Millie DiCerico
Appearances
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 30: The F*ck Word Murder Mystery Show
I'm Millie DiCerico. I'm a film programmer, historian, and writer.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 30: The F*ck Word Murder Mystery Show
And now we're teaming up on a brand new podcast called Dear Movies, I Love You.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 30: The F*ck Word Murder Mystery Show
Each week, Casey and I will have heated debates, give flawless recommendations, and talk about what's going on in cinema. Dear Movies, I Love You on Exactly Right is available right now. Listen every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 28: I 28 His Liver With Some Fava Beans and A Nice Chianti
I'm Millie DiCerico. I'm a film programmer, historian, and writer.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 28: I 28 His Liver With Some Fava Beans and A Nice Chianti
And now we're teaming up on a brand new podcast called Dear Movies, I Love You.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 28: I 28 His Liver With Some Fava Beans and A Nice Chianti
Each week, Casey and I will have heated debates, give flawless recommendations, and talk about what's going on in cinema. Dear Movies, I Love You on Exactly Right is available right now. Listen every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 27: Your Hometown Murder Email Round-Up
That's the only thing we can do.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 27: Your Hometown Murder Email Round-Up
I'm Millie DiCerico. I'm a film programmer, historian, and writer.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 27: Your Hometown Murder Email Round-Up
And now we're teaming up on a brand new podcast called Dear Movies, I Love You.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 27: Your Hometown Murder Email Round-Up
Each week, Casey and I will have heated debates, give flawless recommendations, and talk about what's going on in cinema. Dear Movies, I Love You on Exactly Right is available right now. Listen every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 26: Twenty Six Six Six
Why would somebody fake cancer?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 26: Twenty Six Six Six
I'm Millie DiCerico. I'm a film programmer, historian, and writer.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 26: Twenty Six Six Six
And now we're teaming up on a brand new podcast called Dear Movies, I Love You.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
Rewind with Karen & Georgia - Episode 26: Twenty Six Six Six
Each week, Casey and I will have heated debates, give flawless recommendations, and talk about what's going on in cinema. Dear Movies, I Love You on Exactly Right is available right now. Listen every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
465 - You’re Kidding Yourself, Supt
I'm Millie DiCerico. I'm a film programmer, historian, and writer.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
465 - You’re Kidding Yourself, Supt
And now we're teaming up on a brand new podcast called Dear Movies, I Love You.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
465 - You’re Kidding Yourself, Supt
Each week, Casey and I will have heated debates, give flawless recommendations, and talk about what's going on in cinema. Dear Movies, I Love You on Exactly Right is available right now. Listen every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
463 - We Are Never Brief
We thought she was God's gift, but she was a liar. Why would somebody fake cancer?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
463 - We Are Never Brief
But have you loved them? Like, really, really loved them? I'm Millie DeCherico. I'm a film programmer, historian, writer, and former co-host of I Saw What You Did.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
463 - We Are Never Brief
And now we're teaming up again to host our brand new film podcast, Dear Movies, I Love You. We're two unlikely friends coming together to pull off a big score. It's not unlike Jean-Pierre Melville's Le Cirque du Rouge.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
463 - We Are Never Brief
Each week, Casey and I will talk about what's going on in the world of cinema, from new releases in the theater to what we're streaming at home.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
462 - We Own This Table
Why would somebody fake cancer?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
462 - We Own This Table
New episodes Thursday nights on ABC and stream on Hulu. I'm Millie DiCerico. I'm a film programmer, historian, and writer.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
462 - We Own This Table
And now we're teaming up on a brand new podcast called Dear Movies, I Love You.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
462 - We Own This Table
Each week, Casey and I will have heated debates, give flawless recommendations, and talk about what's going on in cinema. Dear Movies, I Love You on Exactly Right is available right now. Listen every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
461 - Heed This Advice
Why would somebody fake cancer?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
461 - Heed This Advice
New episodes Thursday nights on ABC and stream on Hulu. I'm Millie DiCerico. I'm a film programmer, historian, and writer.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
461 - Heed This Advice
