Joseph Cox

It's like the ends justify the means in some way. I think that is how people who worked in the operation would phrase it. And as for the ethical responsibility, from everybody I've spoken to, they did take the ethical consideration seriously. Like, we're running this communications platform, and that's why if a murder does flow across...

the chats, we need to respond to it aggressively and quickly. Now, that didn't always work out, unfortunately. But that was the approach they were coming from. But at the end of the day, Those messages were still on FBI chat app.

the chats, we need to respond to it aggressively and quickly. Now, that didn't always work out, unfortunately. But that was the approach they were coming from. But at the end of the day, Those messages were still on FBI chat app.

Sure. So the FBI and its foreign partners, they decide on a date, June 7th, 2021. The reason for that is that the country that was sort of part of the technical infrastructure, Lithuania, their court order was running out. But basically Anon was just getting too unwieldy. It was starting to get out of the FBI's control immediately. Sellers were pushing into countries as they wished.

Sure. So the FBI and its foreign partners, they decide on a date, June 7th, 2021. The reason for that is that the country that was sort of part of the technical infrastructure, Lithuania, their court order was running out. But basically Anon was just getting too unwieldy. It was starting to get out of the FBI's control immediately. Sellers were pushing into countries as they wished.

Every time the FBI asked for more resources to monitor the messages, which was eventually like 130 FBI agents in total, then more messages came and they have to ask for more resources. There had to be an end point. And that was basically the date that was picked before it went over the edge.

Every time the FBI asked for more resources to monitor the messages, which was eventually like 130 FBI agents in total, then more messages came and they have to ask for more resources. There had to be an end point. And that was basically the date that was picked before it went over the edge.

I spoke to multiple law enforcement officials who were part of that day, and the pressure and the stress they felt was incredible. The way it was set up was that it was almost a global line of dominoes, starting in Australia, and they would do their arrests first. It would then move over to Europe, and then they would do their arrests. And then eventually, when people woke up,

I spoke to multiple law enforcement officials who were part of that day, and the pressure and the stress they felt was incredible. The way it was set up was that it was almost a global line of dominoes, starting in Australia, and they would do their arrests first. It would then move over to Europe, and then they would do their arrests. And then eventually, when people woke up,

on the West Coast in San Diego, the FBI would come forward and they would take credit for running Anom. It was the single largest law enforcement action in any one day. Something like 10,000 police officers were involved in that one day in this world-spanning relay race domino track of activity. Good morning. Good morning.

on the West Coast in San Diego, the FBI would come forward and they would take credit for running Anom. It was the single largest law enforcement action in any one day. Something like 10,000 police officers were involved in that one day in this world-spanning relay race domino track of activity. Good morning. Good morning.

Yeah, if you're an ordinary person and you're trying to figure out whether an app is legitimate or not, it can be really, really hard to tell. Yes, you'd look at the owners, all of that sort of thing, and maybe some researchers dig through the code or whatever it is.

Yeah, if you're an ordinary person and you're trying to figure out whether an app is legitimate or not, it can be really, really hard to tell. Yes, you'd look at the owners, all of that sort of thing, and maybe some researchers dig through the code or whatever it is.

But even beyond that, even beyond looking for specific answers, it's just that we know the FBI is prepared to do it now, which changes the conversation.

But even beyond that, even beyond looking for specific answers, it's just that we know the FBI is prepared to do it now, which changes the conversation.

I basically believe the FBI is absolutely exploring more of this. To get some of the information in the book, I snuck into a law enforcement-only conference in Vancouver, where two of the agents were talking. And towards the end of that talk, one of them said they look forward to what the next version is. of Operation Trojan Shield, which the Anom operation looks like.

I basically believe the FBI is absolutely exploring more of this. To get some of the information in the book, I snuck into a law enforcement-only conference in Vancouver, where two of the agents were talking. And towards the end of that talk, one of them said they look forward to what the next version is. of Operation Trojan Shield, which the Anom operation looks like.

That's not an agency saying, okay, job well done, let's all go home. That's an agency looking for an even bigger thing to do next. And as well as Anom, there was the Sky hack, there was the EncroChat hack as well. Absolutely, law enforcement are continuing to push down this route. I mean, some of the police officers I even spoke to told me that.

That's not an agency saying, okay, job well done, let's all go home. That's an agency looking for an even bigger thing to do next. And as well as Anom, there was the Sky hack, there was the EncroChat hack as well. Absolutely, law enforcement are continuing to push down this route. I mean, some of the police officers I even spoke to told me that.

The Dutch authorities told me, we are doing this right now.