Margaret Kiljoy

You know, and basically we talked about like, how do we try and make sure that people know about what's happening? And I wanted to ask you, so you're, you're a cis man and you didn't have an easy time in prison, right? As far as I, as far as I understand, no, I think no one gets to have an easy time in prison is one of the, things, especially in a supermax.

You know, and basically we talked about like, how do we try and make sure that people know about what's happening? And I wanted to ask you, so you're, you're a cis man and you didn't have an easy time in prison, right? As far as I, as far as I understand, no, I think no one gets to have an easy time in prison is one of the, things, especially in a supermax.

Yeah. You were not among the people who had it easier. And as I would follow your journey through the federal prison system, it seems like you had to defend yourself against both other prisoners and also prison staff. Is that a fair way to put it?

Yeah. You were not among the people who had it easier. And as I would follow your journey through the federal prison system, it seems like you had to defend yourself against both other prisoners and also prison staff. Is that a fair way to put it?

Yeah. You were not among the people who had it easier. And as I would follow your journey through the federal prison system, it seems like you had to defend yourself against both other prisoners and also prison staff. Is that a fair way to put it?

mildly yeah yes that was what was going on can you tell me a bit about the experience of trans people in prison because when when you look at this executive order it sort of implies like all trans women are in women's prison and all trans men actually i literally have no idea where trans men are held i would rather if i was a trans man i'd probably rather be in women's prison i just anyway i don't know what was the situation like before this executive order

mildly yeah yes that was what was going on can you tell me a bit about the experience of trans people in prison because when when you look at this executive order it sort of implies like all trans women are in women's prison and all trans men actually i literally have no idea where trans men are held i would rather if i was a trans man i'd probably rather be in women's prison i just anyway i don't know what was the situation like before this executive order

mildly yeah yes that was what was going on can you tell me a bit about the experience of trans people in prison because when when you look at this executive order it sort of implies like all trans women are in women's prison and all trans men actually i literally have no idea where trans men are held i would rather if i was a trans man i'd probably rather be in women's prison i just anyway i don't know what was the situation like before this executive order

And when you talk about the safety, I don't want to necessarily go on at great length about how trans women suffer in men's prisons, but it's probably worth talking about. Because you've described it as there's literal sexual slavery happening in the prisons. Is that a fair way to put it? Yeah, 110%, yes. Yes.

And when you talk about the safety, I don't want to necessarily go on at great length about how trans women suffer in men's prisons, but it's probably worth talking about. Because you've described it as there's literal sexual slavery happening in the prisons. Is that a fair way to put it? Yeah, 110%, yes. Yes.

And when you talk about the safety, I don't want to necessarily go on at great length about how trans women suffer in men's prisons, but it's probably worth talking about. Because you've described it as there's literal sexual slavery happening in the prisons. Is that a fair way to put it? Yeah, 110%, yes. Yes.

yeah do you want to talk about the worst things that ever happened to you do you want to talk about uh you and i we did another episode on my other podcast um live like the world is dying talking about how to survive prison and in it you talked a little bit about what was necessary to kind of stand up for trans prisoners do you want to talk about that a little bit

yeah do you want to talk about the worst things that ever happened to you do you want to talk about uh you and i we did another episode on my other podcast um live like the world is dying talking about how to survive prison and in it you talked a little bit about what was necessary to kind of stand up for trans prisoners do you want to talk about that a little bit

yeah do you want to talk about the worst things that ever happened to you do you want to talk about uh you and i we did another episode on my other podcast um live like the world is dying talking about how to survive prison and in it you talked a little bit about what was necessary to kind of stand up for trans prisoners do you want to talk about that a little bit

You have to. Like, you have to live your ethics. One of the reasons that I wanted to talk to you about it and have you on this show is because, unfortunately, I mean, prison is kind of a concentration of the worst parts of society. I do not want to say the worst people in society.

You have to. Like, you have to live your ethics. One of the reasons that I wanted to talk to you about it and have you on this show is because, unfortunately, I mean, prison is kind of a concentration of the worst parts of society. I do not want to say the worst people in society.

You have to. Like, you have to live your ethics. One of the reasons that I wanted to talk to you about it and have you on this show is because, unfortunately, I mean, prison is kind of a concentration of the worst parts of society. I do not want to say the worst people in society.

I believe it has much more to do with the incarceration and the way that people are forced to be, right, when they're incarcerated. There's a tangent. But have you heard the whole thing where there's no such thing as an alpha male wolf in the wild? I've only heard it from you and I loved it. Okay, I probably said this exact same thing last time we talked. Just in case. Yeah.

I believe it has much more to do with the incarceration and the way that people are forced to be, right, when they're incarcerated. There's a tangent. But have you heard the whole thing where there's no such thing as an alpha male wolf in the wild? I've only heard it from you and I loved it. Okay, I probably said this exact same thing last time we talked. Just in case. Yeah.

I believe it has much more to do with the incarceration and the way that people are forced to be, right, when they're incarcerated. There's a tangent. But have you heard the whole thing where there's no such thing as an alpha male wolf in the wild? I've only heard it from you and I loved it. Okay, I probably said this exact same thing last time we talked. Just in case. Yeah.