after private corporations, but the left has figured out something that I think –

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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They've been using these corporations to their benefit in which they don't want to make a full-on assault against our Bill of Rights, against our natural inherent rights. So they backdoor this annihilation of the freedom of speech, the free flow of information by using these private corporations like Facebook and, again, before Elon bought X, Twitter, all these things to censor us.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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to crush freedom of speech, to annihilate our natural rights. I mean, we have a whole host of fundamental problems, you know, the very root of which, do we want a government of, by and for the people, or are we going to go ahead and continue to put up with this massive sprawling bureaucracy?

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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That's first of all, crushing the life out of us, not only our rights, but just soaking us for cash and then figure out what does this look like moving forward? I think we're in a singular moment.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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Dan, where I think if you have a person with the right political courage, that's Donald Trump, with the right team around him, I think we could have a very interesting next four years about having that conversation about what should our government look like? What should it be doing? What should it not be doing? What should it be prioritizing?

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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So I think we're in for a very interesting next four years.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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But more importantly, Dan, I think you've got somebody for the first time in a long time who – one of my biggest pet peeves with Republicans is when the people give them political power, they don't know what to do with the political power. They don't want to use the political power to actually enforce their will and say we're going to have massive structural change.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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We're not going to trim – we're not going to shave the elephant. We're going to actually kill the elephant. Donald Trump has political power, and I think this time around he knows exactly what to do with it.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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He's a change agent, and the thing that I'm hoping, and I'm seeing positive trends on these nominees, that he'll get his change agents in the various departments and agencies, because I think the Republican senators are kind of realizing, yeah, we better play along here and give him his nominees, or else some of these red state senators who are up in 26 might find themselves with very legitimate primary challenges, which I would totally applaud.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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This was a line in the sand. I mean, to me, it was about Pete. You know him. I know him. He's going to bring the change necessary, Department of Defense. But it was about more than Pete. This was, you are not going to do this again, because I was afraid it would be a domino effect, right? Take out Gates, take out Hegseth, and then we'll take out the next one. Right.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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then you've got this this total quagmire that's why i was you know first of all because i know pete but the second one was you're not going to do this you're going to get the memo he won quite frankly you have a majority in the senate because trump won uh we have a majority in the house because of trump um why don't you actually fall in line the american people want change he has appointed he has nominated these people

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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You know, hopefully you'll get the memo. I think they have. I mean, I've been talking with some people that are very much involved in the process, you know, very close to the nominees, some of the nominees. They really have sensed the tide turning in the last few days. to the point where I feel really good about Pete. I feel really good about Cash.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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You know, I think there's probably going to be some fighting still that's going to take place, you know, down the road with other nominees. But I really do think we have seen a really positive trend in the last few days because you're right. A lot of us, you, me, others decided, nope, you're not going to do this. We know what you want. We know what you're trying to do. You don't get status quo.

The Dan Bongino Show

Sunday Special with Michael Franzese, Jeff Van Drew, Ned Ryun, Andrew Gruel 12/22/24

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We're not going to do this anymore. Donald Trump won. Donald Trump should get his nominees.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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I mean, if that's all... I'm going to be disappointed if that's all we get, but if that's all we get, that's a serious step in the right direction.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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You're going to call her a bad person. Really? The corporation, the corporate lobbyists and all of these various interests have way too much say in how a senator actually or congressman actually operates instead of the people that actually voted them into office.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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And you and I both know this because the lobbyists are in there every day pressuring, making sure there's a lot of money coming in for the reelection campaign so they can get reelected. The idea of self-preservation. It's a pretty, I mean, there's a whole host of things wrong with our system today, but this is one of them. The bell that rings that they respond to is not the right bell.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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Can I start with immigration? Yeah. I mean, this is insane. I mean, we're seeing... What we've seen over the last four years, not only the wide open borders, we don't even really know who's come in. We know there's tens of millions of illegals that have come in, millions of getaways.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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This is what concerns me a little bit about the current Republican leadership in both the House and the Senate of... I wouldn't mind. Politically speaking, I want to make that very clear. Politically speaking, it's okay to break a few legs and just say this is the reality of what's going to happen.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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So this is a bigger frustration with the Republican Party. People give you power, political power, to use the political power to enact change. I think too many Republicans have come to D.C. and are like, isn't this a lovely experience? It's going to be a great career. We have a lot of careerists who are enjoying the fun career in D.C., And Democrats are like, by God, we have political power.

The Tucker Carlson Show

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We're going to break you to achieve what we want to achieve to fundamentally change and transform this country. They're religious zealots. And we're all sitting here going, oh, that's kind of mean. We probably shouldn't do that. If you have been given political power, you should freaking use the political power given to you by the American people.

The Tucker Carlson Show

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Or they might start to question, why did we give you political power in the first place? Because you don't know how to use it.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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I still don't understand why we haven't had a deeper conversation about the tens of thousands of Chinese national males that have come in over the southern border. Like, what the hell is going on with that? Whoever else has come in. At the same time, conversation about the fact that for four years they've been importing new voters.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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You know, the RNC is never going to be that, even though you would like the RNC.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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It doesn't even exist anymore. You and Charlie Kirk have replaced it. So I get it. We need a significant, and it's not minor, it's not tens of millions, right? You're talking with hundreds of millions every election cycle to have a proper enforcement mechanism of, you said you were going to do this, this is what the people voted for.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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If you do not toe the line on this, we will find a competent, credible primary candidate for you, and he or she will be well-funded, and we will crush you. That doesn't exist right now.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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Yes. And I would make the argument, one of the arguments I make in American Leviathan is... We're not really a constitutional republic anymore. Do you think? We got a shot at restoring it. The republic is at stake. Freedom is at stake. Liberty is at stake. The future of your kids, your grandkids, future generations is at stake. We are in a cold political war.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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We have been in a cold political war for decades with the un-American left. At some point, are you going to figure out the reality of what time it is, Republicans in DC, before it's too late?

The Tucker Carlson Show

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And if you understand where we're at in our nation's history and the singular moment that we have and what is at stake, I would hope they would find it somewhere within themselves to go to the mats and to fight with everything they have for their future, for their children's future, for their grandchildren's future,

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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and understand it might make you feel a little queasy in the moment, like this is really hardcore, we're using some pretty brutal tactics. Freedom, future of the country, there are a lot of things at stake. And not only for this country, For the world. I mean, think about who we are for the rest of the world. The United States. We are a beacon of hope. We are really the world's last great hope.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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I would hope that every Republican, regardless of where they are on the spectrum, because again, we know that not all Republicans are created equal, that even the Chamber of Commerce Republicans understand over the next four years for their own self-preservation, they should be wholeheartedly behind Donald Trump's deportation efforts.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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If we fall, there's nobody coming for us. That's for sure. There's absolutely no one that will come and save America if it falls.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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Even as we decline, we're even more important, I think, as the last free place. We have to think of the stakes not only for our country, but for the world as well. I agree. Dear God, find a backbone and understand we're...

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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if it's street style brawling tactics that are necessary to win, I think it's justified in doing that because for God's sake, they just tried to abuse our entire legal system and justice system to take out Donald Trump, quite frankly, others as well.

