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Crime Junkie

MURDERED: Nathaniel Jones

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She drags the camera and herself trying to get away as the suspect, wearing gloves, storms off to his car.

Diddy On Trial

The history of Diddy: What you need to know

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This week, Biggie Smalls came home to Brooklyn, not as he always dreamed in a blaze of glory, but in a coffin. On St. James's Place, the street where he'd grown up, the neighborhood turned out to say goodbye.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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But that could have made anybody rat. Yeah. Because you see, like, this is going to be home.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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I didn't even have the trial.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Because you don't... You maybe shower every two days. You're constantly in chains, belly chains and the leg irons. And then, like, if you file complaints... And I'm sure they do it to people that they want to break, like maybe Secret Service people they think are selling secrets or whatever, like some sort of thing. And then it's also a threat.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Like, you know, like if you go on diesel therapy, you're basically on a bus like seven days a week and stopping off only every couple days. And like in the big tanks with people, you're eating bologna sandwiches.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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No phone calls, no mail. It sucks, dude.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Yeah, the hole was pretty wicked. The thing is, on the commissary slips, they sold it. Every single federal prison, they sold raw garlic. And when you went to the hole, there were certain things on the commissary they wouldn't let you buy. But you could always buy raw garlic. Really? Cloves. And for the whole entire time, every single day, I'd eat two to four cloves. Every day.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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I just wanted to do it.

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Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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It's... The thing... The light sicknesses are... You're going to kind of get poo-pooed, but, like, if something's real serious, they take... Because it's the feds. They will take you right out to the hospital. Oh, that's cool. But, um... The, uh... Um...

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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There's no regulation.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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It always is. And the air is recirculating. So you're getting dandruff.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Right. Cause even if you're federal hold over in a County jail, you don't get the federal, like if you were in a federal prison. If you're in the county, that's it.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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It's a pyramid scheme.

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Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Well... Once you get there... Yeah, true.

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Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Yes.

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Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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And also there, there was, doesn't it come together at the end though?

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Some of it was a little too deep.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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i thought you're working with power tools all day so i'm like maybe he was like chainsawing all day or something i don't want to be rude to me what the fuck the mother the motherfucker clicked i'm sitting in the car the thing's full it clicked i pull it out dude and it just was squirting and it just squirted on the car and splashed yeah you got drenched with gasoline Like, that is wicked.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Yeah, I wanted to do the envelopes to prove I was there, and then Hillary wanted me to type the letter out, but then I'm like...

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Just to have, I don't know. No, so we would see the photos like when we were little, and so they weren't all naked photos.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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They're not all nude, but she has a couple, and then on the back it says Playboy Studios. But I think I had a bet or something with someone or some reason ulterior. I can't remember what it was.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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But I got the picture, and I showed it. I said, look, Playboy Studios.

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Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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No, but you're right. That's a reasonable thought. How fucked up does this dude get? He's jacking off to his mother? Oh, my God.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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No. Gary. I'm pretty sure it was Gary. He didn't believe you. It might not have been a bet. It might have just been, look, I want, like, hey, my parents met at Ployboi. Check this out.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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I think it happened on Lake Parkway at the mansion, Hugh Hefner's mansion. My dad collected money. Mm-hmm. He worked in the credit department. My mom worked in some area where you're just kind of the traditional whatever. And then they met at the party. And then they married, I think, they married in 63, November 22nd, the day John Kennedy was shot.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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And I think they met in 61, but they both worked at Playboy. And then Pompeo Pozar, who was a big staff photographer, just hounded the shit out of my mother. until she relented to pose. But the rest of the story, which I've never told anyone, probably never happened in the history of Playboy. So she posed. They picked her for centerfold.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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everything was set typeset and everything and she fucking freaked out and she was like take it out i don't want to do it she's like no and but she still stayed working there for another year and a half but they said no one's ever done this like said no yeah and so she's like i can't do it she was sort of traditional italian uh yeah it's a big catholic especially back in 60 especially back then like people now wouldn't care because everyone people have like only fans and shit but like

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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She was old-fashioned like that. Pull the chair out, like just... What was the thinking, though?

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Well, she was super fine. Really? She was extremely fine. Yeah, no, unbelievable. Like, okay, I had a party at the Lake Estate. The Super Bowl was February 4th and my friend was there and my mom came into the kitchen. And so I'm, I don't know, 40. My mom's 65 probably. Now she's my mom. So like I, you know, but petite and perfect. You're cursed with a hot mom.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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So she leaves the kitchen and Bob's there. It's probably five years. My elder, he's like, dude, your sister is so fine. Can I get her? Can I call her? And I said, it's my mom. And he's just like a lady blacked out. You know, like, that's who she was. But she wasn't, like, what's the word? Like, she didn't act like she was. But she was.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Yeah.

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How could I know the difference?

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Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Looking back, like, the way people reacted to her and would talk to her, like, when we would travel, like, they were very...

