Jared Weiss
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The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
But like the Celtics there, when Porzingis comes back, it will change. But like they've got eight guys who always can play. And that's their advantage at the end of the day. And so I think that's a difference between this team last year at the beginning of the year was you didn't know that they always have eight guys that, you know, are going to be really good at both ends of the ball.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
And obviously that's what allows them to be consistent now.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
I think it's already pretty steamy in that place. Now, there's two things that's going for Philadelphia here. One, it's early. And while they may have the worst record in the NBA, they're also not that far from like fourth place. It's the East. Yeah, it's the East. Who cares? It's like who wants to be a millionaire at this point? It's all made up points at this point.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And also the reason why I think this originally came out the way it did is Tyrese Maxey and Joel Embiid are very close friends. Joel Embiid has been a major advocate for Maxey.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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in the organization in their work off the court they're training together stuff like that like these guys are good these guys have the relationship where maxi's supposed to be the one that's calling joelle and dino right i think what's interesting about this story is it was it really comes away looking like maxi is the one trying to set the culture for this team which says something considering it's an elephant in the room jared
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
And you have an elephant in the room. And whether you want that elephant to be a bean, whether it's Paul George, who is somebody that should be, you know, should be coming in there and being a culture center. It feels like this is really Maxie's work here. And this has been I mean, hey, Maxie was the one that had to carry the team on his back at the beginning of the year.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
And then he got hurt because they had to run him into the ground to stay afloat. And he's like paying the price for that. And so I could totally see why he's frustrated being like, guys, they had to carry the team while you were recovering. And now I'm the one that's out recovering. I need to see you guys match my, you know, match my style on that. Match my freak on that.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
That's what I was trying to think of.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
Why do you seem to be so much younger than me that I can't be asked that question? That's ridiculous. No, no, no, no.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
Well, that is what I told them. And they all agreed they would lose in Boston during the NBA Cup. Makes sense. The stakes are higher. For the sake of entertainment.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
Perfectly planned. Exactly. Adam Silver's just kind of like doing the Smithers or Mr. Burns, Mr. Burns thing. They so they said all the right things to prepare for a close loss, a three point loss coming into this game. earlier today at Shooter Round or yesterday, I should say. We are podcasting here.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
They were very adamant, especially Donovan Mitchell, with win, lose, or draw, which hopefully it doesn't happen. This is a lesson moment. This team, they know they're not going 80. Well, they presume they're not going 82-0. They probably knew they were going to lose this game, right? Like they were short-handed, you know, and it's the Celtics. Yeah. Yeah, they were short wings.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
They were missing almost all of their wings. And they got Porter Jr., which there's always a Porter Jr. There's three Porter Juniors in the league right now. I can't believe it. There was four last year. Shout out to Otto. But... They got everything that they really could out of their roster, at least in the second half. And obviously their supporting cast shot lights out.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
Darius Garland had basically the worst shooting game of his career. He tends to do that against Boston. But the point I was trying to make before I ventured off is that they knew that whether they won or lost tonight, this was going to be more about we're facing the defending champs. We're facing a team that we know is getting up for this game that has an advantage over us.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
How are we going to stack up against them? And they played poorly in the first half. They played really well in the second half. I think even that second half, as well as they played, it revealed some of the disadvantages that they have, at least in their current makeup, against a team like Boston, who, of course, is the measuring stick that the rest of the league is going against.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
But there's a lot of optimism. And they really came out of this game being like, you know, we saw what we could do against this team. We got a lot to work on. We're feeling pretty optimistic that the next time that we face the Celtics, we're going to be a lot more prepared and we're going to have the upper hand.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Well, I think it's not just that they were missing some of their good complementary shooters because, you know, Niang took his shots, Porter took shots. Jerome, did he take a three? He didn't take a three. Yeah, no. I think this is twofold. We see this a lot with this Cavs-Celtics matchup. Garland will have, like... Four good minutes in the game.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
And then the rest of it, solid process, just not good results. So they need him to step up. Mitchell also struggled with his shot early in this game. And then he just went crazy in the fourth quarter. And I think what really got him going was they went to the K to switch and had Donovan really attack that later in the third quarter.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
And what got them back into the game, which is the thing that when I asked Kenny Atkinson about it after the game, he was like, my bad, guys.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
was they didn't really go into that evan mobley switch attack until the second half and coming out of halftime i was like i know they're either going mobley in the post or mitchell at the top of the arc or both and it was both yeah because they had to mismatch target more effectively and you know mobley felt that they were too bogged down in that and that they were losing some of the rhythm of their offense what makes the cavs so interesting is they don't pass the ball a ton but what they do is they have lots of cross-cutting movement underneath and so
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
You know, the defense is so fixated on Mitchell and Garland, two of the most incredible ball handlers in the game. And then they look over their shoulder and there's like a bunch of guys crossing. They don't even know what the hell's going on. And then all of a sudden, boom, the Cavs are attacked. It's one pass and boom, they already got an open shot. And so they weren't really doing that.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
And they got a lot more towards that in the second half. And that's a credit to the Celtics. The Celtics defensive scheme and their defensive personnel just makes it really hard for Cleveland to play. Especially that starting line. Yeah.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
And the big thing for Boston is nobody else is turning the ball over really besides Tatum and Brown. Kata had that really ugly stretch where that happened. And I mean, when this team's at full strength, you're not getting a lot of Kata. He's actually is a matchup that makes sense in this. And what was interesting, one thing is very we're getting to real minutia with the Celtics.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
They're the chance people care is no Luke Cornett at all in this game. And lots of Nimesh Keita. And I think they liked Cornette in this matchup in the past because he's 7'2", and he comes off the ground, he's smart with his reads.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Celtics End Cavs Streak + Shake Up Trades?
