James O'Keefe
Appearances
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
I love it when a kid whose headphones are too big for his head is giving the world life advice. I think that, that was that kid, if you couldn't, if you can't see it. It depends on the primary structure for the 2028 presidential election. If they skip Iowa and New Hampshire again, it is very clear they're going to move to the center because black voters, I'm going to
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
who will make up a majority of the voters in South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, these early states. I don't know about Florida anymore, but it was Florida forever. In the Democratic primary, they are centrist. They are centrist to conservative Democratic voters.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
The reason that Joe Biden was able to resurrect his entire career in the 2020 Democratic primary is because the South Carolina black voters voted.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
resurrected him um had uh and that's why iowa was was where brock obama was able to get a start and he probably would have won anyway in south carolina because he's a black candidate but a lot of moderate candidates find their success in the deep south if the deep south is the beginning of the 2028 presidential calendar it is because the party is looking for a moderate person if they start in nevada iowa new hampshire anything like that it will be leaning progressive
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Yeah. And you're missing the people who are professionally hate men and white people. That's all. And Christians. Those are also the very, very they've kind of fallen between those things. But that's also the very fifth, very important portion of it. And look, it's not a majority. And if you look at that David Shore deep dive, which I know you've talked about in the past, it's.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
The Democratic Party's worst demographic in the last election was men under the age of 20. Like it is such a reversal because of how toxic some of their politics have been. And the fact that Jasmine Crockett is a tie with Barack Obama in the CNN poll of who is the leader of the Democratic Party. They have the dime store Cardi B, who was a middle-aged woman who went to elite private schools.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
And then the former president who hate him or love him was the former president and a very eloquent speaker with Jasmine Crockett, who was comparing a paralyzed person and calling him Hot Wheels today at the Human Rights Convention. That is really a startling place for how much the party has kind of lost its mind and how much bigger the tent for the Republican Party has become.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Well, one, the focus by Democrats on things that don't matter, like abortion and like the rise of fascism, which most people in their regular lives don't honestly think is the one is happening and two is, you know, happening tomorrow. And also the fact that Democrats really had a breakdown of civil society. Look, Democrats run almost every one of our major cities in America.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
the places in the 90s and 2000s that everyone wanted to be. Everyone wanted to be like, you know, in New York or Los Angeles, thriving metropolitan cities. And they're all losing people. You know, I was actually thinking this before. If you look at the new census numbers that had the number of immigrants moving to these cities and kind of growing them,
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
If it were not for mass immigration, blue cities would actually feel the repercussion of failed policies, and it's only because they keep bringing in these third world immigrants that sit there and kind of bring the population back. But Americans have rejected them with their feet. They're leaving them in mass, and they have for the last five years. They have failed on labor.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
on quality of life issues across the board. And then they defend lawlessness from crime and riots to the border. And they expect you to feel more sorry for an illegal alien who's in a gang and has gang tattoos and was deported quickly than they do for that poor girl, the nursing student who was killed in Georgia.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
That is a complete and total breakdown of where their thought process and what priorities are when it comes to how Americans live every day.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
I would just sit there and say that the work that you've done, the work that a lot of people do, the part, the thing that like the Liz Cheney's did not understand is what is a moderate? A moderate is not always Susan Collins. A moderate is very far right in immigration and maybe centrist on abortion and left wing on healthcare. That's what a moderate is.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
And we hit where the moderates actually cared about, like on immigration, the border and the war against white people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
She is 43 years old and went to a K through eight school that now costs thirty five thousand dollars a year. The idea that she's ghetto or whatever she's presenting herself as is the biggest joke. I mean, she's doing she's doing some kind of bit, I guess, to sit there and prove herself somehow. And it's just I don't know. Listen, she's in a super safe Democratic seat over.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
And I think Dallas or Houston is one of the two. And she's trying to say this is how I will break through as a potential lead in the Democratic Party, either to have a post career as a television host or a speaking engagement person. Or she's going to sit there and run with AOC in the most in the ticket that will really show Americans are tired of this bit.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Somebody who speaks English well, unlike Congressman Crockett, that would be a starter to a man. I think Democrats are going to take a break from nominating women for quite some time. It's just the truth. And I think that they're going to probably pick a man who is not a white man, who checks a lot of boxes, who speaks well and has centrist career things.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