The Tucker Carlson Show

Ned Ryun on Who’s Planning to Sabotage Trump From Within, Is DOGE Too Ambitious, & the FBI’s Future

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Honestly, if they had won, I think they would have gone after some of us that are not in DC, but are considered somewhat prominent in the conservative movement. No, I told people, I told my staff, And I told others that I was working with this last year and, you know, pretty significant project.

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There is a sense of urgency coming from me specifically, and there should be urgency from other leaders of organizations because if they win again, the next people that are going to show trial and lawfare are us. So we better freaking win. And if we don't win, we've got problems. I don't think that's crazy at all. No, I don't.

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And I think we actually have to have that conversation about where these people on the left are. They're deeply un-American. They are antithetical to freedom. They're antithetical to liberty. If they had the political power to do whatever they wanted to us, I think they would. I don't think I'm overstating that at all.

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And so people have asked, how do you think we get back to normal with this un-American left in this country? And my argument to them has been, we beat them into political submission and send them into the political wilderness for generations. That's the only way you get back to normal.

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But you have to frame the entire, you have to build the entire conservative movement around political power with the right people, achieving political power, maintaining political power, and keeping it for long enough that you can actually achieve all the reform while putting them into the political wilderness. And I don't think we're actually organized or structured that way at all right now.

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I'm a great admirer of the left in regards to achieving political power and how they structure themselves and their how they have structured themselves to achieve political power for all the wrong reasons, all their policy ideas are terrible for this country, but they have, they have structured themselves to achieve that.

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We start with the hard criminals, we start with those illegals that have criminal records, and we keep right on going. and deporting all of the new Democratic voters that they've imported over the last four years for the sake of self-preservation. If you want to have a two-party system instead of a single-party state, the immigration has to be fixed.

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And in fact, I can, based off all the numbers and statistics I've seen, the left is in the minority in this country. And yet they have an undue influence in politics and the various institutions because they have structured themselves to achieve power in the institutions and politically in, how they've invested their time and money into doing that.

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We, on the other hand, I mean, I know some people love a good white paper and like some of the things that the think tanks do. We are not structured correctly to achieve and maintain political power. And I think that's one of the things

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that i hope that i can achieve over the next four five six seven eight years whatever however long it takes for people to understand if we do the right things in the field in the various states we can achieve and maintain political power for years to come but you actually have to be doing the right things

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What can they achieve? What will they achieve? What I hope they will achieve? I want Donald Trump. I'm not interested in trimming this government. I'm not interested in making it more efficient. I'm interested in shattering this administrative state into a million pieces.

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I think Donald Trump has figured out who the enemy is over the last, call it nine years, in which I think he truly showed up in D.C. January of 2017.

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as the duly elected representative, president of the American people, shows up in DC and goes, I'm the duly elected president, I get to decide a lot of the foreign and domestic policy, and ran into a system of government that said, yeah, we don't think so. We think we decide. And I think it was a startling moment for him when he realized,

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And I would argue to the point of if we do not have, if Donald Trump does not unleash Tom Holman and Stephen Miller to go all the way to actually deport everybody that is needed to be deported, to fix the southern border, It calls into question who we are as a country. I mean, this to me is one of the things that, again...

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I thought we were a constitutional republic, representative democracy. And then folks in D.C. are like, no, we're not really that. We're an administrative state. The unelected bureaucrats and their allies were the ones that actually decide these things. A lot of these things were settled years ago. Foreign policy, for example. This is the crazy part to me. Donald Trump's one of his great sins.

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was showing up and thinking, I want an election. People voted for change. One of them was different approach in foreign policy. So we're going to actually enact that. Like, no, we already settled that years ago. You don't get to decide that at all. It's already been decided by the smart people at the State Department, by like Victoria Nuland.

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And I think that for him was a moment where he realized we have a real problem. Then, of course, he became a target of his own government, the DOJ and the FBI and all these people trying to take out the duly elected president of the United States with fake FISA warrants and fake dossiers and all this stuff. And he realized we have a serious problem here.

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So leading up to now, and then the four years of lawfare in which... on the most spurious of charges. They literally I don't know the exact figure, but I have to guess it was hundreds of millions they soaked out of his campaign in regards to legal fees and not only like trying to destroy him as a person, but also just suck cash out of him. I think he's coming back

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this month and being sworn in for another term and fully understanding we have a form of government that is running this country that has nothing to do with the Constitutional Republic. So I hope, I sincerely hope that he understands who the enemy is, that he has to go at them. They've already declared war on him. This is not about him declaring war on the administrative state.

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They declared war on him years ago. And it's him responding in kind and going, we are not going to take this sitting down. And I hope on day one, I've got a few thoughts on this, I'm glad you asked, that he would go out and fire hundreds of thousands of federal employees day one, GS-12s, GS-13s, just pick out random names, fire them. Federal employee unions are gonna sue back, stays.

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They're gonna go back and forth through the courts to get to the Supreme Court, probably 18 months, two years, to ask a fundamental question. Does the head of the executive branch, the duly elected president of the United States, the Article II branch head, get to hire and fire whoever he wants to inside of this branch is the question, is it yes or no? And I would hope this Supreme Court says yes.

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And at that point, Donald Trump becomes the demolition man for the administrative state, because that's where most of the administrative state resides is inside the Article two branch, the executive branch of our government. Donald Trump goes for broke and he starts firing people

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My hope is that he's also told some of these new nominees that are going to be secretaries, you're going to go in and on day one announce, I'm Linda McMahon. I'm the new secretary of education. I'm going to be the last secretary of education because by the time I'm done here, we are going to shut down this department.

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And then on top of that, we're going to not only shut down this building, we're going to implode it. We're going to raise it to the ground and we're going to build freedom parks over this. I mean, that is the approach that has to be taken by Trump day one of going right at the administrative state. I'm not interested in making it more efficient. I'm not interested in cutting regulations.

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I'm not interested in cutting spending. Those are all an effect. The cause is the state. You have to shatter it into a million pieces. So that's my biggest hope. And I think he actually has the moral and political courage to actually do that. My hope and prayer, quite frankly, is that all of his various nominees have the exact same political and moral courage to do the same thing.

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Because that is the issue. I'm telling you, Tucker, every issue that we are experiencing today in this country, in D.C. specifically, but in some ways in other aspects of the country, comes from a deeply unconstitutional administrative state that I think, has nothing to do with advancing or promoting the interests of the American people. That's the fight. That is the issue. That is the thing.

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If you don't have a border, you don't have sovereignty, you don't have citizens, what does it actually mean to be a country? What does it mean to be a citizen? What does it mean to be America? What does it mean to be an American citizen? What does it mean to have a constitution? We're very unique people. We have a very unique way of life.

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Right. No, my concern is that these secretaries, these new nominees who are going to be confirmed, the secretary is going to walk in and go, oh my gosh, I'm secretary of this department. Isn't this wonderful? And then how can I be as effective as possible as the new secretary of this various department and all the power that I have to actually enact change? No, no.

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The whole point is for you to make this thing go away, to make it end, to make it cease to exist. I have questions about some of them.