Against the way that this Cavs team is playing, where they're so clever, and they're so curious with the way that they move Mobley and Allen around, it was really surprising that they stuck with Keita. But I thought Keita... You know, early in this game seemed even seem out of place. Second half, it went very poorly for him. So we'll see. We'll see what that ends up meaning for them long term.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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I mean, they're so good that like whatever. And that's how I always felt with the Celtics last year. That's how I feel with them this year. Any any sort of flaws that they show are pretty much whatever. And that's been that's been a testament to their coaching staff, to their rosters. Like they're very good at breaking habits. They're very good at identifying issues when they pop up.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And this is also a team that has to load manage its center rotation a lot. So I think that's going to lead to a lot of inconsistency. And, you know, you look at it, it's like KP coming back from that surgery, Kata and Cornette deal with some injuries often. And then obviously Al Horford is 95 years old, although it doesn't seem to matter.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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So they, like they have a lot of maintenance and pacing they have to do with their center rotation. And that obviously puts a lot of responsibility on the Jays who are the other bigger guys in their rotation to handle a lot of physicality defensively. So I think that's going to lead to some inconsistencies. And so, you know, the,
The Athletic NBA Daily
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I think it's that they also, you know, Peyton Pritchard has has really transformed his game this year. He's become become like a pretty complete. He looks like a starter, Jared. I mean, he looks like he could be an all-star if he put him in certain teams. I mean, probably all-star level and being an all-star.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Yeah, all-star level and all-star are two different things because there's like 50 guys that are all-star level, but only if you make it. But he's been so good, and Drew Holiday hasn't really been that good shooting and scoring this year. They have a bit of a dilemma here to figure out, like, who's their closing lineup? Which is crazy to say on Drew Holiday.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Yeah. And we're seeing Pritchard closing sometimes. And there's a good reason for it. Like, it's he's not just like a hot street kind of guy. Like he he kind of does it all for their offense now in his defense has been good enough. We'll see how it is. You know, a game like Philadelphia, assuming that Embiid and George are both playing, which I think they're going to.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Yeah. So that's a team that can really catch Pritchard out on an island on some switches and we'll see how they attack them. But that's kind of the thing the Celtics are figuring out at this point is like, where are their vulnerabilities? Because besides just some inconsistencies and some guys not being healthy, there's not a lot for this team.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And but OK, but it's early. It is early. I don't think that they're doing this just for the fun of it to see if it's viable thing. I think they're doing it on nights where it makes sense. And Holiday shooting thirty two point four percent from three at this point. He's probably kind of come back around like he's been shooting well generally the last few years when he's in these spot up roles.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And obviously last year he was great. As long as holiday shooting the ball decently, like I think he's going to be out there because he's he brings so much defensively. But, you know, these guys had long summers and it's not a surprise to see them come out a little bit, you know, a little bit sluggish. But, you know, White's been great. Tatum's been great. Hasn't really been an issue for them.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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So, you know, I don't know exactly what it is with holiday, but I would assume that he's going to come around and get back close to what he was last year at some point.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Well, obviously, the Celtics defense, it's it's really hard to stay in your offensive identity the way you want to, because their whole thing is we're going to take away a lot of the advantages you create and we're going to force you to attack cross matches. That's that's their thing. They're going to switch a lot. We'll see how it goes on and beat.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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I assume Porzingis, if if they're in the drop, like he's going to be kind of dealing with them, beat in the post a lot. But like the Celtics, this is a question for them of like, can they handle the physicality of Embiid? Assuming Embiid is is playing, can they can they handle a team that will draw doubles and force them to rotate and close out a lot?
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Because obviously that's one of the ways you can beat the Celtics. You can get a ton of threes up against them. I don't know if the Sixers are going to be able to do that. I'm hopeful. But this is this game is mostly about the Sixers. This is about like, can the Sixers just like get it together for a big marquee game and make a statement?
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Because like they got to make a statement at some point and whatever, if they can keep all the outside noise out, that's great. But like they got to do it for themselves.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Well, I think with the Sixers, the resolution is to find an offensive identity that can persist regardless of who's out there. So obviously, when you have Embiid versus not having Embiid, that changes pretty much everything.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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I've been the one thing I've been disappointed with with Embiid is that I don't think he has first versatile eyes his game as much as I expected that he would from a few years ago. Even if he isn't quite as reliant on just like pounding into the post. But I thought I thought we would see a ton more short roll playmaker on the move kind of stuff.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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We're not quite seeing it as much as I had hoped for. So they need to find something that lasts every single night, whether he's resting, whether George is out.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Fox Trades, Warriors, Knicks and Celtics | Christmas Extravaganza
And that's something where it's Tyrese Maxey transition driving kick games, counting on these other complementary wings to be decent playmakers, learning how to use the Abusele drumming like in the short roll effectively so that they have some consistency when they go from first unit to second unit and game to game. And they just haven't really had it yet.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Keep shooting threes. Don't listen to the haters. I mean, there could be some refinement to their three point selection, but I've generally felt like their threes are fine. Maybe find a little bit more consistency on defense like that. That would probably be it.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Well, I mean, you mentioned it, but they're part of this pack in the West between five and 12, right? And to me, they're two of obviously the more discussed, probably the two most discussed of those. And I think they're really in similar situations and seem to me kind of be similar level of team where you have your fading giant of a figure, right? Top 10 players of all time.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Obviously, LeBron and Steph. LeBron older. He's about to turn 40 this month. I think like this week, right? Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, he's kind of battling age more than we've seen in previous years. He stepped away from the team for a week, basically kind of like regenerating his, you know, motor.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And I saw them play the Kings twice and he looked awesome, particularly in the first half of the second Kings game. It was like bully ball power. LeBron, he'd kind of gotten his gas tank refilled.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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But he also did like a post shoot around like state of, you know, the union address type thing in Sacramento, which was pretty interesting. And he, you know, he's pretty openly admitting like, you know, it takes more these days, which, you know, it's it's expected. It's crazy. It's taken this long to really even see, you know, him starting to start to chip away.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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But Steph Curry, similarly with the Warriors, maybe not to the degree where he's taken a week away, but he sat some games because of this double knee tendonitis. He's openly talked about how it's something.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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he's dealing with as he gets older um and both of them have what we would probably all consider um average supporting cast that aren't like championship supporting cast and i do think the league and and the country in a lot of ways would still love to see these guys at the highest level competing west finals type games we saw it in the olympics right i mean that was great theater when they were together um but they're both i just don't
The Athletic NBA Daily
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think have enough and you do wonder you know come trade deadline can can you know their respective front offices help them we'll see uh but it is it's it is interesting to see them both kind of at the same state and meeting on a showcase stage right christmas they're the big brands um but kind of as as aging players with flawed rosters around them
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Yeah, look, I don't think they have deep chemistry issues, and I think that's what he's alluding to, right? I mean, obviously, you go back a few years to the preseason punch and everything. I do think they're probably in a better, more veteran state in the locker room, and that's fine, but that doesn't necessarily lead to wins.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And losses, eventually, when they pile up, a two-in-nine stretch, you can like each other all you want. Suddenly, there's a lot more. When there's something to be blamed for, which is losses, right? Right. Everybody, including the outside world, is looking who needs to be blamed here. Is it the front office?