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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So a week before he died, maybe two weeks were at the dining room table. And I'm like, dude, I think something's wrong with you. I think you're going to die. I've been having these dreams. It happened with my grandmother. He said, I'm fine. I had the cholesterol check. Everything's good. Then the day before. So what was it? October 15th, 1989. 1989. 1988.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Because the first time I took LSD was a year later on that date, unbeknownst to me. And so we got in a fight over something. The cakes went flying. It was like a birthday. Someone's cakes. Was it my mother's? Someone had a birthday coming. And... And then that, so we had the fight and I ran out of the house and I was kind of a fuck up.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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I got this new job and then at the job I started to panic and freak out. They trained me and I said, I got to go home. Something's wrong. And then he died right in my arms. Damn, that's crazy. Which is fucked up.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Uh, 20 or 20 or 19. Okay. No, maybe it was 21, 69, 89, 88, seven, 19.

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Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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So like, you know, in the world, like in nature, there's no wasted energy. And if you live to be 80, you've had six years of dreams.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Right? And so, like, once I got to Marion, from this very first day to the day I left, every single night I'd dream and we'd meet and we'd talk and we'd get it out. That's cool. Every fucking day. So, like, I made peace with it somehow. But, yeah, there was a rocky relationship. I mean, my dad suffered from PTSD. He fought in a war. And, like, I mean, I don't know if I was...

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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I don't like, cause you mentioned it when you did your thing about hitting a kid. Is that really the way? So five or six year old boy, like that's, uh, it might, it didn't happen all the time, but it happened enough to where it's like, it's significant. Right. But it doesn't have to define who I am today. For sure. Yeah. So I don't know. Does that answer your question?

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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I always finance my weed. Oh my God. That's just the hypocrisy of it, right? Like we're going to keep this shit illegal. I know.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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I said the whole thing with drawing the needle back and the blood coming in.

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Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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That's why I was creepy as fuck. And the thing is, it just felt like I was really stoned. So I'm like, I'm not. Why would I want to do this other than smoke pot? Yeah, because then I'm getting physically addicted. I'll be sucking dick to get more or whatever.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Oh, that's the thing. That's it. That's the other thing. When I went to the when I jacked off in this thing, that's the third thing. So when I was out, that was very significant. So when I was there, I said sushi surfing. And when I was out selling LSD, if they thought you were an alcoholic.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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or uh doing coke or heroin you could not get the good lsd you were done and they always trained you for safety first and it's like they knew they could see in my soul this motherfucker will not rat somehow they saw that and when i jacked off i said i'm gonna fucking try once i want to just try it i want to stick a needle in my arm and i'm going to try heroin was that because of jerry garcia having was he like into heroin then or that was until like the 90s

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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I don't know the whole history. He was in it, I mean, probably from the beginning, but when he got addicted, it was definitely in the 90s, bad, really bad. And then he went to the Forest Knowles or Serenity Knowles, and then he died. I don't know if it's because of that, but it was the reason.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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No, it wasn't because of that, because the people that do heroin and coke and are alcoholic, they're not thinking safety first, and then they bring that heat on. People, because they're in the circles of the heavier drugs where LSD was very clandestine.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Okay.

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That was the three things I promised myself.

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Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Like, cause if you went broke, you could sell grilled cheese and beer and make six or 800 bucks by 20 to 30 sheets, go to some city for two weeks with someone that you just met or they know the city and then make four or 5,000 and you're good for like the whole tour. Yeah. I mean, two or three grand in the eighties on tour. It was like, you're set. True.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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you got three or four guys in the car but like there's always was the juxtaposition is like I'm risking my fucking life for a little bit of money even though I believe in it like so that was the dichotomy of wickedness mean how fun was that just being you know a younger

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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It was beautiful because those people accepted me. It was like a family and it was just like love. The scene in the parking lot when I went to the first show was unbelievable. It just was what was missing at home. That makes sense. And it was beautiful. But no, it wasn't like I was in fear because I've sold very little drugs at a show.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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I would meet people and like make things happen, but it wasn't like I was out there. Doses, mushrooms, this, that.

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Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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And you didn't have to because you could do grilling. You could grill... grill cheese and beer and do fine and make money. And then, you know, the acid connects. And then like these people who did the LSD, like we'll just say rainbow, you know, the Suvian man, the Vesuvian man.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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So one side had that. And then the one side was surfing hippie ladies. And then a sheet is a thousand hits, which is like maybe a seven by 10. And then 10 of those is like accordion. So that's, that's one gram of LSD, which looks just like a gram of cocaine. Yeah.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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And then they would pay someone to batik those sheets with each square of 100 hits would have that Vitruvian man from... What's his name? Da Vinci. Yeah, Da Vinci. And the other side would be the surfing hippie ladies. But that piece of paper was like artwork. You could not... You cannot counterfeit that. So if you, if I saw one of those sheets on the lot, I'm like, all right, rainbow is here.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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I'm going to search them out. Like I know I can get, and then they would front me anything, but I would never, they would front me 10 grams, which is a hundred thousand hits. But I would, like, what am I going to do with it? And they would train me, like, if you ever think there's heat around the corner, like, throw that shit away. You just have to stay safe.

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Okay. And then his friend just told on him. They showed up at his front door and he just like told him this crazy story. Right. So they didn't, wasn't indicted. He would just, they didn't. He just completely. Right on his front step.

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Like, one time we did a 10 strip, and, like, they were just with me when they met me.