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I think they're going to run most of it through OMB. Right. They're going to run it through Ross and his team and advise strategies, you know, plans.

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i i i'll be completely honest when they say we're going to declare victory and say we're done in 18 months and july 4th of 2026. i i that's insane good to have a deadline though it's nice to have a deadline it's also an insane one why um the administrative state started 112 years ago it has been building it has got so many reinforcing loops inside of this massive leviathan

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You're not going to absolutely... First of all, I don't think you can get the fundamental question answered about, does the head of the executive branch get to hire and fire whoever he wants to in 18 months? I think it'd probably be two years. I've actually talked with Sean Davis, who's a good buddy. He's like, dude, I think you're lucky if it's answered in two years.

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I think there's some fundamental questions and things that have to be answered and done that are going to take some time. I don't think you can declare victory in 18 months. This has been 100 plus years in the making. And there are so many people with so many vested interests in the status quo

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And with everything that has been taking place in regards to immigration, if it was to have continued for another four years, again, I think all bets are off on who we are as a people, who we are as a country moving forward. So immigration, first thing. Foreign policy, I mean, that to me, what are we even doing on a whole host of fronts in regards to Ukraine?

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Various people in government, outside of government, the entire system, they're going to fight tooth and nail to make sure that this system of government does not go away. So you're going to be up again. I think we're going to be involved if Donald Trump goes down the path of I'm going to destroy the administrative state.

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It could be that the previous nine years of the craziness that we have seen as a warm-up act for maybe one of the coldest political wars we'll see in DC ever, because of what's at stake.

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I mean, you're talking about regime change politics here, where, I mean, two very different governing philosophies of how you approach government on a whole host of fronts from basic human rights to how government actually operates. And there are a lot of people vested interest in maintaining the status quo of the administrative state.

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And they're going to fight tooth and nail to make sure that it doesn't go away. So I think in some ways, I love the fact that he has put brilliant minds like Elon and Vivek to do this with an outsider's approach. I just don't think it's going to happen. I don't think meaningful, fundamental change that is long-term and lasting is going to take place in 18 months.

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And I'm being realistic, having been in DC for 25 years.

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But I don't want cheap victories. I don't want them to go, we've cut, I mean, first of all, it'd be great if they cut X number of dollars of spending and cut X, you know, hundreds or thousands of regulations. Wonderful, wonderful victories. Again, those are the effects. The cause is the state.

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That whole mess is still going where we're still apparently sending billions of dollars over to Ukraine before they shut the lights out on the Biden White House.

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All of this stuff that we've seen, the out-of-control spending, the out-of-control growth of government, all of these things are because of the administrative state. It's in the DNA of it. No, I mean, the progressives who founded the administrative state viewed the state as salvation. Salvation was to come into every aspect of your life.

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But it's in the DNA. The DNA of the administrative state is perpetual growth. So if it continues to grow and you're just trimming right here and like, oh, we declared victory, it'll continue, it'll grow right back. You have to cut down the tree. The branches will keep growing. So I don't want them to just trim branches.

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I need them to tear up by root the administrative state so that it doesn't return and continue to grow.

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Last statistics I saw, there are about twice as many federal contractors as there are federal employees.

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But the foreign policy, again, getting us to the point, and also the weakness that we have demonstrated on the international stage for the last four years, at a certain point, that was going to cause even more serious implications if it was another four years of that. And I don't know where it would have ended.

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I am for all of the above in whatever approach it takes in the short term to stop the madness. I talk about this a little bit in the book where you've got system dynamics and inside of this massive sprawling system, you've got these reinforcing loops that continue to grow and grow and compound. It's almost like compounding interest and then just explode in size and strength.

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Yeah, I think you've got to start stopping these little reinforcing loops like revoking security clearances.

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um so i think there's a whole variety of american leviathan american leviathan leviathan's a sea monster it is but also the second definition is a massive sprawling bureaucracy that that borders on totalitarian yes but the leviathan is described in i think job and isaiah right yeah in the old testament yes as a some sort of not quite

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Yeah, quasi-demonic sea monster that God eventually conquers, that Yahweh eventually conquers. But the second definition is definitely about a massive sprawling bureaucracy that tends to be authoritarian and totalitarian. And that's what we have. I mean, this is the one thing that I just... It kind of started dawning on me years ago. Like, there's a serious problem with how DC operates.

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I mean, I was at the White House, George W. Bush, don't hate me for this. I wrote for him, which was a really interesting experience. You know, whenever you get to write for a president, he's signing your stuff, that's awesome. While my dad was in the House voting against all of his major pieces of legislation. Yeah.

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which was pretty, when you go, when you're young and you go to DC and you're kind of new to what you think all Republicans are created equal, all the red guys are good guys and all the blue guys are bad guys. And then you start to realize, like I said earlier, not all Republicans are created equal. There's definitely like different shades along the way.

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And I remember my dad having to take some pretty strong stances in the House and voting against a lot of these major initiatives from George W. Bush because he strongly believed they were not conservative at all in the least bit. In fact, one of the biggest ones was Medicare Part D. This is one of the, my dad is- The prescription drug benefit. Yes, the prescription drug benefit.

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I think it was 2003, right before the 2004 election. They really wanted it because they felt that it would help the senior vote. And there were about 24, about two dozen holdouts in the House and the Republican caucus that said, we're not going to vote for this. We're just not going to. They brought them down to the White House.

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They had Dick Cheney and all the senior White House staff kind of have a little chitchat with them. They all came back and said, we're still not voting for this. And then Bush was overseas and started lobbying them directly. And I remember him calling my dad and saying, I really need this vote. And my dad was like, you know, you're doing a great job representing us overseas, sir.

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Jim, I really need this vote. I'm not giving you this vote. Click. That was it. It was the end of the conversation. And yeah, my dad fighting tooth and nail to try and prevent that from passing. It actually passed by one vote because they kept the House floor open for an additional I don't know how many hours and eventually got someone to switch their vote in the like 3 a.m., 4 a.m. hour.

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This was a Karl Rove project. It was. Yeah. You realize compassionate conservatism is just another name for big government. So this is the other thing, too. I make this point. Remember when people treated Karl Rove like a genius? Yes.

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The thing that Donald Trump, again, and why he's viewed as such an existential threat by permanent D.C. is he rejects the premise. Yeah. Nixon and Reagan rejected the premise that the administrative state was legitimate. And I think actually Watergate is really more a story of that than anything else.

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I mean, when you go back and look at the story of Watergate, Richard Nixon had just won $500 million. 520 electoral votes. Biggest victory in American history. 49 states, won by 20 million votes in the popular vote. It was massive. And he talked very clearly about what he intended to do in the second term in restructuring and dismantling administrative state.

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And then, lo and behold, Watergate happens, and there's a lot of questions about what actually went down.

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Yeah, Mark Feld goes to his corporate propagandists, Woodward and Bernstein. And Woodward was a former naval intel officer. And uses them as the mouthpiece to then take out the duly elected president of the United States, who was an existential threat to the administrative state. Flip side of the coins, Russiagate. Same thing.