I mean, look, if you watch the Harris DNC convention and the Hillary DNC convention, it looked a lot like a George W. Bush convention in the way they sounded about certain things, patriotism, America. They've definitely taken this road. And I just don't think there is enough people in the Democratic Party who who live in Bushwick, Brooklyn, who've got pink hair, just that they were nominated.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
AOC could not win a statewide primary in New York against Chuck Schumer. That is why I believe partially she's looking at a national primary. And there is nothing, running for off president is a career booster. That is how you end up becoming Pete Buttigieg, which you would have never done if you had to run just being a mayor. So I think that there's going to be a lot of people in the clown car.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
But at the end of the day, I think black voters who make up the majority of primary voters for the Democratic Party in a lot of states, especially the big southeast states, they will be voting for a moderate man, probably a man of color. And I think that Westmore has what it takes right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
I mean, it looks I don't if she was not, I don't know what else she would be doing. Like she's not doing differently than I would be advising if I was a Democratic consultant. There's nothing that she's doing that would make me think she's not running for president. I don't think she's running for a statewide office in New York.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
I just don't think she's going to challenge Chuck Schumer's, you know, $50 million coffers. And she does, she, she isolates too many people in New York. There's too many voters who absolutely be appalled by her. So I think she's going to look at a, at a national thing and being the national voice of the party. And she has a better chance of doing that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Although I don't think she can win than she does at being a state, a U S Senator, which by the way, she's not a super effective legislator to begin with. Why would she be a Senator for?
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Or be a populist progressive in the sense that you – like they used to be. Like be like – what's it called? What's this? The labor activists of the 1970s. Be super pro-union. Be super pro-worker and be against illegal immigration, which drives down their wages. trying to mix, but they don't want working class voters. That's their ultimate problem. There is a path for Democrats to move forward on.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Talk about billionaires in the Trump administration or the wealthy or tax cuts. There is a road for them to walk on and be a working class party. They have no interest in working class people because they're revolted by them. They are the party of college educated people who have those signs.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Well, it's great. You know, we have right now we have whistleblowers inside the government that are very excited to come forward. They feel like there's a new dawn of a new era. And with this new administration, I think maybe they'll be protected. We'll see. And then we also have people in the deep state we're exposing right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
I think the executive branch of government can be helpful to ensure they're not retaliated against.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
I think it's going to result in 10x, 100x more people coming forward and commitments from the heads of these agencies, some of whom I've had conversations with, and they're going to fire anybody who retaliates against that person. Also, I think the capacity for reform is going to encourage more people to come forward. In fact, we should do the opposite.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Can you differentiate? That's a very important distinction. I think people who are witness to crimes, corruption, like, for example, the IRS, if you've seen people targeted because of their politics, that's illegal. If you have evidence of that, incontrovertible video recordings or images, that's what we're looking for.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
He said Biden is dead. This guy's the he's a former spy. National Security Council at the White House. Worst espionage ever. A lot of deep state actors in the government. Charlie, if you're one of the good guys, blow the whistle for the bad guys. You might be on a date with one of my swipers.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
He's an advisor to the National Security Council.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
He was saying that Biden is dead, quote, dead and can't complete a sentence. And then he says he's concerned that Trump is going to come after them. I say maybe they should come after them because you work for the National Security Council and you're talking in a public restaurant to a stranger.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
That's right. Have you seen that pattern before, James? I think they're, you know, they're not willing to do what I do. But, I mean, none of this shocks people. It's not surprising, but it's confirming, Charlie. And like I said, 2025, the year of the whistleblower. If you're a good guy, come forward. If you're a bad guy, be careful. I'm going to get to work on this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Yeah, I have a 5-1-C-3 Citizen Journalism Foundation. We're going to pay their legal bills.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Well, it's citizenjournalismfoundation.com. It's a 5-1-C-3. We're going to pay the legal bills, give them money in case there's retribution. And I think, Charlie, exactly that. The executive branch of government, if there's any way that they can be protected, because congressional whistleblower, they don't really enforce that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
So I think there's an opportunity right now to have their backs and have them come forward.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