And now we're teaming up on a brand new podcast called Dear Movies, I Love You.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
461 - Heed This Advice
Each week, Casey and I will have heated debates, give flawless recommendations, and talk about what's going on in cinema. Dear Movies, I Love You on Exactly Right is available right now. Listen every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 416
You're not going to believe this. Scamanda. New episodes Thursday nights on ABC and stream on Hulu. I'm Millie DiCerico. I'm a film programmer, historian, and writer. And I'm Casey O'Brien, podcast producer, filmmaker, and lover of movies.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 416
We want to talk about all the movies we're crushing on, from hidden gems to blockbuster favorites.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 417
Why would somebody fake cancer?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 417
I'm Millie DiCerico. I'm a film programmer, historian, and writer.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 417
And now we're teaming up on a brand new podcast called Dear Movies, I Love You.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Minisode 417
Each week, Casey and I will have heated debates, give flawless recommendations, and talk about what's going on in cinema. Dear Movies, I Love You on Exactly Right is available right now. Listen every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
It was an offensive amount of time that went by. Let me just tell you right now. I had not only fretted you, but I'd actually commented on one of your reviews. I know.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I was like, okay, we work on a film podcast together. We're like in communication pretty much every other day. I know. I friended this guy because I want him to feel included in what we're fucking doing around here. And it took him a year. To follow me back. Anyway, I'm just, I'm just saying. Sure. That broke me for a while, but then you, it fixed itself and I forgive you.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
And now we're obviously doing a podcast together.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I've let it go. Well, and like, there's other functionality on there too. Like you can come up with lists. I'm a big list person.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I also, you know, like I actually love the review component because there are people, like I said, who are using it like as like they're writing for Roger Deaver dot com type of thing.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
But then there are people who are like putting one, two sentences about, you know, the thing that they've watched. That's how I do it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Oh, I know. And a lot of times it's like, and this is the way I do it, but other people do it this way too. It's like the funniest observation about a movie.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
And I actually had one go sort of vi-vi, I got to say. Wow. My review for A Complete Unknown, where I talked about, I don't know if you've seen it yet. I won't spoil it. Haven't seen it. Wow. There's a moment of that movie that happens, which is a non-spoiler. Sure. But it was like the weirdest thing to me. That was like the one thing I couldn't stop thinking about.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
And then I wrote it and then all of a sudden it's like ping, ping, ping. Everyone's like, we love it. We love the review. So that's what I like about Letterboxd is that it's kind of like, again, I think it's a high-low scenario where you can either be really like deliberate and professional about it or you can be a fucking goon like me.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
That's right. I mean, if Letterboxd wants to give us a check, we'll take it. But I'm just saying, this is what we're going to be using. Let's go into this film diary. Fabulous. So in the past week, I've gone down this kind of strange rabbit hole. So I discovered this Japanese director recently, and I don't actually know how I discovered him.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I feel like I'm following some kind of Instagram account that's like an Asian film archive. I think it's actually what it's called. And they posted a trailer or something about this movie. And the movie is called Haru. H-A-R-U. Okay. It was directed by this Japanese director. His name is Yoshimitsu Morita.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
This movie's from 1996, and for some reason, when I saw the trailer, I was like, this seems so charming. Like, I think his filmography, if I'm not mistaken, I'm not, like, a scholar on him yet, but he was making movies in... Like, most of his movies came out in, like, the 80s and 90s, which is a real, for me, kind of, like, a gap.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Also, we're going to talk about drinking in the movies. So, you know, movies that feature complete drunks or people that are trying to get off the stuff, whatever it is, we're going to be talking about it. But we're also going to really, like, hammer into one movie in particular, and that is 2018's A Star is Born, featuring Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I don't... I have... You know, I started thinking, like, have I watched a lot of Japanese movies from the 80s and 90s? Like...