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Yeah. And they could tell. However they told, they could tell. But, like, I was in.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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damn you know i was what was that like when you like that was your first experience was that your first experience i will say no the first one was uh the year the year anniversary of my dad's death i was right a friend's new friends that i met and um we were in the show they were blue unicorns and there were lights like this on the ceiling and we just kept eating the lsd because we're like i'm like i don't think it's real i don't think it's real it was her second time

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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And then I don't know, I probably got to eight or nine and then all of a sudden we're like, this is real. But then we just spent the next 15 hours together. We were at the show. It was the most beautiful, lovely experience. Like you could see, you could just, you were just in the moment. It's hard to explain in words. Um, but that was a beautiful trip. But the time I took the 10 was, uh,

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Northern California, and you could sleep. I mean, pure good LSD is not... I don't think it's really harmful unless you have a very something psychologically that's really impending you. And or the precursor to the trip, like if you just got in a wicked fight with your ex-wife and she's taking the kids and you got to double the alimony, then that might be bad.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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They're got to mean Tartate. No, it's a substantial amount of glassware, and it's not just some bathtub shit to get pure LSD 25. It took some time. And so the other thing is like, and you're not just going to make, you're going to end up with millions and millions to hit with a batch, you know? So it's like, you're going to have a lot.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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But those people that I met, they never were about bling bling. They were specific to safety first and wanting to bring about radical social change. And when I was in prison, I met people from Caracas and all down South America, these big, huge Coke dealers. And this one dude, I remember his face. I can't think of his name.

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And he sort of made me start to think even more about it because he said like when the LSD came and he knew about Owsley, he knew all this stuff about like the scene, but he was like this wicked cocaine dealer, but he was so smart. And he said when that LSD came in, it's when people were rioting in the government and we wanted to overthrow things.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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And he's like that stuff brought about radical social change. So it makes sense that the government... wanted illegal but who knows why maybe you know maybe they found some true serum way to like make people yeah they didn't want russia to get it but it did they did a lot of stuff with alcoholism too yeah that was a big thing for aa i think lsd bill wanted it everywhere yeah

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And then at the Jefferson in the 50s, they did... When I was in prison, they had a show with Barbara Walter on LSD, and the whole was sentencing and everything. And so in the 50s, they did this thing where they would take alcoholics Non-AA. They take them on one bad trip. Seriously bad and show them everything they did wrong and they filmed it.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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And then on Barbara Walters inside federal prison, they had like the dude's daughters or sons and they're like 70 or 80. And they said the LSD saved our lives like our dad or mom never took another drink. They completely changed them.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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So that was a small study.

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They were probably... Back then... I think it was... They showed it was 1,000 mics. They showed that... It was from Santos. They called it Dicelin or something like that, and they would give them 1,000 mics, but they literally would take them on a horrendously negative...

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151 months, 12 years, seven months, which I jumped for joy. That was short.

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trip the whole entire time in a thing with doctors and like, well, it's weird too, because, and then it would affect them forever till they died.

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Jumping out the window, you're going to die.

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I mean, I didn't take LSD until I was... 1990, 1989, 20 was the first time. And so I had a few times at shows I would buy a sheet or two from someone I didn't know. And I just would sell it at high school. I'd say, is this real?

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When I was facing 40 and I get 151, I looked at my mom and I just went like this. Really? You turned around?

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And I did mushrooms a couple of times, but like, even though I thought I was a free thinker, there was like, you know, you're going to take it and you're going to want to fly and jump out a window, like somewhere that got started. Cause that was always in my head, but it wasn't that dangerous, but I don't know if it's for everyone. Yeah, it makes sense.

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But I think that if a if a big slice, like if you go to Gaza, right, then Terrence McKenna would go all the way to group sex. But he's like, you get both sides, Palestine, the Jews, and let's all take some LSD and sit in a room. I guarantee you they're going to fucking figure it out. And they might start fucking each other. That'd be sick.

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I mean, the peace on earth, man, you know?

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LSD?

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So I've never seen that. I believe it.

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Less than a dozen times.

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Because I'm like, it's 151. True. At least 40 when you're 23. It's your whole life. You're done. How do you look down that hallway?

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Because you have psych now. What is that?

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151.

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It's like, okay, I can file some appeals. Maybe I'll get lucky. And I did. But-

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That's awesome. Yeah.

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Is it the human condition? I think so. We're stuck? The iPhone?

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I got an iPhone in April or May. I had a flip phone.

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And the kids now that they're like, if I don't have likes this whole idea.

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When we drove through Texas or... vegas nevada like the the older deadheads like this shit was hid you couldn't do anything ponytails back like you just had to get through the state especially texas they said if we get pulled over and they find weed we are all going to prison yeah it's crazy and now look yeah and so we paved the way i should put a collection bucket out You should. You should.

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It's shootings.

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I didn't adjust well.

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If you said that name in a disrespectful way, the Aryan Brotherhood would have killed you. What do you mean? Wait, which guard are you talking about?

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Oh, that guy. The lieutenant. Okay, no.

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In Marion, when I said, I'll do you like Tommy Silverstein.

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That's ridiculous. Oh, no, the black lieutenant, though. That really was the chain of events to get me there.

