John Hansman

And the minimum when you're given visual separation and you accept the responsibility, which the helicopter did. is that you then, you're responsible for staying out of it, but there is no minimum distance at that point. It's just where you feel safe and clear.

And the minimum when you're given visual separation and you accept the responsibility, which the helicopter did. is that you then, you're responsible for staying out of it, but there is no minimum distance at that point. It's just where you feel safe and clear.

It's like driving your car around a parking lot. Don't hit the other car. Don't hit the other airplane. So, I mean, you're used to the different dynamics and speeds in whatever. And, you know, they should have been able to do it. So was there a miscalculation? Did they get distracted? Did they see the wrong target? Were they using night vision goggles or something? We don't know that.

It's like driving your car around a parking lot. Don't hit the other car. Don't hit the other airplane. So, I mean, you're used to the different dynamics and speeds in whatever. And, you know, they should have been able to do it. So was there a miscalculation? Did they get distracted? Did they see the wrong target? Were they using night vision goggles or something? We don't know that.

It's like driving your car around a parking lot. Don't hit the other car. Don't hit the other airplane. So, I mean, you're used to the different dynamics and speeds in whatever. And, you know, they should have been able to do it. So was there a miscalculation? Did they get distracted? Did they see the wrong target? Were they using night vision goggles or something? We don't know that.

This is what will be the focus of the investigation. So I think that, you know, you wouldn't do this on purpose. So there was clearly some sort of... And the thing that we try to do in accident investigation is to dig into the cause. What is it that would have caused the pilots to be head down? And we don't know what that is right now.

This is what will be the focus of the investigation. So I think that, you know, you wouldn't do this on purpose. So there was clearly some sort of... And the thing that we try to do in accident investigation is to dig into the cause. What is it that would have caused the pilots to be head down? And we don't know what that is right now.

This is what will be the focus of the investigation. So I think that, you know, you wouldn't do this on purpose. So there was clearly some sort of... And the thing that we try to do in accident investigation is to dig into the cause. What is it that would have caused the pilots to be head down? And we don't know what that is right now.

Yeah. I mean, would something go on in the helicopter? Was somebody sick and they got distracted? That's what I'm saying. There can be distraction. There could be equipment problems. This was a training mission. They could have been focused on what they were doing on the training, so we don't know. But they, up until that point, appeared to be operating normally.

Yeah. I mean, would something go on in the helicopter? Was somebody sick and they got distracted? That's what I'm saying. There can be distraction. There could be equipment problems. This was a training mission. They could have been focused on what they were doing on the training, so we don't know. But they, up until that point, appeared to be operating normally.

Yeah. I mean, would something go on in the helicopter? Was somebody sick and they got distracted? That's what I'm saying. There can be distraction. There could be equipment problems. This was a training mission. They could have been focused on what they were doing on the training, so we don't know. But they, up until that point, appeared to be operating normally.

Yeah. I mean, you know, but doesn't look very good right now.

Yeah. I mean, you know, but doesn't look very good right now.

Yeah. I mean, you know, but doesn't look very good right now.

Thanks, Megan. Thank you. Thank you.

Thanks, Megan. Thank you. Thank you.

Thanks, Megan. Thank you. Thank you.