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
And then as the more I kind of was reading about him and sort of that era, I think actually, and like I said, I don't want to say that this is the general attitude, but I've read that, you know, people kind of actually perceive that Japanese filmmaking in the 80s wasn't very good. Like they weren't making good movies generally in the 80s.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
And so I came into it going, okay, so this is supposed to be like an era of like bad Japanese filmmaking, yet I walked into this movie and was like completely charmed by it. It's essentially a movie. I mean, this movie is probably like as close to this film podcast as we can get. It's essentially a woman who is a cinephile.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
She's a single woman, a school teacher living in Japan. And she's a cinephile. And then she gets on like a movie message board. And this is 96. So this is early internet days.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I know.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah, and it basically, it's like, a lot of the movie is there kind of like literally on screen, like sending messages on the message board. It's like her and this other person.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
And the other person at first is, you know, kind of presents as a woman, but then it's actually a man, you know, because back in the day you could really fool people about being, you know, like, I mean, I guess you could still catfish people now.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah, thriving. But back in, like, 96, man, you could literally be anybody. And so they kind of developed this, you know, I don't know, this online sort of epistolary relationship. And they're kind of like, he's in a bad marriage, or he's in a kind of weird spot in his life, and they just kind of bond together. And it's this kind of, like, you got mail in Japan in the 90s over the internet.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
And I'm like... Oh, it was lovely.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah, and then I actually watched another one because I liked Haru so much. So there's this movie that he made in 1984 called Main Theme. And I got to tell you, I don't think it's online anywhere. I had to go through, you know, the dark web. The dark web.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Always. Yeah, I mean, actually, I get my groceries from the dark web.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
You know, it's, you know. I just use it for everything now. Why not? Yeah. But this movie main theme, oh my God, that movie was also incredible. It was also kind of a romance, but it had this like super whimsical, it was kind of like an Umbrellas of Schoenberg feel. Yeah, yeah. And it was, the colors were amazing.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I don't know, just the setups, the camera work, the colors, the costumes, everything. I was like, who the hell is this director and why have I just figured him out?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
So what about you? Now you've got to tell me.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
And we might even talk a little bit about Bradley Cooper as a director as well.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Are you a twilight? Were you indoctrinated?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
You'll be surprised to know I'm a little bit of a Twilight apologist. I've watched all of them.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I mean, I was a grown-ass woman in a full-time job when those movies came out. I have no business. But, you know, here's what I will say about that. I actually kind of feel that I might like them better now knowing who Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart became. True. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely. Like, I go backwards now and I'm like, oh, these are like two cool people making cool films.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Like, I don't know. They made a bunch of teen shit. It's kind of cool. I don't know.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I agree.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Oh, yes. We had a very emotional conversation with Shalewa about a topic that is near and dear to all of our hearts, which is the Magic Mike franchise.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I will not confuse it with Black Moth Super Rainbow, which is a band from Pennsylvania.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Okay, get it right.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
What are you asking me right now? What? You've seen Salute Your Shorts? Are you fucking kidding me, dude? I've seen like every episode of that shit. Okay, doesn't Ugg say- Yeah, get it right or pay the price. Okay, okay. Ugg says it, yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Because Buttnick screwed it up.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Good movie.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Wait, move your face away from the microphone. I mean, he's like... A little bit.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I would say you're a little bit Casey Affleck meets Bill Skarsgård. Okay, okay.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah, and maybe it's because your name is Casey.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
You just happen to look like all the hottest men in Hollywood right now, and I do not. That's what I'm trying to underscore.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Okay, so that was our film diary. How'd you feel? Good? First one?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Well, okay, now we're moving into our main discussion, which is, again, like I said, 2018's A Star is Born. We're going to talk about drinking and movies. But first, Casey, I have a question for you. Do you participate in what they call dry January?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Ah, yes.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Sure. Okay. Okay. That makes sense. I was thinking about this, obviously, because it's such a huge topic right now. Yeah. Because we're at the beginning of the new year. Happy 2025. And a lot of my friends are doing this dry January thing.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
