Kenneth McKendrick

doing these sciencey things.

There's been difficult times, but yeah, it's great.

Like, I mean, the thing is like, regardless of how you look at the world, when you come to the kitchen table, there's food, right?

And there's stories and there's people that are arguing and talking and sharing and laughing.

And so when you focus on what's at hand, then a lot of these larger worlds that we occupy very often, I know they take a chill pill, right?

They just sort

to calm down.

It doesn't have to be this big, you know, we believe that you're going to hell and stuff.

It's not relevant to spending an afternoon by the pool or sitting in a canoe and going paddling.

Yeah, I mean, in a certain sense, as an academic, I don't really have any advice.

We often push others away because we're fear of being rejected ourselves.

Like, there's a book called Others in Mind by Philip Roche.

It's a beautiful book.

It's a wonderful book.

But it talks a lot about that.

We push other people away when we're afraid that they're going to push us away.

So we do it first.

And

That seems like this is what's happening in politics today, is that people are pushing other people away because they're afraid of being rejected.

This matrix of purification is really based on, I think, a lot of anxiety, a lot of fears, a lot of fragility.