Joseph Cox

for something like 12 000 people in 150 different countries it's like i almost can't picture the task in front of them and that's why they had to turn to these pretty sophisticated systems for figuring out not just what people are saying but who the hell these people even are and they would do that and then even put you know the stereotypical graphs on the wall in the fbi with uh

the layouts of different criminal organizations. And in some cases, the FBI doesn't even know who these people are at first. They're just like, well, we have a new crime syndicate on the platform. Let's start mapping out how they're related to one another.

the layouts of different criminal organizations. And in some cases, the FBI doesn't even know who these people are at first. They're just like, well, we have a new crime syndicate on the platform. Let's start mapping out how they're related to one another.

Yeah, so as well as the drug trafficking, the main thing that flowed across Anom were what the FBI calls threat to life. And this is where a criminal organization or just an individual criminal will want to harm, torture, or in many cases, kill somebody else. And this happened across Anom constantly to the point where one of the FBI agents who was reading the Anom messages at first

Yeah, so as well as the drug trafficking, the main thing that flowed across Anom were what the FBI calls threat to life. And this is where a criminal organization or just an individual criminal will want to harm, torture, or in many cases, kill somebody else. And this happened across Anom constantly to the point where one of the FBI agents who was reading the Anom messages at first

His task was just to go through every single image that was sent across the platform. And often these were weapons or locations or targets. And the way it was described to me is that it's trying to figure out a puzzle basically as quickly as possible. You have to take all these disparate pieces of information and maybe you only have a photo of... a weapon.

His task was just to go through every single image that was sent across the platform. And often these were weapons or locations or targets. And the way it was described to me is that it's trying to figure out a puzzle basically as quickly as possible. You have to take all these disparate pieces of information and maybe you only have a photo of... a weapon.

So that indicates there's probably going to be violence here. Or maybe you only have a photo of the location and it's like, well, something's going to happen there. And the FBI would have to very, very quickly, as best as they could, figure out this puzzle, give information to foreign authorities who could then act on it, and then maybe save people or maybe not.

So that indicates there's probably going to be violence here. Or maybe you only have a photo of the location and it's like, well, something's going to happen there. And the FBI would have to very, very quickly, as best as they could, figure out this puzzle, give information to foreign authorities who could then act on it, and then maybe save people or maybe not.

I don't think it was always successful, but they did save lives in the process as well.

I don't think it was always successful, but they did save lives in the process as well.

Yeah, there's a lot of posturing in there through the Anon messages I've read where there are people doing exactly that. Like, oh, I'm going to effing kill him or whatever. And then you'll come across messages where they are talking specifically about getting a getaway car to drive away from the restaurant after they've killed somebody. Then they need to rent an Airbnb to hide the assassin.

Yeah, there's a lot of posturing in there through the Anon messages I've read where there are people doing exactly that. Like, oh, I'm going to effing kill him or whatever. And then you'll come across messages where they are talking specifically about getting a getaway car to drive away from the restaurant after they've killed somebody. Then they need to rent an Airbnb to hide the assassin.

When it starts to get specific and granular, at least to me, that's when it's like, oh, okay, we need to actually take this seriously. And that's what the Swedish authorities did, the Dutch as well, and especially the FBI.

When it starts to get specific and granular, at least to me, that's when it's like, oh, okay, we need to actually take this seriously. And that's what the Swedish authorities did, the Dutch as well, and especially the FBI.

Yeah, it puts the FBI in a complicated ethical spot, and it puts the foreign agencies in the same spot as well. What started to happen was that the FBI or its partners would intercept communications about a threat to life. The authorities would then act on it. They would somehow stop the killing, and that could be in various ways.

Yeah, it puts the FBI in a complicated ethical spot, and it puts the foreign agencies in the same spot as well. What started to happen was that the FBI or its partners would intercept communications about a threat to life. The authorities would then act on it. They would somehow stop the killing, and that could be in various ways.

But then what would happen would be that the criminals would continue talking, and they would go, huh. how did the authorities know we were going to kill this guy? And they wouldn't assume it was a nom. They would assume there was a mole or a rat in their organization. And then they would try to kill that person. So then the FBI has another threat to life.

But then what would happen would be that the criminals would continue talking, and they would go, huh. how did the authorities know we were going to kill this guy? And they wouldn't assume it was a nom. They would assume there was a mole or a rat in their organization. And then they would try to kill that person. So then the FBI has another threat to life.

And it almost became like this endless cycle or spiral where it just started to become exceptionally difficult for the FBI to maintain tempo, is the way they described it.