Katy Balls

But then they put in some of Robert Jenrick's backers, only two, Victoria Atkins and Ed Arger. All you need to really know about them is they are slightly more from the one nation wing of the party. So when Robert Jenrick was trying to say, my campaign is not just the old Tory right, he would say, look at Victoria Atkins and Ed Arger.

But then they put in some of Robert Jenrick's backers, only two, Victoria Atkins and Ed Arger. All you need to really know about them is they are slightly more from the one nation wing of the party. So when Robert Jenrick was trying to say, my campaign is not just the old Tory right, he would say, look at Victoria Atkins and Ed Arger.

So while we're now saying Team Jenrick have places around the shadow cabinet table, lots of figures on the right saying, well, they were just the people to make us look more like we were. So one of the complaints is, you know, where are some of those figures there? But generally speaking...

So while we're now saying Team Jenrick have places around the shadow cabinet table, lots of figures on the right saying, well, they were just the people to make us look more like we were. So one of the complaints is, you know, where are some of those figures there? But generally speaking...

I think they've balanced it to a point that you can say every faction, every group is represented and there's some younger talent and there's also those with more experience.

I think they've balanced it to a point that you can say every faction, every group is represented and there's some younger talent and there's also those with more experience.

I mean, I think she ultimately needs to pick the right fights. And in the past, Kemi Badenoch has picked,

I mean, I think she ultimately needs to pick the right fights. And in the past, Kemi Badenoch has picked,

various fights she will often say that you know she's in a position where she has to respond to things it's the right thing to do but picking a fight like for example maternity leave maternity leave or indeed confessing to having hacked Harriet Harman's website those are not necessarily fights you needed to pick yeah and I think I mean I think on maternity pay that was one where almost you knew she hadn't meant to pick it because she very quickly said that wasn't what she meant and she is the type of politician that

various fights she will often say that you know she's in a position where she has to respond to things it's the right thing to do but picking a fight like for example maternity leave maternity leave or indeed confessing to having hacked Harriet Harman's website those are not necessarily fights you needed to pick yeah and I think I mean I think on maternity pay that was one where almost you knew she hadn't meant to pick it because she very quickly said that wasn't what she meant and she is the type of politician that

If she did believe it, her team might say, oh, you have to speak it down. She'd say, no, I believe it. So I think that was perhaps a misspeak. But generally speaking, she has picked lots of fights for parts of the left, but she's also picked fights with the European Research Group.

If she did believe it, her team might say, oh, you have to speak it down. She'd say, no, I believe it. So I think that was perhaps a misspeak. But generally speaking, she has picked lots of fights for parts of the left, but she's also picked fights with the European Research Group.

She's really put the noses out of joint of a lot of old Tory Brexiteers when she was saying, I'm not an arsonist, I'm a conservative, because they were pushing for some EU regulation rules more quickly than she wanted to do. So I think she needs to really try and go for fights against Nigel Farage and Keir Starmer.

She's really put the noses out of joint of a lot of old Tory Brexiteers when she was saying, I'm not an arsonist, I'm a conservative, because they were pushing for some EU regulation rules more quickly than she wanted to do. So I think she needs to really try and go for fights against Nigel Farage and Keir Starmer.

It's hard to know. I think that you had in Robert Jenrick and Kemi Baden two quite different strategies because Robert Jenrick was almost just matching the reform migration policy, saying we want to leave the ECHR and the Convention of Human Rights and also being much tougher on legal migration. Kemi Badenoch has not gone that far.

It's hard to know. I think that you had in Robert Jenrick and Kemi Baden two quite different strategies because Robert Jenrick was almost just matching the reform migration policy, saying we want to leave the ECHR and the Convention of Human Rights and also being much tougher on legal migration. Kemi Badenoch has not gone that far.

But I think her argument is authenticity is how you match Nigel Farage and she's got that in spades. So that will work. The Reform Party are saying that since she's taken over the party, they're getting a lot of new members and they think that actually Tory members or Tory voters are moving to them because they don't like Kemi Badenoch. It's

But I think her argument is authenticity is how you match Nigel Farage and she's got that in spades. So that will work. The Reform Party are saying that since she's taken over the party, they're getting a lot of new members and they think that actually Tory members or Tory voters are moving to them because they don't like Kemi Badenoch. It's

Really, not to be unhelpful on this podcast, way too early to tell. Yeah, right. But I think some of the things she says, such as, you know, women's only spaces. Nigel Farage loves to speak at reform rallies saying, what is a woman railing against Keir Starmer? That's something that Kemi Badenoch will be doing too.

Really, not to be unhelpful on this podcast, way too early to tell. Yeah, right. But I think some of the things she says, such as, you know, women's only spaces. Nigel Farage loves to speak at reform rallies saying, what is a woman railing against Keir Starmer? That's something that Kemi Badenoch will be doing too.