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Because the first Republican president since Reagan to reject the premise that the administrative state is legitimate was Donald Trump. George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush were like... We're okay with it as long as we get to run it. And this is what always worries me a little bit about Republicans who are like, well, it's okay as long as we're running it.

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um that in the final couple weeks of his administration he's gonna start a war with iran with with lindsey graham's full support um that this this to me is at some point at some point i hope that we can restructure the republican party in the primaries of 2026. that's another topic that would love to discuss with you but yeah at some point donald trump won on an America first message.

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No, it's a poisonous tree with poisonous fruit. You cannot reform it.

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Why didn't Nixon do that? I don't know. But that shows you who Donald Trump is as a person. Right. No, you're right. I mean, Nixon could have done that. He didn't. Donald Trump basically has. No, no, no, no. That's not the truth of what's taking place. And he stood up and he said, this is completely politically motivated. They're trying to take me out because I'm a threat to them.

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let me ask about something you alluded to which is can i say something really quick of course please the amount of courage that it simply took to say something out loud that people would consider verboten yeah that's part of donald trump's great power.

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He'll say stuff out loud to people that you shouldn't say that, or you can't be saying that, but he needs to say, and he should say it because of situations like this, where he has the ability to say it.

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And sometimes, you know, he says things that, you know, maybe they're not the most helpful, but a lot of times he says things out loud that in the past people would have said, you can't, you can't say that.

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Donald Trump, again, has said... I reject the premise that I have to be quiet, which I think is a very refreshing approach. And the question is, how far will he go? And I hope he does go.

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Because the power structure has been constructed over the last hundred years. How do I... There's a couple of threads I want to go down with that question.

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It'd be really nice if the rest of the Republicans fell in line with that and understanding that the people voted for change and the change is what they want with America first. And that includes Donald Trump's approach on foreign policy. That does not include more shooting wars with Iran and others across the globe.

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He's talking to his masters, actually. Yeah, he's talking to the real decision-makers inside of our government, which was the whole point. It's crazy. No, I mean, in American Leviathan, the people have to understand... Progressives hated the Constitution. They wanted to destroy the political and moral authority of it. They wanted to do away with the machinery of the Republic.

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They wanted to do a separation of powers, all of these things. And in its place, put in this massive administrative state, this massive bureaucracy filled with unelected bureaucrats who they thought our elected representatives should subdelegate governing and legislating to because they thought the bureaucrats should actually be doing the business of governing and running the country.

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So people, I think people are a little perplexed when they see behavior like this of where the unelected bureaucrats, like Chris Wray. Remember that hearing with Grassley with the oversight committee hearing and Wray informs him, hey, I got to go. I got to get on my plane. I've got an important trip to be at. It was a family vacation, by the way. He told off.

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the Senate that was supposed to be providing oversight. I have to leave. And he goes on the FBI jet to his private vacation home to enjoy a little downtime. He was telling off the people that were supposed to be providing oversight because it's not really how it works anymore. But that was the always... But those people never threatened.

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This is what I... So... We're not going to build you a new building. The whole point was for these unelected bureaucrats to be doing the covering, to be doing the decision making. It'd be nice if Congress said, you know what? We hold the purse strings. We're not going to fund you anymore. We're just simply not going to fund you.

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He's the best speaker Democrats could hope for. I'm not a fan, and I kind of understand some of the political dynamics of why Trump is pushing for him to avoid, what was it, 17 votes or whatever it was, let's get down to business that we had last time. So I kind of understand some of that. At the same time,

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I mean, could Democrats hope for a better speaker right now with them being in the minority? I don't think so. Mike Johnson is one of the best things they could hope for right now. He gives them whatever they want to.

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I think this recent spending bill, the initial version of it, really shows the true nature of who someone is that allows something like that to come out and be in public on this 1,500, 1,600-page monstrosity. I think that was the true illustration of how weak he actually is. But yeah, I mean, these guys have been performing

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At the same time, there is a certain approach that I think Donald Trump brings to foreign policy that brought us peace. I mean, four years of no new wars, peace. He has the ability to do that, and it does not involve starting new wars or foreign intervention. So I would say that's one of the other topics.

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political lawfare inside of our government against not only the president but i would argue members of congress and for years and you're going to go ahead and reward them with i can't remember the cost for a new fbi headquarters but it's not millions it's hundreds of millions right of course why are you rewarding these people that have badly abused our system who by the way

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I don't think right now in their current iteration, the DOJ and the FBI, you know, we always consider them the guardians of the rule of law. And one of the basic pillars of our society was rule of law and the equal enforcement of justice that all stood equal before the law. And the DOJ and the FBI were going to enforce that and make sure that happened.

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Now they're just a Praetorian guard of the administrative state. Why are you funding them? Why are you rewarding them for this behavior in which, quite frankly, I would go back to self-preservation.

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If you really do believe in self-preservation as a party and as an opposition party, because the DOJ and the FBI and the various parts of the administrative state are protecting the administrative state and they view Republicans, for the most part, as a threat to that. Why are you funding them to continue doing more damage to you and trying to destroy you? Are you insane? Makes no sense.

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What's the answer? I think they're weak. I don't think they understand what time it is. I don't think they fully come to the clue. I don't think they want to maybe fully examine the reality of what is.

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This to me is at some point you have to wake up to the reality of what's going on. Yep. And if you don't, it might be too late. And that's why I think Donald Trump being reelected is a huge step in the right direction of hopefully he can instill a little bit of a spine. Who's he going to pardon? Backbone. Who is Trump going to pardon? Well, I hope they won. It's all of January 6th.

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I think that's right. I mean, listen, there are so many different questions that have now risen. I had questions when it actually happened. Like, what, this, this, something's wrong here. You can't, I mean, all the chaos, there's something wrong. Well, now we just know it was just a setup. It was a setup. Yeah.

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I think he has to go out and not only pardon them, I would hope that they get good lawyers and they get massive settlements from the government for all the abuse they've taken over the last four years. Significant settlements.

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They haven't apologized for Russiagate. They didn't apologize for using a fake dossier and saying this is proof of Russian collusion when, quite frankly, I think a lot of them, well, some of them didn't because they're not smart enough. Some of them knew that it was fake. They just viewed it as a useful weapon to take out someone they hated.

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One of the other issues that I think has been a blessing for us with Trump winning, the economy. I mean, can you imagine if we had another four years of this economy, where we'd be? When they tell us, they gaslight us and tell us the economy's fine, inflation, all these things are figments of your imagination. Everybody's doing just fine.

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I think some of them actually believed it because they're dumb.

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I mean, I couldn't give you a list of names, but... But the victims of lawfare. Yeah, I would think that he can go through and just go for the last four years or, quite frankly, eight years. Everybody that has been abused by this political lawfare, who's been abused by the DOJ and the FBI and every other aspect of our government, full pardon. And again...

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go back to not just the pardons not not only do you get your freedom back and your your lives back but i hope that there's significant settlements yeah i mean i hope that these people get paid out significantly and i don't like to see more taxpayer money being sent out to people but in this situation i'm all for it yeah i am too

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It is. It's unsustainable. Right. I mean, this is at some point, and I think we're coming to that. I think we have come to that point. I think we came to that point a long time ago, actually. But now it's becoming unsustainable. I mean, at one point this last, was it last year or two years ago, we were growing it by a trillion dollars.