White knuckling it. Yeah. It's so interesting because I'm kind of like, okay, A, when did we start? Like, I don't remember dry January when I was a kid. Like, I don't remember people's parents.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Yeah. Yeah. And then it's sort of that feeling, too, where I'm like, I get that it's in sort of the mode of, you know, we're in a New Year's resolution phase where we're trying to be better people for a little while and then it all falls apart. But I'm also, like, I guess it's because I... I'm not like a huge drinker. So I don't need a dry January, if you know what I mean.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Well, so it got me thinking, you know, because, you know, it's our first episode. It's the first of the new year. And so I was like kind of thinking, let's maybe talk a little bit about, you know, classic movie drunks. Sure. Like movies about drinking and, you know. Not all of it is fun all the time. Yeah. Like charismatic drunks, but mean drunk. Yeah. And, you know, the whole gamut.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Well, and, like, so I started thinking about, like, what was the last movie that I remember seeing that just really was truly about alcoholism, the darkest alcoholic? Like, maybe a movie you'd watch that would inspire you to adopt a dry January.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Like, something really hardcore. And I was like, I think the last one I saw was A Star Is Born, the remake, the most recent remake of it. Yes. Which was such a juggernaut when it came out. Did you not feel that?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Welcome, everyone, to Dear Movies, I Love You. This is a podcast for those who are in a romantic relationship with film.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah, yeah. Like, so I decided that I was going to rewatch it, actually, during the Christmas break because I think it was on, like, I don't know, Paramount. You know how it's just like movies. I was like, oh, cool, a nice holiday movie where Bradley Cooper drinks himself to death. Amazing. So I watched it at my parents' house, and I gotta say, it's still really enjoyable.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
And here's the thing that I thought was really interesting about this version of it, because if you don't know, I don't know how you wouldn't at this point. A Star is Born is this very storied franchise, really, at this point. Yeah. It almost seems like it gets remade every 20, 30 years. The original, the very first A Star Is Born, was made in 1937. And it was a William Wellman movie.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I'm a huge fan of William Wellman, the director. And that is my actual favorite version of the story. Wow. Is the 37. Because... First of all, it's like, well, it's the original, meaning the story, you know, sort of is contained in its own, like, little universe, right? But also, the lead actor of that film, Frederick March, who is... I don't know if listeners really know Frederick March.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I mean, he's kind of... He's a very famous actor of the 30s, but, you know, isn't like a Gary Cooper type. He was very, you know, like, kind of... Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
That's right. I am one of your hosts, Milita Cherico. I used to host a film podcast.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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It was called I Saw What You Did.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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It was on this very network. It's probably on the feed that you're listening to right now.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah, you can go back and listen to all 200-something episodes of it if you want to. But I did that podcast with my co-host, Daniel Henderson, who is one of my dearest friends. And Casey, you were a part of that podcast too. You were actually the producer of that podcast, right?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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That's right. I mean, you know, it's not unlike A Star Is Born, if you think about it. I did find you in a total dump. Plucked you out of obscurity and put you on. That's right. But anyway, the thing about doing a podcast with you is that this is like a new thing. I'm very excited by it. I know a little bit about you.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah. I was absolutely delighted that Andrew Dice Clay played her dad. Incredible. Right? Absolutely incredible. He was great in it. And considering like how obnoxious he was, like in his heyday, the fact that he just was like some like dad in a movie really like made me kind of happy. I was like, oh, he's like, you know, I don't know. He's back.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And he's like Lady Gaga's dad who like drives a limo or whatever. I don't even know what he does. But yeah, she was really great in it. And I, you know, again, like that's the thing about A Star Is Born. It attempts to take that kind of like
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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famous diva of the era and put her in that role right so it's like you know we got Judy Garland we've got Barbra Streisand I mean the first one you know I wasn't alive in the 30s so I don't know if Janet Gaynor was the Lady Gaga of the 30s or whatever I don't believe so but that's the thing is that like it kind of could have been many other people but Lady Gaga yeah be this role were you ever influenced to drink an alcoholic drink based on seeing it in a movie
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
Yes, I drank a white Russian after I saw Big Lebowski. I did that too. Thought it was kind of nasty, to be honest.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Do you eat the pearl onion? You can.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I love martini olives. They're great. Oh man, I'm like, yo, put like 12 of them shits on a stick and I'm just gonna dunk.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I'm gonna dunk the olive in the martini drink and just eat them. They're so delicious.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
MFM Presents…Dear Movies, I Love You
I like the eating component, though. That's what I like about martinis.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Since you have a terrible memory involving anything with me, it was at the Chinese Multiplex in Hollywood. Okay. And you were about to see, was it a movie with Rod Steiger? No, it was Paul Newman, The Hustler. That's right. I got you and your wife, Tricia, into the movie.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And that was the first time I'd ever met you, even though you had been recording the podcast for a while before that, right?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Absolutely. Absolutely. Alrighty, that was our discussion of A Star is Born and getting hammered in film. So now it's time for our guest segment, which we're calling My Area of Expertise. So this is where we're going to bring on a guest, usually somebody funny and cool, I hope. Always cool.