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Is it, you know, various players, the young guys wanting too much, the old guys aren't, you know, what they used to be, whatever. And that leads to bad vibes. Even if, again, it's not like, you know, dislike of each other in the locker room.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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they're going through a rough patch right now. And, and they're also in this strange transitional phase with, you know, the, this young layer of the roster again, and you're whatever it is now of this two timeline plan, trying to, you know, become good enough, but they also have their own careers in mind.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Obviously Jonathan coming goes like, you know, at the forefront of this, they keep yanking his, you know, roll around where it's like, you know, last week there,
The Athletic NBA Daily
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platforming him like you know right he's this is now the jonathan kamigas show and now it's like uh it's like you know what i think kyle anderson's gonna start over you tonight um it's very confusing for a young guy yeah you know steve had the interesting comments post game basically like on you know
The Athletic NBA Daily
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telling his young guys, but it felt very directed at Kaminga, like, you know, stop taking contested 15 footers early in the clock. I'm paraphrasing what he said. You got Steph Curry on the team, but it's like, you know, you keep doing, you keep yanking Kaminga's life and role and potentially financials around enough.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And he's just whatever, you know, it's like, you're not going to get this extremely bought in version of him necessarily. So they're going through stuff as they integrate Dennis Schroeder into the lineup, but
The Athletic NBA Daily
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you know they're coming off a very nice road win in Minnesota they did get that we'll see what happens we're talking before the Monday night game against the Pacers but leading into Christmas we'll see
The Athletic NBA Daily
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yeah he looks great he's having a good year it's not he started really good remember they went they got out to what was their start like seven and two something like that the warriors were the same yeah yeah that's right um 12 and three actually and then two and nine in the 11 after but it's
The Athletic NBA Daily
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far as Davis goes that's one thing that he has or that LeBron has that Steph doesn't which is like a legitimate in his prime all-star you know superstar and you know you could tell LeBron's tried to really the last four years like tried to transition it to the point that's like hey you're Davis you're the one and I'm the two
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And I think you saw it in their title year, the bubble year, right? He was incredible. I covered that Lakers team on that bubble title run. He was, you know, there was an argument coming out of those playoffs that he was like a top three, top five player in the league. Absolutely. That's no longer there, but still he wrecks defensively.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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I mean, he's certainly a defensive player of the year candidate. He's scoring better. I think JJ Reddick's has a little bit more of a complex, you know, better offense to suit Davis. And He's having a good season, but to me, he's not the concern, right? I think you have a legitimate co-star for LeBron. The concern is like rotation spot three through 11 on that team.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Yes, because I think one of the problems that these guys have is like reaching down in the tank on a nightly basis during an NBA season when it's January and you're facing the Magic, Monday, December 23rd and you're facing the Pacers, for example, or whatever.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Christmas against LeBron, Christmas against Steph, Christmas against your in-state big brand rival is not the day where those two are like, I don't know if I have it tonight, right?
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Like you expect them to come with juice. And when they come, when they still like turn it up to, to, to eight, nine, 10, they're a spectacle. So I do expect it to be a great matchup. Number one. And then stakes wise, these are, I mentioned it, but this is a compact matchup.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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part of the standings just like it was last year when they were basically the similar versions of what they are now uh and i don't know if you got the standings up i believe the lakers member was the last day of the regular season everybody's all tied up bunched up the lakers win and end up getting that uh into the seven eight plan and playing them their way into the playoffs where the warriors obviously dropped right at the end into that 9 10 bracket um
The Athletic NBA Daily
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I would assume they're going to have very similar records come April again. So these head to head matchups are huge, right? There's two game swings one way or the other. You win it or you lose it. So like there's like relatively, you know, decent stakes, you know, I think, too.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Clarity on Jonathan Kaminga's role and future within the franchise. Are you going to give him an opportunity, a long runway to figure out if he can be like kind of an ascendant 32 minute per night player on your team? Are you going to trade him?
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Are you going to kind of keep, you know, bouncing him back and forth, minimizing him, but still have him on the roster come February 9th or whatever the day after the trade deadline is. I would just, that's the New Year's resolution. He's in his fourth season. He's a restricted free agent this summer. The league wants to know about him, not even just us, right?
The Athletic NBA Daily
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People who want to trade for him, people who want to either give him or not give him a huge contract this summer. He wants to know about himself. Viewers want to know. But I think we just need to see more of him to know more.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Yeah, he's he's one of the most complete wings we've seen at the high school level in a decade, at least like you have to look at guys like R.J. Barrett, Zion Williamson, Andrew Wiggins, all guys that when they went to college were pretty, pretty elite like that's. He's at that level and maybe even a little bit more skilled than those guys. And so he just went to BYU.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And this is the second year in a row that BYU has landed like an elite prospect, this time the number one guy in high school. And he kind of became the star of this NIL bidding war that really escalated NIL to a new level in the basketball sphere.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Yeah, I mean, let's start with the Sixers because it's been the Sixers are having is this like the worst season we've seen for a team and like the last five to 10 years as far as like the expectations. And it's not like with, you know, you could look at Memphis last year. where they just had massive injuries that kind of crushed them from the start.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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This is like just guys in and out in a very uncomfortable, unstable way. The way that the franchise has managed the news dissemination of it and the way they're handling the public sphere has just been such a mess. And so it's created this anxiety around the people observing the team. And then you watch them play and they don't have an offense that makes sense to me.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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I just they seem lost offensively. And, you know, Embiid has been in and out. Paul George is like kind of still there, but also having lots and lots of down games. And it's really been on Tyrese Maxey to carry the load. And he's good enough to do that for a few quarters. I just I just don't think Tyrese is at the point where you can really expect him to lead a team for four quarters.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And I mean, I don't think it's him. I think it's like you're basically asking him to score 40 points a game.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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It's just not very realistic. I mean, Joel did it. Joel is one of the few guys in the NBA that can do it. And so every time that I've watched the Sixers play, there's a few minutes here or there. I'm like, OK, they're cooking, but they just they don't cook for long. They're like a microwave. Like it's two minutes and then it's done. But it tastes like crap and it burns your mouth.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Yeah, I was hoping it made sense when it came out.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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No notes, no notes. Sometimes the brilliance comes to you. I see it. Just like the Celtics offense. I mean, the Celtics have been very good this year. I wouldn't agree that they picked up right where they left off last year. I think that they aren't quite executing at that same level, mostly defensively. I just I don't think their defense is quite as hounding as it was before.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
I don't know why. It doesn't make sense. I understand the, you know, it's kind of like when you're a golfer and you feel like your backswing's bad. There's this one famous video of Tiger Woods where he stopped himself in the middle of a backswing because somebody took a photo in the air at the shutter.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
And everyone's like, that's remarkable that he was able to somehow get his brain to stop in the backswing. It's harder than you think when the flow of the play, when you're trying to do the whole no timeout gambit isn't working out. But like they should have, they should have done it there. They could have done it there. They couldn't have Tiger Winston and they should have.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
the irony is aren't the wolves on the same drought and they just won two in a row yeah it's like they sh they should win around this drought they take 43s they make a few more than their opponent that gives it their edge but the thing is the execution has not been good brown and tatum both look like they're playing hobbles i mean everybody's hobbled right now yeah i made that point to one of the next players after the game and they're like bro we're we're only playing five guys so
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
Everybody is hurt. It's the playoffs. And we expect more from Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. It's pretty simple. I like to do pretty nuanced analysis of X and O's and down screens and wedges and whatever the hell. If this is just Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum, just do not have it right now. Plain and simple.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
I disagree. So this is the thing, though. I would have connected to the pre last year Celtics. Like there's been evolutions right now. We are seeing some of it. But I also think these guys are just pretty hurt. But also like the Knicks defense is not the same defense from the regular season. Talking to some of the Knicks staffers, they're like, we've been wondering this whole year.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
is our defense actually going to be better in the postseason like we kind of predicted before the season when they made the mikhail bridges trade it ever since every you know halfway through that piston series mikhail bridges said all right i'm tired of kate cunningham i'm tired of losing time to play some defects And his defense has just really, really taken the step forward.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
Two game-winning steals in a row in this series. Amazing. I've never seen that before. I'm sure it's happened. I've never seen it. His defense is better. OG's defense is really good. When they're able to keep their non-elite wings... on the ball at the top, and those guys are filling the gaps in the lanes, the Celtics are not going anywhere.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
They're not getting anywhere with the ball, and they don't have Porzingis to play over the top right now. Porzingis is sick. Whatever this is, he says that he's ill. It's some sort of reference to what he had before. We've heard bronchitis, but this is a lineup with bronchitis, is it?
