John Brennan
Appearances
REAL AF with Andy Frisella
831. Andy & DJ CTI: Trump Sits Down With Hannity, ICE Arrests Illegal Migrants & Agency Caught Deploying Sneaky Tactics
The only reason why I still had a security clearance, as I have for the past number of years since I left government service, was for the benefit of the government. So that if the CIA or another government agency wanted to call me in to discuss a classified matter, they could do that. And so it was really for the government's benefit.
REAL AF with Andy Frisella
831. Andy & DJ CTI: Trump Sits Down With Hannity, ICE Arrests Illegal Migrants & Agency Caught Deploying Sneaky Tactics
It would facilitate those classified discussions with myself, as well as with former directors, as well as other former members of the intelligence community that had those clearances. Again, yesterday's EO was bizarre among many of the bizarre executive orders that he had signed out.
REAL AF with Andy Frisella
831. Andy & DJ CTI: Trump Sits Down With Hannity, ICE Arrests Illegal Migrants & Agency Caught Deploying Sneaky Tactics
And as you point out, he misrepresented the facts in that executive order because it said that we had suggested that the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian disinformation. No, we said it was. for the hallmarks of Russian information operations, including the dumping of accurate information, which is what we said in that letter.
REAL AF with Andy Frisella
831. Andy & DJ CTI: Trump Sits Down With Hannity, ICE Arrests Illegal Migrants & Agency Caught Deploying Sneaky Tactics
So again, this was just his effort to try to get back at those individuals who have criticized him openly and publicly in the past, and I think very legitimately.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E2: Who's the father? | Bad Results
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S30 E2: Who's the father? | Bad Results
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S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
So I was actually really excited about the part where you get to get behind the wheel of the car and drive 100 miles an hour with your girl in labor. That part sounded like a lot of fun, but never got to do that.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
I had the little scissors and cut the umbilical cord and the whole thing.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
I'm alone with 10 doctors in a room with a screaming baby.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
I've probably held a baby one time in my entire life up until that point, so I don't even really know what I'm doing. One of the doctors picked up the baby and just kind of handed it to me, and they're instructing me on, all right, here's where the head goes. It's just us two.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
I had my whole entire family, I'm talking grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, my sister, everybody's there. So everyone comes in, we're passing the baby around and everything. And a couple hours go by and eventually they're like, all right, she's out of surgery.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
That was kind of where things started getting a little bit difficult. More difficult. She wants him. I want him. It's an important day.
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S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
On the phone, she outlines very clearly to me that we're not going to be able to figure this out together, that she's not going to allow me to see him under any circumstances.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
I'm just overwhelmingly depressed trying to navigate through this and Not being able to see my kid and not just, it was terrible. It was so hard.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
Five o'clock rolls around and I'm like, hey, listen, I'm about to head that way. I'm about to leave work and I'm really excited to see him. Thank you for letting me see him, that kind of thing. And then I get a text message from her maybe like 30 minutes later saying, And it's, hey, sorry, plans have changed. You're not going to see Travis today because he's not your son. Call your lawyer.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
I'm like, what? What do you mean he's not my son? So I call her 10 times, no answer, of course. And so I do what she says and I call my lawyer.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
I leave work. I leave my job. I don't say a word to my boss. I walk out the door. I'm panicking. What is this? Why am I reading this on a text message? What's going on? I get in my car. I start driving home. I'm freaking out. I'm panicking.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
We did a DNA test and it came back 99.97. There's no backtracking from that. It is what it is. The test is done. There is no other DNA test. What do you mean?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
It was 0%. The results came back to 0%. And we put those test results side by side with this other guy's test results, who's 100%. And then all of a sudden, the pieces of the puzzle started coming together. It's like, all right, well, I guess that first test wasn't right.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
How is it that a year ago, I'm 99.97% a match to this human, and now here we are a year later and I'm 0%?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
And I had to ask myself, should I? Is this the right thing to do? Do I sign these papers and basically sign my son away to some other guy that I've never even met before? Is that the right thing to do? I don't know. My gut is telling me, no, this is my kid. What do you mean? I don't care what the results are.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
Yeah, we call it the fake baby now. Obviously, it's been close to 10 years, so we kind of joke about it now.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
I guess I had thought that I was this one-off, you know, chance, because, you know, it's not 100, it's 99.97. So I'm thinking, all right, well, I guess I was just at 0.03. How could I be that unlucky? It's just so hard for me to wrap my brain around. Did she manipulate something? Is this her? Is it this company? Who's to blame here?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
To this day, it's been a mystery. To this day, it blows my mind that this happened to me.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
This wasn't just some flawed test result. This is something fishy.