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He threw me down. He called me a hippie rat, and I called him a really fucked up name. I don't want to say it.

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But the whole yard saw that.

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And I never ratted, but he knew that.

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He's like, well, because when I came to that prison, he wanted the bag. He's like, I'm going to get that bag. I know you faked that property slip.

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James Irving, yeah. So that was the third prison I was in with it. And then I'm coming out of chow to go to the yard, and he's... Give me that bag, you hippie rat. And I yanked it back just out of reaction. He body slammed me. It's like 6'4", 6'5", 250, 260, huge. Lieutenant, I mean, he's running it. And he's like, you fucking hippie rat. And I'm like, oh, fuck.

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But when you come in, they know who's ratted, who didn't rat, who might have to be in PC or not. So he knew that he was pushing my buttons. But anyway.

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That was the first one out of 12 to riot. That's really significant.

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What was the report? I have the whole riot report. Well, now I got to re-put it back up on my new website. But it's a report from the Justice Department. It shows all the prisons that rioted, what was burned down to the ground. And they said that the instigator was Talladega, Alabama. And they charged me with leading it, which was the lieutenant.

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Yeah.

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And methamphetamine and LSD. They changed all those three.

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It's the same drug.

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crazy yeah there's 22 or 23 black guys in me and then after the riot when they did the hearings everybody in the prison got in wicked trouble but no one got sent to Marion but just us 23 and Marion you just explain what Marion is because I didn't know what it was before I read supermax federal prison opened up in 63 after Alcatraz closed there was a control unit

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And then in 1983, Tommy Silverstein and Clayton Fontaine killed two prison guards in the control unit, which was the supermax of supermaxes. And then as a result of that, they made all of Marion the control unit. And they called it the Marion model. So that was the most secure, heinous 23-hour lockdown ever fucking conceived. And man...

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And then in 2006, they decommissioned it, and then the ADX opened. But in the 1990s, it was like 385 of the most sophisticated, predacious motherfuckers on planet Earth, man, and me. What the fuck, dude?

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Yeah, and you had bars. So that actually was a saving grace because if you're laying in your cell, single cells, you're looking out and you see the big tall windows where if you imagined it was like a door like in the ADX. And some days they might give us 90 minutes.

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When I went to Marion, my neighbor told me a story of Dean who went out on the yard because he said that after the riots, they both got transferred to this other prison. Then T came to... Marion. And then, and he, he just, he didn't know that what you just said that I put in the book, but he told me what happened out on the yard. And he said, Dean was almost dead.

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Like he was beat so bad, like his head caved in, like he was alive, but just like not doing really good. Even after like months of. Like he was that fucked up. But then in the unit you walk in and it was just a jungle. But like we were all together. They were breaking the machines. We were trying to break down the door to where all the records were.

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Because all the official records were still like physical. These guys, we had all the crack log guys wanted to burn them. Understandable. No, I only have a year. Damn.

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There's still some. There's 25 states where it's illegal, right?

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When they toured us out of the... Because I didn't see everything that happened. Once they locked us down, we were in that unit for 8, 9, 10, 12, 13 days before we left for Marion. But when they took us all out to go to Marion, one building was burnt to the ground and another building was halfway burnt down.

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And then when we were in there, we could hear bulldozers and shit, but you didn't really know what's happened. But I'm like, where the whole housing unit was, it was gone. Yeah. It's like, fuck. I mean, you could smell smoke, but you just didn't know how bad it was.

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Before they took our radios, we would hear on that one dude. I can't remember that guy. He would always come on in the morning. It was a national radio show. But he had started to say about all these other prisons that rioted.

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That was in the report, too. Yeah. There were some that did that. And the funny thing is, the ones that... Here's the thing, what I talked about earlier. The medium security prisons were the ones where the most violence in buildings being burnt happened because these guys that it's a it's a consensual crime. I sell you something. I know it's illegal. All right. I didn't do the crime, do the time.

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But it's like I could have raped. I could have robbed you. I could have stolen so much more money and gotten less time. Like it's not fair and equal justice. Yeah.

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Did you ever look at when you moved to a new neighborhood, the federal... Sex offender registry? I check it all the time. It's an unbelievable map. And you could just hover. You see who they are, what their crime is. Are they on probation? And there's a lot of them.

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That might be my next play. You know, free prison. What do you mean? Like, you know, like...

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because the state there's a demand where are you going to put them when they come out right yeah and maybe like there's just i don't know like the greed makes me think about it but like if you could find a place for them to live you're going to have a you know you'll be able to rent the unit out every time oh you're talking about like pedophiles specifically or yeah yeah pedophiles pedophiles yeah there's there's what are we going to do with them where are we going to put them and the thing is

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I don't know if it's an addiction. I want to think it is. But those guys should never come out, ever.

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No, okay, so they're contained then. At least they know where they are.

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We got to get rid of him.

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The stigma seems less now for X drug dealers. It does. Those guys legal. I mean, if you went to jail for weed, like is how could that even, I got those, I got those guys houses pretty easily.

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People pay their rent. Who cares?

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Like you just build like a, you know, a 600 unit spot. Like, and you just, they're all there. Where are they going to go?