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Yeah. Well, we're setting a high bar with the funny because Shalai was an incredible comedian and But, you know, normally what would happen is we're going to bring on somebody, they're going to discuss this like hyper-specific area that they are an expert in when it comes to movies, right? And since we spoke about, you know, the...
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I won't say I know everything about you, but I do know that you've got a lot of film bonafides, which makes you qualified to host podcasts with me, wouldn't you say?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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modern iteration of A Star Is Born, which is a movie about music, obvi. We're going to bring on a guest to talk about, you know, this area of their expertise that's also sort of another example of like a modern cinematic fantasia. The Magic Mike franchise, I think you know. Our first guest is a wonderful human being, and I am not at all lying about that in any way, shape, or form.
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I've known this woman for so, so long. She originally is an Atlanta comedian who has been in New York for decades at this point, I would say. And very funny, she does stand-up all over the country, all over the world, to be honest, and also has this incredible podcast. called The War Report that she does with a fellow comic named Gastor Almonte.
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They're very funny together, and she's just a wonderful human being, and I want to bring her on the pod. So, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Shalewa Sharp. Yay!
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I will say this, though. Not to say that we were not good friends before this, but I feel like the event that really crystallized our friendship in a deep, meaningful way is that Playboy article slash interview with John Mayer that came out many years ago.
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Like, I think the biggest topics in that moment were the fact that Jessica Simpson had been called sexual napalm. Remember, I know we talked about that. And that he called his penis racist.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Which I think was the biggest... That was, like, issue number one.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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We like to bring people on and talk about, you know, an area of their film expertise, right? Like, have you gone really hard on like a specific director or a specific genre? Are you like very well versed in, you know, a certain type of film or like a franchise of some kind? And so when I asked you this question and you replied, yes, I do have an expertise.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And then you told me what the expertise was. I was thrilled. Let's just say that.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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And I think that because Casey and I both share this passion as well. Oh, good. So I feel like we're going to have an incredible debate slash... Debate. I think there's going to be a debate because I feel like over the course... I mean, let's just say it. Shalewa, what is your area of expertise that you'd like to talk about today?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yes.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Okay, I would like to, first and foremost, I would like to establish a timeline, if you'll bear with me. Okay. Let's establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Did it start with the Step Up films, or did you know him prior to that? How did you enter the universe via Channing Tatum?
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It is my kryptonite. I've gone on record. I cannot.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Well, this is kind of the trajectory that I think is really interesting about this franchise because it's like, okay, the first movie was kind of a dark drama in certain parts. And it was really mostly about... the Alex Pettifer character who was kind of like, like cause Channing Tatum, like magical Michael, if you will. Well, yes. He was already in the world. Yeah.
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And then you as a viewer were with the Adam character, the Alex Pettifer character who was like, I'm new to this. I need some extra cash. I guess I'm going to like start, you know, down this road of exotic dancing and drugs and women and all this stuff. And that was kind of more about his descent into the world.
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And so there was a serious moment, you know, or two, but it was like, it was really his story. Yeah. And then when the second one came out... Oh, right.
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They basically were like, well... The public has spoken. We have heard the requests. Nothing, no more serious stuff. We don't care about this. Who the fuck cares about Adam? We might as well kill him off.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Put him in an ice cream truck and let him travel around the South.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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America loves it.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Magic, magic, magic. Yes. Well, what I think is also really fascinating about the second one too, is that they introduced this Jada Pinkett Smith. Speak on it. Mansion of exotic dancing men, like whatever this private club was. And that in and of itself is, has a lore that needs its own movie. Totally. Like that house needs to have its own franchise.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah, it'd be like an Amazon freebie original.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Listen, like you might be wondering, I mean, I think obviously if you're a fan of I Saw What You Did, you have heard many episodes where Danielle and I had talked about, you know, film bros, you know, you know the type, film bros.
