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Mo Gawdat

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Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

Yeah, and the idea is after I found my path to happiness with Ali's help 20 years earlier, suddenly I didn't need an Armani suit anymore and I didn't need a fancy car. I still love fixing them and selling them, as I said, but I don't need it in my life. And so my entire expense is just nothing really. My daughter's an adult. My ex-wife is completely fine, taken care of.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

Yeah, and the idea is after I found my path to happiness with Ali's help 20 years earlier, suddenly I didn't need an Armani suit anymore and I didn't need a fancy car. I still love fixing them and selling them, as I said, but I don't need it in my life. And so my entire expense is just nothing really. My daughter's an adult. My ex-wife is completely fine, taken care of.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

Myself and my loved ones are okay. And so when you really think about it, most of your financial freedom happens on your spending side, not your income side. And I think that was really what got things clear in my mind. Because living as the chief business officer of Google X requires you to pay some expenses that may look like things are highly inflated.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

Myself and my loved ones are okay. And so when you really think about it, most of your financial freedom happens on your spending side, not your income side. And I think that was really what got things clear in my mind. Because living as the chief business officer of Google X requires you to pay some expenses that may look like things are highly inflated.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

But when you really sit down and look at your actual expenses, if you don't have to spend on your work, on the image, on the networking, on the travel. If you just take all of those expenses that are actually expenses to get in the revenue, if you take all of those out and you simplify what you actually need, you'll be fine.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

But when you really sit down and look at your actual expenses, if you don't have to spend on your work, on the image, on the networking, on the travel. If you just take all of those expenses that are actually expenses to get in the revenue, if you take all of those out and you simplify what you actually need, you'll be fine.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

More interestingly, the other reason is that most people will say, but what if things go wrong? And I think I got frustrated first-class MBA degree from life in when things go wrong. Because I'll tell you openly, I planned everything for Ali. Insurance policies on my life in his name. I had properties and real estate in his name. I had started businesses. So Ali changed majors three times.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

More interestingly, the other reason is that most people will say, but what if things go wrong? And I think I got frustrated first-class MBA degree from life in when things go wrong. Because I'll tell you openly, I planned everything for Ali. Insurance policies on my life in his name. I had properties and real estate in his name. I had started businesses. So Ali changed majors three times.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

I would start a business in his major so that when he graduates, he runs it and then he dies. So seriously, most of us think that we have to over plan because life is not safe. right? I think you have to under plan because life is not safe. You really have to expect the best because otherwise if the worst happens, it doesn't matter if you're a millionaire or a billionaire or a trillionaire.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

I would start a business in his major so that when he graduates, he runs it and then he dies. So seriously, most of us think that we have to over plan because life is not safe. right? I think you have to under plan because life is not safe. You really have to expect the best because otherwise if the worst happens, it doesn't matter if you're a millionaire or a billionaire or a trillionaire.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

If something serious, I didn't know Steve Jobs myself, but I knew lots of people who knew him personally. And they'll all tell you the story of how in his last years, he finally understood that all of that, and I couldn't prevent this, All of the success, all of the money, all of the power, all of the influence. And he really saw it at the end.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

If something serious, I didn't know Steve Jobs myself, but I knew lots of people who knew him personally. And they'll all tell you the story of how in his last years, he finally understood that all of that, and I couldn't prevent this, All of the success, all of the money, all of the power, all of the influence. And he really saw it at the end.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

And he started to say some very wise things on his deathbed. And I think that's the idea. The idea is that instead of you worrying about life to the point that you constantly attempt to aggregate more and more to work against life, Maybe the only sure thing you have is that you're alive today and healthy today.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

And he started to say some very wise things on his deathbed. And I think that's the idea. The idea is that instead of you worrying about life to the point that you constantly attempt to aggregate more and more to work against life, Maybe the only sure thing you have is that you're alive today and healthy today.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

And so maybe instead of wasting today to aggregate so that you're safe tomorrow, why don't you live today? Who knows what will happen tomorrow?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

And so maybe instead of wasting today to aggregate so that you're safe tomorrow, why don't you live today? Who knows what will happen tomorrow?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

I wrote Unstressable because Alice, my co-author, said we should write it. She went to stress school. She really, really struggled in her early 20s. Everything, like she lost her sister to cancer, then her father to cancer, and then to an ulcer. And then before that, they lost all of their wealth and money and, you know, They had to sell their home. She lost her job because her company relocated.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

I wrote Unstressable because Alice, my co-author, said we should write it. She went to stress school. She really, really struggled in her early 20s. Everything, like she lost her sister to cancer, then her father to cancer, and then to an ulcer. And then before that, they lost all of their wealth and money and, you know, They had to sell their home. She lost her job because her company relocated.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

Her boyfriend drops her at the same time. It's like, it's really weird. And you see Alice today, freaking angel. She's so calm, so steady. And so I was basically in my typical Silicon Valley mindset. I was like, okay, show me a pilot, right? Few pages and let's see. At the same time, I went out and said, what do I know about stress?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Turning Personal Grief Into a Global Mission for Happiness | Mo Gawdat | E103

Her boyfriend drops her at the same time. It's like, it's really weird. And you see Alice today, freaking angel. She's so calm, so steady. And so I was basically in my typical Silicon Valley mindset. I was like, okay, show me a pilot, right? Few pages and let's see. At the same time, I went out and said, what do I know about stress?