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
So whatever's going on there, they don't have their edges that they usually have that make them better than everybody else.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
The stats say usually. Yes. And then sometimes, and there's sometimes, and this is probably a sometimes. It doesn't mean that the Celtics are going to win the series, but the Celtics have proven themselves at this point. They can adjust. They can find different ways to attack. They have the defensive talent. Like, these guys know how to dig deep. I think this is more of a question of attrition.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
You know, teams don't repeat because... They break down because they don't have the edge of the emotional try of that first time they do it. It's hard. You know, Jason Tatum said at some point in the last couple of weeks during a presser that this season was different because, you know, he didn't feel that that edge of like not being champion anymore.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
He was basking in the glow and he played great. Like Jason Tatum had a great season. He's better this year than he was last year. And in the playoffs, his defense has been great. Playmaking has been great. But this next series has just been different. And everyone's different right now. There's nobody on the Celtics team that's playing really well right now.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
While at least like New York has OG and Jalen in the fourth quarter, like they have these guys. And so, you know, the Celtics, they lost these games on a steal on the last play. Like they're not far. It's one thing here or there, and this is a totally different narrative. So I expect the series to even up. At the very least, I expect the series to get to six.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
And I just don't see the Celtics wilting here. There's nothing to indicate that at this point.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
So one, their best, their best adjustment is Kristaps Porzingis to play well, but they can't count on that right now, apparently. And then the other thing is pick and pop. Like Mitch does not want to switch. He wants to guard at the screen level, pick and pop. And they need KP for that. Horford can do that, but Cornette doesn't shoot.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
You know, maybe they need to do Tatum at the five so they can do stuff like that. Like they're going to go right. Also, don't forget, they didn't have Sam Houser in this game. He's a good three point shooter. They definitely I feel like they definitely would have gone to Houser in this game if they had it available just to get them some better shooting. Just so like.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
to have someone that could run a curl so that they can like run a play for someone else to give their guys a break. So, you know, they have, you know, if Houser can come back from his ankle sprain without they have several days off here, you know, maybe that will be helpful. But like they need Porzingis, like right now they really need him.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
And, you know, they tried they tried going over the top to him at the end of the game. And they're like, I think it worked. I think if I remember correctly, like they they tried a little bit of the stuff that they do with KP. Yeah, it just didn't work.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
And they need that stuff back because that's the stuff that, you know, those little like kind of like cross match post on stuff at the nail that they do with him. That's the stuff that gives guys like Jalen, Jason and Derek White.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
Like Cleveland is hurt and Halliburton has just been cooking at the end of these games. You know, the playoffs is is a battle of attrition. I think I said that earlier. I'll say it again. It's a battle of attrition. The team that wins the championship usually is the healthiest team. Like that's that's one of the main, main factors of the champion every year.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
And sometimes the Warriors just have 50 Hall of Famers. But like usually it's health. And that's why the Celtics stampeded through the league last year. And I think the Celtics would have won the championship last year, even if everybody was around the league was relatively healthy. But like we're seeing teams are hurt right now.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
We're seeing layoffs because there's one team sweeping and there's another team going seven. Like there's just a ton of randomness in the league. This is inherent to the three-point era. And the three-point era and the teams taking 43s has evened out a lot of the home court advantage. It's evened out a lot of the disparities. It's a lot of disparities in talent. This stuff happens.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
And also, once you get to the second round, the playing field is much more level. And maybe that's a credit to the lottery and the play-in changes in the last half decade that have evened out the league a little bit more. But let's not forget, Cleveland and OKC won an insane number of games this year, and yet it feels like everything's kind of leveled out here.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
But this is why we play, as the NBA used to say. Yeah. These series are probably all going to go a long time, hopefully. It's going to be one of the best second rounds we've had in a while.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
Let's emphasize, was in the building. The night went so poorly, we have now been kicked out of the building, and I'm standing in front of two fire trucks.
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Can the Celtics come back and beat the Knicks?
you know he sort of allowed explosion or another lot of explosion another one uh yeah i think we're okay he he should have right because at a certain point when you haven't created the advantage that you want you call time out you pull a seat bird while the play is happening in the middle of the play if it's not going the way you want call the time out they have the opportunity I don't know why.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
What an honor to be a friend and be in your life. It's like almost equally honorable things.
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Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
Can we also just note that they shot 25.0% in both games? Like the consistency has been impressive. You know, we're always looking for consistency in shooting. We never really specify what number we want to see it at. We just want to see consistency. So at least it's predictable. Okay, so the first thing here, let's credit the Knicks.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
Mitchell Robinson, I feel like it's the first person we got to talk about because his defense on the perimeter, I mean, there's been a few plays where he got killed, but he has stood up Jason Tatum on the final play of regulation twice. And then we've also had Mikael Bridges have the game when you steal on the final play of the game twice now.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
And so we're seeing this really impressive combination here of the Knicks, lesser defenders for a wing situation like a Jason Tatum or Jalen Brown. They're all doing a pretty solid job. And then that frees up Bridges and Ananobi to play in the gaps. And so two of the best guys in the league you could have in that situation.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
And so the Celtics really struggling to just crush Jalen Brunson in target pick and rolls in the fourth quarter and to be able to get Mitchell Robinson in space and be able to shoot over him or get by him consistently. It's just not happening for Boston. And, you know, Brown and Tatum have just not played well so far. And very few guys on the team look healthy right now.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
It's ironic that New York looks healthier, even though they run tips, runs those guys into the ground every single night. Um, But then also like the Celtics are missing a crazy number of completely uncontested threes. And you go back and you watch the fourth quarter of that game in game two and like Jalen Brown misses a completely uncontested pull up three like in rhythm.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
Jason Tatum gets a corner three and there's nobody on the same side of the court as him and he clanks it. Horford misses the same shot like everybody on their team that hits those wide open threes missed them all. And any one of those goes down and they win the game. And so, you know, that happens in games. Guys miss shots. You can't just be like, if that person made that shot, they win it.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
But we're talking about like the best shooters on the team that's the best shooting team in the game missing completely uncontested looks. And so that's the kind of stuff that should correct. Usually that corrects over the course of a series.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
And if the Celtics are making some of those completely uncontested threes that they are creating in the fourth quarter, then we're looking at this completely differently.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
Yeah, so listen, I got a copy of the script for next year. And the very first line in the script, it says... Jason Tatum, playoff shooting percentage, 32.3%, 7.2 attempts per game. It's in the script, guys. There's nothing we can do about it. This is what's going to happen with Jason Tatum. He's going to shoot kind of mediocre from three in the postseason.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
And there are probably some things he could change about that. He can maybe go away from ISO step-back culture, which is the only way I could describe it at this point, for three in a row. Maybe it's one of them. And if it goes down, you get another one. And maybe you don't try to shoot three in a row and you miss three of those.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
I think that there are things that he can amend to his game in the postseason. But I also think maybe part of this is that the guy doesn't really rest during the regular season much. And they had to really force him to this year.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
And so he probably also is just kind of wearing down a bit in the postseason because of how physical he plays in the playoffs and how hard he defends in the playoffs that he's it's going to affect the shooting. So maybe there's just more maintenance and load management that needs to be done over the course of the season.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
And maybe that needs to be done during the post season as well, because, you know, like we were saying before, like the guy missed a shot that should be absolute cash for him at the end of that game. And it's like, We're seeing that we see that we saw that happen earlier in the year. Every single season, his shot kind of falls apart.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
He fixes it halfway through the year, has a strong, stronger finish of the year. And maybe it's just kind of that cycle again. But I think that's just going to it's what it's going to be with JT. And that's the difference between JT and an MVP level player is just that like an MVP level player is probably going to hit 40 percent on those threes.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
And they're going to score a little bit more per game. And that's going to be a little bit of that edge.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
Well, I think the Celtics' biggest issue has been offensively more so. There's some sort of airborne Pistons virus going around, I guess, in the NBA right now, where whoever the Knicks are facing just catches this crunch time deficit. And We're just seeing Boston.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
Maybe part of it is the Knicks are hitting more shots, Boston's playing in transition less, and therefore they're getting less good looks. But I feel like the Celtics' defense has generally been pretty good in this series. And you look at the Jalen Brunson baskets in crunch time. Have you ever seen a Jalen Brunson basket in crunch time and you're like, wow, the defense is terrible there?