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They were like a boy band. It was like following a boy band. Like it was like... Yeah, the Matt Bomber character was kind of this like Ed Kowalczyk-y, like kombucha, Eastern religion guy. And you're like, why did that happen? Yeah. And then, you know, you've got like the Big Dick Richie story. I mean, even like the... Fucking Kevin Nash had a moment. Right. He's a painter. Yes. He's an artist.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yes.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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a zoom call or something i was so offended by that i was i was like i am walking out of this theater and i saw the third one in london oh wow i was actually in england the weekend that it came out and i was like i feel like i'm in the story you know whatever why in london don't know why um and then when that happened i was like you're meaning to tell me that the
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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The boys, the gang are going to be relegated to a fucking Zoom that was like all stuttering and like, you know, bad Wi-Fi. I was like, this is an insult, an insult to the second one.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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We're trying to like, you know, bring some other people to the table. And so for me, the idea that I would be hosting a new film podcast with a guy who went to film school, you know, might be kind of unexpected, but guess what? You're a good one. You're not a film bro. Thank you. You're not a film bro. I will stand by that a thousand percent.
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Do you feel like this franchise could either be rebooted at some future point, maybe even completely different people. Right. You know how they do now. Or there'll be like a fourth movie way into the future that could be done. Maybe it is like a Netflix thing or something. Like, do you feel like that's at all possible? Any future with this franchise at all?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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What if they got Nicholas Galatzine to be... Oh, Nicholas Galatzine?
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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What if he was Magic Mike? The son of Magic Mike.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Oh, my Lord. I'm going to cash up my 401k. And if you guys co-write the screenplay, I will fund whatever. I will fund the production. That's great. Yeah.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Well, Shalane, well, listen, we really, really appreciate you coming on the pod to give your takes, your expertise on the Magic Mike franchise. If people want to find you online or do you have any shows coming up? What's all that info?
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Great. Yeah, no, and then War Report, I gotta say, such a great podcast. You and Castro are absolutely hilarious. It's more like a current affairs, like, you know, news of the day kind of podcast that comes, like, on, what, every week? You guys do bonus.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I'll just be plain honest with you. I have no idea what you just said. I've never seen Star Trek in my entire life. That's fine.
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Man, I've known her for so long. We have been bros for so long that it's kind of like, I don't know, it's effervescent when I talk to her. And I'm just glad now you know each other.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yeah, for sure.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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Yo, yo, it made me want to change the theme of the podcast to just doing one about the Magic Mike franchise, so there you go.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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First of all, you're fired. Your mom is hired to close this podcast with me. My mom's a pioneer.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I gotta tell you, I think it explains a lot about you, to be honest. That is wonderful. She's like a fucking suffragette or something. I love it.
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Wow. That's like, and honestly, were you ever able to create an employee pick at all in any of your jobs? Cause I take that shit real seriously.
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Of course. Listen, I think we're ironing out the rest of your life here.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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I worked at many record stores. I worked at Tower Records. That was such a huge responsibility because that was in a very prominent location in the store. I mean, it's Tower Records, of course. And I was like your mom. I was like, this is such a moment for me. As one of the only women that work in a store, a music store, I was like, I'm doing research. I'm going to do things unexpected.
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I'm not doing it like the other guys do it. So needless to say, this is the employee picks. is such a part of video store culture. So we wanted to kind of replicate something like that because we just thought it would be really cool.
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Yeah. So Millie, why don't you give your your pick first? So my employee pick for this week, because we are talking about dry January and drinking and films, is actually about alcoholism. It's kind of a bummer, not going to lie. But it's a film from 1952, and it's called Comeback Little Sheba, directed by the great Daniel Mann.
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This is a movie that stars Burt Lancaster and Shirley Booth, who is one of my favorite actresses in classic Hollywood. If you like Shirley Booth, email us at dearmovies at exactlyrightmedia.com. We are going to be friends if you like Shirley Booth. But it's a movie about this married couple. You know, obviously, Burt Lancaster, Shirley Booth, married couple.
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And Burt Lancaster is an alcoholic and he's in recovery. And it was one of the first or maybe the first time that Alcoholics Anonymous AA was ever mentioned in a film. So it kind of has a little bit of historical relevance because of that, but it's a heartbreaker, man. And I love a fucking 50s weepy. I love these types of films. There's no, like, Frederick March being a charming, joyous drunk.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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This is straight up, like, I hate my life because I can't have a drink, and I don't know if I want to be married anymore, and now I've got to watch my husband feel this way. And it's just a... Bummer of a film, but it is a great film, and I feel like it's not talked about enough, so there's that. That's my rec.
