John Oller
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American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
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American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
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American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Dort sollte er hinter den Bars sein, um einen Polizisten namens O'Malley zu töten. Stattdessen hat er einen schmutzigen, schmutzigen Lächeln, den Bruch gegen die hellen Lichter zu schließen. Die Publikation im Theater schreit und schreit.
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Wie unterscheidet es sich mit all den Kriegen der Mafia? Gehen Ricos aus dem FBI-Bereich, oder wer denkt davon?
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
In Ihrer Forschung, waren Sie able to sort of track Hoover's plan? He's there for so long, for almost 50 years. Is it traceable where he decides, oh, I need bigger budgets here, I need this, I need that? Or is it kind of an organic flow, organic growth?
American History Hit
Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Für sie ist dieser charismatische Kriminal ein avengerischer Held geworden, der von den Fat Cat Banken steckt, die so viel Geld von den Amerikanern in diesen Depressionen gebraucht haben. Auf dem Bild sind die Behörden, die Dillinger an die Elektrische Strecke schicken wollen, mit ihrem Lieblings-Krönchen. Dillinger wird wieder einmal seine Beziehungen entfernen und für ihn einen Rundweg machen.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Well, you bring up an important point. I mean, the FBI has gone in and out of favor in the public view throughout its entire existence, especially in the 60s, as you say. Even today, some part of American society is very worried about FBI overstepping itself. It becomes a sort of tip of the iceberg of that whole mentality. But be careful what you ask for when you start dismantling these things.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Something else crops up that's going to remind us why we have an FBI.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Exactly. It does bring up an interesting question. I mean, we talked this entire time about J. Edgar Hoover. We never talk about any other agents. Maybe Melvin Purvis. I can think of that only one name. It's a fascinating aspect of this agency that it's kind of so anonymous, isn't it?
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Ja, es ist wirklich Dillinger, der wirklich die Bühne stellt, ist es nicht? Er ist der wichtigste Fall in der Erwachsenheit der FBI, wie wir es kennen. Ich denke so.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Diesmal in der eigenen Fahrt des lokalen Sheriffs, über die städtischen Linien. But that puts him in the crosshairs of a more formidable foe. The Federal Bureau of Investigation. The FBI. J. Edgar Hoover and his G-Men on the case and hot on Dillinger's trail. Ich bin Don Wildman und das ist American History Hit. We've also described in detail the career of J. Edgar Hoover.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
So, John, having written this book, what's its main takeaway for you? What did you draw from this story yourself?
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
How fascinating. I mean, there are just thousands of those kinds of stories of those men and women who are involved in this enormous effort, but they're all sort of lost by virtue of the fact that Hoover wollte sie wirklich anonym sein, hat er nicht? Ja, ja. Außergewöhnlich. John Oller hat Journalismus bei Ohio State studiert und war ein Wall-Street-Lehrer, bevor er sich zu schreiben ging.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Seine vorherigen Bücher betreffen den Swamp Fox über den Revolutionär-Wars-Figur Francis Marion und einen All-Amerikanischen Mord über die Tötung von Christy Lynn Mullins, die sein Buch helfen zu lösen. Dieses Buch, das wir in der letzten halben Stunde diskutiert haben, heißt Gangster Hunters. How Hoover's G-Men Vanquished America's Deadliest Public Enemies. Thank you, John.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
But how the original Bureau of Investigation became the Federal Bureau of Investigation is a very specific tale, newly told in a book released last month entitled Gangster Hunters. How Hoover's G-Men Vanquished America's Deadliest Public Enemies, authored by our guest today, John Ahler. Greetings, John. Nice to have you. Nice to be here.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Dein Buch beginnt mit einem Autorsnot, der die grundlegenden Semantiken erklärt. Die FBI wurde 1924 als das Bureau of Investigation erstellt. 1933 wurde es die Division of Investigation, DOI. Ein paar Jahre später, 1935, wurde es offiziell das Federal Bureau of Investigation, die FBI, die wir heute kennen.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Und in allen drei Iterationen, über eine Periode von 48 Jahren, von Beginn bis 1972, wurde es von einem Mann, J. Edgar Hoover, geführt. Lass uns zurück in den Anfang gehen. When the Bureau of Investigation came into being, 1924, what was its function and how did it differ from what it becomes?