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
Not that often. I feel like he usually just hits really, really hard shots that very few guys can hit. Yeah. I think earlier in the fourth quarter is when they got killed with a lot of transition shooting from McHale Bridges and things of that nature. And so that's where the offense comes in. That's where the Celtics, they kept shooting through everything.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
And you could see in game two, they passed up a lot of looks. And so that's why they only took, what, like 43s instead of 63s, which is still a lot. And so I think that for them... they usually look at it as we don't want to miss layups because that's going to be guaranteed transition the other way.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
So if we're going to miss shots, we'd rather at least miss threes where our spacing allows us to get back and have that defensive shell. But if they're just missing so many shots and they're guarding in transition so often, there's going to be holes there. So Boston's defense usually starts with their offense, and I think that continues to be the case in this series.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
Well, they're in a more privileged position at this point. Because they've won the championship, I don't think there's that desperation of, like, this is our last chance to ever become champions. There's a bit of that... A bit of that stability and already having won it. And I think that's a combination of like being delusional enough to think that you can make it out of this.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
And delusion is a very important part of being a good basketball team. And then also just like the lack of fear that you'll never be a great... You'll never be recognized as a great player because if you're Tatum, if you're Brown, you've already won that championship. So I think that that actually is probably a good thing because...
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
the tension of the fear can really splinter while, you know, I think when you feel confident in yourself, it allows you to kind of stay the course more so. And the lack of desperation, I think will probably help them stay the course a little bit. And I know people are going to conflate desperation with a, they don't care.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
No, it's just like, there's a difference between I really want to win another title and I've never won a title and my career will be a waste if I don't win a title. Like there's, it's different. You can't expect somebody to have that same drive, but like the Celtics are very capable of winning this series just for,
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
forget about even the results just based on the history like you're saying like we know that they're able to turn things around that they have multiple solutions the way that they play and that they're shooting like absolute crap right now and I just don't expect them to shoot 25.0% again next game they're probably going to shoot 25.1% but even that will be a little bit of an improvement
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
Well, they haven't really played out of the post that much, and that's a big part of how they've been able to get easier offense, and we just haven't seen a lot of that, and the problem for them is that the Knicks defense, one of the things they're clearly built for is to not get cross-matched in the post, because whether it's Hart, Annobi, Bridges, whoever the five is at the time, they're always going to have four good post defenders out there, and if you really go for Brunson, Jalen Brown was able to get Jalen Brunson a few times in the post, but
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
most of the time it's hard to really get a point guard all alone in the post over and over again. Usually teams know how to switch out of that. So the post thing, maybe we'll see more just like non-cross-match post-ups, like just posting up Mikael Bridges, even though he's tall, hoping that you can get muscle through him, things like that.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
I mean, there's a very obvious adjustment, which is that Chris Opspor-Zingas is good. And that's the thing that's really killing the Celtics right now. It's just like they need K.P., They need to play through him in the high post. They need him pick and popping. Those are the two things that they've been really, really missing in the series. And he hasn't been able to deliver it.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
And they're hoping that with this illness that he's dealing with, whatever it is, that a couple of days off will allow him to actually... perform better next game. And I know watching him last game, I was watching him before warmups and you know how KP, he kind of like falls onto his front foot when he shoots the ball. It's kind of like a lean forward kind of thing.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
He was like literally like falling into his front foot. Like he could barely get off the ground. He looked like he was in really rough shape and he played like it. And if he's just like not in really, really sick and not feeling like garbage, like he's probably going to be better. And that will be such a huge boon for them because he's been really, really, like ineffective so far.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
I'm going to do Andrew a favor here. I'm going to pick number seven in honor of Jalen Brown, which means that I'm most likely going to miss the first question.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
It's funny because it feels like he's not having a great series.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
So the way I'm trying to do the arithmetic here is I'm calculating how many games he probably played his first two seasons when it was less likely he had a role where he would get 15 consistently. And so probably played about 16, 20-ish or so, each of those, right? So I'm guessing he was below 15 half of that first year. That's 10. So I'm going to guess that his... What's exactly the question?
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
Andrew, would you like to go higher or lower than 19%? Wow. I'll say lower. Lower?
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
That's funny. Here's the good news, Jared. You have control of the board. I'm going to do number eight since it was 18.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
All right, Tristan Thompson. That is correct. Aaron Neesmith.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
I don't know. I assume the buzzer's going off any second now. I can't think of who the last one is.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
I just talked to Tristan and Javante Green together like two weeks ago, so I should have remembered that one.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
no no the fun guess though would have been fun thank you okay jared do you know the answer to this question yeah this one's gonna be a deep cut probably um who's so far back in the bench that i can't remember him off the top of my head is that jordan walsh jordan walsh no wow okay it's not that deep one of them is deep okay peyton pritchard was one of them yeah
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
I was thinking Kawhi, but there's no way he's played enough games. I can't believe that.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Are the Celtics done? | Slam N Jam
Yeah, he is. I was going to say eight. He always has eight rebounds every time.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Marcus, thanks for hanging out with me. Guys, stick around after the break. Jared Weiss and I went pretty deep on the sale of the Celtics. And I got him to tell me what he thinks that it means for NBA expansion.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Wir hatten gestern große Nachrichten auf der Geschäftsseite des Basketballs. Und hier, um darüber zu sprechen, ist einer meiner Lieblingsleute, mit dem ich über Basketball spreche, Jared Weiss. Er öffnet die Celtics, unter anderem andere Dinge für die Athletik. Jared, danke, dass du uns begrüßt hast. Die Celtics haben gekauft, für wie viel Geld?
