Matthew Peaty
Appearances
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Und es gibt keine bessere Ausdruckung davon als Jimmy Cagney, der in den letzten 20er-Jahren ein Gangster gespielt hat. 1935 starb er in einem Film namens »G-Men« und er war ein FBI-Agent. Das machte also einen Wechsel zwischen den Kriminellen als Favoriten und den »G-Mens«.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Die Statute von Rico kam, glaube ich, in den 60er- oder 70er-Jahren. Hoover wurde immer verurteilt. Ich glaube, er hat es etwas falsch verurteilt, die Existenz organisierter Krimi und der Mafia zu verurteilen. Ich glaube, er hat sie als Macht erkannt.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Aber in der Zeit, in der ich über die 30er-Jahre spreche, waren die Mafia und die Möbster, die Möbster der großen Städte, involviert in Prostitution, Gambling. Alkohol, Drogen, you know, big money stuff. The Dillingers and Bonnie and Clydes of the world, they operated mostly in the countryside. They robbed banks in small towns.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Maybe they hid out in the big city, but they were really kind of what I will call rural outlaws. So there was a real demarcation between the mafia in the big cities and the rural outlaws in the countryside. And the reality is the FBI was a very small agency.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
in den 30ern, 300 Agenten, jetzt sind es, ich weiß nicht, 30.000 oder so, aber sie waren in keiner Position, die Mob und Mafia in New York, Detroit, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Chicago, all these towns, ich meine, sie hätten nicht sogar die Möglichkeit gehabt, einen Stoff in es zu legen. Und es war nicht für Jahrzehnte, wirklich, bis in die 70er und 80er, 40, 50 Jahre,
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
It kind of depended on what was going on in the country. So in the 30s you had the public enemies, so he made it his mission to subdue them. Late 30s, early 40s you had a lot of Nazi saboteurs in the US, World War II coming, so the FBI went after the Nazi elements in the US.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Der Postkrieg war die Antikommunist-Ära, und Hoover war ein virulenter Antikommunist, also hat er wirklich nach Kommunisten in der föderalen Regierung in den 50er- und 60er-Jahren gefolgt. Das war die Ära des Kampusunrestes und der sozialen Proteste, also hat er nach den Kampusprotestanten und Leuten wie Martin Luther King gefolgt.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Es ist also interessant zu spekulieren, als ob Hoover heute noch wohnen würde. wie er seine Saiten trainieren würde. Ich habe das noch nie gedacht, aber es ist eine interessante Spekulation.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Yeah, I think so. You know, it used to be that the FBI was hated by the liberals and loved by the conservatives. And it's sort of flipped around.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Yeah, and that was by design, by Hoover's design. Hoover wanted... um die öffentliche Seite der FBI zu sein und damit zu verabschieden. Er hat seinen Namen auf dem Gebäude, er ist noch da. Und er wollte, dass seine Agenten anonym sind. Partly he said that was for their own protection, because if their names became known, then they'd become targets for the criminals.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
I think it was mostly, he was sort of a publicity hound, and he didn't want anyone upstaging him, and that was Melvin Purvis' misfortune, is that Melvin Purvis, which you're right, he's probably the only FBI man other than Hoover, whose name might be recalled today, if you're into that genre of crime.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Auch wenn es nicht wahr ist, war er von den Triggermann, die Dillinger und Pretty Boy Floyd erschossen haben. Er hat es auch nicht getan. Er war dort, er war in Bezug auf die Operation, aber er war nicht der echte Triggerman. Aber er wurde in der Presse gefeiert, als der Kerl, der Dillinger bekam, der Kerl, der Pretty Boy Floyd bekam. Er wurde sehr berühmt. Hoover wurde sehr traurig.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Hoover hat Melvin Purvis sehr gerne gefreut, hat ihn zu einem Top-Level-Agent gegrümmt, hat ihn als Chef des Chicago Field Offices gemacht, das war Ground Zero im Krieg gegen Warren. Aber Purvis hat sich nicht gefreut. Und Hoover schlug ihn aus der FBI aus und verhandelte gegen ihn seit vielen Jahrzehnten.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Und später in der Leben, würden sie J. Edgar Hoover fragen, was der Highlight deiner Karriere war. He would always say, the night we got Dillinger.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Up until that time, Dillinger had escaped several times the FBI's clutches and had embarrassed the Bureau because he was surrounded, ambushed and somehow he got away and the public was saying, if they don't catch Dillinger soon, maybe we ought to return primary law enforcement to the local level. Diese FEDs scheinen nicht zu wissen, was sie tun.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Aber sie haben Dillinger schlussendlich zu einem Theater in Chicago getrackt, haben ihn außerhalb des Biograph-Theaters bekommen und das hat Hoover und die FBI wirklich in Yes, yes, I agree.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
