Marc Andreessen
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Yeah, so, and I should say, like, I'm helping Doge on this, but I'm not speaking for Elon. Yeah, just to be clear. Not speaking for Elon, not speaking for the administration. Yeah, that's clear. So look, yeah, you know, look, so when, you know, I talked about Al Gore a lot earlier. You may remember Al Gore had this whole initiative in the 90s called Reinventing Government.
Yeah, so, and I should say, like, I'm helping Doge on this, but I'm not speaking for Elon. Yeah, just to be clear. Not speaking for Elon, not speaking for the administration. Yeah, that's clear. So look, yeah, you know, look, so when, you know, I talked about Al Gore a lot earlier. You may remember Al Gore had this whole initiative in the 90s called Reinventing Government.
Which was Doge 1.0. At the time, it was a normie Democrat thing, which is, of course, you want government efficiency. Of course, you want a balanced budget. Ideally, you want a government surplus. In fact, you'll recall that they actually got there. In the late 90s, the US government actually went into surplus. It actually worked. It used to be just assumed.
Which was Doge 1.0. At the time, it was a normie Democrat thing, which is, of course, you want government efficiency. Of course, you want a balanced budget. Ideally, you want a government surplus. In fact, you'll recall that they actually got there. In the late 90s, the US government actually went into surplus. It actually worked. It used to be just assumed.
It's like, of course, if you're a Democrat, you want the government programs to be efficient because you want them to sustain. Right? And you want, you know, whatever social support programs or whatever you want to sustain, you want social security to sustain. And so, of course, you want efficiency. And, of course, you want cost-cutting wherever you can get it.
It's like, of course, if you're a Democrat, you want the government programs to be efficient because you want them to sustain. Right? And you want, you know, whatever social support programs or whatever you want to sustain, you want social security to sustain. And so, of course, you want efficiency. And, of course, you want cost-cutting wherever you can get it.
And, of course, you want to eliminate, you know, fraud and abuse and all these things. And then, like, somehow now that's turned into, oh, my God, it's fascism, right? So it's another one of these, like, crazy inversions that's taken place.
And, of course, you want to eliminate, you know, fraud and abuse and all these things. And then, like, somehow now that's turned into, oh, my God, it's fascism, right? So it's another one of these, like, crazy inversions that's taken place.
It's possible. I mean, look, like I just said a couple things. So like one, what you said, it's been very deliberately set up. So it's not actually a department of the government, notwithstanding the name, the formal power will get exercised through the executive branch, you know, and through the White House, like everything else.
It's possible. I mean, look, like I just said a couple things. So like one, what you said, it's been very deliberately set up. So it's not actually a department of the government, notwithstanding the name, the formal power will get exercised through the executive branch, you know, and through the White House, like everything else.
But I will say, you know, there's a lot of support from the administration for the program. And if you look at the people being put into positions like OMB and OPM and so forth, like they're very aligned with it. So yeah. So at the very least, it's starting out with a lot of coordination and shared ideas. And then I guess I'd say, look, a couple things.
But I will say, you know, there's a lot of support from the administration for the program. And if you look at the people being put into positions like OMB and OPM and so forth, like they're very aligned with it. So yeah. So at the very least, it's starting out with a lot of coordination and shared ideas. And then I guess I'd say, look, a couple things.
So one is, just so we know what Doge is, there's actually three kind of threads that they're pulling on. There's the money side, but there's also the headcount staffing side, which is related but not exactly the same to the money side. And then there's the regulation side. And they have plans on each of those three threads on the money and on the staffing and on the regulation.
So one is, just so we know what Doge is, there's actually three kind of threads that they're pulling on. There's the money side, but there's also the headcount staffing side, which is related but not exactly the same to the money side. And then there's the regulation side. And they have plans on each of those three threads on the money and on the staffing and on the regulation.
They have plans on how to do it that are, I would just say, light years beyond anything I've ever heard of before.
They have plans on how to do it that are, I would just say, light years beyond anything I've ever heard of before.
I mean, look, you just have the smartest entrepreneur of our entire generation who's like the conceptual genius of our time across multiple domains. And, uh, They have plans where I think when people see them, I think people are going to be like, oh, I didn't realize that that's the way that you could go about this. And so they have original thinking on all three of those.
I mean, look, you just have the smartest entrepreneur of our entire generation who's like the conceptual genius of our time across multiple domains. And, uh, They have plans where I think when people see them, I think people are going to be like, oh, I didn't realize that that's the way that you could go about this. And so they have original thinking on all three of those.
And over the weeks to come, that'll become more public. But I think there's more underlying thought process here than I think people give them credit for. And then I'll just add one more thing to your point in comparing to prior eras. The prior attempts to do this all happened under the old top-down media machine, right?
And over the weeks to come, that'll become more public. But I think there's more underlying thought process here than I think people give them credit for. And then I'll just add one more thing to your point in comparing to prior eras. The prior attempts to do this all happened under the old top-down media machine, right?