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
record six point one billion dollars that's billion yeah that's quite a bit um so talk to me about uh what exactly is happening with the celtics okay they're being sold there's a new owner they're not going to be moved or anything like that it's the boss in celtics um so fill me in on kind of the details of the sale and then who the new owner is
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Ja, es ist lustig, weil Witt Grossbeck, der Managing Governor der Celtics war, als er erneut erklärte, dass er die Mannschaft nach dem Wettbewerb verkauft hat, sehr kurz nachdem sie das Wettbewerb gewonnen haben, war es wie eine Parade. Und dann denke ich, der nächste Tag war der Verkaufserklärung. Er sagte, dass er die Mehrheitsteige verkaufen würde.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
around this time, early 2025, and then complete the deal in 2028 and was going to retain management control until that point in 2028. And we all kind of laughed at that because we're like, Adam Silver has already shot this stuff down. We just saw this go. We saw the two...
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
phase sale blow up in their face in minnesota we just saw mark human try to do the i'm still in charge thing and then he disappeared and he didn't he didn't acknowledge he was disappeared until uh the lucatrade happened and then he proudly was telling everybody oh i'm not in charge anymore that that was all them uh and so Wick scheint seinen Wunsch zu haben.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Ich kann nicht glauben, dass er das ausgibt. Aber der Deal, das erste 51 Prozent wird gemacht. Sie werden diesen Deal in ein paar Monaten abschließen, nachdem sie alle T's geschlossen haben, alle Augen geschlossen haben, alle Gemeinschaften zwischen den Zillern geschlossen haben. Und dann, im Jahr 2028, wird er mit dem Team durch das Jahr verantwortlich sein.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Und dann wird der Verkauf fertig sein und er wird nicht mehr Teil davon sein. Und es wird vollständig Bill Chisholm in seinem Gruppen sein. Und er ist ein lokaler Typ aus Nordmassachusetts, aus North Shore, wenn du Massachusetts überhaupt kennst. Er ist ein Celtics-Fan. Er ist nach Westen gegangen und hat viel Geld verdient als Privat-Equity-Typ.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Und jetzt kommt er nach Osten, um seinen Jungs-Club zu kaufen.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Ja, ich habe einmal einen wunderschönen Wochenende in Gloucester verbracht und bin auf einem alten Holzboot gefahren. Gloucester ist wunderschön. Ja, es ist unglaublich. Okay, also einer der anderen Beitragspartner für den Verkauf des Teams ist eine Privat-Equity-Gruppe, die die Währung von drei anderen NBA-Teams besitzt. Nun, schau, das scheint mir fischig zu sein.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Jedes Mal, wenn du Privat-Equity ausgibst, weißt du, ich denke an Joanne Fabrics, weißt du, irgendwie sind 97 Prozent ihrer Stores profitabel und noch sind sie in Bankruptie.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
uh allay my fears with private equity getting involved with another nba team i i mean they they they have a small enough share that they appear to not have managerial responsibilities so it's just it's you know maybe they're shorting the value or something like that who knows are they're going along on the value presumably probably not because these teams i mean how much the team was purchased for 360 million
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Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Und es verkauft für 6,1 Billionen. Also wenn ich mich an die Privatwerte betreue, die in Sport involviert wird, ist es für mich einfach so, dass das eigentlich ein Ort ist, wo man, wenn man ein bisschen Geld parkt, es scheint, dass man es machen wird.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Also die weirder Part ist einfach, dass die Liga, die diese Gruppe ermöglicht, in drei separate Teams zu investieren, es fühlt sich an, als wäre das ein mörkiger, grüner Bereich.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Und das ist der Grund, weshalb die Anreise an die managerische Verantwortung wirklich stark sein müssen, weil sie Interessenkonflikte haben. Und sie haben die Spurs. Und die Spurs sind ein Team, das in ein paar Jahren hoffentlich auch gegen die Celtics kämpft, wenn sie irgendwie auf diesem Niveau bleiben können.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
you know i i don't know how that's supposed to be handled fairly reasonably you know sovereign wealth funds are also starting to buy in they're able to get up to 20 that seemed like something that could have happened in this deal it appears not to have as far as we know now who knows but if they had a large enough stake that probably would have been announced as well so who knows we'll see but like this is this is how a lot of deals get done most deals get done where it's
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
A large investor who may not even have 50%, a few other people in like the 10s or maybe the 20s and then like a bunch of small names too to round it out. A lot of ownership groups are like 50 people or something like that. So it's kind of inevitable you're going to get private equity involved.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
I thought it was funny that Steve Pagliucco, when he made his announcement that he wasn't the one who won it and he's... Er ist der heutige Co-Anhänger der Celtics. Er wurde in den letzten Monaten von vielen Berichten als Lieblingsspieler erwähnt, um die Mannschaft zu erhalten. Er hat in seinem Letter zu den Fans erwähnt, dass seine Vorschläge alle finanzieren werden, und ich glaube, Geld.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Und es wird also keine Schulden aufgenommen werden. Es wird keine Privatsteuer involviert sein. Und das, um zu sagen, dass das eine mehr verfügbare Kassentransaktion sein wird, dass es mehr Kontrolle über die Zukunft der Franchise gibt und so weiter. Und er wollte diesen Punkt machen, aber er war auch der Vize-Chairman von Bain Capital.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
A lot of these people involved have their fair share of private equity blood on their hands. But Pagliuca is one of the best owners that we've seen in this league. He's been great. They've been the paragon of consistent success and quality management in this league in a way that very few teams have over the course of like 20 years now.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Ja, oh, naja, wenn die Celtics oder irgendeine Teil davon zu einem sovereign wealth fund verkauft hätte, hätte die Liga Fragen zu beantworten, die sie nicht mit den Wizards und ihrer Affiliation mit dem sovereign wealth fund beantwortet hätte. Gehen wir zu der Basketballseite. Denn die Geschäftsseite wird das beeinflussen.
The Athletic NBA Daily
Curry injured in Warriors win + New owners for the Boston Celtics
Was bedeutet das für die Art und Weise, wie das Team durchgeführt werden wird? In the next few years, you say that Wick Groesbeck is going to continue to be essentially the head, the figurehead of the team. Brad Stevens, assuming, is still going to be running the basketball side for years to come. Do you expect any sort of changes with new management, essentially, or new ownership, I should say?
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Die große Frage ist, sie haben ein ziemlich kleines Verteidigungsamt. Remy Cofield, der, glaube ich, Nummer vier auf der Org-Chart, oder Nummer fünf auf der Org-Chart, er ist jetzt der GM in Arkansas für ihre College-Programme. Also haben sie bereits eine Eröffnung. Vielleicht gibt es mehr Schüffeln.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Austin Ainge war, glaube ich, einer der Finalisten für den Job der Charlotte Hornets letztes Jahr, der zu Jeff Peterson ging, also wird er weiter interviewen. So they're probably going to need more people with senior level experience in their front office anyway. But the top of the org chart where it's Brad Stevens and it's Mike Zarin, there's no reason to believe that will ever change.