And I'm on your stage tomorrow. I'm going on stage. I'm going to bring a few of these people out. Federal whistleblowers are going to meet him here.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I second everything Charlie said. I would say the thing that I take from the Ed Snowden matter is the power of one man because people think, well, I'm just one person. He's one individual. He changed world history. He changed the course of history. Correct. I don't know what's in his heart. You know, people say, is he a traitor? Is he a hero?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
This is really the tale as old as time with whistleblowers. You can be both. And it's extra legal what you do. You're violating your covenant. You're violating your nondisclosure agreement. You're violating your agreement with your employer for the public's right to know. That's right. As someone who's been through this, I'm a little biased. And here's why.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Because the FBI came to my home, told Charlie this story, pounded on my door. I'm an American reporter. So if another country did this, our State Department would issue a press release and say this is wrong. Correct. The FBI came to my house with a battering ram like they're Vikings or something and smashed my door in, took guns, pointed it at my head, and took my reporter notebooks. Wow.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
In the United States of America. So forgive me for not trusting the government. And I'll tell you what they did. I totally agree. They – I had this phone. Of course, I don't have my phone – my lawyer's number memorized. The only phone numbers I've memorized are, like, my parents. So – I said, I need to talk to my lawyer. And the Fed was like, well, you want to use your iPhone?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And then I unlock my iPhone. I have to enter in the password. And the moment that I enter my password into the phone, the FBI agent snatches my phone and right in front of me changes the setting so it doesn't go to sleep and then puts it in an evidence bag.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
So now the FBI, this is three and a half years ago, has access to all of my signal messages, which includes all of my confidential government sources. And it was like, and there were 10 agents, and I looked into their faces, and it struck me that half of them were like, this is wrong.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Those FBI agents were saying to themselves, they could be just deceiving me, but their faces seemed to indicate they thought what they were doing was unconscionable. But they did it anyway. And my message to you, the moral of the story is you might be in a position in your life one day where you're one of them. And what are you going to do? Well, I've got to feed my family.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Well, you're going to do evil things to feed your family. And how will your children look up to you? You have to do the right thing. And I still haven't been – the FBI still has my devices. They still have them. Raiding a journalist. Wow. And the American Civil Liberties Union came out against this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And my message to the FBI agents who did this is may your children forgive you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Man, that's quite a question. I would say that that was definitely the hardest thing I've ever been through in my life because I was fired from my own creation. And what I said on stage 30 minutes ago was the fight is not what you think it is. It's not external. It's often a fight within ourselves. So the fight is good versus evil.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I mean, I've done investigative work in the offices of these rhinos, or what would you call them, just weak people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I mean, I just catch them on tape saying the opposite of what they say publicly. Do that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And to be fearless, to take on powerful institutions, you have to make sure the people around you are unbreakable. And, you know, I made some poor decisions about who I surrounded myself with, I think. But it was very painful, Charlie, but it taught me the importance of surrounding myself with the right people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
How about some reform of the IRS? Would you like that? And we always hear theories about the IRS are targeting me because of my politics. What if I actually was able to show you some evidence of it? And what if the people in charge were like, you know what, we're going to have that person's back. Just hint, hint, hint. Stay tuned.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
So how do we remove their sort of... Well, I mean, just two hours ago, there was a guy from Disney that came on Charlie's stage. Brave guy. Disney. That's like, by the way, do you see how ABC is owned by Disney and Stephanopoulos? They give a $15 million judgment in libel. How do you unveil the wrongdoing inside corporations? One person. That's right. Very good answer. You did it. One person.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
One person. It just takes one person. I know it's a cliche. One person with courage makes a majority. Done. You need someone who's going to be willing to make a sacrifice. You can't do this unless you have skin in the game. People want, and this is honestly like 99% of people. It's just human nature. Well, I want to, it's like I get, Charlie probably gets 10 times the DMs.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Every day, I get 1,000 people, I want to do something. And you know what I say back to them? What are you willing to give up? And then 99% of people don't respond. So you're either going to give up some money or you're going to give up some of your reputation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And by the way, I'm not a psychotherapist. It doesn't count. I'm not your therapist. I'm not here to listen to you complain. I'm not qualified as a psychotherapist. People treat me like I don't have time. I have to move on to the next person. I'm serious. So it takes one person with courage inside the company who's witnessed something wrong.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
