John Hansman

The other thing that we understand is that this was a night training mission. One of the things that happens in night training missions is the pilots will be actually using night vision goggles. Normally, you would not use night vision goggles in the city. You would use it in a dark area. But who knows, were they through the goggles?

In the goggles, things kind of blow up, so they're harder to get depth perception.

In the goggles, things kind of blow up, so they're harder to get depth perception.

In the goggles, things kind of blow up, so they're harder to get depth perception.

You wouldn't be using them near the city because what happens is when you have lots of lights, they kind of glare out or they blow out on the image. So it's hard to distinguish things. So use the night vision goggles in dark areas. And when you get to where there's lots of lights, you would normally not use them. So I would be surprised if they were using them.

You wouldn't be using them near the city because what happens is when you have lots of lights, they kind of glare out or they blow out on the image. So it's hard to distinguish things. So use the night vision goggles in dark areas. And when you get to where there's lots of lights, you would normally not use them. So I would be surprised if they were using them.

You wouldn't be using them near the city because what happens is when you have lots of lights, they kind of glare out or they blow out on the image. So it's hard to distinguish things. So use the night vision goggles in dark areas. And when you get to where there's lots of lights, you would normally not use them. So I would be surprised if they were using them.

The one other thing I would say is that, go ahead, I'm sorry.

The one other thing I would say is that, go ahead, I'm sorry.

The one other thing I would say is that, go ahead, I'm sorry.

So the controller did point out a few seconds before that, did see they were close and did confirm to the helicopter, go behind the jet, don't go in front of it. So there was acknowledgement on the part of the controller. They did do a reminder to the airplane. It may have been too late by that point.

So the controller did point out a few seconds before that, did see they were close and did confirm to the helicopter, go behind the jet, don't go in front of it. So there was acknowledgement on the part of the controller. They did do a reminder to the airplane. It may have been too late by that point.

So the controller did point out a few seconds before that, did see they were close and did confirm to the helicopter, go behind the jet, don't go in front of it. So there was acknowledgement on the part of the controller. They did do a reminder to the airplane. It may have been too late by that point.

There is minimum distance that depends on the conditions. So if it had been cloudy and they were being controlled by radar, there is a minimum distance that has to be separated, which is actually very large. As a result of that, that slows traffic down into areas into Reagan, etc. So you would actually have to shut off the jet traffic to allow a helicopter to go by.

There is minimum distance that depends on the conditions. So if it had been cloudy and they were being controlled by radar, there is a minimum distance that has to be separated, which is actually very large. As a result of that, that slows traffic down into areas into Reagan, etc. So you would actually have to shut off the jet traffic to allow a helicopter to go by.

There is minimum distance that depends on the conditions. So if it had been cloudy and they were being controlled by radar, there is a minimum distance that has to be separated, which is actually very large. As a result of that, that slows traffic down into areas into Reagan, etc. So you would actually have to shut off the jet traffic to allow a helicopter to go by.

And it's not just the military helicopters. At the same time, there was a medevac helicopter that was operating in the airspace. So this is really a result of Reagan being so close to And they've worked out procedures where the helicopters stay over the water and move around so that there are sort of standard procedures.

And it's not just the military helicopters. At the same time, there was a medevac helicopter that was operating in the airspace. So this is really a result of Reagan being so close to And they've worked out procedures where the helicopters stay over the water and move around so that there are sort of standard procedures.

And it's not just the military helicopters. At the same time, there was a medevac helicopter that was operating in the airspace. So this is really a result of Reagan being so close to And they've worked out procedures where the helicopters stay over the water and move around so that there are sort of standard procedures.

And the minimum when you're given visual separation and you accept the responsibility, which the helicopter did. is that you then, you're responsible for staying out of it, but there is no minimum distance at that point. It's just where you feel safe and clear.