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Brad is one of the most respected people in the basketball world and it is clearly proven that his approach has worked very well. I can't imagine that there's anything that could happen that would take him out of that position, that isn't out of his own volition.
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Und ich habe heute in unserem Report auf The Athletic berichtet, dass er die Finalisten interviewt hat, als das Bidding stattfand, als sie an der finalen Phase kamen. Es war Teil davon, dass er mit ihnen treffen musste. Und ich würde mir vorstellen, dass Grosbeck und die Verwaltungsgruppe, die verkauft hat, wahrscheinlich wollte, dass jeder, zu dem sie verkauft hat, Brad zu halten.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Weil, wenn es etwas gibt, was sie tun können, um sicherzustellen, dass das Franchise in guten Händen ist, nachdem sie den Verkauf machen, ist es, um sicherzustellen, dass Stevens immer noch die Schiffe läuft.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Yeah. What about on the court? You mentioned the sort of timeline of events, when the title put the team up for sale. And then right after that, they locked all these guys up to long-term big money contracts. We know the new CBA, I guess at some point we got to just start calling it the CBA that we live under right now. The repeater tax just gets to be...
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tremendous by the time you get into year three and year four um do you expect this team to stick around or do they have to win a title to to run this back next season i do wonder if that matters so much is that they got to look at these individuals because if they're going to break this team apart it's not like you shatter the whole thing it's you're just swapping out some pieces
The Athletic NBA Daily
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You're just trying to reduce salary to reduce tax burden, maybe even get out of the second apron in a year or two so they can start resetting some of those penalties down the road with the draft picks. So I think the most interesting deal that they did last year was they signed Drew Holiday, who is going to turn 35 in a few weeks. He's actually a day older than me.
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So now I'm feeling old and my knee is hurting a little bit right now after doing some yoga. So I can empathize with the fact that Drew Holiday is getting older. And they signed him to a long-term deal. It was a good value deal, but it's still a lot of money. It's what, like 26 mil a year on average or something like that for four years? So they're signing this guy until his late 30s.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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This year he's had a shoulder issue and it's been affecting his shot all year. He has not been himself offensively at all. And so... They can win a title next year and then they still decide Drew is just not going to be healthy and be himself for the length of his contract.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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It's worth us biting the bullet and dumping him for whatever we can, whether it's short term money or even find a way to get off of him entirely, which probably is not possible with his salary, but who knows, just to deal with the tax bill. Und sie leben mit dem Fakt, dass sie noch Derek White in ihrem Primum haben.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Du hast Peyton Pritchard, der anfängt, in seinen Primum zu kommen und sich wirklich in die Runde zu drehen, um ein ziemlich hochwertiger Starting Caliber Spieler zu werden. An diesem Punkt sieht er sich wie ein Sartre auf jedem Contender-Level Spieler. An diesem Punkt. Und er macht nur etwa sieben Millionen pro Jahr. Der Kontrakt, den sie hinbekommen haben, ist verrückt.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Maybe they get rid of Drew, they get rid of KP and they find a way to develop a center, which they have currently nobody in the pipeline to be their legitimate starting center in the future. So that's an issue they have to figure out, because Horford presumably will retire at some point, or maybe he'll just die of old age while still in a Celtics uniform 50 years from now, who knows.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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But, you know, Luke Cornett, Emish Keita, Xavier Tillman, alle Jungs, die du in deine Rotation einstellen kannst, aber sie werden nicht mit diesen Jungs als Ansteller gewinnen. Also brauchen sie eine Lösung im Start Center. Und Porzingis relativ gesund, so weit er seitdem er zurückgekommen ist von seiner Ankelschmerzen dieses Jahr.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Außer diesem mystischen Virus, das ihn für ein paar Wochen gehalten hat. Er war ziemlich gesund. Aber wir wissen die Geschichte mit KP an diesem Punkt. Wir wissen einfach nicht, wie er sich aufhören wird, besonders über einen Playoff-Rund. Und er ist auf der anderen Seite von 30. Und Jungs seiner Größe, die diese niedrigeren Körperverletzungen haben,
The Athletic NBA Daily
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dass sie ihren Pop sehr schnell verlieren können. Also Porzingis sieht nicht aus wie ein Zehntier-Spieler. Sie schauen darauf hin, ihn bis in die late 30s zu halten, wie sie es mit Drew Holiday waren. Vielleicht ist das so, wie sie das tun. Sie müssen nicht Jalen Brown handeln und sich zu einem Supermax-Spieler befinden.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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If you can have two supermax players that are worth it, you don't get rid of that. That's the holy grail of team building here. They know that those guys are good because they just want a championship. We don't need to overthink this whole Jays thing. It's really worked. It's a question of would Jalen want something different? Would Tatum want something different? Probably not. I think we've
The Athletic NBA Daily
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It's pretty clear that Tatum is the guy, if they have to choose anybody, just because of how completely well-rounded his game is at this point. But so like, I don't think they have to just, they don't have to completely blow these things up. They can take out some of the older guys, which is what you're supposed to do when you're trying to sustain a contender.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And Brad Stevens made it a point during the summer last year to say, We're looking at this as like a 10-year thing and there's going to be ups and downs over the course of that 10 years to try to be consistently competitive, which I think implies that a lot of these guys that they love, they might have to dump them in order to manage the salary and build back up.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Yeah, quickly before we get out of here, this sale of the Boston Celtics has been looming since the summer, $6.1 billion. It's a great anchor for the NBA, for franchise owners. But what about for the league and this being the first domino in an expansion move, right? You now have this $6.1 billion mark.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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I assume that we're starting at 5 billion for a new franchise at this point, now that you've established this level. Do you think that we're going to see the expansion talks get heating up as we go into the summer?