You know, I really wrote the book to give some recognition to these anonymous younger agents who worked under Hoover. And, you know, they didn't set out to be heroes. They didn't know what they were getting into. As I said, they wanted to be desk men, but they got this job and it became a very dangerous job. And a lot of them, you know, you might have thought, Hey, I didn't sign up for this.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
I'm out of here. But they didn't. They stuck with it. They pursued their men. They got their men in the end. And it's really a story of how fairly Ordinary people thrust into extraordinary circumstances can accomplish extraordinary things. And what they did was extraordinary.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
They brought down these criminals within two or three years and made the world or at least the country safer for democracy, etc. Are you thinking of one in particular when you reflect that way or not? As a group, I mean, there were several favorites. I had a guy named Tom McDade, who I got to know his son. who gave me a diary that McDade had written back then.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
It's the only diary of an FBI agent from the 30s of its type in existence. And it's very entertaining. He talks about trying to get dates with women and going to the movies and playing poker with the group. And then the next day he's out being shot at by Babyface Nelson. So later in life he becomes a crime writer and a crime historian. Er war vielleicht mein Lieblings-anonymer FBI-Agent.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Erzähl mir noch einen, ich bin gespannt. Jim Metcalf. Er wollte zuerst Priester werden. Er ging zu Notre Dame. Er wurde in Deutschland geboren. Er kam hierher, als er ein Baby war. Dann wollte er Poet werden. Er ging zur Night-Law-Schule, setzte sich durch die Law-Schule, verkaufte Insurance und so weiter, verkaufte Autos, obwohl er nicht wusste, wie man ein Auto fahren kann.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Er musste lernen, wie man ein Auto fahren kann, als er ein FBI-Agent wurde. Er war eine leise Seele, ein Poet, aber er war in der Nähe von vielen der öffentlichen Enemies, Chasen. He ends up leaving the FBI and becoming a poet in later life, writing a daily column of poetry for one of the Chicago newspapers.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Well, early on, when Hoover first took over, it was kind of a sleepy federal agency. It didn't have much to do, didn't have much jurisdiction, mostly investigated things like bank fraud and antitrust violations and corporate fraud and the like, kind of. Ich würde es als weißes Kleid-Krieg nennen.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Und die meisten der jungen Agenten, die in diese Jahre ins Büro eingestiegen sind, suchten einen Tisch-Job, einen Briefkasten zu tragen und Papiere zu drücken. Das ist es, was sie dachten, in der Depression in den frühen 30ern. Und sie suchten einen guten Job, einen guten Preis.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Und die meisten von ihnen waren Lehrstudenten oder Accounting-Schulstudenten und es war schwer, Jobs in diesen Bereichen zu bekommen. Also gravitätierten sie zur FBI und sagten, hey, das scheint ein guter Job zu sein. Und dann plötzlich beginnt der Krieg und jemand setzt eine Atomwaffe in ihre Hände und sagt, geh raus und bekommst oder tötest John Dillinger.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Viele dieser Leute hatten noch nie eine Waffe geschossen. Sie wussten nicht, wie man eine Waffe handeln kann.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Yeah, G-Man started as a generic term for government man, all sorts of federal bureaucrats. But it came to be associated specifically with the FBI in the early 30s when they started going after these criminals. And there was a famous, maybe apocryphal story about how
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