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And then when you do the real estate transaction, you got to say, you know, about the sex offender registry. Like you have to check that box.

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because it's like no one if someone moved into your neighborhood and they were that it's going to devalue everything yep it's that those guys have a hard time they never seem to be able to break free no it's not like you sold lsd you went to prison you never sold it again exactly even if you did well i did flood marion with it did you really this time what how'd you do that

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I set it up. I don't want to say his name. Oh, I remember this because you were pissed when you got it. Was that correct? I don't think I put it in the book, but maybe I put it in the book. I don't think it's 2015 I got out. No, that would have been after the statute of limitations. So I set it up. I set it up.

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I, cause you, I had this fucked up post on Instagram. My phone's off. It's like, you're talking right to me. You didn't even see me. And I'm like, man, I gotta, and I grabbed my phone during, and I'm like, okay, no, they're going to kick me out. You can't turn the phone on. Cause I wanted to erase it. It was just some fucking negative bullshit.

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I said to my friend, I said, listen, I don't know if I'm going to do this, but if you get a letter that's like this from this place, this is where the LSD will be. So I drove, I mean, I was on federal, all this shit's passed. It's five years statute of limitations. The only way that they can extend it is if they ask a court and then they have to notify you.

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So, right. And so I got it. I got the liquid. I put it on the paper. I wrote this letter with gloves on with my right, left hand, you know, the envelope. And I drove, actually drove past Marianne. way down south through Illinois and then into some, that state that's right to the east, either Tennessee or Kentucky, and then just went to a mailbox with a stamp and just put it in.

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So then it had that thing, right? And then he acknowledged it in a very, with a future letter. He didn't say anything. But then I never wrote him back again.

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I had to do it as one last act of defiance. Like just, I had to do it. And the thing is like, they could have come to me and said, he said, he got caught with it. You sent it. There was no fucking trace. I didn't have a cell phone. It's not like they knew I drove that. I didn't get pulled over. There was no, uh, Like, there's no way.

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Because if you get it from hemp, you can... It's like...

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The thing is, like, I did a line of coke one time in prison. And, like, smoking weed, it was hard to get used to. When James first got me stoned, I was crying in my bunk. Because it's just the horror of what dude...

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Twice there was acid, and I didn't take it. But one time, this guy gave me this line of coke, ether-based, just wicked, just so high. But then coming down off that, dude, was like, not that you wanted more, but you're like, I'm in fucking prison. Dude. That's a hard fucking reality. What was it like? Taking acid. Yeah. Herb got four or five hits. Each was 200 mics. And he asked me...

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For like a week, not to push me, but he said, cause he's like, we're all going to take this, but there's one for you. And then he kept coming to the child and saying, are you sure? Cause he's like, I'll probably never get this again. And then I remember when they took it, they had a great time, but I just thought if I took that in jail, like. Eight or ten hours of tripping in prison?

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I don't know, man.

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I couldn't.

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Carbolic.

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Did you like the way we made pipes?

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And the thing is, if you blow the smoke out with another tube of bounce, you see smoke, but you cannot smell it. That was the old college trick, too. You got to suck the whole hit down, though, so there's no little smoke left.

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Because pot smells so strong to people that don't smoke it.

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Sparky took me out, and we just kept hitting this joint, kept hitting this joint during the move right when I arrived. And when I got back, I swear to God, it was like I took 10 hits of acid.

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I was so fucking stoned. Like, dude, and I'm like 151 months. I hadn't won an appeal. It was just this wickedness.

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Every day took me twice a day. And after about a week, it was like, yeah, let's go get it.

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You got to do your time, right? And then they taught me how to beat the piss test. You drink.

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You drink a gallon of water and then the lieutenants give you two hours because they can't just grab you and say pee. They say you got two hours to report to the lieutenant's office. You got to drink a full gallon in 15 minutes. They taught me this. And then they said by the sixth or seventh piss, they said, you want to wait to seven if you can wait till eight. It's just pure water.

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This was the 90s. And the thing is, whenever they would take it, you'd go back to the lieutenant's office. They would make it look like they're putting it in a mailer. But then they would always ask you, if you admit to us you did drugs, we'll only give you 30 days. I mean, I never would. But nothing ever came back dirty. Today, the test might be different.

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The whole...

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I don't think, I think that eighth piss, because you're talking now maybe at 45, 50 minute mark, if you slam that, it looks like water. It smells like water. Yeah. It's probably barely 98 degrees warm.

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But today I think they probably could detect it.

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I think all drugs should be legal and the world would be way different. That's really one of the driving forces behind the book is to be part of that wave. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, dude, it's like... It hasn't worked. I mean, look at the prisons. Well, what happened with Portugal?

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Did they take it?

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What do you think happened to it?

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Yeah.

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What the fuck? So that motherfucker. He probably felt fucking bad. He held? No. That lieutenant sent it to me after I got home from Marion, which means he held it the whole time I was in Marion.

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It was the fuck you.

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No way. Why did he do that? Just to be a dickhead? I think so. I burned it in a 55-gallon drum that day. I even had a ceremony to let it all go.

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I did. And maybe it was, I never thought that. I mean, I wasn't in a bad, it just struck me like this motherfucker sent it back now.