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in 100 days, every 100 days or something, the national debt, it's just, it's exploding. I think Trump thinks he can grow us out of some of these situations. I don't think that's the only, I don't think that's the solution. At some point, you have to address the underlying of what are we actually doing with this government that continues to grow, that the DNA and its DNA is perpetual growth.

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Again, going back to, if you believe government, if you believe the state is salvation, and it should invade every aspect of your life. Well, until every aspect of your life is saved, government will continue to grow. You have to completely destroy this to stop the spending, to stop the growth. So I think he has to go down that dual path.

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Yeah, we can, you know, growth in our economy, but at the same time, the underlying cost for the debt, the spending has been this state. And I think we have to have a conversation. This is the one thing where it feels like the American people, we never actually had a conversation with the American people about what form of government they wanted.

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It was just a slow-moving regime change, I would argue, a slow-moving revolution against the Republic over the last 100 years. People are under the illusion we have some representative democracy, constitutional republic, when in fact we don't.

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And you look at, and that's what I do with American Majority. I work with the grassroots. I'm out there with everyday people. It is not fine. And I couldn't imagine another four years of them being devastated economically where we would be. So those three things, immigration, foreign policy, economy, inflation.

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What is the government that we think best fits, that is best suited for a government of buy-in for the people, that provides the most amount of freedom and liberty and the most amount of prosperity for the American people? And we've really, I don't think we've really had that conversation over the last hundred years.

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It's just kind of been slow moving, and all of a sudden we wake up to find ourselves in 2024, 2025 now, going... I don't think we ever had a conversation about this. Right, because the country was rich, and as long as you're rich, you don't worry about details. And the economy was growing, and life was great, and we're just going to continue on. This will never end.

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But that's not how history works. That's not how... At some point, the music stops, and people have to have hard conversations about what are we actually doing to make sure that we... This is sustainable in the future because what we have is not sustainable at all on any level.

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So I was deeply concerned about, you know, people somewhere, somewhere inside of Trump world, someone was pushing Mike Rogers, which I thought was a terrible mistake. Who's Mike Rogers? Former FBI agent was running for Senate, was a member of the House. Former FBI was a member of the House. I think Intel Committee was. Then was running for Senate this time around, lost narrowly.

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And then someone was pushing him to be FBI director, which I think was the wrong take by like a country mile. You don't need an institutionalist to go in and run what I think is one of the most corrupt institutions in our country today. And I told Trump, I was like, as much as you need a loyalist running DOJ, times it times a hundred running the FBI. It's a pit of vipers.

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And you need somebody like Kash Patel We talked about Rick Grinnell, Kash Patel. But you need somebody that's going to go in there and be fearless to say, we are not doing this anymore. In fact, I would kind of like, I know Kash has said this. Again, we'll see what happens. But he said that day one, he'd shut it down and turn it into a museum for the deep state.

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The FBI in its current form, its current iteration, needs to cease to exist. And I think Kash Patel has not only the... The intelligence and the skills, the courage. Who's going to commit terror attacks if we don't have an FBI? Yeah, I know. This to me, I think we have to, what has been the point of the FBI? They started what, 1908, I think is when they originated. What are they actually doing?

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What is their purpose right now? besides being Praetorian guard for the administrative state. Right, and looking at potential people like Donald Trump as existential threats and trying to destroy them. And then we continue to fund it blindly. This is writ large with our government and administrative state.

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What I find one of the most interesting things about Republicans today and have for, quite frankly, years, elect me. I'm going to go to D.C. I'm going to change D.C. They get to D.C. They accept budget recommendations from these very departmented agencies, go ahead and pass those, fund them.

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do these four or 5,000 page bills, send them over to the bureaucrats who with their statutes and regulations actually put a fine point on how this is actually gonna look in reality. So they're doing the real governing. So they've not only given them all the funding without any real oversight, they just give it to them.

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They've then sub-delegated their legislative authority to these unelected bureaucrats. And then go home and say, you need to send me back. I know those people at the EPA or the FDA made some terrible regulations that are ruining your lives, but send me back.

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I'll fight the system and I'll make sure that doesn't happen again as they get reelected to then fund those people again, to then send them forward 5,000 page bills, to then do the statutes and regulations that actually govern us. The whole system is completely bonkers.

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And it's actually very beneficial to most of these elected representatives, experts in self-preservation, because they don't have to make the hard choices. They don't actually have to do the really hard decisions on legislating because the statutes and regulations that have the binding effect of laws is what's being done over here in the Article II branch by these administrative state bureaucrats.

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At some point, I do have some hope that we're going to have a chance, not only with Donald Trump, but the Supreme Court. The last summer, there were a couple of cases that I think gave us real hope. Yes. It was not only Chevron deference, where the Supreme Court said, 40 years, this is a disaster. We're not going to have judicial deference to these bureaucrats. regulations and statutes.

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I think the other one that wasn't discussed as much that should have been is when the Supreme Court said the SEC tribunals, you can't have those anymore. The SEC cannot have its own private administrative law tribunal in which 90% of the time that SEC tribunal ruled in favor of the SEC.

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The Supreme Court said, first of all, it calls into question the idea of an independent judiciary, because you're taking the judicial role inside the Article 2 branch, not the Article 3, and you've annihilated our Seventh Amendment, which is right to trial by jury. We're not going to do this anymore.

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Which was, by the way, I mean, you look at some of these things that we're dealing with today and look at where the founders started. They wanted an independent judiciary because they saw what the British courts were doing in rubber stamping King George III and his ministers and parliament's edicts that they viewed as very deeply unfair to them, but they were just acting as a rubber stamp.

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So they said, we're going to have an independent judiciary. And then with the administrative state, obviously, it's annihilated the separation of powers, and you have Article II branch doing a lot of the legislative and a lot of the judicial. I think Supreme Court stepping up and saying we're not going to do this anymore is another step in the right direction.

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But at some point, I would hope that members of Congress would find it within themselves to have – Just the smallest bit of political curse to say, I'm not going to blindly fund this stuff anymore. And that's a step in the right direction. For example, with the FBI. We're not going to do this anymore. We can't do this anymore. For our own sakes.

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I don't think so. Not for her. Tell me. I think she was such a disaster. They got stuck. I mean, first of all, they boxed themselves into a corner of their own making. Yes. Right. They knew Joe Biden. They got a DEI candidate and they lived with the results. Right.

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We did. And I think they got stuck, and they realized this is the only horse we've got to ride. They tried to pull it off. It looked, for a couple weeks, maybe they've got a shot. And then all of a sudden, obviously, the reality of who she is, a lightweight, intellectually a lightweight, so far in over her head.

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It's clear that she's just been going up the ranks as a DEI advancement for her whole life. Yes. I think they're going to be very happy for her to fade off into obscurity. I mean, I saw some... Do you feel sorry for her at all? I do not at all.

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She had... I mean, she's been a beneficiary of it. She's had... Well, she became vice president of the United States. Well, I'm saying based off, being completely honest, based off her talents or lack thereof or her skill sets, she's had a pretty freaking good life. No, she had.

