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Mo Gawdat

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Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

Yeah, so there may be a threat in the future and you keep flip-flopping. Am I going to lose my job so I need to go and run and find another job? Or am I actually not going to lose my job so I need to double down so I get that promotion? And that uncertainty is the reason why you're stressed.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

Yeah, so there may be a threat in the future and you keep flip-flopping. Am I going to lose my job so I need to go and run and find another job? Or am I actually not going to lose my job so I need to double down so I get that promotion? And that uncertainty is the reason why you're stressed.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

And that uncertainty, when you're worried, makes you try to address the fear because you're assuming it's a fear, but then suddenly try to run the opposite way because you're not afraid anymore. So my advice to people is if you're worried, don't treat it as fear. Don't pay any attention to what is threatening you. Make up your mind. Should I freak out or should I chill?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

And that uncertainty, when you're worried, makes you try to address the fear because you're assuming it's a fear, but then suddenly try to run the opposite way because you're not afraid anymore. So my advice to people is if you're worried, don't treat it as fear. Don't pay any attention to what is threatening you. Make up your mind. Should I freak out or should I chill?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

If there is a reason to be afraid, then treat it as fear. Don't change your mind again. If there is no reason to be afraid, then drop it and go on with your life. The second is anxiety. And anxiety is probably the most interesting of all of them because anxiety, when you're anxious, You're not focused on the threat. You're focused on your capabilities to deal with it.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

If there is a reason to be afraid, then treat it as fear. Don't change your mind again. If there is no reason to be afraid, then drop it and go on with your life. The second is anxiety. And anxiety is probably the most interesting of all of them because anxiety, when you're anxious, You're not focused on the threat. You're focused on your capabilities to deal with it.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

And being anxious means I can see a threat approaching me, but I feel inadequate to deal with it. So if you try to address the threat when you're inadequate, what happens is you reassure yourself that you're inadequate and you're more anxious. So don't treat it as fear. What you need to do is when you're anxious, ask yourself, what capabilities am I missing?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

And being anxious means I can see a threat approaching me, but I feel inadequate to deal with it. So if you try to address the threat when you're inadequate, what happens is you reassure yourself that you're inadequate and you're more anxious. So don't treat it as fear. What you need to do is when you're anxious, ask yourself, what capabilities am I missing?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

First of all, by the way, am I actually not adequate? Second is if I'm not, what capabilities am I missing? How can I complement them? Can I ask a friend to come and help me out? Can I learn something, teach myself something? How can I develop myself, not deal with the threat? And then finally, there is panic. Panic is very straightforward. It's not a question of the threat.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

First of all, by the way, am I actually not adequate? Second is if I'm not, what capabilities am I missing? How can I complement them? Can I ask a friend to come and help me out? Can I learn something, teach myself something? How can I develop myself, not deal with the threat? And then finally, there is panic. Panic is very straightforward. It's not a question of the threat.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

It's a question of time. If the threat is imminent, the closer it is to you, the more panicked you are. So when you're panicked, don't try to deal with the threat. Try to deal with time.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

It's a question of time. If the threat is imminent, the closer it is to you, the more panicked you are. So when you're panicked, don't try to deal with the threat. Try to deal with time.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

Delay the presentation that you have to give, or again, ask a colleague to come and help you so that you're two hands on deck, or simply cancel a few meetings and give yourself more time so that you're not panicked anymore. And now you can handle the threat in an easy way. Once you understand those things, I mean, unstressable is a very, very large pool of exercises and knowledge and so on.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

Delay the presentation that you have to give, or again, ask a colleague to come and help you so that you're two hands on deck, or simply cancel a few meetings and give yourself more time so that you're not panicked anymore. And now you can handle the threat in an easy way. Once you understand those things, I mean, unstressable is a very, very large pool of exercises and knowledge and so on.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

But once you understand those basics, you end up again like happiness with a very interesting understanding that being stressed is a choice. While the external stressors are not within your control, most of them are, by the way, and your response to them, you get to decide. And in that case, then you can choose to be less stressed by actually taking the right steps.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

But once you understand those basics, you end up again like happiness with a very interesting understanding that being stressed is a choice. While the external stressors are not within your control, most of them are, by the way, and your response to them, you get to decide. And in that case, then you can choose to be less stressed by actually taking the right steps.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

Funny that I didn't discover it because I'm a very serious video gamer. I'm eSport level video gamer. Life is a video game. As a game, it will throw challenges at you because otherwise, who wants to start a game, push the controller forward and wait 70 years? When I used to game with Ali, being the strategic engineer that I am, I would start the game and run to the end of the level.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

Funny that I didn't discover it because I'm a very serious video gamer. I'm eSport level video gamer. Life is a video game. As a game, it will throw challenges at you because otherwise, who wants to start a game, push the controller forward and wait 70 years? When I used to game with Ali, being the strategic engineer that I am, I would start the game and run to the end of the level.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

And Ali would put his controller down and go like, Papa, why? Why are you doing this? And I'm like, the end of the level is here. And he goes like, Yeah, but who wants to get to the end of the level? We're playing. When you get to the end of the level, you stop playing. And he would run to the parts where there is explosives and smoke. And I go like, but why, Ali? Like, why?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

And Ali would put his controller down and go like, Papa, why? Why are you doing this? And I'm like, the end of the level is here. And he goes like, Yeah, but who wants to get to the end of the level? We're playing. When you get to the end of the level, you stop playing. And he would run to the parts where there is explosives and smoke. And I go like, but why, Ali? Like, why?