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He was following, and he had to be. Yeah, that's kind of weird. Yeah, but it represented so much. I had to, like the Phoenix, just let this go, and I had a ceremony.

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No one was there, and I just, like, this is going.

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I don't regret it, but it would have been kind of cool to say, hey, here's the green duffel bag, but.

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Well, I don't know that. It shocked me, though. Yeah, I'd be freaked out, dude. It was shocking.

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I'm staying with my brother, which the probation officer would have known. But, like, all my other stuff I had. Yeah. Like, cause the, when I left Mary and there's that stuff that got sent, like this is maybe weeks or months later. It just was weird.

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Dude, I was so focused. I got to come back. No, I was like, uh, By accident. The house, there was a bust. They showed coke. I was going to my job. There's an arcane law that was like you can make an unsolicited bid with the marshal service if they seize assets. And I knew all this from jail. And so then I actually dated the marshal. It helps a little. She probably would deny it.

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It was much smaller. The Cato Institute did a big study. I wrote a couple op-eds for that. I don't remember all the statistics, but they would track it all the way to like...

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But so I bought that house. Yeah, I bought that house probably 18 months later for like twenty five thousand. And then I just like felt like changing the design. My mom would always take me to these Frank Lloyd Wright homes. And so I just started doing it. And then some people helped me in the neighborhood.

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They saw sympathetic to the architecture, but I needed help like with the design and just people and contractors. And then that just started the evolution. And I was hyper focused monster, just like going after it, like not worried about a Rolex, but just loving what I do. And I was good at it.

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The best that I've ever been at anything probably in the world of commerce and making money that's legit paying taxes. I mean, 2005, I paid $175,000 in federal tax. I mean, where the fuck did that money go, man? A fucking tank tread? Like, goddamn. But yeah, so that just focused me and I just would buy buildings, restore them or buy apartment buildings, restore them, rent them and sell them.

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when kids first tried drugs like it just had a positive impact on all the metrics of drug use amount of drug use when they stop and then when you go in to do it they say if you get addicted or you want help here it is but there's a lot of moms whose young daughters and sons have od'd and died that if it was legal if they were at one of those places they wouldn't have died and

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I did addresses and everything. And then my lake house, this massive lake estate, S109W35190, Jack's Bay Road, Eagle, Wisconsin, 53149. Dude. Nice. Fucking unbelievable.

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Yeah.

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I was told.

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I was told not to.

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I mean, I don't blame them. I was I wanted to get the three million and then get three million in T-bills and then still what I did still do what I do. But that was my goal. And I had nine years at a million ten. I bought that lake estate in two other houses, 6429 North Santa Monica and and a 1525 North Marshall. And then just, it went, man.

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And I paid all the mortgages till I had like 11,000 left. And then a bankruptcy lawyer came to me and said, if you file bankruptcy, you could stay in that lake house for another 18 months. And I said, dude, I'm giving the keys back. Like it's done. I'm not just going to stay here. And I flew to Hawaii and I started to care, take a farm. But that took me 10 years mentally.

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Like now, like you being on here, like,

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that focus and drive like it's there i have it but i i still do it today and i have a little not where i was but i'm not driven like i was and i want to be right i want to be you're still doing the properties yes that's cool rehabbing and fixing up yeah yeah that was i guess i'm an artist and buildings are my medium i'm not a contractor because i can't do it for someone else because then it's their vision and i can't just do what i do with the people you know

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So that's what I know. Like, I can't, you know, like, I'm not a painter.

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That's kind of like what the hand I was dealt.

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And I love working out.

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Yeah.

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Well, you've inspired me. I'm going to do an Audible on the book. I'm going to do a second edition. I'm pretty sure I'm going to keep the name. And then the whole social media thing is, like, all new to me. But, like, you can get paid for views.

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Like, you can go on a show and drink liquid death and show it. And, like, you're going to get 10 fucking grand. Like, I see it. I understand marketing. Like, holy fuck, man.

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Fuck yeah, man. Why not? Like, it's cool. The fame part is weird to me. But I guess, like, that's part of it, you know?

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I don't think I could compete.

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I'd love to sell the book, The Movie Writes. I had started a cream plate. That would be really cool.

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Those are other people.

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From the soft white underbelly. It's like within a couple of months, I'm like, Mark, what the fuck? People are selling my book for 250. He's like, yeah, that's part of the deal.

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I could print more and, or do a second edition. Cause what I want to do is a chapter, every other, every other, a letter, every other chapter, and then add Marion. I took a bunch of stuff out about Marion.

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But they do a feature film on a guy who invented the delay on a windshield wiper, $80 million. They'll do it on anything. But the story, not my story. I mean, my story is there, but just the story of the history of Marion and the drug laws and the riots. Yeah. Like, what the fuck, man?

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It's crazy. After this many years, like, you have me on this podcast. It makes it relevant again. Like, un-fucking-believable. Like, how the fuck? Like, you saw that show, and you're like, I got to get this guy. Like, what? And then I took 21 days to respond. I'm like, oh, my God, this motherfucker's going to think.