They have incontrovertible evidence of that, and they speak the truth. And if it's strong enough, and trust me, there's a lot of bad stuff happening out there. You just got to stand up and speak the truth and do it now. It's not for everybody, but it takes one person. Next question.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I would say that a friend of mine says life is like an elevator ride. Most people get off too early. They get off the elevator on the wrong floor. Just stay on the elevator and keep doing it. But I was fired from Project Veritas, and we're currently in litigation. It's horrible.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I've brought federal government employees to the senators and the congressmen. This is an important point. I'm going to speak without naming names. Do you know what they tell me, sir? You know what they tell me, the senators in Congress, when I bring the federal employee, I do the right thing by the law, by these congressional people. They say there's nothing we can do, James. Yeah.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
They say, there's nothing we can do. We can write letters. You can publish the letters on your Twitter. So they're telling me, this is the legislative branch of government. Because they're terrified of the intelligence. They're telling me something more, that the power of Elon Musk's platform is more powerful than they are.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
They're telling me the media is more, and we're a country founded on the whole premise of the public's right to know. The founders set up the United States government The First Amendment is all about the public's right to know. And if the public doesn't know what's happening, they can't be informed. And therefore, we'd have no consent of the governed.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
So when the United States government is spying on everybody and spying on journalists... It's like the equivalent of constitutional rape. It's a situational ethic where the individual that has sworn an oath has an ethical and moral obligation. It's a lose-lose situation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
So he does the lesser of the two evils, and he speaks out, and he speaks publicly because he can't go to his elected representatives because those people, and I probably should secretly record some of these meetings, those senators and members of Congress tell me that there's literally nothing they can do for the whistleblower.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
But I think when you're going to take on BlackRock, Pfizer, the FBI, the New York Times, and you're winning, you better make sure the people around you are very strong. And they're not going to betray you. And nothing that you can offer those people, nothing that, so I can't be bought, right? If someone tries to bribe me, I'll just film it. But it's not about me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I actually don't, and I don't like to opine on something I can't confirm yet. So, Charlie, I'm going to punt this one to you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
It's a great question. I would say, like, low-budget movies. I mean, first of all, this is the most important, in my opinion, question that's been asked, the culture. There's a correction. There's a market correction happening in the culture right now. And people are not buying what they're being sold by Netflix.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I think Jeff Bezos not endorsing Kamala was a major tell there in the Washington Post. But I've made this film, Line in the Sand. I understand how much it takes to make a movie. Conservatives have always, in my opinion, this is just my opinion, not been very good storytellers. I don't know what it is. They don't seem to have rhythm or something. They're not the most artistic people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
But I think that's changing. I think that's changing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I think that's changing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I have to make sure that the men around me are also the same way. And that's hard. And you think you have friends? Well, when you're raided by the FBI and they're pointing guns at you, you will figure out who your friends are. And I think, Charlie, we're entering a new era, and I said this on your show yesterday, where I think people inside the government can come forward right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
So I think people need to spend as much time in the arts and making videos and making films. I don't think you need to have the quote-unquote big budget thing. I think that creates more restrictions, actually. I think you can do incredible things with an iPhone and Adobe Premiere. And some of the best people out there do it that way.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
But I would encourage people, and I'm hiring in a major way, director of photography, I'm hiring editors and producers. We need more storytellers. And there's a lot of people here I encourage to go that route more than the elected office route.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
There's a limited window of time, I think, with that political capital. But I call on President Trump and his heads of his agencies to have these people's backs.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I'll stay more clandestine.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Yeah, Line in the Sand, it's with Tucker.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
If you haven't seen Line in the Sand, the first thing is watch it. Just watch it. Because I think it's an action documentary. So my mantra is most people tell they don't show. I show I don't tell. So I never ask you to believe me by virtue of the decree that I'm credible because I'm believable. I ask you to look at what you're looking at and experience it. And that's what we need more of.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Every one of you is a journalist. You are more qualified than George Stephanopoulos. You're more talented than George Stephanopoulos. And, you know, it's a cliche, but these things are insane, and everyone has an audio and video device. There's an opportunity over there. I'd give it eight months.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