One of the outlaws named Machine Gun Kelly, not the rap artist, but a criminal back then, was captured by the FBI and supposedly shouted out, don't shoot G-Men. Now, I don't think he actually said that, but that became the story and the term G-Man then became popular.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Zuerst einmal jung. Sie mussten zwischen 25 und 35 Jahre alt sein. Er wollte alle amerikanischen Junge-Typen, die Integrität hatten und nicht gekauft werden konnten. Viele lokale Polizisten waren damals auf dem Weg. Also wollte er Männer, die zuerst und vormost nicht verhaftet werden würden.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
They came from mostly middle class backgrounds, maybe slightly upper middle class, certainly not Ivy League types. He didn't like those types. They had to be slender or athletic, even though Hoover himself didn't fit that description. Most of them were law school graduates or accounting school, business school graduates.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
It wasn't an ironclad rule because he did end up taking some agents from sort of southwestern police departments and the like. Im Allgemeinen waren sie jünger, beruflich. Morally upright, shiny shoes, crisp white shirt, business suit, fedora hat, not much facial hair, maybe a mustache, but certainly no beards.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Die Veränderung der FBI war eine Teil der Neue-Deal-Veränderung. Ich meine, Franklin Roosevelt, der Präsident, war sehr viel in Bezug auf die Föderalisierung der Staatsanwälte, um der FBI eine Jurisdiktion zu geben, die es vorher nicht hatte, über solche Dinge wie das Tötung eines föderalen Offiziers, was nicht ein föderales Verbrechen war, so spät wie 1933.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Taking stolen goods across state lines was not a federal crime at the time. Kidnapping was not a federal crime. Murder was not a federal crime. And robbing a bank, even a federally chartered bank, was not a federal crime up through 1933. As part of the New Deal expansion, the FBI acquired all those jurisdictions beginning around 1934.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Now, they didn't have the technology. The early FBI agents didn't have to have nearly resources and technology that you think of the FBI having today. You know, they didn't. Sie hatten keine SWAT-Team-Geräte, sie hatten keine Helikopter, die über die Oberfläche schwärmen konnten, sie konnten keine Telefone, sie konnten keine Kreditkartenverkaufe, Dinge wie das. Einiges davon war Gumshoewerk.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Nun, sie hatten Fingerprinting, aber einiges davon war nur Legwerk von den Feldagenten.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Yeah, he developed this huge fingerprint division in Washington and built it up from scratch. A few thousand prints to over a million in just a few years.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
They first had to learn how to fire a gun and then they had to acquire powerful weapons. The Outlaws had much more powerful weapons than the FBI originally. The Tommy Gun, which you see in all the 1930s gangster movies. They had the Browning Automatic Rifle or BAR. That was favored by Clyde Barrow. And these were very powerful weapons. They were legal at the time.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
They're no longer legal in the hands of citizens. But the FBI, you know, and in local law enforcement often were equipped only with pistols or six shooters and, you know, maybe a shotgun occasionally. But so Hoover started ordering Tommy guns and BARs and things like that for the FBI. Their cars were not as fast as the criminals early on. Dillinger drove these, you know, Essex Terraplane was his
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Getaway Vehicle and Bonnie and Clyde had a powerful Ford V8s. Law enforcement had these old Ford Model A's. So the FBI had to buy and obtain faster cars. It was a gradual process. They were behind in the beginning. They made a lot of mistakes. They kind of stumbled and bumbled around at first. Und dann mussten sie sich adaptieren.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Die Art und Weise, wie sie die meisten dieser Kriminellen gefangen haben, was through informants, often a female informant who had been associated with the criminal. I mean, it was a woman in red, Anna Sage, who turned Dillinger in. It was the father of the associate who was traveling with Bonnie and Clyde, who set them up. Babyface Nelson was informed on by a woman.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Basically, you had to find an informant who could tell you where the person was, and then they would close in on him and ambush him.