Jack and Nick

Probably the most confidential information we've ever read in our lives. And here's why we're saying that. The Secretary of Defense texted extremely detailed plans about an attack on Yemen's Houthi rebels. At 1,400 hours, the first bombs drop. At 1,500 hours, F-18 fighter jets launch a second strike. Basically, this was a play-by-play of the military strike. Those are the screenshots.

Probably the most confidential information we've ever read in our lives. And here's why we're saying that. The Secretary of Defense texted extremely detailed plans about an attack on Yemen's Houthi rebels. At 1,400 hours, the first bombs drop. At 1,500 hours, F-18 fighter jets launch a second strike. Basically, this was a play-by-play of the military strike. Those are the screenshots.

Probably the most confidential information we've ever read in our lives. And here's why we're saying that. The Secretary of Defense texted extremely detailed plans about an attack on Yemen's Houthi rebels. At 1,400 hours, the first bombs drop. At 1,500 hours, F-18 fighter jets launch a second strike. Basically, this was a play-by-play of the military strike. Those are the screenshots.

Those are the facts of the scandal. but we're not getting into the political implications of it. If you want those, those are a story for a different podcast. What we were curious about is the platform that was used. It wasn't iMessage and it wasn't Telegram and it wasn't WhatsApp. It was actually a platform called Signal.

Those are the facts of the scandal. but we're not getting into the political implications of it. If you want those, those are a story for a different podcast. What we were curious about is the platform that was used. It wasn't iMessage and it wasn't Telegram and it wasn't WhatsApp. It was actually a platform called Signal.

Those are the facts of the scandal. but we're not getting into the political implications of it. If you want those, those are a story for a different podcast. What we were curious about is the platform that was used. It wasn't iMessage and it wasn't Telegram and it wasn't WhatsApp. It was actually a platform called Signal.

Signal is an encrypted messaging platform run by a guy with a rat tail and his name is Marley Moxie Spike. He actually changed his name to that at a younger age, but he's a hacker and he runs Signal in an interesting way. As a nonprofit. Yeah. There's no ads. There's nothing you have to pay. There's no subscription. There's no business model.

Signal is an encrypted messaging platform run by a guy with a rat tail and his name is Marley Moxie Spike. He actually changed his name to that at a younger age, but he's a hacker and he runs Signal in an interesting way. As a nonprofit. Yeah. There's no ads. There's nothing you have to pay. There's no subscription. There's no business model.

Signal is an encrypted messaging platform run by a guy with a rat tail and his name is Marley Moxie Spike. He actually changed his name to that at a younger age, but he's a hacker and he runs Signal in an interesting way. As a nonprofit. Yeah. There's no ads. There's nothing you have to pay. There's no subscription. There's no business model.

Signal makes money based on donations, kind of like Wikipedia. It's used by a lot of journalists because it's such a secure messaging platform. And Marley Moxie Spike saw this opportunity and turned the group chat drama into a marketing moment. He said Signal is the gold standard if it's used by the U.S. military. And you know what?

Signal makes money based on donations, kind of like Wikipedia. It's used by a lot of journalists because it's such a secure messaging platform. And Marley Moxie Spike saw this opportunity and turned the group chat drama into a marketing moment. He said Signal is the gold standard if it's used by the U.S. military. And you know what?

Signal makes money based on donations, kind of like Wikipedia. It's used by a lot of journalists because it's such a secure messaging platform. And Marley Moxie Spike saw this opportunity and turned the group chat drama into a marketing moment. He said Signal is the gold standard if it's used by the U.S. military. And you know what?

Signal surged to one of the top 10 apps in America after all of this Signalgate drama. So Jack, what's the takeaway for our buddies over at Signal? A system is only as secure as the person using it. Yetis, 20 years ago, this chat would have happened on a secure conference call. It would have happened in the Situation Room. But today, we text.

Signal surged to one of the top 10 apps in America after all of this Signalgate drama. So Jack, what's the takeaway for our buddies over at Signal? A system is only as secure as the person using it. Yetis, 20 years ago, this chat would have happened on a secure conference call. It would have happened in the Situation Room. But today, we text.

Signal surged to one of the top 10 apps in America after all of this Signalgate drama. So Jack, what's the takeaway for our buddies over at Signal? A system is only as secure as the person using it. Yetis, 20 years ago, this chat would have happened on a secure conference call. It would have happened in the Situation Room. But today, we text.

And with end-to-end encryption, the platforms we text on generally are pretty darn secure. WhatsApp, iMessage, Telegram, Signal, they're all end-to-end encrypted so only the sender and the receiver can view the message. It's so secure that the police can't access the messages, even with a warrant. The tech companies behind them can't see what's being messaged.

And with end-to-end encryption, the platforms we text on generally are pretty darn secure. WhatsApp, iMessage, Telegram, Signal, they're all end-to-end encrypted so only the sender and the receiver can view the message. It's so secure that the police can't access the messages, even with a warrant. The tech companies behind them can't see what's being messaged.

And with end-to-end encryption, the platforms we text on generally are pretty darn secure. WhatsApp, iMessage, Telegram, Signal, they're all end-to-end encrypted so only the sender and the receiver can view the message. It's so secure that the police can't access the messages, even with a warrant. The tech companies behind them can't see what's being messaged.

But the reason this story leaked wasn't because of an encryption issue, a hacking, or a signal error. The reason it leaked was a human error. The tech industry calls this user error. Yeah. The finance industry calls it a fat-fingered mistake. Yeah, we do. You and I call it, oh my God, I texted the wrong person. Oh, delete, delete, delete. The Situation Room is more mistake-proof. Yeah, it is.

But the reason this story leaked wasn't because of an encryption issue, a hacking, or a signal error. The reason it leaked was a human error. The tech industry calls this user error. Yeah. The finance industry calls it a fat-fingered mistake. Yeah, we do. You and I call it, oh my God, I texted the wrong person. Oh, delete, delete, delete. The Situation Room is more mistake-proof. Yeah, it is.