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
In so many ways, the development of the FBI mirrors or parallels the development of the federal government, the expansion of the federal government, but also the expansion of J. Edgar Hoover in so many ways. Tell me about the notion of the G-Man.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
I mean, the famous term G-Man, Government Man, would have been a new concept in the 1920s, really when the federal government was so much less a part of the average American lifestyle.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Was wollte Hoover in einem G-Mann? Was war sein Archetyp?
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
In the midst of your answer, you say the thing that really sticks out to me, which is, this was an agency that needed to sort of fly above what was the understanding of state and local policing. And this was necessary at a time when the federal government is becoming more and more respected, or at least larger and larger after World War I.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Es ist eine wirklich interessante Veränderung in Amerika, wie sie sich in ihrem Polizismus reflektiert hat.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
But it was to match all that interstate crime that was going on as well, which is kind of a new phenomenon. It used to be you could commit a crime in a state, drive across the state line and be pretty good because the next state police isn't going to be after you.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
That was kind of the movie cliche. The arrival of the FBI, the expansion of the FBI prevents that from being an escape for these guys. Yes.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Right. And that's interesting because that was Hoover's original job, was this sort of detailed clerk work that he was doing in D.C. He brings that same sensibility to this new federal bureau, which can do a more forensic approach to investigations that perhaps state police aren't used to doing.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
But it really is the war on crime, which is characterized by these bank robbers, the Bonnie and Clydes, the John Dillangers, that really, really motivates the more aggressive FBI that begins to grow through the 20th century. How do they make that shift from being those clerical forensic shiny shoe guys to being a more well-equipped for this kind of era of crime?
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Und sie haben das in drei oder vier Jahren getan. Es muss sich seltsam gemacht haben, dass sich plötzlich diese neue Agentur auf dem Landschaftsgebiet befindet. Wie haben sie ihre Ziele gefunden und sie durch die Kanäle gefolgt?
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
But did they flex muscle? I mean, did it automatically become that the feds are here and you have to give up your jurisdiction over this?
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
It's funny, as we're talking, my mind is automatically going to these movie scenes. Like there have been those scenes in the movies where the state guys are like, get out of here. This is a, you know, and then there's the shiny shoe FBI, all these archetypal pictures of the FBI. Yeah, that's because this story has been sold so well through the media so popularly.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
And Hoover had a lot to do with that.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
An important chapter in the book involves the Lindbergh Law and what happened with the Lindbergh kidnapping, which many Americans today, younger generations, really don't know how big a deal that really was. We're talking about 1932 and the famous flyer Charles Lindbergh's baby is taken, toddler in those days, out of his own home. And this becomes a major international story.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
Wie kommt die FBI dazu und wie entwickelt sie ihre Rolle?
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
März 1934. Die Bildschirme eines Newsreels flicken in diesem dunklen Theater auf. Ein Poster von FBI-Mostwollendem steigt auf dem Bildschirm auf, mit 5.000 Dollar für Informationen, die zu dem Angriff des mörderischen Bankraubers John Dillinger führen. 10.000 Dollar, wenn du ihn selbst einbringst. Die Fotos schalten zu Dillinger, der mit seinen Händen im Crown Point Jail in Indiana steht.
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
In Ihrem Buch, ich meine, je mehr wir darüber sprechen, wie sich dieses Unternehmen entwickelt, desto mehr ist es für mich die Entwicklung der Vereinigten Staaten in der Welt. Wenn man sich überlegt, was die Vereinigten Staaten im Militär gemacht haben, um den Weltkrieg in Bezug auf die Polizei zu kümmern, ist die FBI das gleiche, was sie domestisch ist, nicht wahr?
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Outlaws vs the FBI: J. Edgar Hoover's G-Men
So much of the economy of this country relies on a feeling of safety and peace. The FBI gave that layer to America, didn't it?