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I don't know if I've ever heard it described that way.

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I don't know. I really don't. Probably not, right? It feels like she has completely just... Even though she's still vice president for a few more weeks, it feels like she has already been relegated to obscurity. And I think that's going to be the rest of her... She's just disappeared. Yeah, it's going to be the rest of her existence.

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I'm sure that somewhere or someone will find her a nice gig at a foundation, but... I think this is the last time you're going to see any serious conversation about her.

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But then the next step becomes, Donald Trump to me, listen, nobody's perfect. We all have many imperfections and nobody's a perfect person. But I think Donald Trump's a man for the hour. He has shown and demonstrated political courage

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I think they will do everything that they can to avoid that. I think they will do everything they can to make sure they never have a conversation about her again.

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We could start a campaign together. Don't you think? Let's do it. But in real life, like, she's just going to fail. She's gone.

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Come on. I think the scary part to me over the last four years is that we knew... Some of us knew sooner than others, but I think a lot of people knew this guy had early cognitive decline. He was already in some stage of dementia.

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Right, from pretty much day one of him being sworn in. I mean, this to me is one of the great scandals of, I don't know, however many generations of political history. Ever, yeah. That we had... Joe Biden in the White House in cognitive decline, early dementia, whatever you want to call it, who is actually running the country for four years.

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I mean, this to me is like it's a Woodrow Wilson replay, right? Where his wife and his chief of staff were actually running most of it.

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So, yeah, I don't, you know, Dr. Jill, our first female president, should have a bright future in front of her, whatever she wants to do.

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I cannot even begin to imagine the last four years of the political, the lawfare that has been put on him, used against him, the incredible pressure to try and destroy him. And I've told people this, and I'll say it here. Donald Trump knew what he was going up against. He didn't run away from it. He ran at it. That, to me, is one of the most amazing parts of this story.

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Republicans aren't used to, again, going back to what we discussed earlier, they're not used to fighting bare-knuckled, brawling style. And they think that would have been beneath them and undignified. Undignified. And these people were, these people for four years. Undignified.

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And this was not, I mean, I think we have to have the, you know, when we talked about immigration and our foreign policy and the inflation and economy and all these things were taking place. This, when there's a series of coincidences, it ceases to be a coincidence.

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It was all systematic. Yeah. Just, we're just going to just continue to destroy this country. We're going to completely remake it with massive illegal immigration. Yeah. I mean, this to me is why I can't understand. These people hate this country. They hate the country as originally founded. They hate the original Constitution. They hate the idea of the freeborn American people.

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They hate whites, if I can just say. There's a lot of things that they have hated for a long... And they intentionally and systematically were seeking to destroy us and our way of life. And Republicans, a lot of Republicans in D.C. are going along with it, going... oh, they're really not that bad, are they? Yes, they are. They truly are.

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And they would hope, their goal, I think, is to see this country cease to exist as it once was and to create some new order for this country that has nothing to do with where we came from at all. I think people feel that.

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I have to tell you one of the most, you've known JD longer than me. I met him when he was thinking about running for Senate. Yes. In the primary. Got to know him. I obviously lobbied Trump to endorse him in the primary and Senate. Good for you. So got to know him a little bit there. Obviously lobbied a little bit for him to be VP. I know you and Don Jr.

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did a lot more on that front, but it was like, this is the future of the country. I texted him. The most impressive part to me is having known him, seeing where he's come from. You get put in pressure cookers like he was put in over the last year. You either collapse, you rise. He's gone next level.

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I mean, this to me is, I mean, obviously he's an intelligent person, he's very talented, but you get put into those situations, you either collapse or rise, and he rose. And I think he's gone to the next- Wait, did he? He's gone to the next level, which is extremely impressive. And I think the thing that was really important for me in who Trump picked as his VP-

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was the future of what does America first look like after I'm gone? He's got four years, he's done, right? That's it. And I think a lot of people in DC, permanent DC, establishment Republicans, corporate, you name it, we just have to outlast him for another four years. And then he goes in and now JD's 40, but he was 39 at the time and goes, tell you what I'm going to do.

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I'm going to pick a 39-year-old VP who is going to be the heir to America first and

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when i'm gone he's going to be around for a long time like this is the few i'm going i'm pushing all my chips in this is an all-in move on america first you're not going to just outlast me for four years i'm going to make this into a permanent long-term political movement yeah that to me was what he did with jd and jd got put into that situation pressure cooker rose to the occasion and i think he has really

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It's been extremely impressive to me. I mean, everything that he has done. I mean, having done a lot of TV, what he would do on the Sunday morning shows, not one or two, but sometimes three on a given day, going in and dismantling each one of those antagonistic, hostile hosts. I'm so impressed by what he did and was able to do. I feel the same way. Not easy.

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In some ways, I think back to the story of David and Goliath. And this is one of my favorite stories out of Scripture. If you go back and look at it, David didn't run away. He didn't kind of slowly approach Goliath. He ran at him. And that kind of, to me, is Donald Trump knows exactly what he's up against. He's up against very powerful forces.

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And he did it so well and rose to the occasion every time, by the way. Which you and I, I mean, I've done enough TV. Sometimes you're like, that wasn't the greatest. It seemed like every time he went in and did this, I was just like, that is so freaking impressive.

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Have you come to the same conclusion I have? That if you're a corporate propagandist, you can't be intelligent or smart because you can't be a free thinker. And you have no dignity. You have to accept.

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No, I couldn't either. I get fired up and kind of get a little snarky.

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Very pugilistic at times. Me too. And he's very calm, dignified, very rational. He's incredible. Highly intelligent. Yes. But I think that to me is, again, going back to what Trump did with him, we're all in on this. A young VP who hopefully we're going to have a very successful four years with Trump. He's going to use J.D. effectively, set up J.D. in the future.

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And then all of a sudden, because... Going back to what I said earlier, you don't fix what we've been going through for the last hundred years in 18 months. You don't even fix it in four years. I think we need no less than 12 years of political power with the right people in DC to actually bring about the fundamental change necessary.

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So you have to set yourself up for at least 12 years of political power, four years of Trump, eight years of JD. And then all of a sudden you've got the ability with the right people doing the right things to actually bring about the right reform necessary to restore the Republic.

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This is about, but going back to, and I totally agree with you about political power has to be in the right hands, doing the right things to achieve the right ends. But this to me is why we have to achieve and retain political power for no less than 12 years in TC.

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I mean, as much as we despise the administrative state and the deep state and the corporate propagandists and all these things, these are very powerful forces. And they can do a lot of damage to your life. He didn't have to do this. He could have been enjoying a very good life somewhere else in the world playing golf for the rest of his life every day in the lovely spot in the world.

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I remember having a conversation with the head of a tech company, pretty prominent one. Molly Hemingway was there with me. Talking about the algorithms and how biased they are. Man, is she a smart chick. She's very smart. And a great person. One of my favorite people in D.C. I totally agree. And... We were sitting there talking with this person. He goes, no, algorithms are neutral.