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Well, I thought about it on the plane coming here. There was a leader of the Aryan Brotherhood who's now in the ADX, Mike McElhinney. He never overtly, I thought danger of him, but I knew he was a wicked dude. Like you had like the big wolf, but like he gave me a respect.

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And it had to be because who the fuck would he also probably thought I was fucking idiot because the guards could have killed me. But like, who would have ever said that? Yeah, I'm going to do you like Tommy Silverstein. Like, what the fuck, man?

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I mean, I'm not bragging. I'm like at all. Like, how could that have even come out of my mouth? It shows you the.

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But if we can at least discover them, if both metrics were the same, legal and illegal, there's still the metric of the criminal elements out of it. We get the money that we can bring back in.

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You're going to start to question it. You're going to think, what am I doing?

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What I do with my head is my business. Can a government really tell me?

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Like, cause at the show, you can't turn your phone on. Right, right, right, right. So then I go out. And I wouldn't even have turned my phone on had I not had that thought, which is that you inspired me from the thing. And then you're like, dude, I saw you come back to the green room. I couldn't miss you, bro.

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You gave me that shout out about the jack rag on another podcast.

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that's i'm glad it's got to cross a weird threshold though for other prisoners to be like yo here's how you jerk off because i know in jail it's like nicky at the third place yeah nicky told me he started to tell me and i thought he was fucking with me yeah and i'm like but he's not gay sparky already got me stoned with all this weed and then i'm like all right i'm gonna try it but i did and it was wicked it was what was the technique again you rolled the socks inside out

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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So it's smooth, and then you're not actually going up and down on the shaft, and it's hard when you get a really big hard iron, but you grab the shaft, and then that heat will create it, and then right at climax, boom, right on top and underneath. Put some pressure on it. It has an effect, man. That's crazy. I mean, like, don't guys know that? Oh, man, I don't know.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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So you turn it inside out, and then you fold it over so it's a little tight, right? And you got to get a big sock. But no, it works. And then it's all contained. No spill, no fuss, no muss. You don't have to buy or cab wear at home in the morning. True.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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Throw that fucker out. Throw it out. After like six or eight uses. What? Oh, so you still wash it between. Or I'll rinse it.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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So it was a... You're 23 years old. Sober experience. Sobering experience. I went to that cell, and I just started to think, what do I want to do? What am I going to do when I get out? Surfing, sushi, and then I'm like... Somehow I got aroused right on, you know, and the marshals were out of the office there. There's bars and I just fucking hit it. I made myself come hard, dude.

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And then I'm like, get used to it, motherfucker, because that's all you got. And I think that's actually pretty good. Like.

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to realization and just accepting yeah this is what it is dude i mean and who knows maybe if i spent 151 months in there i mean i might have been getting my dick sucked i don't fucking know i don't think so but after a certain amount of time like say if you're there for 30 fucking years man i hear you i hear you gotta be touched like what the fuck something's gotta happen yeah or a guard you get lucky with the female prison guard that'd be huge that'd be very lucky

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So I don't know. I've never had to deal with that. But you never had it.

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That was fucking rad as fuck, dude.

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Get raped, get my asshole filled with cum. Can I say that?

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No, man.

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Yes, that trial was in Covington, Kentucky, 6th District. The first prison was really low and normal, but as it progressed. And the thing is, the face of the medium security prisons at that time changed. So normal medium security in the 80s, you might have bank robbers, a couple drug dealers. The average sentence was maybe 8, 6, 8, 10 years.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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But now every other fucking guy had 30, 35 years, and they're young. So it was like, that was like a penitentiary and a medium. Cause like, you know, if a dude's got 35 or 40 years and he's 25 and he's disrespected, like what the fuck does he have to lose?

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It's not like you have eight or 10 and you got an out date and you're close. Right. So like the tensions were different.

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Acceptance. It's a big thing. It was luck. I don't know how I look back. What the fuck?

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When they arrested me, I thought to myself, as they're driving me in the car, like I had the thought, I'm like, I know a motherfucker who's got a kilo of Coke. I'm thinking in my head, and I'm like, no. And they brought me to the courthouse in this room with Christopher Bick and a couple other agents.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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And they said, you're going to spend all of your fucking 20s and probably most of your 30s in prison. This is the best part of your life. And they said, we won't even process you. Just tell us you'll cooperate and help us. And it can stop right now. And I said, take me to myself. Fuck you. Which was the hardest fucking thing. Because I knew I'm not going to jail then. Yeah.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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They threw the 18 count indictment on my lap when they arrested me, which I thought, holy fuck, that means they convened a grand jury. They've been fucking following me, trying to catch me with shit, which they were. So, yeah, man, that was a wicked situation. Then I got out on bail for like four months. And then out on bail, I got in trouble. So they arrested me.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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I don't know if I put this in the book. And then I had to go back to Kentucky through the federal prison system. And then once I got to Kentucky, there was a mix-up with getting the car.

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You did talk about this, yeah. But I went through six or seven prisons because the way the marshal service transfers you through. And then I went to this one in Oklahoma. Now they built a different one. But you actually went into a prison with like six tiers. And so I'm only have been...

