Michael Chernus
đ€ SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
There are, and that was, in my opinion, very true of the actual man. And so I knew that the role would be a real challenge in that regard. But I had this great initial meeting with Patrick. He told me that there would be no murders on camera, that we were focusing on the victims, that there would be these short stories in every episode. Then he said to me, like, I hope you're okay with, you're not going to be in it.
all the time and I was like thank god that's such a relief because like to have to embody John Gacy all the time uh just felt like maybe something I didn't want to take on just for like personal mental health reasons you know you've been told that you look like him and is that
TÀssÀ ja sieltÀ ihmiset sanoisivat sitÀ, ja se ei ole suurin kappale, mutta ihmiset sanoisivat, ettÀ olet nÀyttÀnyt sellaisella taitoilijalla. Voit nÀhdÀ, jos joku kirjoittaisi teille elokuvan tai elokuvan. Se oli aina mielessÀni. Gabriel, sinulla on osa tehtÀvÀÀ, joka oli erittÀin tÀrkeÀ rooli todellisessa elokuvassa.
have that same trajectory. Absolutely. Yeah. Casey's final victim, Rob Piest, fell under the jurisdiction of a suburban police department. And so in that way was one of Casey's many mistakes at the end where he abducted this boy from Des Plaines and that police department had the energy and the time to focus on this case.
Ja minusta tÀmÀ kuulostaa erityisesti tÀlle tarinalle, ettÀ se voi olla sinun lÀÀkÀrÀsi tai joku, joka pysyvÀt paikallaan, ja kuinka ylipÀÀtÀnsÀ pöydÀn ja normaaleja nÀmÀ tilaajat ovat. Jotkut, kyllÀ, noin 90 prosenttia niistÀ.
KyllÀ, se on todella vaikeaa saada Charlie Manson tai Night Stalker, jotka nÀyttÀvÀt ihan kuin taitoja. Niin kuin, jatketaan! Mutta kyllÀ, joskus se on vain yllÀttÀvÀ, rauhallinen, poliittinen lÀÀkÀri, joka tarjoaa sinulle jÀrjestelmÀÀ. Joka on tullut kÀyntiin ensimmÀisellÀ naisella. KyllÀ. Ja muuten, sinÀ tappasit ÀÀntÀ.
Oh, thanks. That means a lot. I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio, which is not exactly the same as the Chicago accident, but just I know that sort of like cadence and rhythm and melody of the kind of folksy Midwestern. And, you know, sometimes it's, you know, there are some scenes where it's very present and some scenes where it's not. And I was very much on purpose because like I feel like
MeidÀn version of gay seats we were playing with is like leaning into that kind of, ah shucks folksy kind of, you know, I'm so harmless, you know. That was good. Yeah. That was really good. I would like to cooperate with you boys. Help out in any way that I can.
No, you were asking earlier what's something that we took away about our character. I feel like there was some amount of... I had to find some kind of... I certainly don't have empathy or sympathy for the man. And I feel like there's this thing amongst actors where it's like no matter who you play, you have to find a way in to love your character. To understand. To understand your character. If you're playing the worst person who ever lived, you have to...
Ja tÀmÀ oli ensimmÀinen, ja minÀ olen aina uskonut sitÀ, kuten drama-koulussa, ja nyt tuntuu, ettÀ se on BS. EhkÀ minÀ... HÀn oli ihmisen elÀmÀ, se on totta. HÀn elÀi ja oli kÀrsivÀ. Ja niin miten...
How do you make that final leap? And I don't know. Some of it was just like the imagination and creativity of an actor. And I think if we're talking about what draws people to true crime, sometimes I think it's that. These things that just don't make sense. These senseless stories, these murders. And we're trying to make sense out of it, right? We want there to be a hero who solved it. We want there to be a reason why he did it, a motive. Yes.
aina kloun kloun kloun, jota Gacy on tuntenut. En tiedÀ, voimmeko kertoa, mutta sinÀ ei koskaan nÀe tÀysin kloun. En koskaan nÀe minua tÀysin, tÀysin kuvassa kloun. Ja se oli erittÀin, erittÀin suunnitelmallista. Luulen, ettÀ yksi asia, jota kysyin ensimmÀisessÀ keskustelussa, oli, kuinka paljon klouni nÀet, koska
I was not interested in that part of the story. And it's part of the story I feel like that got overdone in the 70s because it sold newspapers and, you know, the killer clown and it was something unique and obviously super creepy, but it was, it actually is a, it's...
It was a small part of who he was. You know, you didn't need it, though. Like, you were still creepy and scary and all of it. You don't have to be in a clown costume to freak people out. Yeah, but I agree. I mean, I think that the clown is the least creepy thing about John Casey.
Ja jos mitÀÀn, luulen, ettÀ se on tehty paljon huolta, koska se on hienosti sopiminut hÀnen kuvansa tai ihmisoiminut hÀnet. Koska vaikka me klownit olemme hauskoja, se on myös sellaista lapsenlaista innoissuutta. Ja luulen, ettÀ se on auttanut hÀnen kulttipersonaaliinsa ja miten osa heidÀn kulttipersonaaliinsa ymmÀrsi hÀnet.
I think it was one of the many things we were hoping to do with this is kind of rewrite the story on him and be like, this guy's not cool. There's nothing interesting about him. Like, there was nothing redeeming about this man. When you researched the victims and their families, what really stood out to you the most before you started all of this? How young they all were.
KyllÀ, se on hyvÀ asia. 70-luvun aikana oli sellainen julkaistus onnistumisesta, ja se oli kutsuttu niin, ettÀ he olivat rikkoja tai rikkoja, tai ettÀ oli jonkinlainen julkaistus onnistumisesta, joka mahdollisti ihmisiÀ vÀhentÀmÀÀn itseÀÀn ihmisyydestÀ.
KyllÀ, ja se oli yksi monista asioista. Suomalaisen viittomana Rob Piestin aikana paperi sanoi, ettÀ tÀmÀ oli hyvÀ tyyppi hyvÀÀ kotiaan, ja jotenkin kaikki olivat kiinnostuneita. Mutta Patrickin sanoi, ettÀ yksi asia, joka tuntui minulle myös, oli se, ettÀ hÀnen viittomiaan olivat erilaisia asioita. YleensÀ he olivat alaikÀisistÀ, vihreÀkkÀistÀ kotia, paljon erilaisista kaupungista. Jotkut olivat seksikÀyttÀjiÀ, mutta jotkut eivÀt. Jotkut olivat suomalaisia, jotkut eivÀt. Jotkut ymmÀrsivÀt, kuka he olivat.
LÀhtökohtaisesti se oli luultavasti ensimmÀinen lÀhtökohtainen lÀhtökohtainen Illinoisin valtiolla. He olivat siis muuttuneet lÀhtökohtaisesti. KyllÀ, se on sellainen tapauksena, jossa tutkijat sanovat, ettÀ pysypÀÀ.
LÀhtökohtaisuus on nyt tÀÀllÀ, kuolemattomuus. PÀÀstÀkÀÀ puuttelemaan. KyllÀ. Ja se oli iso juttu silloin. SiellÀ oli protestit toisistaan. SiellÀ oli ihmisiÀ, jotka protestoivat kuolemattomuudestaan. Ja sitten oli ihmisiÀ, jotka olivat erittÀin pro-kuolemattomuus. Ja niin se oli koko mediacirkus. Niin paljon asioita oli tÀllÀ hetkellÀ.