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Afterwards, I looked at him, I was like, he just lied to us. Nothing is neutral. Nothing's neutral in life. That to me is one of the things that I think is the greatest. It's neutral.

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So that to me is, there's nothing neutral in life at all. And so whatever influence is going behind the AI and the technology, will be biased in one direction or another.

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He ran at them. And he took incredible pressure, incredible body blows, kept running at them, and in many ways triumphed.

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And then you have a situation of who's controlling the controllers, who controls that technology, what is their end goal, what do they believe about human rights, what do they believe about civil liberties, what do they believe about basic freedom? I'm concerned about the whole AI singularity. Oh, of course. This to me, the Sunsoft Bank guy,

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So he spent tens of when he announces you're going to spend 100 billion to create jobs here in America. I'm like, please go away. I don't want you anywhere near this country. He has spent tens of billions of dollars trying to advance and accelerate singularity in which AI is really truly doing the governing of this world. And we lose a lot of our. Humans are not running the world.

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It's singularity. It's AI. It's all this technology. It's actually doing it because they'll do it better. It defeats sovereignty and free will and therefore humanity.

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It completely annihilates the idea of humanity. And this is the guy that's been doing it. So I think this to me is... I know Elon has said some things that, you know, we should, we need to have a conversation about AI. I don't think we're having a deeper, we need to have a deeper conversation about AI. Singularity and where we're actually headed and what do we want our future to look like.

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over these people that were trying to destroy him and now he's back in a position of power to be able to implement i think a vision for this country that will begin a restoration this is i don't consider myself a conservative necessarily because what are we actually conserving this to me is one of my great frustrations with the conservative movement writ large

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So Michael Crichton. So they'll accept anything. Yeah, Michael Crichton wrote a great book, State of Fear. I actually cite him in the book. in which he was talking about the political science of global warming and how it puts people in the perpetual state of fear to achieve the certain political goals of people, what they want to achieve.

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But the whole idea of keeping people in a perpetual state of fear to manipulate them into getting what these people want to achieve the future they want, which might or might not be, typically not, beneficial to the rest of the people.

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but it's fear it's a tactic of fear like code's going to kill you all so you should stay inside your house and wear a mask and be six feet apart which is all made up by the way of course which is that funny where they say trust the science and then they go well yeah men can be women women men but you only trust the science we say what science is science is what we say it is but in that situation it's not the intellectual incoherence of the left drives me nuts but that's what happens when you kind of

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When you cut the cord to the transcendent, this idea of a transcendent creator and natural inherent rights and something above and beyond is infinite. And then you all just devolve into this theater of the absurd because whatever you say at the moment is right. If there's no absolutes, society becomes absolute. So whatever society says in that moment becomes absolute.

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So men can be women and women, men. And you just make it up as you go along. And that's why I think kind of some of this stuff is being exposed. Fauci, well, six feet. Well, you just made that up. The vaccine wasn't a vaccine.

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I remember being castigated on a certain network that I think people would have been surprised for saying that I thought the shot at best was a therapeutic shot and you would have thought I shot somebody's dog. Who castigated you? You know, some network that would have been surprising for people.

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Sorry. I have to tell you, I think the COVID tests was a test that many people failed on the conservative side of things because they believed the lies told by the so-called experts. It was a test. They failed miserably. And I actually got texts from people saying, Couple weeks in when I realized this is not, I have real questions here. I don't think this is what people are cracking it up to be.

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And they were texting me, what's up with all your boomer tweets? What's going on here? Like, this is serious stuff. I said, why do you accept blindly that the CDC and the NIH are suddenly peers driven snow? When over the last several years, we've seen the DOJ and the FBI and other parts of this state be weaponized against and used for political purposes.

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And now suddenly different branch of the same tree is somehow peers driven snow. Like, I'm sorry, I just think in my, you know, if you think through this in a reasonable, rational way, I think you should really strongly question anything that's coming out of the CDC and the NIH or anything else, because I think there's a certain political element to what they're actually pushing.

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And I think that's how you had, like, I was kind of stunned when so many conservatives fell for Wharton. Like, why can't you just step back and go, this is heavily politicized. This is probably heavily politicized. I'm not sure. I don't trust them. So why should I trust? I don't trust them either.

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And I've told him, so I, this is another thing that I think we need to start really emphasizing with a lot of, a lot of us. I tell my kids. Like think for yourself. I tell my kids all the time, question everything.

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Except for me, I'm your benevolent dictator. Well, you're the patriarch.

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Explain to me again what we've actually been conserving over the last 40, 50, 60 years. I'm more interested, and it's a very reactive term too, conservative.

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No question. There's no question. But that's how you get to the truth. You have to question everything to actually get to the truth of what is and don't accept something on its face value. Why should I take orders from anyone who pushed the Vax ever again?

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Is that fair? I mean, I don't, that seems like a pretty just simple. I just, I'm just going to, I don't believe you. I'm sorry, I don't believe you. Until you can actually prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that what you're telling me is true, I don't believe you. And I think that should be our entire approach to all the government right now.

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If we can break the hold of big pharma. I think, I mean, that to me is a step in the right direction of what's going on.

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That's my personal opinion. I think, I hope that the American people over the last nine years, especially, everything that's taken place. would have a healthy dose of skepticism about anything coming out of our government and our corporate propagandists moving forward and go, I'm not going to accept you at face value until you can prove, be verifiable proof of what you're saying.

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I'm far more interested in restoration, in being a restorationist, in restoring the republic, in restoring a constitutional republic, in restoring a government of, by, and for the people that actually promotes the interests of the American people, which... Kind of the premise of the American Republic, right?

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I think that'd be a very healthy approach for us moving forward.

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I was in a mood of my rights as a freeborn American and the country I was promised, Constitutional Republic, government of, by, and for the people has been annihilated, has been destroyed. We have an illusion of it.

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And we are being lectured that somehow our betters, who are these unelected bureaucrats, who are a credentialed idiocracy, somehow are the ones that should be governing us and ruling us. And I wanted to have a conversation. I wanted to start a conversation with the American people with the book. of these people do not have your best interests in mind.

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They have taken away your birthright as a freeborn American people. They have annihilated the Constitutional Republic. They have destroyed the machinery of the Republic. which is the best protector of your natural inherent rights. And they did it intentionally. I mean, the progressives don't believe in natural inherent rights. They're actually vehemently opposed to a rights-based government.

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Of course. They thought that rights do not... I mean, Frank Goodenow, who was really one of the guys that structured the administrative state through administrative law, said that an individual does not possess rights from his creator, but from his society. His society is the one that gives an individual his rights.

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Because they believed the state should give rights back to the people if it was a benefit to the state. You can't have natural, inherent, God-given rights because it becomes a monkey wrench in their progressive idea of the state of salvation efficiency towards progress. All of these things that have taken place, and I was just like, we have to have this conversation.

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And it goes back to what I was saying earlier. We have not had this conversation about who we are as a people, what our birthright is, what our rights are, what our God-given rights are, what government should actually look like today. And let's have that conversation and then have the conversation about how we get back to where we started.