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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arrested i informally charged but i had i have not been convicted or sentenced so i saw in that point i saw what prison was like really what prison was you got to get your shuffle so i remember that in the book you were you had to get yourself down in kentucky to get like a rain or whatever yeah because they arrested me in milwaukee but the indictment was out of kentucky so they rained me here they gave me pre-trial probation they said you got to show up in three weeks and you couldn't get to kentucky

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 538 - LSD Supermax (feat. Joel Blaeser)

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Right. Two days before I called the marshals, they said, you got to get there. You got to get there. We're going to come arrest you. And then there was an issue with my getting a rental car. And then my brother wasn't going to let me use his car. And I mean, I fucked up.

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

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But they don't go straight. I just get in the system and you just go around. And then it took me like 31 days, a couple of county jails. But it was the one in Oklahoma, Oklahoma City. I can't remember the name of the federal prison, but like you would go to the chow hall and you'd mix with the prisoners, like the wick, you know?

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Yeah, I gave them a little note.

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And it's just like, I remember Jean Gotti was there, I believe at the time, but it was like, Holy fuck, man. Then I get to Kentucky. They gave me, he gives me the bail. He's like, you can't fuck up. We're going to piss you all that. He's like, but I'll see you. I don't know. The trial was in four or five months after that. Um, but that, that, that, No, I went back to Milwaukee. Okay.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Trump Nukes Himself with His Own Psycho Behavior

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They've been saying that for a long time, that Ukraine cannot go into NATO. And I'm OK with that. I just want the word whether they are or they're not. But it certainly would seem to be that most people have said that that is something that's not going to happen.

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Trump Nukes Himself with His Own Psycho Behavior

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I'm dealing with President Putin largely on the phone, and we ultimately expect to meet. In fact, we expect that he'll come here and I'll go there, and we're going to meet also probably in Saudi Arabia the first time. We'll meet in Saudi Arabia, see if we can get something done. But we want to end that war. That war is a disaster.

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Trump Nukes Himself with His Own Psycho Behavior

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Oh, I'd like it to be closed immediately. Look, the Department of Education's a big con job.

The MeidasTouch Podcast

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And the prices from one year to the next are the same. And their mortgage, all their debt payments dropped. This kid. Oh my God, there he is again. No, oh!

The MeidasTouch Podcast

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Do you respect Ukraine? Say it, what? Do you view Ukraine as an equal member of this peace process? It's an interesting question. I think they have to make peace. Their people are being killed, and I think they have to make peace. I said that was not a good war to go into, and I think they have to make peace. That's what I think.

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I don't think it's practical to have it, personally. I know that a new secretary of defense who's excellent, Pete, made a statement today saying that he thinks it's unlikely or impractical. I think probably that's true. I think long before President Putin, they said there's no way they'd allow that. This has been going on for many, many years.

The Viall Files

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Okay. Well, no. How small, how big do you think that fish is? Just judging by your gut instinct, how big do you think that fish is?

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Well, she was really small. Well, Nemo's... Okay, but think of clown fish, I guess, yeah. So what happened is basically she was dying and she wanted to see the sun.

The Viall Files

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We're not. No, this is not. This is science. This is science. Is it science to say publicly? Yes. Okay. She was dying and she wanted to see the sun before she died. So she swam up to the surface.

The Viall Files

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You're mad at him for TV purposes, not for his personal well-being.

The Viall Files

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Oh, I meant Whitney Cummings has other stuff she can be embarrassed for.

The Viall Files

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It did. If I were Brittany in that situation, I would have been it would have made me feel like a very specific type of way, having been in that situation before. Sure. But also at the same time, it's not like Devin did anything wrong. He just didn't know.

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But also like if I was Brittany, I would have probably done the exact same thing she did, which was like, you know what? Maybe this isn't the right relationship for me. If you know what I mean. Sure.

The Viall Files

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She could be a number psycho online. You know, she could really care about who's following and unfollowing her.

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Yeah. Okay. Would be creepy. But his whole line, could that not have been, because as Alex was saying, they have so many conversations they don't include. The editors put that in specifically.

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My wife. If I was married to Rihanna, I would do the exact same thing. She would be my number one priority.

The Viall Files

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I think it's also can be important in a relationship to share similar core values. For sure.

The Viall Files

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Well, we shall see. Yeah, I guess we'll watch it. And that's why that's why I'm interested to see what happens with them. Where is the vacation at? Do we know?

The Viall Files

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They flash back to it. That's that Halloween training. She knows how to hide from Michael Myers.

The Viall Files

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She called Boze Judge Judy? That was crazy. For calling you out twice?

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I just have an issue when people spend $30,000 on something that's kind of ugly.

The Viall Files

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I understand. I would not spend $30,000 on the banana. However, I do think it's funny. And so I'd love a good bit. I was going to say the banana I think is in the millions. The banana.

The Viall Files

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yeah see a bit not worth the millions i like i support spending money on a bit but as far as and let's say if i had thirty thousand dollars to spend on a bag i'll spend it on a bag but that's the point i know yeah i mean three hundred thousand dollars a month i know i just saw that bag and i was like we'll see what happens and how what context it's aired in but when you start like flexing your cash

The Viall Files

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She's a diva taking the world by storm, Leia. It's really the only thing I care about right now, if I'm being honest.