You have eight months where if you have an idea, a vision, right now you have the opportunity to be brave. And I'm a journalist. I'm a videographer. I want you guys, if anyone in the audience wants to do this, now's your time. I'm hiring, and if you are witness to corruption in the United States government, if you know someone who is, have them come forward.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Your action items, tell the truth, be brave, be the difference you wish to see in the world.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
We did. Yes, and I hope that you help make that happen. It's on my list. I feel as though I'm one of the more qualified people to tell these people's stories. They trust me by virtue. Here's the other thing. All that hell I went through, and Laura Logan said this to me, like when I was 25, I was arrested by the FBI falsely because he was placed on house arrest for three years.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I was raided by the FBI, sued 40 times. I thought, and many of you in our lives, we all know what pain is. We all understand suffering. We think, oh, woe is me. But what I did not know, was that all that stuff I went through, even the termination from Veritas because I refused to bear false witness. They asked me to put out a statement about something that wasn't true.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
That has led people to trust me more. And they come to me because they trust me by virtue of the pain that I have been through. So if you're going through something like that, I think that that can help inspire you. But there's a lot of people right now inside the federal government who are witness to to corruption, Charlie, during the Biden administration.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
But they just need to know that someone's going to have their backs and that they will be protected.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Well, what happened was that we broke a story on Pfizer late January 2023 right after Elon bought Twitter. So I just got back on Twitter. By the grace of God, I just got back on Twitter. And then we break the story. Biggest story ever. It was viewed like more times than like the World Cup videos. It was like hundreds of millions of people. What was in this video?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And in this video, the Pfizer mRNA director of scientific research, not a low-level guy, high-level executive, Yale-educated doctor, he was on type saying, this product is no good for the consumers. We tested on monkeys. We came up with the virus in China, the Wuhan lab. He's saying all these things. And he says to our undercover reporter, I think he's on a gay date or something.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
He says, don't tell this to anybody. To which our undercover reporter said, could you just say that again just the way you said it? We got this on tape. I confronted the guy, and then he takes my iPad and he smashes it on the ground, falsely imprisons me inside of a restaurant. It was so crazy.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
So we released that video, and then, Charlie, what happened was – and I'll give you some specific details. I think they're going to make a movie out of this one day, what happened to me, and there's depositions and lawsuit ongoing – Three days later, I get a call from my chief financial officer, Project Veritas, an emergency meeting to remove me as chief executive officer from the organization.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
They had a six-hour emergency board meeting where they tried to get me to lose my temper. I did not. And then they, quote, indefinitely suspended me without pay. So that's what happened, and you can draw your own conclusions from that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Bobby Kennedy, I went hiking with him a week after that, and I won't share exactly what he said to me, but he invited me to go hiking in the Santa Monica Mountains, which he does every morning with his dogs, and he said something to the effect of, you don't realize who you're dealing with. You go after Pfizer like you just did. Pfizer had to put out a statement.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
He said, you're going after the Defense Department. You're going after powerful people. And they have, as Chuck Schumer said, six ways to Sunday to get back at you. And these people play really dirty. And I think it taught me about human nature. And by the way, this man is a good man.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I didn't know you incredibly well, but when this happened to me, which is the darkest moment of my life, Charlie would call me every day. He didn't have to do that. And text me, how are you doing, and send me prayers. I got to know you better than... And I'm very grateful for your friendship and support during that time.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Well, I think, as I said on the main stage, that it is a fight that's internal. It's a choice that we all have to make. Telling the truth in a time of universal deceit is a revolutionary act. It's not easy. It sounds easy to just tell the truth. You face retaliation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
You face – I think right now, over the next nine months, you have an opportunity to do this where hopefully you won't be as targeted as you otherwise would have been a year ago. So I think the pendulum is swinging. I think we all feel it in the culture, right, in the politics. Everything's swinging. But it might swing back. So we have to all step up right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And how you do that is if someone's connected to someone who works for a corporation, institution, federal government, and you have access, you're witness to something wrong, speak up. And in the beginning, it just takes one man, two people, three people. And when their cause succeeds, then other people join in. And my foundation, it's called Citizen Journalism Foundation. We also have OMG.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
