Marc Andreessen

And everything that happens now is going to happen in the full light of social media. And, you know, say what you will about social media. One of the things it's really good at is like when somebody like Elon or somebody like Trump wants to take a message direct to the people. And I say this because this has already begun. Like, you know, Elon's already doing this.

And everything that happens now is going to happen in the full light of social media. And, you know, say what you will about social media. One of the things it's really good at is like when somebody like Elon or somebody like Trump wants to take a message direct to the people. And I say this because this has already begun. Like, you know, Elon's already doing this.

The administration's already doing this. There's an ability here to take this directly to the population and shine a light on what's actually going on. across a lot of the government. And I'll just give you the most obvious one they've already talked about in public, which is just, you know, the occupancy of a federal building in Washington, D.C. now is like 25%.

The administration's already doing this. There's an ability here to take this directly to the population and shine a light on what's actually going on. across a lot of the government. And I'll just give you the most obvious one they've already talked about in public, which is just, you know, the occupancy of a federal building in Washington, D.C. now is like 25%.

Like a very large percentage of the federal workforce literally never came back to work. And, you know, ask any big company CEO in America, they will tell you people working at home are not working.

Like a very large percentage of the federal workforce literally never came back to work. And, you know, ask any big company CEO in America, they will tell you people working at home are not working.

This is the traditional institutional cynical Washington view. And the way that reads to a normal person is absolute contempt for the taxpayer. like, absolute contempt for the taxpayer of, like, we can sit here in Washington and we can ladle out $50 billion here and $100 billion there, and when we're challenged on it, the answer is, eh, it's a rounding error.

This is the traditional institutional cynical Washington view. And the way that reads to a normal person is absolute contempt for the taxpayer. like, absolute contempt for the taxpayer of, like, we can sit here in Washington and we can ladle out $50 billion here and $100 billion there, and when we're challenged on it, the answer is, eh, it's a rounding error.

But I just say, look, I just tell you what you just said comes across as total contempt for the taxpayer. Like, just absolute contempt. And so this will be part of the... Who is the taxpayer?

But I just say, look, I just tell you what you just said comes across as total contempt for the taxpayer. Like, just absolute contempt. And so this will be part of the... Who is the taxpayer?

They're not exposed to it. So this is the difference. This is a big part of the bet. And look, maybe it'll work and maybe it won't. This is a big part of the bet, which is they don't actually, the American taxpayer doesn't experience it that way because they don't actually have the insight into it. Take what you would think would be a bulletproof program like child disability in schools.

They're not exposed to it. So this is the difference. This is a big part of the bet. And look, maybe it'll work and maybe it won't. This is a big part of the bet, which is they don't actually, the American taxpayer doesn't experience it that way because they don't actually have the insight into it. Take what you would think would be a bulletproof program like child disability in schools.

Like it's far from clear to me that the median taxpayer would support that if they really knew what that was. And as you and I both know what that has become is that it's become basically medicalized mental illness. To the point where if students in schools now are basically using fake diagnoses of mental illness in order to get drugs and in order to get like extra time on tests.

Like it's far from clear to me that the median taxpayer would support that if they really knew what that was. And as you and I both know what that has become is that it's become basically medicalized mental illness. To the point where if students in schools now are basically using fake diagnoses of mental illness in order to get drugs and in order to get like extra time on tests.

And that whole program has like run completely out of control. And like everybody with kids knows that. But it's not like a discrete thing that people can like wrap their heads around and understand. And it's not a thing that gets like exposed in the bright light of day.

And that whole program has like run completely out of control. And like everybody with kids knows that. But it's not like a discrete thing that people can like wrap their heads around and understand. And it's not a thing that gets like exposed in the bright light of day.

And that's precisely the kind of thing where I think if it's aired in public, I think you might find that there's a lot less support for it than people think. So, you know, we'll see.

And that's precisely the kind of thing where I think if it's aired in public, I think you might find that there's a lot less support for it than people think. So, you know, we'll see.

Well, so, look, I just start by saying, look, when a coalition wins, then, of course, the very next step is internal fights inside the coalition. Right. I mean, I think that's sort of obvious. Right. So, look, I have no doubt that there are and they're going to continue to be debates inside the coalition.

Well, so, look, I just start by saying, look, when a coalition wins, then, of course, the very next step is internal fights inside the coalition. Right. I mean, I think that's sort of obvious. Right. So, look, I have no doubt that there are and they're going to continue to be debates inside the coalition.