The Athletic NBA Daily
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It all hinged on this. I remember hearing... vor drei oder vier Monaten, dass einige dieser Bids für die Celtics unter 5 Billionen kommen. Und die Liga war schmerzhaft, weil, wenn einer der drei Marquis-Franchises, vielleicht können wir die Warriors da oben hinsetzen, vier Marquis-Franchises in der NBA, weniger als das ist, was du für dein Franchise-Fee willst,
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Du bist in riesigen, riesigen Träumen. Es muss sein, dass du das durch ein Geld befreien musst. Und das ist das, was sie bekommen. Also, wenn sie einen 5-Billionen-Dollar-Fonds für jede dieser Teams wollen und vermutlich in diesem Punkt Vegas und Seattle, brauchten sie die Celtics, um diesen 6-Billion-Hurdle zu befreien.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Idealerweise bräuchten sie das Rekord von nordamerikanischen Teams, das sie gemacht haben. Und jetzt kann die NBA sagen, schau dir das an, alle. Unsere letzte Verkaufsverkaufsverkauf brach den Rekord. We need to be breaking records here. We need earth-shattering prices if you want to put your team in Seattle, put your team in Las Vegas. I'd love Mexico City. That would be pretty great.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Logistically, it's not going to work. Yeah, but I love the food in Mexico City is the best. So hopefully one day. But this is a huge win for the NBA. This is a huge win for all the other owners because the expansion fee goes to all of them, right? So this is huge because they can... Es kann die Revenue da reinbringen.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Es kann helfen, einige der Geld, die sie wahrscheinlich nicht in den TV-Dealen bekommen haben, die sie gehofft hätten. Also das war ein bisschen unter dem, was sie gehofft hatten. Und dann ist es offensichtlich so, dass es in Vegas groß sein wird für die Liga finanziell. Es könnte für den Rest der Menschheit schrecklich sein, aber es ist zumindest gut für die Leute, die den NBA-Stock verkaufen. Ja.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And a return to the Seattle media market. That'll be a pretty good one. At least Kevin Pelton will be happy. Yeah, let's not forget those franchise fees. The owners and the league do not share that as a part of basketball-related income with the players. They get to keep that pie. That's a pretty nice pie. I'd have a slice of that. Jared, thank you so much. I appreciate your work.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Again, guys, go and read him at The Athletic. He's going to be covering this story. It's not over yet. And I think as expansion looms, Jared's probably going to be on that beat too. Thanks to Marcus Thompson for joining me in the first part of the show. That's going to do it for today. Thank you guys for listening. As always, this has been the NBA Daily. Thanks for waking up with us.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Yeah, I definitely think he's going to want to be there for that. Let's talk a little bit about the game, because the Warriors did wind up winning this. It was 117-114. And I said, you know, look, it was closer than it needed to be. And part of that was because of the strategy that the Raptors employed. And, you know, we're seeing... Das ist was Jimmy sagt, ja.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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right he's got to shoot him and especially this is the this is the other thing because jimmy butler is out there and the space that he likes to operate and create from it interferes a little bit with the space that draymond likes to operate in offensively sometimes so um i think this game is a pretty good example of how these guys can actually work together if draymond is willing to shoot um would you think about
The Athletic NBA Daily
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What we've seen from them between the game without Steph, where they get a win, and then this game, where they finish without Steph and pick up the win. What do you think about that so far, making up for Steph's absence?
The Athletic NBA Daily
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No, I didn't think it would be, actually, Marcus.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Right. The thing is, he's a great player. The ball's never going to get stuck. He's one of the highest level connectors in the NBA. You sound like Steve Kerr.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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But the thing is, the space he operates in with him and when you get Draymond and you get Kuminga out there at the same time like we saw the other night. I mean, Gary Payton II was out there. That to me felt like Steve Kerr saying, hey, you know what? You guys were going to run into this at some point. We got to figure this out. So just go do it. And I think they've done okay.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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6,1 Billionen Dollar, Leute. Guten Morgen, alle. Guten Morgen, Markus. Ich freue mich, dass du zu spät da bist, nachdem die Warriors die Raptors gewonnen haben.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Part of that is that you've got Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green as two of the highest IQ guys when it comes to just knowing spots to be on the court on both ends. Those guys down the stretch defensively both made a play to win the game. Draymond Green breaks up that one transition pass that was for an alley-oop. Jimmy Butler gets a big block at the rim.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Das war beeindruckend für mich, Markus. Das ist das, was ich in meinem Notbuch stelle. Und ich sage, okay, jetzt haben die Warriors zwei Leute, die das defensiv machen können und nicht nur Draymond all die Zeit. Und das ist, wo ich denke, dass ihre Strecke unbegrenzt ist. Es ist ein Defensiv-Event. Die Offense, weil der Spacing-Konzern, ich denke, Steph muss natürlich draußen sein.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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But I don't know that they have a solution. And Quentin Post going six of nine from three is a great sign. That's awesome. But Marcus, do you think Quentin Post come playoff time is a guy that's going to be getting minutes because he can make shots? I mean, that feels like...
The Athletic NBA Daily
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I don't know if it's because he's not quite in full basketball shape yet because he did miss a lot of time, but he may just not have it. I saw him in the game last night. You know, he had the ball on the empty side and he tried to get a drive and he kept getting cut off. And look, that's going to happen quite a bit, especially when you're playing the Raptors.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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They've got some quick guys that can stay in front of you. I'm of the opinion that Jimmy Butler can play a little bit like Steph when Steph's not on the court. But inside the three-point line, you know, Santos had a great pass to Steph. They were top-locking Steph. Steph works to get on the inside, right? Like their front guard.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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And he gets that little layup by essentially faking the up-cut and going back. I think Jimmy Butler does so many of those things so well that there's stuff there that he can do off the ball, even when Steph's not on the court. Ja, keine Frage.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Lamello Ball ging auf gegen die Knicks und die Hornets haben sie irgendwie gewonnen. Und es war nicht mal so nah. 115 zu 98. Lamello Ball geht fünf von zehn von drei. Lamello Ball war an diesen Leuten tanzen. Und schau, sie haben nicht Jalen Brunson, aber die Playoffs kommen. Die Knicks sollen ein seriöser Gegner sein.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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You can't be losing to San Antonio with no De'Aaron Fox, no Wemby, and then going to Charlotte and letting LaMelo Ball do stuff like this. I mean, I think that I'm at the point where the Knicks are having a really nice season, but man, I don't trust them.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Es ist spät. Hör mal, es ist spät für mich, Mann. Ich mag zu schlafen. Die größte Neuigkeit des Spiels ist nicht, dass die Warriors gewonnen haben. Sie sollen gewinnen. Sie sollen die Raptors gewinnen. Als Fakt, können wir vielleicht dazu kommen, warum dieses Spiel so nahe war.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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Without Brunson it is, right? So their issue right now is the offense. Deuce McBride does not stir in the drink enough. And then, frankly, Karl-Anthony Towns puts up 24 points, but They don't have the defense around the basket, right? So then the three-pointer opens up and you wind up with this situation where Charlotte goes 15 of 32 from three. And you can chalk this up to, hey, you know what?
The Athletic NBA Daily
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They had a great shooting night. And they did. They did. But it's the Hornets. Like, you still should be able to withstand that if you're the Knicks and find a way to win.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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You just think that they're just focused. That's it. They just get to the playoffs.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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But the biggest news, with about three minutes and 30 seconds left in the third quarter, Steph Curry fell just directly on his backside. And it was one of the louder falls that I've heard on an NBA broadcast. You were in the arena. You were talking to these guys postgame. What's the latest right after the game on Steph and his butt? Let's talk about Steph's butt.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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I think they need Jalen Brunson. He needs to be healthy. Otherwise, they would have a scary first round series if he's not 100%. Especially if they wind up catching the Pistons. Because they're really good. It might be scary for them if they catch the Pistons with Brunson. Before we go to break, quickly, the Bucks blew out the Lakers, or at least it was sort of the Lakers.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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The Lakers were without five of their top six scorers in the game. Brian James scored 17 points. If you want to know what kind of night it was for the Lakers, Lucas sat, Austin Reeves sat, obviously LeBron and Rui both out still. Dorian Finney-Smith was out, Jared Vanderbilt was out. Damian Lillard missed the game.
The Athletic NBA Daily
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On a night where we watched 37-year-old Steph Curry laying his body on the line, you know, laying his tail on the line, Marcus. I see what you did there. How come, like, is this the problem that people, like, when they're talking load management, it's not, it's just, the Lakers were just okay to throw this game away.