My foundation is – we just wrote a $100,000 check to this Disney whistleblower today who's fired from his job at Disney. Tell us the story. What happened with the Disney? Vice President of Disney on hidden camera saying – We don't hire people on the basis of their race. We don't hire white people. That's, like, illegal.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Also, transitioning children, Disney's paying for their employees' children to be transitioned. And he blows the whistle on this, and Disney fires them. And I was in L.A. at the time, this summer, and I was making a film called Line in the Sand, and everyone's like, don't go after Disney. Don't go after Disney. Yeah, Line in the Sand. If you haven't seen it, Line in the Sand.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And everyone in LA is like, don't go after Disney. They're so powerful. And that's the thing that I'm fighting. Tell the truth. Always speak the truth. And no matter what, do the right thing. No matter what. So this is what's my advice. Just tell the truth. And if you're witness to something wrong, and it's seriously wrong, and you have evidence of it, then speak out and step forward.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Well, that's a very existential question. I think that the line that separates good and evil runs through each and every human heart. And I have found that our battle, and I think you've said this to me in other words, our battle is not external, it's within ourselves. So the choice to do the right thing is a choice that we must make.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And it is being willing to accept the consequences that come along with doing the right thing. That's a choice that you have to make. Not the enemy or the New York Times or some other person coming after you. You have to make that choice. Now, in my darkest moments, and trust me, I'm afraid, in my darkest moments, I look up to people
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
good people like Kelsey Goodman from FEMA or Clarissa from the GSA, who are just genuinely decent human beings. And I look up to them. And the line in the sand when I rode that train, I was scared to death. But I looked up to a guy named Anthony Rubin, a YouTuber, who did it before me. So I try to look to people who set the example, and I follow them. And I would encourage – that's what we do.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
That's what we do. We look at the best in people, and then we take the action.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I mean, I've been doing this for – I've been doing this since I was in college, so that's 21 years, Charlie. I've been embattled most of my life. In other words, I've always been the underdog. And I actually think that with Elon purchasing Twitter, which you pointed out was the greatest thing that ever happened in Western civilization, and turning point, Charlie, what did Shapiro say?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
That you built your own better version of the RNC? That stop complaining about the media. They're done. It's dead. You are the media. We are the media. So I wear this on my chest. Do you see any people on television doing that investigative reporter thingy? Are they out in the field for weeks or months? Are they doing investigative reporting into the deep state? Have you ever seen that before?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Well, they haven't done it for a lot of reasons. A lot of it's economics. There's not a lot of money in journalism. That's why it's usually a nonprofit activity. A lot of it's fear. And a lot of it's the relationships that journalists have with those in the government. They have a symbiotic relationship, give and take. I'll keep you secret. You give me your secrets.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
But the secrets they're given aren't truth. It's falsehoods. It's propaganda. So it's incumbent upon we, the people, the only people who can do the job are citizen journalists. We the people. And you have to have a philanthropic heart to do it because it's not easy and it's not profitable. So I think, Charlie, the media is dead. Hollywood's done.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Well, thank you, Charlie, for having me. And I just had three whistleblowers on stage, two from the Border Patrol, one from FEMA, and then another gentleman from Disney. Four brave people, three of them federal government employees, came on stage, told their stories, and it was really powerful. It was really, really powerful. Thank you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And stop complaining about it and just do their jobs for them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I never, as you know, I never ever advocate for policy. However, Snowden needs to be pardoned.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 216: No Taxes Under $150k? Elon Musk Army?
I just wanted to know what we could do to try to... Because we're based as a Christian nation. I'm just trying to figure out what we can do to get back to being more Christly. Like, I see that how our nation is going, it's just not like it should be. We constantly are having... So much arguments with each other. Like, everybody wants to just be at odds. I don't know what we can do to fix it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
We Have a Border Again
Yeah, again, it's not Gates opening. That's a misunderstanding of the bill itself. It's how many can we process and actually deport. When you raise the standard for people coming across, when you increase the detention beds, when you increase deportation flights, you're not letting people in. And people are thinking about how the Biden administration is running it now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
We Have a Border Again
Right now, the Biden administration is allowing, for instance, 1,500 people a day just to come to the ports of entry, get a work permit and get released into the country. People coming between ports of entry get what's called a notice to appear and get released into the country. All of that stops.
The Charlie Kirk Show
We Have a Border Again
We're focused on how many people can we process quickly and then deport out of the country, not release into the country. It would be absolutely absurd for anyone to be able to propose something to say we're just going to slow the number of releases. We're focused on how do we actually enforce our border and get us back to zero, people actually crossing the border illegally.
The Charlie Kirk Show
We Have a Border Again
Every administration has struggled to be able to get the authorities in place to be able to actually enforce our border. Let's put them in place.