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S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
Yeah, kind of. Honestly, there's like so many restaurants around here. I just walk. Sorry. I'm very nervous.
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S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
It was disgusting. It was just a nasty, gnarly... You know, picture five dudes all living under one roof and everyone's got their friends over, you know, every night and just having fun. I mean, we're all in college and there's no real responsibilities. And, you know, we split rent, you know, scraping by, working jobs and going to school. Partying.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
And just partying and having fun, you know what I mean?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
Started saving for a house when I was like 13. So my plan was always to, you know, buy a house and, you know, start a life and get a job and get married, have kids. You know, that's all, you know, the normal kind of like flow of things.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
We were never exclusive. It was nothing official like that. And she was fun. We went to high school together. She was cool. She was popular. She was really pretty and had a lot of friends. And, you know, everything was cool.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
I actually remember the moment precisely. I'm driving to work and she calls me and says that she thinks she's pregnant. You know, your heart just dives down deep into your stomach and this can't be real. But yeah, she was. She took the tests, went to the doctor, confirmed definitely pregnant.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
You know, she doesn't recall any kind of significant moment that would lead her to believe it's either one of us in particular. So as far as I'm concerned, it's a coin toss. And she's very early stages pregnancy, not showing or anything like that. What do you do? Do you wait until the baby's born?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
I've never been in a situation like this. So we just look up, is it possible to do a DNA test before a baby's born? And we find this company that will do a prenatal DNA test. And I'm like, what? What does that even mean? What is that? What does that mean?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
Yeah, this guy shows up in this old car, comes to the door with a briefcase and decides that he's gonna do this DNA test at our kitchen table, which is a pigsty. And I remember I just having to scoop beer cans to the side and he throws down his briefcase and whips out needles. And my gut's telling me this is probably not the best situation. It didn't seem super legit.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
What are we going to do, back out? You know, we're kids. We don't know any better. We're like, I guess this is just normal. This is what people do. And yeah, this guy takes my blood right there at my kitchen table with all my buddies there and stuffs my little vial of blood into his briefcase and walks out the door with it.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
And I guess I just kind of trusted that, you know, a proper test is going to be done and I can trust these results.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
And I still remember where I was at when this phone call went down. I was on my way home from work and I pulled over in a random grocery store parking lot.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
And I remember thinking it was a little bit odd that they were kind of like, oh, we have the results. We got them here. Oh, yeah, it was positive. It's a match.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
I remember just wanting to get, like, something official. Show me some paperwork. Show me something. Let me see proof. Not just some random guy on the phone telling me that I'm the father. I don't know who this guy is. Who's telling me this?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
And yeah, at the very bottom, it just says 99.97% match. And I'm like, all right, well, hey, that seems pretty official.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
As soon as I saw those test results, it was like a line in the sand immediately. Right then and there, things just changed. My priorities changed, my perspective, my outlook on things changed. Everything I did was now geared towards building a life and building a future for this child.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
I'm like, all right, I guess Christmas is the time I'm going to introduce her to the whole family. So bring her to my family Christmas with probably 30 family members that have never heard of her, never had any knowledge of her existence. My family's super Christian and just this isn't like the traditional way of doing things. So it was difficult for sure.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S30 E1: The “Fake Baby” | Bad Results
What did you get at a grandma's show?