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Depending on the local officer, but often the local law enforcement officer, the county sheriff or whatever, was very jealous of these tenderfoots coming in with federal badges and was often reluctant to share. Die andere Sache ist, dass manchmal die Präsenz der FBI mit der Führungskräfte von den Kriminellen interferiert hat. Es war also eine seltsame Beziehung am Anfang.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Well, you know, you see it. Even in more recent times, The Fugitive, where Tommy Lee Jones is with, I think, the US Marshals, and he comes in and takes over the investigation from the locals, and they kind of resent it. And he says, I don't care, you know, I'm running things. The FBI didn't quite have that clout. in den frühen Dreivierteljahren.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Es hat sie einige Zeit gedauert, als die erste Bundesverfügungsagentur im Land zu akzeptieren, die es für alle ihre Kritiker immer noch ist. Es war wirklich in den Dreivierteljahren, dass es das moderne FBI geboren hat.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Zerstörungen waren nicht ein federales Verbrechen. Damals wurde das Lindbergh-Babys gesnabbt. Es war ein riesiger Kost-Celeb. Charles Lindbergh war vielleicht der berühmteste Mann in Amerika außerhalb der FDR. Es gab einen Mannhund für ihn. Die FBI hatte keine Voraussetzungen. In that case, Hoover wanted to get involved, but he was kind of sidelined.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
His people were kind of on the sidelines during that whole investigation. He supplied some technical help, fingerprinting and the like, and some serial numbers on the ransom notes. But it was really the state of New Jersey that largely controlled that investigation. Now, after the Lindbergh baby turned up dead,
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
ein paar in Minneapolis, St. Paul, die für riesige Summen, 100.000, 200.000 Dollar, die heute in den Multimillionen-Millionen-Millionen-Millionen-Millionen-Millionen-Millionen-Millionen,
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
When Dillinger and Bonnie and Clyde and Pretty Boy Floyd and those were running wild, there was a sense that things were out of control.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
And that the criminals had the upper hand and a lot of innocent people died in bank robberies. You know, they'd shoot. um zu töten, und sie töteten viele Polizisten, sie töteten viele ungewöhnliche Anwesende. Und so gab es diese Art von Chaos, bis zu einem gewissen Punkt. Nun, um das zurechtzunehmen, haben viele Leute diese Ausländer ein bisschen romantisiert. Sie haben Banken besiegt.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Banken waren nicht populär, sie waren das Gegenteil. Der Banker war der Kerl in der Schuhe, der auf deine Tür knackte, mit den Verabschiedungspapieren, um deine Farm oder Zuhause zu übernehmen, weil du den Betrag nicht bezahlt hattest. At least initially, newsreels were big back then in movie theaters, the preview. Dillinger would come on the screen and people would applaud and clap.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
And then some G-Man would come on the screen and they would boo. Now that gets turned around a little bit over the next few years as the criminals became ever more ruthless and started killing more innocents. They sort of lost their Romanticism and the G-Man wurde der Mann, der genannt wurde.
American History Hit
President FDR & the New Deal
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American History Hit
President FDR & the New Deal
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American History Hit
President FDR & the New Deal
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American History Hit
President FDR & the New Deal
At PwC, we bring the power of a global network grounded in local know-how. From shifting regulations to fast-moving tech, we deliver tailored solutions that work everywhere you do. So you can stay ahead. So you can protect what you built. So you can create new value. We build for what's next. So you can get there now. PwC, so you can.
American History Hit
President FDR & the New Deal
PwC refers to the PwC network and all one or more of its member firms, each of which is a separate legal entity.
American History Hit
President FDR & the New Deal
At PwC, we bring the power of a global network grounded in local know-how. From shifting regulations to fast-moving tech, we deliver tailored solutions that work everywhere you do. So you can stay ahead. So you can protect what you built. So you can create new value. We build for what's next. So you can get there now. PwC, so you can.
American History Hit
President FDR & the New Deal
PwC refers to the PwC network and all one or more of its member firms, each of which is a separate legal entity.