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I mean, the Constitution is the greatest document, political document the world's ever seen. And it was written by men who are not perfect, by the way. They had their own share of faults. They got it. They nailed it. They realized they were imperfect human beings in an imperfect world. They were optimistic realists, though. They realized that God had given rights.

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They were optimistic that even though we knew they were imperfect human beings who should never have consolidated power, they could form a government that protected those natural God-given rights and took none of them away. And it provided for this

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Amazing, small agrarian country, kind of on the edge of that Eurocentric world in the late 1700s to become, honestly, I would say the greatest nation the world has ever seen. How does that happen? It's not by chance. It's because these guys knew, they understood human nature, they fully understood a transcendent creator with natural inherent rights.

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All power flows from the American people, from the people to their duly elected representatives, who they make the stewards of the power and money given to them, to put together a government that actually promotes and protects the interests of the American people every day on every issue. And we've kind of lost sight of that. And Donald Trump's, the great temerity of Donald Trump back in 2016...

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We're going to create this constitutional republic. We're going to create the greatest amount of freedom as possible for the flourishing of freedom and prosperity. And the progressives completely fundamentally rejected that turn of the 20th century and said, no, we don't believe in that. We don't believe that that has the answers to the 20th century.

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We believe we should put together this massive bureaucracy filled with these unelected bureaucrats who through applied science will lead us to a greater future who truly believe in the apotheosis of mankind. They believe that history was on this upward linear progress, that the end of history would be the perfection of mankind. Dead serious.

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No, so these are some of the poisonous ideas behind what's taking place in this country today.

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dumb rantings of deluded madmen is what i describe in the book of wildro wilson and herbert crowley and frank goodnow and all these founders of the progress john burgess who by the way was the founder of political science in america vehemently rejected a rights-based government and he's considered the father of political science in america so we should probably have questions about the whole exercise of political science yeah so yeah i was writing this book

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And we are called deplorables and irredeemables and disruptive simply because we're asking for a restoration of our rights. We're asking for a restoration of what we had. In some ways, and that's why I consider myself a restorationist, not a conservative.

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But going back to what the founders were trying to do during the American Revolution, they were simply asking that we have our rights as Englishmen restored. You have taken them away, we want them restored. And I think we've kind of come to that next, we've kind of come to that same situation today where I am demanding and others are demanding, we want our rights restored.

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We want our government restored, our Constitutional Republic restored. We want a government that actually benefits and promotes the interests of the American people on all fronts every day. And we're not treated as an afterthought. We're not treated as the ATM for the ruling class. We're actually treated with the respect that is due us as a freeborn American people.

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And my sincere hope is that we actually have enough leaders in D.C. I think we've got to start. We're going to need more with the political courage to understand the stakes and go, we're going to fight for this.

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But we're going to have to suffer to get there. We are. Like I said, I think if what I think could happen over the next four years, we could be in for one of the more interesting periods in time that makes the last nine years look like a warm-up act. But it's worth it. The fight's worth it. Ned Ryan, thank you. Thank you.

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was that he kind of showed up and said, hey, I think a government of, by, and for the people should actually promote the American people and their interests. And that's why I think he was considered such a great threat by permanent D.C., the administrative state, however you want to define it. This, to me, is a moment in time where we have a shot.

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where we have an actual shot of restoring the Republic, of restoring a government of, for, and by the people, to the people, to promote the people, to protect their interests.

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That to me is one of the most interesting things over the next four years, but it's going to require someone like Donald Trump with this political courage instilling into others political courage to actually do the right things. I'm a little nervous about Mike Johnson as speaker. I have my doubts about John Thune.

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But I think if he can actually instill the political courage necessary into Republicans on the Hill, but also into his various nominees, who I think will actually have what it takes to do what they should be doing in the various departments and agencies, we could be in for a singular moment in American history in which we look back and go, this was the turning point where we actually began to restore the Republic.

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will all of donald trump's nominees be confirmed by the republican senate i feel pretty good about a lot of them i i would not be surprised if pete hegseth gets 52 we'll see much feels that way yeah it feels like he's going to get i'll be a lot more specific they don't like tulsi gabbard they don't like tulsi i think rfk's got some problems um I feel good about Pete. I feel good about Russ Vogt.

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I think Russ is going to be one of the most- Russ is great. It's going to be one of the most important. Nobody really talks about OMB outside of DC. I'm telling you, one of the most important vehicles that Donald Trump will be able to use to deconstruct and dismantle the administrative state is OMB. And you got to have somebody like Russ Vogt. Ed Martin's going to be the chief of staff.

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Bishop has his deputy. And then I'm hoping he gets Eric Ulanen as deputy director of management. That's a rockstar team at OMB. Marty McCary, FDA. Amazing. Yeah, that would be huge. Paul Atkins at SEC. I feel good about that. So I think a lot of these people are going to... But you can't... I think he's going to get... overwhelming number of them through without too many problems.

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I think Tulsi and RFK are going to be question marks, if I'm being honest.

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Well, first of all, agent of change. People voted for Donald Trump. Yeah. I mean, this was a very clear election. You get choice A, choice B, very different approaches to government and to the future. There was no real illusion about, like, there's no confusion about what people were voting for. And they voted definitively for Donald Trump.

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You know, first Republican to win the popular vote since 2004, first Republican to win 311 electoral votes since 1988, first non-consecutive president since Grover Cleveland. I mean, this is a historical election. He wins. Agent of change. Agent of change gets his change agents. in the various departments and agencies. Well, yeah. And the Senate gets to advise and consent.

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They don't get to say, no, we want our buddy or we don't like this person, so we're not going to give you this person. Donald Trump won. Donald Trump won and also, by the way, I would make the argument, help get them the Senate and the House. So you have majorities because of Donald Trump. Donald Trump won. Donald Trump would like these people to actually be in these departments and agencies.

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And unless they're a criminal or unless there's some terrible thing in their past that is disqualifying, you get to confirm them.

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Well, first of all, stop to the madness. I mean, there was no way we were going to last another four years with the insanity that was going on. So we can put a stop to that at least for the moment. I think one of the most exciting things to me is... Can we just pause for one second? I think that's not an overstatement. It's not.

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I have proposed to some people behind the scenes that Donald Trump should have a very honest conversation with some of these senators. You have friends and family and associates that would like to be involved in this administration. Some of you have primaries in 2026. Let me be very clear here. If you oppose or vote against any of my nominees... I will find primary opponents for you in 26.

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Also, none of your family or friends or associates will ever find a job inside of this administration. I will become one of your worst enemies.

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I think they're trying the carrot approach right now, and I'm...

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I'm usually the stick approach first. Yeah. So I'd really like the big stick to come out. Let's see how these hearings begin in really just a couple days, how they start to play out. But I think there needs to be a conversation behind the scenes of, you know, we'd love for you to do the right thing. And if you don't, there are going to be serious consequences.

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But imagine— Because most of these elected officials— This is one thing that I've noticed about DC having been there for way too long. They are experts in self-preservation. Yeah. They want to come back. That's what they care about. Right. They want to come back in two years as a member of the House. They want to come back in six years as a member of the Senate.

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Let's have a little chit-chat about what your political future looks like if you don't want to actually give me my nominees.