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We did. We did. I'm excited. This is going to be so fun. I know. We hope you enjoyed it.
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We love hearing your voices. Like the accents are fantastic.
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You know what I'm saying? I agree. And I also think it's important to say that, you know, I mean, I think obviously the title of this podcast, Dear Movies, I Love You, the icon that pops up when you pull it up on your podcast platform, you know, the idea that one of our favorite bands of all time, the Softies, has done the wonderful theme song.
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It all contributes to this idea of, again, having a crush on a film, having an emotional relationship to movies, and how movies are a big part of people's lives, and they help them through hard times and good times. I mean, I cry all the time in movies, and they don't have to be sad. I cry at happy movies. I cry at sweet movies. I cry at... you know, violent films. Sure.
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I am such an emotional person that I, you know, I've realized this over several years of therapy. I'm a very emotional person. And I think kind of what you're alluding to, like, with the things that you've just said, is that, like, a lot of times, you know...
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Film is one of those mediums where people feel like they got to be like super analytical or they have, you know, they got to come at it in a very kind of sterile way in order to seem legitimate or something. And I'm like, fuck that. We should be talking about our crush on movies and talking about how much we love it and how much they get us through our lives and how they're a part of our lives.
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Oh, great. I mean, you know what we're doing right now?
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So that's what it's going to be, guys. It's not going to be this whole like, well, the box office numbers from 1989 show that this movie did 5% better. Fuck that. I mean, if that comes up, it comes up. But for the most part, you know, we're going to be a little sensitivo.
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It all totally makes sense. I mean, we are intellectuals.
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We're not unlike John Wick. If you know what I mean.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
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That's right. But you know what also I like about you, Casey, and part of the reason why I poached you from the film podcast streets to be on a podcast with me, I like that you understand that high art and low art, they both are able to sit at the same table. You know what I'm saying?
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if I were to like talk about my own career and the things that I've done, like programming and writing and things like, you know, sort of being sort of general film historian type, I think that that's kind of how I approach. That's how I approach film is that I'm like, I want to speak in a smart intellectual kind of, I don't know, competent way about all kinds of shit.
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That's right. Yeah, this is our very first episode, and we're really excited because we've got a lot of stuff to cover. First off, we're going to kick off the show with something we're calling Film Diary. And I was wondering, Casey, can you tell them what it is?
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It can be highbrow, but it also, there is a way to talk about show girls and Ed Wood and, you know, Yeah. Like, truly depraved cinema at the same time that you talk about, I don't know, more sort of intellectual affair, the kind of criterion collection-y type of things, if you will.
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To me, that's kind of what I like about us both is that we're able to kind of get you a man that can do both type of feeling.
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We just wanted to do a little intention setting before we, you know, rolled out all the other episodes. But hopefully you're on the ride with us. I mean, if you liked I Saw What You Did, you're going to like this podcast. So we're excited. There we go. We're excited to be here.
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I'm a user, of course. I talked about this on my sub stack once about how I probably use Letterboxd in the wrong way, which is that I'm not like consistently using. So here's Letterboxd, right? If you haven't been on it before, before, it's basically a way for you to kind of catalog the movies that you've seen.
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You know, there's an ability to rate it like five star, you know, one to five stars or no stars. You can leave reviews. There's a kind of social component to where you can friend other people and see what they've been watching and see what they've been reviewing. So it's kind of just like a big social media platform for movie nerds.
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And there are definitely power users out there who are writing like thousand word essays on every movie they've seen.
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I am real loosey-goosey about it. I definitely catalog everything that I've seen. So my film diary is always accurate. Am I reviewing things all the time? No. Am I writing intelligent things in those reviews? No. Am I rating it with the star system? No. Not all the time. That's another topic for another time, by the way, is the star rating system on Letterboxd.
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Maybe that's a film grape we can talk about.
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Because it's very contentious, and I've gotten called out on it before. But please friend us on there, because it's a way for us. We're going to be talking about Letterboxd a lot, because this is, again, where we're cataloging what we've seen. But first and foremost, I have to say, Casey, I don't know if you remember this at all,
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The people must know that it took you a very long time to friend me back on Letterboxd.